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Someone Is Lying: Russia Defense Ministry Says There Was No Military Column In East Ukraine

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And just like that the disinformation war goes full retard:

  • RUSSIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS THERE WAS NO RUSSIAN MILITARY COLUMN THAT CROSSED INTO EASTERN UKRAINE - RIA
  • RUSSIA SAYS UKRAINE STATEMENTS BASED ON `SOME FANTASIES': RIA
  • STATEMENTs BASED ON FANTASIES SHOULDN'T BE THE SUBJECT OF SERIOUS DISCUSSION: RIA

And the full google-translated RIA article:

No Russian military convoy that allegedly crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border, does not exist, said Friday the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov.

 

"In the Russian Defense Ministry denied reports of alleged" extermination "Ukrainian military" Russian military convoy, "which allegedly crossed the eve of the Russian-Ukrainian border," - said the Russian defense ministry.

 

"No Russian military convoy, which allegedly crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border by night or by day - exists. And it would be best if the Ukrainian artillery destroyed some phantom, instead of refugees or their own troops," - said the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, General -Major Igor Konashenkov.

 

"Such statements are based on some kind of fantasy, or rather assumptions journalists should not be the subject of serious discussion by senior officials of any country", - the report says. 

 

What is happening in Ukraine and New Russia

 

Mass anti-government protests began in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine in late February 2014. They were a response to local residents on the violent change of power in the country and the subsequent attempt to cancel the Verkhovna Rada of the law granting the Russian language the status of regional. Center of opposition pro-Russian citizens with the authorities in Kiev became the Donbass. About how the conflict evolved in the south-east of Ukraine, read in the chronicleof RIA Novosti.

Surely the Ukraine president, who already confirmed to David Cameron that the Russian column was mostly "eliminated" will be releasing a YouTube clip with the proof momentarily.

 

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Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:16 | 5098430 JuliaS
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Eliminated from imagination.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:19 | 5098463 Say What Again
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Wait a minute here

Are you suggesting that a politician is not telling us the truth?

I can't get my mind around that concept.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:20 | 5098470 max2205
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These guys LIE ,more than Barry

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098476 cougar_w
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The Ukraine leadership is in a bind. Things are not going their way. They are now cooking up stories to make themselves appear relevant.

Ukraine will fall apart now. Putin has already won.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098491 linniepar
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I wonder how the Ferguson "rebels" are fairing out.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:30 | 5098540 camaro68ss
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It's a play of words. No military column was bombed, just a humanitarian column. They shoot down passenger jets and bomb aid trucks. What side is the USA on again?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:33 | 5098554 BaBaBouy
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IT WAS ISIS !!! Bitches...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:36 | 5098574 Tao 4 the Show
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Fascinating watching the strategies unfold. Putin seems lately to be playing "cups and balls", the game where you hide an object under one of three cups or shells and the observer has to guess which one. Remarkable misdirection going on, such that the scripted news cycles do not even have time to complete. This is risking meltdown among the hypnotized masses who unconsciously are always waiting to be told what to think.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:41 | 5098607 negative rates
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Okay, is the CIA's head about to explode? Are the Federals even aware they are hurting themselves?? Or about to hurt many others??? Convoy?? What convoy?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:46 | 5098639 Latina Lover
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This is just too funny.   

The Ukraine is a joke that gets funnier each time you tell it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:49 | 5098651 Serfs Up
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Pics or it didn't happen.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:00 | 5098696 S.M.T.U.Q.I.
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Obozoma tells so many lies just add one more on top it.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:32 | 5098847 Terminus C
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Officially denied convoy... does that mean the convoy was real?  Or is it only when the government that lies, denies, that makes it real...?

I am confused...

(propaganda working as intended)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:20 | 5099741 0b1knob
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We are at war with Eastasia.  We have always been at war with Eurasia.   2 + 2 = 5

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:02 | 5098708 hedgeless_horseman
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These guys LIE ,more than Barry

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:08 | 5098721 ZerOhead
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That's a very half-hearted Nazi salute coming from Obama... oh wait... perhaps he is just checking out his deltoids prior to some hot porcine sausage hiding later on...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:10 | 5098737 Latina Lover
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I think Porky is too fat and white for Obama.  He misses Reggie.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:42 | 5098887 BlindMonkey
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If I were gay I would miss Reggie too.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:29 | 5099141 Kirk2NCC1701
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The body language (90% of all direct communication) says it ALL.

