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"Anti-Putin" Alliance Fraying: Germany, Slovakia, Greece, Czech Republic Urge End To Russian Sanctions
Last week Germany reported that in the second quarter, its GDP declined by 0.2%, worse than Wall Street consensus. This happened a few shorts days after Italy reported a second consecutive decline in its own GDP, becoming the first Europen country to enter a triple-dip recession. What's worse, Europe's slowdown took place before the brunt of Russian sanctions hit. Surely in the third quarter the GDP of Germany, a nation whose exports accounts for 41% of GDP, will be even worse, with whisper numbers of -1% being thrown casually around, but one thing is certain: Europe is about to enter its third recession since the Lehman collapse just as we forecast at the end of 2013, a "triple-dip" which may become an outright depression unless Draghi injects a few trillion in credit money (which will do nothing but delay the inevitable and make it that much worse once the can can no longer be kicked), and unless normal trade ties with Russia are restored.
Which means one thing: for Europe to resume the status quo, it needs to break away from the "western" alliance and the sanctions imposed upon the Kremlin which solely benefit the populist agenda of Washington, and certainly not Europe proper, which it is now quite clear, is far more reliant on Russia than vice versa. it is also something Putin apparently was aware of from the very beginning.
And now, that realization is starting to spread to Europe's own countries, which - while the new cold war was only one of rhetoric were perfectly happy to go for the ride - but now that trade war has finally broken out, suddenly increasingly more want out.
As we reported previously, it all started with the Greeks, a nation of heavy food exports into Russia, who were the first to announce their displeasure with the "Stop Putin" coalition:
the moment Russia retaliated, the grand alliance started to crack. Enter Greece which has hundreds of millions in food exports to Russia, and which was the first country to hint that it may splinter from the western "pro-sanctions" alliance. According to Bloomberg, earlier today the Greek foreign minister and former PM said that "we are in continuous deliberations in order to have the smallest possible consequences, and if possible no significant impact whatsoever."
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And making it very clear that this will be a major political issue was a statement by the main opposition party Syriza which today said that the Greek government's "blind obedience to the Cold War strategies of Brussels and Washington will be disastrous for country’s agriculture." In a moment of surprising clarity, Syriza asked govt to immediately lift all sanctions to Russia, as they don’t contribute to a solution of the Ukrainian crisis, and "instead fuel an economic and trade war, in which Greece has unfortunately become involved." Syriza concluded that the government hasn’t weighted Greece’s special interests and bilateral relations with Russia.
Then it was Slovakia whose premier Robert Fico criticized Ukraine for preparing sanctions against Russian persons and companies, and he has called on Ukraine not to approve them, expressing concerns that the legislation could result in a halt to natural gas supplies.
If the conflict between Ukraine and Russia escalates, the legal norm could cause interruption of natural gas supplies to Slovakia (and to Western Europe) via Ukraine from Russia, he said.
Slovakia depends on supplies of Russian gas. However, if gas supplies via Ukraine were interrupted, Slovakia would get gas through backflow from the West.
"It is strange that a country that has signed an association agreement with the EU and which we are trying to help is taking one-sided steps that endanger the individual economic interests of EU member countries, instead of coordinating its approach with the EU," Fico said.
"We do not want to be a hostage in the Russian-Ukrainian problem. We expect Ukraine not to adopt formal steps that, if implemented, can endanger our interests. A country that has signed the association agreement should not behave like that," Fico declared.
Poland too complained last week, however for now it finds the fault not with the "alliance" but with Russia for daring to retaliate to western sanctions.
Poland's agriculture minister went on television to announce the country was taking action against Russia's new import ban. "We believe Russia has broken international law in both its embargo against Poland and its embargo against the EU," Marek Sawicki said. Russia banned the import of Polish fruit and vegetables in early August - a move Sawicki said would cost Poland 0.6 percent of GDP.
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"If a WTO member state believes another WTO member state has taken a measure that is not in conformity with WTO rules, the affected WTO member state may request mediation," attorney and WTO expert Eric Pickett said.
Good luck. It is only a matter of time before this futile anger at Putin turns not to the logical response to sanctions, but at the instigator of the sanctions themselves.
Then it was most vibrant economy in central Europe, the Czech Republic, where overnight the finance minister voiced the loudest anger at Russian sanctions yet. From Bloomberg:
- SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA MAKE NO SENSE, CZECH FINANCE MINISTER SAYS
And finally, it is the country whose fate is what this conflict is all about, because should Germany decide it has had enough of DC's geopolitical brinksmanship, one which always "costs" European allies far more than it does the US, and aligns with the Russia-China-India axis, then the "Eurasian Crescent" will be complete, and the countdown to reserve currency transition may officially begin.
