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Ferguson Riots Again: Police, Looters Exchange Teargas , Rubber Bullets, Molotov Cocktails: Live Webcast

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UPDATE: Shots fired...



After more than a week of violent confrontations, tensions continues in Ferguson (following the death of Mike Brown - shot at least 6 times, twice in the head). The second night of quasi-martial-law in the Missouri town has once again erupted into riots (the third night in a row) as militarized police response just hours ahead of the midnight curfew. Protesters have looted stores and restaurants (including a McDonalds) and the once again heavily-armed police forces have responded in force with tear-gas and rubber bullets (to which protesters are responding with Molotov cocktails and returning gas canisters). This shows no signs of de-escalation at all as crowds chant "who polices the cops?" CNN reports at least one protester hit by rubber bullets and multiple injuries. Multiple gun shots heard - police: "leave or be arrested."


The police tactical response was triggered, according to a Lieutenant with St Louis city PD, by an attack on the command post with Molotov cocktails...





Live Feed 1:


Live Feed 2:


The images are once again stunning...



Escape from Ferguson...

As The NY Times reports, the autopsy is quite damning...


Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.

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Two examples of police response so far...

"Get the fuck out of here"

and "you're getting mace next time you pass us"


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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:09 | 5107086 holdbuysell
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This was boiling well before the shooting.

The frogs are (regionally) jumping out of the pot.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:13 | 5107098 Skateboarder
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Let me speak clearly on behalf of all human beings with some dignity left: fuck da police.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:16 | 5107113 Keyser
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At some point law and order must be restored... Or do you propose to just let the "humans" protest, loot, pillage and disobey the law? 


Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:22 | 5107147 Seasmoke
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Yes I propose. The police need to be taken down.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:27 | 5107167 MeMadMax
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Billions and Billions of welfare thugs served!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:39 | 5107200 wee-weed up
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police: "leave or be arrested."
Hmmm... I thought during a declared curfew anyone caught violating said curfew was suppossed to be arrested immediately on the spot. What kind of a wussy curfew is this? Next thing you know, they'll be drawing red-lines on the street to be crossed before arresting the curfew breakers. Geez! Grow some balls and take these thugs off the streets!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:39 | 5107231 Richard Chesler
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"I know shit's bad right now with all that starvin' bullshit. And the dust storms. And we runnin' out of French Fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution." - President Camacho.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:46 | 5107263 Oldballplayer
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Furgeson is craving it.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:49 | 5107274 THX 1178
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Fuck the police and fuck the hoodrat gangster thugs. Violent Hivemind vs. Violent Hivemind. Nuff said.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:54 | 5107300 Publicus
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Civil War 2

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:11 | 5107363 Drunk In Church
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I'm tired of cops.  And I'm tired of gangstas.  They can fight each other till their arms fall off.  Bitchez.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:49 | 5107472 Four chan
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no kfc or watermellon stand is safe tonight. what is wrong with these people?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:10 | 5107513 AldousHuxley
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Looters at McDonald's "I'm Loving it"


they are doing it all wrong....burning down their own ghetto is not a good idea. Rich people live elsewhere. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:18 | 5107529 LetThemEatRand
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I get your point, but to these protestors anyone who onws a chain (that McDonald's chain costs $1M and up to franchise) is well to do, and they are lashing out at everyone who has more than them.   Even small store owners who probably make less than they do from government assistance. It is not rational but that's what it is going on.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:37 | 5107561 StychoKiller
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"Rational" done left the building a few daze ago!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:51 | 5107577 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Keyser above says "At some point law and order needs to be returned". Might be more to the point to start with Wall St where billions upon billions of dollars are being lopted from the people, as opposed to the unseemly conduct in Ferguson, where what, a few windows have been broken and a few shops have been looted. Amazing isn't it that the authorities are only geared towards resolving crime of the the lower class. Fucking convenient isn't it ! ! !

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:41 | 5107623 JLee2027
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Good point. True law and order will not return until the bankers are in prison. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:58 | 5107643 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Problem is, I don't think the bankers will go to prison until the civil unrest in Ferguson comes to NYC or Washington DC. Even then, I'm still not sure. The entire system has to collapse for it to be rebuilt but then during the rebuilding how do you keep the sociopaths out? It's interesting to be witness to the unfolding of what may become one of histories most violent uprisings.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:19 | 5107669 gh0atrider
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As the great virtual Canadian investor fonestar once said...