IMO, Barry is going through the motions, since he already gave it his best shot (at Hope & Change), and has come to terms that he's just a Puppet of TPTB.  Might as well "Just Play It":  Be it 18 Holes or "3 Holes" (Orifices).

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 18:06 | 5099281 JuliaS
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Is it just me, or does this guy look alot like Yeltzin? The west loved Yeltzin! According to some, the putsch was also a CIA creation... and the more Yeltzin drank, the more our markets rallied.

BTW, that table Poroshenko's sharing with Obama looks an awful lot like a coffin, especially with those flowers... and Obama's gesture resembles an invitation.

- This, my friend, is where you're going.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:11 | 5098738 HardAssets
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Even with 'pics', you don't know if what's splashed in the headlines happened, . . or not.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:28 | 5098825 ZerOhead
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Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...

(That used to be a joke of sorts... now it's simply good advice)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:43 | 5098898 BlindMonkey
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I watched a movie in the theaters the other week. I couldn't tell CGI from film shots. There ain't no way I assume that what I see on CNN is real anymore.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:38 | 5098869 wanderintheland
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'Zactly.

Show me pics. Show me the money.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:52 | 5098665 AlaricBalth
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Russians have invaded America. Run for the hills and join the Wolverines!!!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5498/20121025rd1984m4.png

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:21 | 5099105 Freddie
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We are all ISIS. 

(at least those stupid fuxx who voted for Obama, AIPAC-Democrats (which is all Dems) and RINO-amnesty NeoCons like McCain, Graham, Corker, Rubio, et al.)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098567 maskone909
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rumor has it those satanic ukrainian puppet politicians are complicit in selling organs of the dead rebels on the black market.  if this is true, we have enetered a whole new paradigm of evil.  makes me sick.  these "folks" need to go like yesterday. 

edit

and to think our gov supports these freaks is beyond reprehensible

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:46 | 5098638 tony wilson
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whereever the un or nato go organ trading happens.

death,rape,prostitution,drug dealing and organ trading.

erdugan of turkey has made millions out of the materials and the organ parts and live kids.

this is one big satanic machine hidden behind freedom and transgender and gay and lesbian rights.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:01 | 5098694 ZerOhead
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Why would it surprise you?

The Israeli IDF was engaged in removing organs from possibly live Palestinians and then selling them to Rabbis to make a buck ostensibly in the service of their god and country. This is old news for the profit seeking sociopathic human species unfortunately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Aftonbladet_Israel_controversy

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:21 | 5098796 ThirdWorldDude
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Just what KLA did to hundreds of (still missing) people in Bondsteelistan (Kosovo)... 

BTW, a few weeks ago a premiere report was published which confirmed Serbia's allegations of organ-trafficking by KLA during and after the Empire's assault (1999 and forward): http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/kosovo-liberation-army-organ-tra...

If anyone sees Bernard Kouchner, please rip his heart out on the spot for me. Thank you.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:50 | 5098941 BlindMonkey
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The west suffers major cognitive dissonance. They just can't believe their institutions are that evil. The few times that they have been caught are dismissed as a few bad actors rather than total corruption. The red pill is a bitch.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 17:04 | 5099724 ZerOhead
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Yup... The red pill is a bitch...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:10 | 5099418 Hobo Sapien
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098564 mvsjcl
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Heck, I thought DARPA were the only ones with those holographic projection gizmos. You know, the ones that made it appear as it two planes slammed into the WTC buildings.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098497 Spastica Rex
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Wouldn't that mean that Kiev won't get its loan money?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:26 | 5098516 813kml
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They'll get their money, after all it is a liar's loan.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:33 | 5098855 Ms. Erable
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Isn't there an airplane 'mystery' Porkyshankyou should be solving?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:27 | 5098510 Save_America1st
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well, they don't actually have real "video" per se...or actual "photographic" evidence or anything like that.