Sure enough, Bloomberg reports that sanctions against Russia are hurting sentiment at German companies, according to Focus magazine which cites the BGA Federation of German Wholesale and Foreign Trade, and the DIHK German Association of Chambers of Commerce and Industry.
According to the magazine, "loss of trust in Russian partners is hurting business more than the sanctions themselves, as German companies cut trade more than required."
The implications are clear: cost-benefit analysis has shifted too far to the left, and while Germany was ok with supporting the "west" in its game of escalating sanctions vs Putin, at this point there is no further support, and in fact the pendulum is starting to swing in the opposite direction.
So with increasingly more eastern and central European nations vocally opining against Russian sanctions, and with the Ukraine government now clearly engaging in open provocations to curry popular support for some "unfathomable" warmongering cause (unless of course it can provide evidence it did indeed destroy a Russian military convoy on its territory), how long until the "western" alliance finally folds under its own weight and has no choice but to roll back the sanctions and de-escalate, in the process handing Putin the biggest diplomatic knockout round yet?
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They just started them. Jeez make up your minds.
Putin 100%
Obama 0%
Cold War Batting Avges.
y3maxx,
You post it too biased to be taken seriously.
And, what is 100% sure in foreign policy... or anything in life, for that matter?
Death, taxes, and coffee.
Europeans get that the USSA instigated a coup and is trying to provoke Russia into war. They are not interested in suffering for the USSA agenda.
Moreover, the europeans do not want to be on the losing side, since the Ukies are getting their asses kicked in the Donbass. Check out this most disgusting video of Ukie casualties. I could only watch it 4 minutes of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oidlySgqW1A
Also there is this video with english subtitles, 2 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftI
Ah yes, the coalition of the fuckingfedup, coming along swimingly...
Is this the part where Barry throws a real hissy fit and breaks a few golf clubs while screaming something in Kenyan about putting a spear through Putin??
Nope..
There will be absolutely no comment on this at all..
Keep your eyes and ears peeled tho for some pearls of wisdom about ferguson reflections. and take special note of the goon squad standown to help prolong the fun.
From beanbags and gassing, to a warm welcome.
After witnessing events such as Katrina, the stand down is going to have the opposite of the intended effect on some of the more open minded individuals. Some of them are going to say "What? I need to look out for my own ass because the cops won't do it for me? "
Europe is in the same situation regarding the US gov as is the middle class regarding the US gov.
What is occurring is not for their benefit.
Of course Europe is backing off. Winter is coming and they need natural gas!
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/04/its-not-wise-for-europe-to-play-ga...
indeed you are right anus. the term "populist" (a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people), used in the post to describe washington's policies in the ukraine, couldn't be more wrong.
these policies represent the interests of international zionism, the military industrial complex and those who wish to see russia "conquered". not ordinary people who don't give a shit about any of that (except to the modest degree they have been propagandized into believing this somehow is going to protect them from attack by the russkies).
you want populism, see ferguson or the reaction to the assault on our southern border.
Middle class USA and Europe getting trashed. Make common cause.
Go back and make yourself watch the rest of it. This is a globalized economy. The periphery is burning, and that fire is going to spread inwards. That shit is coming here, but it will be worse. You need to get used to it for your own sake. Then you need to understand that that video doesn't capture the smells of death.
The Ukies need to go after the dual citizen oligarchs in Kiev. Greece should work closer with Russia because they are being screwed by the EU-SSR and corrupt Greek pols.
And also, Russia states yesterday to Ukraine and, by extension, the rest of Europe with, as if often the case, humor and subtlety (as opposed to the screeching and puerile threats of western "diplomats"): we don't need to do business in or with your country, especially in matters related to national defense — but your best engineers are welcome here.
Deputy Industry and Trade Minister Yuri Slusar:
I am very sorry... The project for resuming the production and upgrade of the unique plane Ruslan is off the agenda. That’s too bad. The niches that the Ukrainians and we might have taken... Designers there and producers here... Such chances and opportunities are very few to go around. In the world technological race such competences are in great demand. Any engineering company can merely dream of having them.”
Excerpt above is from:
Resumption of Antonov-124 jumbo jet project with Ukraine grounded - trade ministry
16 August
new Ginsengbull,
You're good!
Now, I have to rethink all my assumptions.
Escrava Isaura
You seem to be pardon my french, trollish.
Member over 4 yrs, posts only from june 2014 till now, where have you been and most importantly, WHO ARE YOU REALLY?
You seem "new" to me.
scrappy,
I discovered Zero Hedge when it was a blog, if I am not mistaken. I just liked it!
I learned a lot reading its commentators. I became I member so I could save the comments.
Anyway, to answer your question, I decided to join the conversation because I think it's a great mental exercise, for me, at least, challenging, and many of the comments went unchallenged—not that I expect to challenge all of them.