But word is, they've reached out to WilliamBanzai7 to produce a recreation of the actual events as they unfolded based on word of mouth eye witnesses from the Kiev administration as proof of what happened.   

Hey, WB7....show us the goods!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:35 | 5098560 cougar_w
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Do you remember Baghdad Bob? He had the US army destroyed, routed, annihilated, surrendered, driven into the sea, devoured by the desert, and bleeding to death in a ditch -- must have been at least a dozen times over a two week period -- without any video or footage or anything.

His job was to keep the people thinking there was progress in the war. The very instant anyone thought otherwise they would defect and Saddam Hussein would be toast. Just buying time, because in that situation that is all you can do.

Didn't matter much in the end. Saddam couldn't get out of the country.

Same will now happen in Ukraine. Just buying time before the circus tents fold.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:41 | 5098575 nope-1004
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Baghdad Bob 1991 = the crazy enemy.  Baghdad Bob 2014 = .gov

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:43 | 5098620 cougar_w
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Except we don't even get Bob! Can't they hire him for a reunion tour? We need that old magic ...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:54 | 5098965 BlindMonkey
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I loved that guy. I really, really want him hired as the whitehouse press secretary.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:38 | 5098591 Gold Eyed Cat
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Russia replies, "But sir, that's not my dog."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:44 | 5098628 cougar_w
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And even if it is his dog, it's worth the lulz claiming it's not.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:09 | 5098735 Stumpy4516
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cougar, This does appear to be a false story.  But it was not cooked up by Kiev alone. 

The Guardian was involved and initiated the story.  The typical suspects already knew their roles.  NATO and the US were already prepared to "confirm" the story.  Then select politician in the EU play there role and talk of the breaking of international law.

But is that all there is to it?  Why did they go ahead and burn the credibility of the Guardian over this story?  If it is just BS that is forgotten by the public in a few days then it was expensive as the Guardian will no longer be trusted by anyone paying attention.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:29 | 5098832 Coke and Hookers
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This appears to be fake as you say, and there are too many holes in the story.

#1 Western "reporters" see a russian column drive into Ukraine - right in front of them.

#2 Ukie artillery hits the column in the middle of the night without any artillery observation assets in the air.

This is total bullshit.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 19:26 | 5100247 Idaho potato head
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The lies are covering the sky like an impenetrable cloud that is blotting out the sun.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:26 | 5098818 HardAssets
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Putin wants the focus to be on the civilian casualties & the shelling by Ukraine forces (puppets of the US neocons).

Why would Putin overtly cross the border with his military at this point in time? Not a smart strategy.

Best strategy - make sure the convoy only has food & medicine & essentials. Film it's transit and passing it out to grateful civilians. Film any actions against it by the Ukes and broadcast that worldwide. The longer term strategy is to show the Europeans how insane are the US neo-cons.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098492 john39
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but this is a really odd and stupid lie...   bought some attention for a couple hours, tops...  and then what? kiev is already at zero credibility, so why make it worse in such an obvious way...  odd.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:28 | 5098527 McMolotov
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"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:41 | 5098609 fonzannoon
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something tells me that quote was said by a guy lying next to a chick trying to get his pants on while his wife runs screaming out of the room.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:42 | 5098610 Horseless Headsman
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And a leopard can't chenge his shorts!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:44 | 5098624 negative rates
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It was he that built the house of lies.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 22:39 | 5100878 HardAssets
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Someone could've made a helluva lot of money with such a lie that would hold up for a few hours.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:24 | 5098501 IANAE
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"Andrei, you've lost another submarine?"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:30 | 5098536 mastersnark
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That movie is where I learned Connery chews with his mouth open and incessantly smacks his lips.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:28 | 5098530 BolanosGhost
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A parable for the 21st century: The Boy Who Cried Bear.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:48 | 5098562 Ham-bone
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Class - Welcome to FALSE FLAG 101 - today we will add a new chapter  to the glorious history including... Vietnam attacked US warships in Gulf of Tonkin..Lusitania gone down...Rumsfiled stilll knows where the WMD are and there N and S and E and W of somewhere near oil fields...LOL

9/11...WTC building 7 fell down because foreigners hate us for our freedom

Syrian government gasses it's own people...with gas shot by US funded ISIS troops and Saudi supplied gas?!?