Not sure how much I will be able to add, but I am learning a lot by this experience.
Hope that I answered your question.
Watson, is that you?
Watson's with me.
The silicon version?
Alexander Graham Bell's first telephonic conversation (historically expanded):
"WATSON! Come HERE, I NEED you!'
(Watson comes obediently padding in to the room, sporting silicon implants. Bell smiles, pleased with the results, and says, 'All right! Now bend over, bitch, and I'll show you where the "wild goose" goes.')
Save the comments? This account is not mine. I've been hacked. I mean undo. "pulls computer plugs out of wall".
I've noticed that the register of comments only seems to go back 3 months, regardless of how long the member has been a member. I"ve checked a few of the venerable old-timers and that's what I've found.
https://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&authuser=0
Google doesn't care whether the comments are on on the live server or the archive server... (or you can manually enter search strings through an anonymous Google/NSA front end, if you know the required syntax)
I like it Urban. Will likely use it. Thanks and bear in mind we've always been at war with East Asia. I mean the past is changeable now.
If 'hook'd on GOOKLE' werked for Lois Lerner, SURELY it werks for YOU!
Why is it that I can go back to the time when I sent my FIRST EMAIL EVER SENT and read it in its' entirety?
"I'm sorry, but you can't access records older than 90 days."
No, I CAN'T and YOU CAN'T, but SOMEONE (or SOMETHING) can.
'SURELY, YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!'
'I AM SERIOUS (AND DON'T CALL ME SHIRLEY).'
"Thanks and bear in mind we've always been at war with East Asia."
(fix, repair quote...)
"Thanks and bear in mind we've always been at war with Eurasia."
What is 100% certain is that if you do business with Putin you will get screwed.
On the contrary, Russia respects contracts and law, particularly international law, rather than the USAs anything goes, we'll pervert, for our own political purposes, any and all systems entrusted to us (such as the SWIFT interbank clearance system), even if it hurts us more than you.
Note the constant screeching from the west that Russia will "turn off the gas" — which is what Russia won't do (so now the Ukrainian nazis and thugs, puppets of the USA, are threatening to do it).
Russia is much smarter than the idiot western governments than to "shoot itself in the foot," most clearly demonstrated by the genius, including the timing and execution, of the food import ban:
The birth of a new financial-economic system: the example of Russia and Argentina
12 August
LOL! Like GM bondholders. Oh wait....
These links reveal unbelievable statements regarding the untrustworthiness of the current US Fed junta.
From the 2008 interview, here’s Gorbachev, for example:
MOSCOW, (RIA Novosti - 07/05/2008) – Promises made by U.S. leaders cannot be trusted, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph published on Wednesday.
“The Americans promised that NATO wouldn’t move beyond the boundaries of Germany after the Cold War, but now half of central and eastern Europe are members, so what happened to their promises? It shows they cannot be trusted,” he said in Paris…
“I sometimes have a feeling that the United States is going to wage war against the entire world,” the former Soviet leader said.
“The United States cannot tolerate anyone acting independently. Every U.S. president has to have a war,” he concluded, also saying that the world had squandered the chance in the decade after the Cold War to “build a new world order.”
The link also has quotes from Gorbachev recently on Ukraine.
Moscow Times: (Mar. 19 2014) Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has defended Russia’s takeover of Crimea, saying that the referendum among the peninsula’s voters corrected a historical “mistake.”
“While Crimea had previously been joined to Ukraine based on the Soviet laws, which means [Communist] party laws, without asking the people, now the people themselves have decided to correct that mistake,” Gorbachev said on Monday, Interfax reported.
“This should be celebrated, not sanctioned,” he said.
@ 'aminorex':
"What is 100% certain is that if you do business with Putin you will get screwed."
Do you REALLY have an issue with sex?
Are you ANDROGENOUS; or ASEXUAL?
If Putin had a sister in the 'oldest profession', would she be making money too? (PROBABLY)
Do you have something against PROCREATION? (PROBABLY)
Frankly; if I could get screwed by doing business with PUTIN, I (and all red-blooded males on the entire PLANET) would be lining up for the opportunity. The ads here on ZH that call me to have sexual relations with comely Russian women are quite tempting.
Oh, I GET IT now.
You're DICKLESS.
Fuck off NSA troll bot.
This seems appropriate.
And that won't change any time soon as Right Sector on their own website promised to march on Kiev with all its reserve battalions and other fascist volunteers on Kiev in the next 48 hours if all the legal proceedings against their members are not withdrawn and they stop being used as cannon fodder in the war*. It turns out that having someone shoot back is a bit less fun than throwing Molotov cocktails at unarmed civilians and police.
*The post here http://pravyysektor.info/news/zvernennya-do-prezydenta-ukrajiny-vijskovo... does not mention being used as cannon fodder per se although they have suffered significant losses and they claim that those in the Interior Ministry are actively sabotaging them and their members etc. etc.