MH 370 flies off into the ether...on it's way to Beijing

MH 17 "shot down" by bad Russia while flying over Ukraine...

and the beat goes on

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:51 | 5098661 FrankDieter
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The tylers fell for the lie !

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:41 | 5098886 Terminus C
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you fell for the lie... as you think this is the truth.  In human activity, there is no truth, only perception.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:58 | 5098689 S.M.T.U.Q.I.
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Obozoma tells so many lies just add one more.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:15 | 5098431 pods
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So the Ukes bombed their own armor?

pods

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:26 | 5098517 Urban Redneck
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Wouldn't be the first time...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:36 | 5098558 ThirdWorldDude
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Don't you find it funny that The Guardian's journos who "observed" the russian military column crossing into Ukraine never ever managed to shoot the whole situation, tanks & APCs & border demarkation & holes in the barbwire &...

Think about it. What a chance to make yourself a part of history by recording it! But... nope, nada. All we ever got was that single cellphone-made snapshot of an APCs rear end along with the "official" story.

 

[EDIT]: added a link to Guardian's webpage with the actual article.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:50 | 5098654 McMolotov
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Journalists hang out in Russia and take pictures with the white truck convoy dudes, apparently invited by Russia. Journalists snap a picture of an APC, also still in Russia, says so right in the article. Journalists then say they saw a military column cross the border — but no pictures this time, sorry.

Truly groundbreaking coverage by The Grauniad.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:57 | 5098686 Winston Churchill
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I think Her Majestys Govt.  has their grauniads in a vice.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:01 | 5098703 john39
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hard to find a good source for who really owns the guardian, but this is telling:

"The Guardian and its parent groups participate in Project Syndicate, established by George Soros, and intervened in 1995 to save the Mail & Guardian in South Africa, but Guardian Media Group sold the majority of its shares in the Mail & Guardian in 2002."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian#Ownership

of course the rumor as was that this paper, like many others, was a rothschild owned propaganda piece.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:43 | 5098894 Terminus C
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Who says that Soros is not a Rothschild owned piece?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:05 | 5098717 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Think about it. What a chance to make yourself a part of history by recording it!

For reporters at The Tardian, the aspiration is to make yourself a part of history by fabricating it. There is probably a promotion and a cash bonus waiting for the first reporter whose lies prompt the start of WW3.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:40 | 5098882 Stumpy4516
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TWDude

I agree the Guardian's story is full of holes.

But the Guardian did so on orders from someone who coordinates with Kiev and NATO.  Certain EU politicians were already prep'd to make statements as were some in the UK.

Why did they expend so much capital on this, assuming it will become clear it was a lie, including discrediting one of their controlled news outlets in this way.  Is this the first of a series of already planned false stories and false flags to be unfolded in sequence to justify some type of direct action against Russia.  Such as using the SWIFT system against Russia while they can.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:02 | 5098996 BlindMonkey
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Show me the consequences for the lie of MH17. Hint, there isn't any (yet).

ProTip: if there are no consequences, loot/lie/start a war all you want.

Sat, 08/16/2014 - 03:14 | 5101345 StychoKiller
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Milo Minderbinder is Ukrainian??

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:15 | 5098433 IridiumRebel
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Ukraine gov is a lying farce.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:21 | 5098472 Gringo Viejo
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Well, look at it's mentor.
The child is father to the man.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:15 | 5098434 SheepDog-One
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Lemme be clear here.....we're gonna lie to some folks.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098489 813kml
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Dear Leader lies about as well as he golfs.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:03 | 5099010 BlindMonkey
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He would be #1 in the PGA if the scorers and officials were as apt to look away as the global media is.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:15 | 5098437 ZippyBananaPants
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Obviously this is correct, the market is going back up!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:16 | 5098447 drink or die
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Why do people still listen to the Ukraine propaganda machine?  Everything they release is false info.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:17 | 5098449 starman
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Russian roulette or Russian chess? They're excellent at both.