Maidan 3.0 here we come. I wonder what the EU and Barry would say if Chocoshenko was to use force against Right Sector.
These Ukies need to go after the oligarch dual citizens who started this shit. Yats, the candy man and all of Soros/Nudelman's puppets in the Ukraine. These morons need to wake up.
Its scary how easiy the Ukies are lulled into slaughter, supporting the banksters. That's some strong kool-aide.
I'm starting to get an ouchie! Make it stop!
Hahaha. hang in there Putin all them bitchez belong to you! F them yids and all their antics!
He must get tired of dealing with the children of the West.
Ummmmmm,,,, FUCK THE EU ?
Putin is so tough he once played Russian Roulette with a loaded gun,,,, AND WON!
Putin is so tough he killed Chuck Norris' meme and made it his own...
"I don't always eat the hearts of vanquished foes, but when I do, I prefer Mom-jeans-wearing twats."
Fico to dotiahol konecne po 20 rokoch lopoty az sem na Zerohedge a to este v roli peacemejkra a politika co dokaze dovidiet za roh :)
Plugged in to the'universal translator', this reads:
Fico's he finally after 20 years of busy here on Zerohedge and az's role in peacemejkra and co dokaze dovidiet policy for corner:) I understood a LITTLE of this filtered Slovack stuff, but, WHAT?Explosion Sun Glasses, Fuck yeah !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8qrriKcwvlY
How can anyone stop sanctions against a guy who looks like that? You can tell he's evil just by glancing at him! Even his mother would hate him!
I heard on FOX Newz that his mother was Hitler!
his mother was Hilters mother , "its 1939 all over again !"
Dang, that means he must be well over 100 years old. But he still looks pretty fit, must be all those virgin's blood smoothies like his hero Vlad the Impaler.
I don't get how you guys can joke about this! Look at his eyes, you can see nuclear explosions in them. It's on the cover of Newsweek, just look. The guy has to be the devil himself bent on destroying all that is good and pure and American. Just look at the eyes and you'll know!
And I bet that if you were to ever meet Putin, you would cower in fear and piss your pants... I've got a little message for you from Ronnie Johns...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
What's he going to do, kill me? I'm already dead.
DeadFred confirming that old maxim that dead men can't do sarcasm well sometimes.
Man there are a bunch of people on here who are completely tone deaf when it comes to sarcasm.
I'd ask for an autograph.
Man, imagine if the Nazis picked blonde hair and nuclear explosion eyes. Goodness!
There's a disturbingly large portion of the population that can be led to believe that.
>>>There's a disturbingly large portion of the population that can be led to believe that.
Given enough repetitions, by enough spokesperson, "large" equals a working majority.
You can, unfortunately, bank on it.
lemme guess the name of the reporter was hilary ?
No, Putin is Father of Hitlerz.
When it's this batty for the public to see, assume it's far worse behind the veil.
The "news" coming out lately (about everything) has been simply incredible. I can't remember it being this absurd, ever.
The flight recorder data from the plane carrying Campos has been "analyzed" already; so where's the data from MH17? I can feel the desperation from TPTB maybe it's just me.
If the MH17 flight recordings proved that Russia was guilty, they would have been released instantly, and all we would hear is the relentless blare of anti putin propaganda. The fact that MH17 was memory holed by the Mainstream media liars should tell you who is really guilty.
Brazilian presidential candidate Eduardo Campos was killed in an airplane crash on August 13th. Investigators of the crash have already made their black Box report public. So that's 3 days. I'm starting to hate the fucking idiots of the world.
"The two hours of audio, the maximum recording capacity of the equipment, which were received and validated by certified technicians, were not of the flight of 13 August," air force spokesman Pedro Louis Farcic said in a statement (in Portuguese).
Blank
the 2 hours of audio were "not of the flight of 13 August" ???
That doesn't sound suspicious at all ???
http://www.ibtimes.com/eduardo-campos-death-flight-data-was-not-recorded...
It's not the "analysis" that's problematic.
It's the politics against releasing an unaltered self-incriminating recording
coupled with many technical difficulties in counterfeiting an exonerating one.
Can't release the torture files because that "might create hostility" toward the US and it "partners".
Can't release the MH17 tapes because that "might create hostility" toward the US and it "partners".
besides, I believe it would be a daunting technical task to reconstruct the black box recording so as to discount Kiev complicity, and also be in exact agreement with a reconstructed tower tape recording. The counterfeit recordings would have to be able to pass expert scrutiny. To best be fully convincing, both remade recordings would additionally have to align with reputed US satellite observations and crash site evidence.
Doubtful if whatever findings are released will be comprehensive enough to allow such comparisons and review.
Doubtful we shall see anything much before the day we get to examine the JFK assassination files.
Can't release photo's of Bin Laden's dead body because it would be "offensive to muslims". Muslims show pics of Khaddafi's dead corpse a year later, no-one is offended.
Well the US, Saudi, UK and Israeli intel goons in Libya showed poor khadaffi being beaten to death and murdered. People like Craig Paul Roberts said Libya had one of the better societies inthe middle east and the people were well cared for, educated, fed, etc but the NWO wanted to steal Libya's gold and oil.
Compare this to people starving in corrupt Greece.
Yeah - good luck with the MH17 transscipts or the 9-11 pilot transcipts or ever finding any evidence that Adam Lanza, his mom or dad even existed.
Freddie you are a breath of fresh air around here.
http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2014/08/hitler-played-chess-with-lenin-in-19...
+1 Thanks. Good link. Hitler was an usurper working for the banksters. It is a shame the German military was not successful in taking him out. They tried.
I always enjoy Clare Daly talking about Obama and Irish politicians and media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsmcFfvWTCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnmwuRpfKr8
She smacks tax cheat Bono too.
Oh joy - youtube aka google running phony vote if you think the USA should invade Syria.
"Libya had one of the better societies inthe middle east and the people were well cared for, educated, fed, etc but the NWO wanted to steal Libya's gold and oil."
PHOTO: Tripoli prior to NATO destruction
Exactly. After demonizing its leader so the sheeple USA population won't object to the entire country being destroyed, the USA bombed Libya back to the stone age because of the example it provided of what a country can be like when its abundance is used to better the lives of its people rather than to enrich oligarchs.
Libya S.O.S. - war diary 2011/12
Excerpt:
Life in Libya with Leader Gaddafi:
1. Electricity for household use is free,
2. interest-free loans
3. during the study [i.e. while in school], governmant give to every student 2 300 dolars/month
4. receives the average salary for this profession if you do not find a job after graduation,
5. the state has paid for to work in the profession,
6. every unemployed person receives social assistance 15,000 $/year,
7. for marriage state pays first apartment or house (150m2) [i.e. wedding gift from the government was a house]
8. buying cars at factory prices,
9. LIBYA not owe anyone a cent,
10. free higher education abroad,
11. 25% of highly educated,
12. 40 loaves of bread costs $ 0.15,
13. water in the middle of the desert, drinking water,
14. 8 dinars per liter of oil (0.08 EUR),
15. 6% poor people,
16. for each infant, the couple received $ 5,000 for their needs.
Now, with all the destruction and chaos, they've made a different type of example out of Lybia. Now, its an example of what happens to your country if you challenge the Petro$. Just like the loan shark has to punch somebody's face in to show what happens when you don't pay the vig.
It doesn't even matter if the lies make sense anymore.
Kneel before Putz
as a whole, europe has been duped by britain's, poland's, and usa's rhetoric.
it's no surprise that these countries start waking up to smell the truth after exxonmobil continues to drill for russian oil in the arctic, despite the sanctions.
what's that smell?
oh yea, bullshit.
Either duped or strong-armed. I haven't heard a single peep from us gov fuckheads about Kara Sea drilling. Amazing.
...
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-varied, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rands, rubles, pounds and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic, and sub-atomic and galactic structure of things today.
And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And you will atone.
Am I getting through to you, Mr Beale?
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.
What do you think the Russians talk about in their Councils of State? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, mini-max solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bye-laws of of business. The world is a business, Mr Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.
And our children will live, Mr Beale, to see that ... perfect ... world in which there is no war nor famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit. In which all men will hold a share of stock.
All necessities provided. All anxieties tranquilized. All boredom amused.
-The Network, 1976, Money Speech
that's only because their investment portfolios would get creamed, since XOM is TBTF (or so they say)...
> "Well, you started it"
< "We did not start it!"
> "Yes, you did. You invaded Poland"
+1 just for the fawlty towers reference
Classic Basil.
The war?
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.
Neville Chamberlain just smiled from his grave.
To continue globalization, they will either have to conquer Russia or engage them. Nukes and Putin's domestic popularity make conquest unlikely. With the insane NATO military buildup on Russia's borders, number 2 is also out.
The opposite of globalization? Balkanization. It is beginning.
Poor Europe!!! It´s so stupid these commowealth where i live.
The sanctions are more dangerous for the european countries tha russia, but europe is the liege of usa, and they have to obey
No.
They don't.
how much you bet
Germany has to obey. And obey it does. France, Italy and the rest are irrelevant.
Biflation is causing nerves to fray as economies founder in the quicksand
Low growth, high inflation not acceptable: Finance Minister Arun Jaitley
http://dlvr.it/6dK3Rb
Talking about sand:
Ben Bernanke on 60 Minutes: "when there are sand castles built on beaches, there are lots of small waves which may hit them, with out any negative result. But when a tidal wave comes, everything is wiped out."