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:18 | 5098452 jubber
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Is this these two pricks from the Guardian again?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:19 | 5098455 IridiumRebel
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This is the gov we back...a lying sack of shit fascist nazi gov....fuck me.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:24 | 5098495 813kml
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Are you talking about the US or Ukraine?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:26 | 5098514 IridiumRebel
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both

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098572 Anarchy 99
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actually all 3, the US has 2 governments, the highest is of course...AIPAC

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:06 | 5099015 BlindMonkey
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That was a sweet softball he thee to you right over the plate right? :)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:18 | 5098456 disabledvet
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Maybe they're just screwing around with the market....

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098486 max2205
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Of course, it's Opex day

Love,

JPM

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:18 | 5098459 robertocarlos
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"They" were shooting back. Now that's imagination.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:19 | 5098465 grgy
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There would be destroyed Russian equipment and dead Russian soldiers. Unless they actually PROVE it happened, it didn't.  I strongly suspect that their proof will not be forthcoming. It's pure Ukranian bullshit.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:30 | 5098542 Z_End
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Exactly. There is nothing showing up anywhere to validate the Ukraine story.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:46 | 5098634 Horseless Headsman
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And if this were a Russian combat column, there would be Uke parts strewn about the area.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:56 | 5098972 11b40
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That is exactly right.

IF Russia sent in APC's, there would be plenty of support.  It would be on like Donkey Kong, and if the Ukes struck at them, the Ukes would quickly be toast.  No way Russia sends armor into Ukraine only to allow it to be blown to bits and not retaliate.  In my opinion, the day is approaching when Russian trrops, armor, and support will march into Ukraine....but it won't be casually, and it won't be half-assed, and it won't be a secret long, as the Ukraine casualties will be there for the world to see.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:21 | 5098466 grgy
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Double post. Sticky mouse button I guess.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:20 | 5098467 SpanishGoop
Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:22 | 5098473 oudinot
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I tell you one thing if I invested 5 billion for a coup I sure as hell would have installed  more coherent puppets than these Ukranian neo-Nazi  jokers.

Baghdad Bob is the only public face in recent martial  hstory that I would rate lower.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:25 | 5098512 cougar_w
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No no we loved Bob. He was excellent. I still go back and watch his stuff on Youtube, there are lots of "Best of" compilations now.

I keep hoping he'll come out of retirement.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:09 | 5099040 BlindMonkey
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Please, please, please bring that cat out. Even if he is just a product spokesman. He was the best flakman EVER.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:30 | 5098531 kchrisc
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"I tell you one thing if I invested 5 billion for a coup I sure as hell would have installed  more coherent puppets than these Ukranian neo-Nazi  jokers."

But then even at $5Bil. who wants to risk ending up like Saddam, Gaddafi, the Shah, Noriega, Mubarak, Morsi, Diem...

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:31 | 5098538 nope-1004
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Yes, but which side now represents the "Baghdad Bob"?  Seems to me the propaganda machine is now not the "crazy enemy", but our crazy .gov.

So depressing what the West has become, only because it is run by desperate bankers trying to stop the sure bankruptcy they face, as insolvency is here and now.

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:39 | 5098592 cougar_w
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The Bankers don't care what all they destroy to avoid bankruptcy. This is the very heart of their corrupt evil.

That's why we can never allow them to rise again. Their hundred years immortality does not go forward. Ashes to ashes and then they must remain ashes.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:00 | 5098697 Winston Churchill
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A gold stake thru' their heart is the only way to be sure.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:47 | 5098929 Terminus C
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Who do you really think owns all the gold?  The people?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:21 | 5098475 Impoverished Ps...
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They will not stop until WW3 is started.

 

Look at what is going on in Missouri - the US is split in two by the wealth divide.

They need the big reset otherwise the US will implode.