So, why are we so surprised?
The little lapping waves are one way to see it. I think of it as water damage dripping from the leaky roof and seeping up from the musty basement. Drip by drip undermines the foundation and rots the beams. The smell of rot and mildew is unmistakable
Actually, it's typically the small waves that destroy the sand castle. Gently lapping away at it, one small wave at a time. So yeah, Ben still lives in his own sheltered little world, I guess.
Did Uncle Ben charge 60 minutes 500k for that wonderful analogy.
Yea Reminds me of that Peter Sellars film Being There, about a simple minded gardner who everyone thought was an intellectual.
there is only one way for Europe - they must say to USA army on their soil "good bye"
That would be a mistake.
The US is less likely to nuke them while they are there.
But then again.
I still think that the US nuking Europe is an extremely unlikely scenario, that is bankster stomping grounds and would be akin to shitting in their own backyard. Mushroom clouds would spoil the view from their palaces.
Last resort only.But you better believe it was put on the table in private discusions.
Never let a nuke go to waste,so to speak.
In some distant future. Politically and economically, Europe = Germany. Germany has lost the war and is formally not a sovereign state. Germany will continue to abide by the directions of an anglosaxon banker oligarchy until it doesn't.
yeah you know europe is all talk as long as the usa is occupying them.
Also all those Fucking NGO Fifth Collumnists.
We're playing politics and Putin is playing cut throat. Yep, this is gonna end well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwRT4Gn4pLo
The Way of the Gun - Hearts scene =)
Barry has achieved a few other goals like pushing more nations away from the dollar and seek alternative ways of settling their international trades.
Also, he pushed China and Russia together. I remember Kissinger saying long ago the USA should avoid any policies that allow Russia and China become too close.
Hillary is distancing herself from Barry but I'm not sure it will help her in her upcoming bid for election. She herself has PO'd many nations accrding to some foreign analysts on TV last night.
conchita wurst is the modern "culture" of Europe; it has no spine, no vision and no philosophy. It is uprooted, GMOed, estrogenized, genetically degraded and totally overrun by the reptilian Zionists. The unelected and corrupt hyenas of EU don't even have a concept of what sovereignty and independence means.
All true - but....
Putin's hitting them where it hurts most - in the pocketbook.
So no matter their screwed-up culture and politics (and they are totally screwed-up as you point out so well) it still takes dough to finance it. Putin's going to come out of this the HUGE winner, as they cave in.
Just think of the message and precedent - Putin's Russia has the courage to stand up to the entire West, suffers short-term pushback, but comes out the Grand Winner. This precedent is going to reverberate around the globe for a long, long time and will be crucial in enabling Putin to assemble a true global anti-dollar axis. Tylers correct - Eurasian Crescent in-the-making!
Russia-India-China-Germany as the massive crescent-shaped horse-shoe magnet that pulls in all the rest of the non-U.S.-sycophant globe.
Can you say, "New World Order"? Sure!
Absolutely Hitlarious!
"The American way of life is not up for negotiation"
We have not seen the last of this new drive towards war and the US has certainly not run out of dirty tricks.
It's not even cold out yet !!!
Western leaders live in a 10 second soundbite, video clip world and assume the viewing public have the memory of goldfish.
Thinking ahead and patience easily beats that.
It really is that old chess vs checkers analogy
Strategy vs. tactics.
Though western leaders are starting to realize they need to learn chess.
In six words...
What - Took -Them - So -Fucking - Long and more importantly why aren't they being vocal to the international violations of law and acts of treason that have been committed against Ukraine's sovereignty with the overthrow of it's government in February to drag Russia into a war in order to legitimize these febble sanctions?...
When will members of the EU be bold enough to confront the Triad of the U.S., Israel and U.K. by telling them in public that they will not be fodder in a confrontation they have already started with Russia, and that NATO's "defensive charter" has been violated must be dissolved in order to ensure peace!
simply, this is the time they took to get analyst making maths so the glass man come with papers & say to council " mister, i think you might take a look at those notes, we have calculated that 4months more in such anti russia situation make europ explode"
q4 gdp negativ, stocks fall to ostrich's ass, east countries tension about gaz delivery if kiev keep messing around, week as dead meat economy ( greek ) cannot exporting to make money while they have 60% unemployment and a -65% wages since 2009.... be greek is really like this 300 movie...
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA
when they wake up those guy never do thing half the job, if you know what i mean.
expect real fight club in EU concil, when east countries will heard from old west ones " fuck you, you mean nothing to us. "
"When will members of the EU be bold enough"
when they kick out the incestual Rot Schild bankers. ie probably never.
What - Took -Them - So -Fucking - Long....
Your, American-Jewish, nuclear weapons.
Maybe you should have bit the bullet a while ago, because it looks more and more like you might be seeing some of those nukes after all.
"Populist agenda of Washington"???
Hardly.
If Europe stops the sanctions i hope that Putin will up the Russian counter sanctions and leave them in place just for a couple of months longer.
Hopefully that will teach Brussels a valuable lesson.
RU sanctions in place for 1 year.
Do you think RU is going to cancel new trade contracts just because EU is having diahrea?
IMO these markets are lost to the EU.
Exactly,just like the British empires markets in South America after WWI.
The EU is even more fucked than before.Didn't think it was possible.
The US is trying to destroy the EU's use as part of the new eurasian trade bloc.
This is an attack on the EU, just as much as on Russia.
US scorched earth policy if it has to retreat,either economic, or nuclear scorched earth will do.
Yup. The Europeans have no clue or the bankster families are doing this on purpose. Dave Cameron's tribe has worked for them for hundreds of years along with Milliband and the rest.
It is like the USSA has a gun to Europe's head and is threatening Putin that they will shoot Europe in the head if Putin moves. The USSA keeps shooting Europe and Putin watches impassively.
The one-year food import ban, contrasting with EU sanctions of three months, was a strong message to Russian farmers — and to BRICS and other friendly (particularly Latin American) food producers that they can invest in their agricultural export markets without fear — and to the EU that many, if not most, of these losses will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to reverse (very much unlike simply "turning off the gas" that the USA expected and wanted).
Perhaps it's time for one more good shove: a few exceptions on behalf of Greek small farmers, and a few additional bans targeting only specific German industry, which could very reasonably be expressed in terms of Russian defense security due to the unreliability of its western "partners."
Spot on, if the sanctions are relaxed expect Putin to allow this year's and contracted for food shipments in.
This will remove Russia's immediate shortages as there is not enough spare food instantly available in the world.
But just watch next year's contracts!!!
Go short on ag land in Eatern Europe.
Re. Shortages. I'm not seeing it. You must not be a farmer. Its HARVEST time in Russia. I expect there is abundance. Harvesting will proceed for 2 or 3 months. Plenty of time for nonEU exporters to make arraingements to participate in Russian markets. Expect to see containers of mangoes and pineapples arriving.
Brilliant.
Euros may enjoy temporary abundance. Farmers will loose money. The Euro tax payers will have to make it all right, 'cause that's how Europe works.
The Russians produce little their people want to consume other than its natural resources. Its amazing but store shelves are suddenly looking like they did in the 1970s under Brezhnev. Apparently, they never got that capitalism thingy.
Yes, well, the USSA produces what people everywhere are clamoring to consume: arrogance, followed by threats, followed by chaos, destruction, and death (increasingly targeted against its own people).
Reports here on ZH that indicated that USSAs store shelves are thinning included photos.
Where's your link to photos of those Russian store shelves?
LOL! The Russians don't have Ferguson either.
Russia spends $80 billion on defense versus probably $2 trillion the Obama's-NWO-USSA spends on endless crap while having WIDE open borders.
The Russians have state of the art missiles in all categories while the USSA has the insanely expensive F-35 which is one of the biggest pieces of shit ever made. The Russians S300/400/500 is the best in the world while the USSA sends Israel $500 more million for the Iron Dome which works less than 10% of the time.
The Russians have problems but they are making progress. The military seems to be for the Russian people while the Pentagon and USSA military do King Obama's bidding. Are you ex-military? One of Obama's boys?
They have this kickass rebel infantry.
Appearently, they are showing up, behind the lines, unannounced, at Junta artillery positions, shelling civillians. Modern artillery doesn't work too well at close range.
Russians produce little their people want to consume
hey duude
stick to surfing you fuckin rabbi
http://www.underwoodgardens.com/local-food-growing-your-own/russian-dach...
While many in the world are completely dependent on large scale agriculture, the Russian people feed themselves. Their agricultural economy is small scale, predominantly organic and in the capable hands of the nation's people. Russians have something built into their DNA that creates the desire to grow their own food. It's a habit that has fed the Russian nation for centuries. It's not just a hobby but a massive contribution to Russia's agriculture.
http://naturalhomes.org/naturalliving/russian-dacha.htm
If the EU stops sanctions and this thing cools down, Putin won't need to up his own sanctions. All it will take is a 'mechanical issue' with the gas pipelines - maybe lasting a week or so to fix. Just a little reminder to the EU.
from the saker blog
it real nice and informational like.
Brabantian said...
Re UK Guardian and its laughable 'Russian vehicles invading' story by an 'eyewitness journalist' who apparently does not have a camera phone -
Guardian is family newspaper of the Rothschilds, world's wealthiest family and Zionist sponsor, Guardian known for taking CIA-tied bribes and for lying pro-CIA articles ... like their 2013 lies pushing the Syria false-flag 'chemical weapons attack' hoaxes ...