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:31 | 5098544 robertocarlos
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The USSA Kiev will not stop. That's why I said "send in the tanks". Faulty logic on my part though. For now.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:42 | 5098608 Dr. Engali
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The U.S will implode regardless of what happens. There is no common bond that will carry it's citizens through any reset.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:21 | 5098477 ekm1
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That's why I said: "assuming it is true".

I grew up with communist propaganda and can smell it at first odour. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:21 | 5098479 Squid Viscous
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My money is on the ukrainian Willy Wonka guy is lying through his teeth...

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:24 | 5098505 813kml
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False teeth, too much milk chocolate.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:22 | 5098480 LawsofPhysics
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Once again, only the U.S. and it's western allies can be allowed to provide "humanitarian aid"...

 

dumbasses, get with the program...

(and start a bombing campaign in a country 6,000 miles away like we do)

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:22 | 5098485 kchrisc
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The radio call sign of the column was probably MH-17.

An American, not US subject.

 

Note: I like how when the stench of the bullshit that is/was MH-17 rose too high they abandoned it like a midget whore on Christmas.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:51 | 5098951 Terminus C
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I never abandon my midget whore, especially at Christmas... damn man, don't you have a heart?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:23 | 5098493 blindman
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i hope they include this clip.
Nuland Grilled on Neo-Nazis in Ukraine & Money U.S. is Spending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TpZa4OMFVk

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:25 | 5098503 alexcojones
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"Uh, Hollywood. Anybody! Please pick up the phone!,

Porky here - We need some CGI of destroyed Russian column!"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:27 | 5098524 cougar_w
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LOL!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:24 | 5098504 Moustache Rides
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Kiev/NATO--  Oops that was supposed to be next week's false flag.. our bad.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:29 | 5098520 JuliaS
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This reminds me of an old Russian joke about a man going around a mental institution snapping his fingers furiously.

"Why do you do that?" asks the doctor.

"It's to keep the alligators away!" the man replies.

"But there aren't any alligators in Russia?!" the doctor looks puzzled.

"See how well it's working!"

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:33 | 5098559 NOTaREALmerican
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Huh,  that's probably a variation (original) of the joke they used to tell in Chicago.

 

Person 1: Mayor Daley appointed his cousin to head the tidal wave department.

Person 2: There's never been a tidal wave in Chicago.

Person 1:  See what a good job they are doing!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:48 | 5098627 JuliaS
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Another one I like from the post USSR days.

An American businessman invites his Russian partner to a banquet. Everything looks expensive. Lots of good food and wine.

"Where did you get the money to pay for all this?" asks the Russian.

"You see that bridge over the river? Well, we figured how to build it in half the time and with half the funds. With the money saved we hosted this party."

Not to be outdone, next year Russian businessman invites his American colleague over to Russia. His party is just as extravagant. Food, drinks, women.

"Where did you get the money to pay for all this?" asks the American.

"See that bridge over the river?" Russian points out the window.

"Nope."

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:47 | 5098642 negative rates
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Do you feel like hurting anyone? Especially yourself, or others? Just had to ask, from the brass, you know how it is. Dr. give me the news.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:29 | 5098529 NOTaREALmerican
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This is not the Convoy you are looking for...

BtFD, young Rubber Duck.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:32 | 5098553 robertocarlos
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You chocolate milked that movie to death.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:29 | 5098535 Anarchy 99
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Nothing, well almost nothing, matters untill:

Germany's federal election set for September 22. German President Joachim Gauck has officially set the date for the country's next federal election. The move comes after weeks of discussions between Germany's major political parties

Merkel stays Germany looks west.

Merkel goes  Germany looks east.  

Hello????    Poland....are you worried yet?

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:53 | 5098962 Terminus C
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How quaint, you still think elections matter.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:31 | 5098539 Bastiat
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Looked like bullshit from the start. I mean why the fuck would Putin send in a wimpy little column of APCs and undermine his aid gambit?  Totally ridiculous.  These assholes are desperate to provoke Russia, that much is certain.  Other than civilians and his own troops, the only thing Porky will "destroy" is his underwear if he succeeds.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:42 | 5098612 cougar_w
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They have to bring the Russia bear snarling into the picture -- murdering orphans if it can be managed -- or the Uke leadership don't survive another week.