The Russian FSB and SVR report on the fraud of CIA fake 'dissident Edward Snowden', specifically cites as purpose of Dick Cheney's and Zbig Brzezinski's friend 'Snowden', to pump up status of anti-Russian CIA media such as the Guardian ... the Guardian highly praised by Snowden when he takes time off from spreading lies about 11 Sep 2001 NYC towers demolition 9-11 truth.
« The Guardian is controlled by Guardian Media Group, whose chairman is Paul Myners, a past employee of N M Rothschild & Sons Limited. Guardian Media Group is owned by the Scott Trust, which became a limited private company in 2008, with all trustees becoming directors of the Scott Trust. Anthony Salz was appointed as a trustee of the Scott Trust in 2009; he is currently executive vice-chairman of the investment bank Rothschild ... »
Rothschild control of UK Guardian
The ultra-Zionist Rothschild family is the world's wealthiest, estimated by mainstream sources (Forbes etc) to have a wealth in excess of US $ 400 billion ($.4 trillion !), but they spread it among numerous family members and thus can avoid the 'top billionaires' lists.
Guardian led CIA's 'Operation Fake Dissident', the hoax of the liar and fraud Edward Snowden, who in fact never 'stole' any documents and said little actually new ... Snowden a spearhead against 9/11 truth; trying to terrorise the world with US surveillance; pumping up CIA's lying media like NY Times & UK Guardian; and fronting operations to trap, silence and kill whistleblowers who contact CIA journalist goons like the Guardian, or ex-pornographer, Rothschild family asset Glenn Greenwald, now funded by billionaire Pierre Omidyar who helped set up the murderers of Kiev Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin knows Snowden is a fraud on a mission to help murder Russians, & is indulgently holding him in Russia to trade with the West at later date:
Moscow intel agency report on CIA Edward Snowden fraud
16 August, 2014 10:09
recommended reading
Moscow intel agency report on CIA Edward Snowden fraud
thanx :)
I just read that Moscow Intel agency report. It was probably written by a former contributor who used to post on ZH under the name
Bankguy
Snowden admitted he was an agent for the CIA but he never talks about what they do and what he did. CIA is Red Sheild and the big families while NSA is more MIC. The Bushes, Clinton and Obama are all CIA.
I'm waiting for the first EU NATO "partner" to hold a referendum in which the people vote to withdraw from NATO. I think this will happen somewhere around - oh, I don't know - maybe mid-winter? The street demonstrations to force the referendum will probably start in the Fall.
The squeals and shrieks of horror from Brussels, London and DC will be drowned out by the chuckles from Moscow.
"The street demonstrations to force the referendum will probably start in the Fall."
Perhaps these can be combined with French farmers shutting down Paris by clogging it with tractors.
If big, these anti-NATO demonstrations will be severely repressed or 'provoked'.
Remind me what is the point of the EU? Those euroloons have always said that as a group we all have more weight, more gravitas in the world. One small confrontation and they fall apart like a jigsaw in a shaken box. The EU has always been, and always will be an expensive pile of crap. If Putin shows the EU up for what they are, helps to break it up, then I salute Putin.
i bee lieve it
poor honey bees
In fact, the war in Ukraine has its origins in, believe it or not, the honey bee
http://rocksolidpolitics.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/ukraine-bee-war.html
lookin bad for kiev better order in some more mi6 some poles some more rabbi advisors and akademi queens.
nudelman needs to get baking some more jewish apple cakes init
its all fucked up. The «Russians» are trashing us»https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftI
LOL!
I feel sorry foir those Ukie kids. They need to get back on their BMPs/APCs and head for Kiev and take out the oligarchs and Nudelman's friends and fellow dual citizens.
Funny you should say that...
http://newseek.org/articles/2306/397
The leader of the military/political Right Sector movement, Dmitry Yarosh, issues ultimatum to President Poroshenko: You have 48 hours to reform the police (re: illegal detentions, arrests, beatings, searches, combat arms seizures etc.) otherwise we'll withdraw all our forces from the front lines, declare a general mobilization of reserve battalions and start a campaign in Kiev to 'rapidly reform' the Interior Ministry.
Rapid reform of the Interior Ministry.
Reciprocal trade sanctions by Russia and the EU should not last longer than 3 months, as both economies will feel they can’t afford that, according to experts from Denmark’s largest bank, Danske Bank.
http://rt.com/business/180232-eu-soon-lift-sanctions/
I would trade 535+1 Barry for 1 Vlad. Must be nice to live in a country where the leader has Balls.
I go hard like Vladimir Putin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-yw27am0GE
EU countries need to kick out the US military and keep their distance from the DC mob.