This sort of thing is Putins game to lose. It's over baby.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:53 | 5098672 Bastiat
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Yep, he's got 'em by nuts and has since before the coup; that goes for the Europeans too.  The US/Brit strategy has be reactive and ineffective and is on the brink of total failure.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:31 | 5098541 ebworthen
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It all depends on what your definition of "there" is...and "destroyed"...and "democracy".

The current "democracy" in Ukraine was established by overthrowing the elected President and outlawing the Communist Party.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:30 | 5098543 Space Animatoltipap
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The multidimensions of a Matrix, always confusing. Like innocent animals are confused in the slaughterhouse.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:33 | 5098545 ramacers
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Guardian et al not reliable.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:33 | 5098555 horseman
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Kiev was instructed to say this.  Now that its public, the west has the cover to blame Kiev for bringing down the airliner.  Obama will say he didn't know they were such lying POS's and then wash his hands of them.  Black box recordings to be released later.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:33 | 5098556 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Choco-Jew" must be test marketing his new cannabis laden candy bar...

It's called "mouth wide shut"!!!

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:36 | 5098579 Anarchy 99
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"Choco-Jew" very creative    +1000

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098565 Edge.case
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we are dealing with some combination of  "desperate/stupid/arrogant" - not sure the breakdown, percentage-wise

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098569 One And Only
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What would be funny is if Ukraine destroyed their own convoy.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:37 | 5098582 Bastiat
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That was about my second thought:  dummy convoy with Russian trucks (what other kind does the Ukraine army have?) a few pics of guys in Russian army uniforms. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:34 | 5098571 loonyleft
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I'm guessing some shit about MH17 will be coming out soon. Probably not going to make the US and Ukraine look too good. 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:38 | 5098589 Bastiat
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I upvoted you just because it's Friday and I'm feeling optimistic.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:37 | 5098586 tony wilson
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let us start a nuclear war on the word of jew boys from the mi6 outpost telegraph and the guardian.

what does these jew boy journos have to say about cam moron dead doctor david kelly and south african missing nukes.

or the rothschild kosher blood pumping inside this bullingdon boys fat fucking body or of his sham marriage to sam cam jewish royaltyfuckin nuttin.

bollox,balls ballderdash and piffle what what.

lets have the next talmudic lie incoming

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:39 | 5098593 Cow
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It never takes the Putin Apologists long to burn up the keyboards

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:43 | 5098617 Tenshin Headache
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I don't think many here harbor illusions about Putin, but atm he's making the other parties look quite bad.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:47 | 5098637 besnook
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i will cheer anyone from fergeson to moscow who takes the present usa .gov down. i want my country back......which will get that fn israeli monkey off our backs.

 

 

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 16:42 | 5099605 Ventnor
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Dear Mr. Cow,

It's not hard to figure.  The two parties to this conflict -- Kiev/Washington and Moscow -- are pushing two distinct solutions to the problem posed by Ukraine's complete lack of viability as a state as now constitued: Kiev/Wahington seeks to cleanse Eastern Ukraine of its Russians. They believe Ukraine must remain a unitary state and to this end must be forcibly Ukrainianized even if this requires genocide.  Consider Porosehnko's policy during the brief cease fire in early July: you can leave and go to Russia, or you can stay but first you must drop your weapons (i.e., meekly submit to forced Ukrainianization.) Kiev/Washington's would certaintly solve the problem of Ukraine's utter lack of viability as a state. Trouble is -- it's a Nazi-style solution.

Then there is Moscow's approach: immediate cease-fire along with negotiations to re-constitute Ukraine on a viable basis: end the practice of Kiev centrally appointing governors, regional autonomy along the lines of pre-Lincoln USA (in fact more like the US of the Articles of Confederation-- i.e., pre-1789), neutrality as a constitutional provision (i.e., non-membership of any military bloc), Ukrainian and Russian both given the legal status of official languages of state (in Finland, 5% of the population is of Swedish originand most of those are completely assimilated, but Swedish is one of Finland's two official languages), and a solution to the pipeline issue that would have Russian throughput, Ukrainian ownership (plus transit fees) and European (most likely German) management of the network, etc.

Now do you see what so many ZH people think V. V. Putin is in the right?  His approach is not neo-Nazi,but really quite enlightened.

So, if VVP wants peace, why is he supporting the pro-Russian forces in the East?  It is absolutely unclear that his support amounts to all that much; certainly the pro-Russians regard it as woefully inadequate.  But he supports them for 2 reasons: 1) the Washington-backed Ukrainian military is coming at Donetsk and Lugansk with genocidal intent, and 2) if Moscow were not supporting the East Ukrainian forces, Kiev would have no incentive whatsover to negotiate.  One suspects that if Poroshenko were master in his house, those negotiations would have taken place long since. Clearly, Washington calls the shots, and Washington is determined to dragoon Ukraine into its hive of compliant states no matter the cost in human lives.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:38 | 5098594 ThroxxOfVron
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TIME & GEO STAMPED PICTURES OF THE SMOKING RUBBLE OF THE RUSSIAN COLUMN OR IT SIMPLY DID NOT HAPPEN.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:48 | 5098613 Joe Tierney
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I have a question - If someone is lying, and you know they is lying, can you shoot'em?

 

Well sure. Use your own discretion.

 

(I watched "Armed and Dangerous" the other night and I'm still laughing!)

 

Then last night I watched Mystery Science Theater 3000, the movie "I accuse my parents". And eveyone in that hilarious movie is lying.

 

And I'm laughing my butt off still.

 

So who cares who's lying - Russia or Kiev? The fact is they're moving toward war along with the rest of the world - accept it and put on a funny movie tonite.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:44 | 5098625 besnook
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it is just soros pumping his book.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:45 | 5098635 JR
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This goes under the definition of “embedded.” and lying - by pretending not to know. Pro-Israeli officials now are so embedded in the American government that even military weapons, missiles and ammunition in vast quantities can be “sold” and transferred to Israel without the alleged knowledge or permission of Washington bureaucrats.

Obama Was Unaware of Arms Transfers to Israel: Officials 'Blind-Sided' When Israel Took Arms Without Asking | Antiwar.com

by Jason Ditz, August 14, 2014

The Obama Administration has halted missile shipments to Israel and a huge new diplomatic row, which some officials are calling a “very serious rupture” is emerging tonight, after the Wall Street Journal revealed Israel was taking US weapons to use in Gaza without the permission of the White House.

According to US officials, the Israeli Defense Ministry was getting arms directly from the Pentagon stockpile in their country without asking either the White House or the US State Department’s permission. This was done in spite of the arms coming concurrent with direct US-Israeli talks on another $225 million in US funding for their Iron Dome system.

We were blind-sided,” noted one US diplomatic, while others said they were particularly concerned that Israel took artillery instead of precision-guided arms to use during their bombardment of civilian areas of Gaza.

It was particularly galling that Israel took the arms without asking the White House, since the billions of dollars in annual US aid has essentially bankrolled the entire Gaza War, and having burned through all their US-provided arms and ammo, they simply went to the Pentagon warehouse and grabbed some more.

Pentagon officials are trying to downplay the incident, saying that Israel didn’t need the permission of the White House or State Department to take the arms. Whether or not that is strictly true is unclear, but doing so was clearly irksome to the administration.

In addition to stopping the shipments, the State Department announced a new “review” of all arms shipments to Israel, though they insisted the timing of this was coincidental, and was simply a function of concerns about the invasion of Gaza.

http://news.antiwar.com/2014/08/14/obama-unaware-of-arms-transfers-to-israel/

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 13:55 | 5098679 besnook
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so israel is now stealing weapons from the usa. i bet everyone involved gets arrested for theft, treason and espionage just like the bankers paid for their crimes.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 14:46 | 5098917 oudinot
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Lucky they didn't steal a pack of cigarettees; if they had they would have been shot.

Fri, 08/15/2014 - 15:16 | 5099069 BlindMonkey
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If some dude puts a wad of $100s in your left, back pocket and you spend a few is it really stealing?

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