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:05 | 5107698 chumbawamba
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I find it rather odd that riots and looting in a small town of 21,000 can go on this long.  The Watts Riots in Los Angeles last only 7 days (April 11-17, 1965) and were way more serious than the relative shenanigans in Ferguson, Missouri.

"A 119-square-kilometer (46-square-mile) swath of Los Angeles would be
transformed into a combat zone during the ensuing six days." [Wikipedia]

The 1992 Rodney King riots were even more serious and that was quelled in six days (April 29-May 4).

What gives?  I mean I appreciate that the cops aren't resorting to their typical barbarism to quell such events, but why aren't they doing the same in Ferguson?  I've never known cops in modern times to pass over a good opportunity to crack some skulls and kill some niggers (34 dead in Watts Riots, 53 in 1992, not all attributable to the police of course but many were).

Something isn't make sense here.  Especially when we know the Missouri state troopers told the local cops to stand down.  I don't know if this is a good thing or not.  I just know it's unusual for this magnitude of rioting.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:29 | 5107717 Scarlett
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I have a solution!  Print more money and give it to the bankers!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 05:39 | 5107749 Headbanger
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What caliber was Brown shot with?

How could he be shot in the right arm if his hands were up?

If Brown just committed a robbery and threatened to shoot the officer as he resisted arrest, the officer concluded Brown was armed and dangerous.

All shots were to the front of Brown so was he charging at the officer, not running away?

Bottom line is after the robbery and assaulting the  officer plus threatening to shoot him, Brown was seen as very dangerous to the officer.

Need to hear the police recording of this shooting.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:04 | 5107767 negative rates
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Better start hanging some cops or you aint never going to get peace in that town.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:00 | 5107796 Headbanger
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You always were a fucking idiot.

Another "White Guilt" fucktard.

Or are you Black?




Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:50 | 5107910 drdolittle
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@chumbelz: I found that a bit weird too. At first I thought state troopers were doing a better job, not all tactical and tear gassy but walking amongst the people peacefully, defusing the situation. But now it's back to fighting. Was this to be able to say, see what you made us do? We were trying to be nice.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:22 | 5107988 conscious being
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Its about the Maidan protests ... in Kiev. The Kagans made that poor, sucker running Ukraine stand down. No head cracking aloud and he got run out of the country.  Now, if they start cracking heads in Furgeson, they'll look like hypocrites ... again.

When do the snipers that shoot both sides make their appearance??

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:15 | 5107773 negative rates
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Who? We havn't heard much from bitcoin since that knuckler got busted.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:14 | 5107842 25or6to4
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"They are doing it all wrong"..... Nothing ever changes does it?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:55 | 5107486 chumbawamba
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Your blog sucks, bro.  You'll never make a living at it no matter how many times you spam ZH.  Give it up.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:20 | 5107670 gh0atrider
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You should check out fonestar's blog!  It rocks!

I am chumbawamba.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:56 | 5107672 Lore
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ghoatrider: You used to make some worthwhile comments.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:19 | 5107775 negative rates
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You need to have your head examined, Dr. says you are blind in one, and you can't see out the other.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:25 | 5107664 Herodotus
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The final battle nears.  Ferguson shall rise again.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:34 | 5107722 AlaricBalth
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Remember, kids: Officer Friendly is YOUR friend, and you can talk to him ANY time! Be sure to let Officer Friendly know what YOUR friends are up to, as well!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:46 | 5107265 Handful of Dust
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This has to really suck for the people in that neighborhood who actually work for a living ... also seeing their neighborhood stores burned to the ground by Thuggery. Has to suck for them since their options are more limited now then ever before probably.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:47 | 5107464 CrazyCooter
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There is a reason Europes strongest souls bailed about 100 years ago.

The problem now is ... there is no where else to go ...

I wish the best to all the good souls out there. Much unjustice heading all our ways.



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:51 | 5107574 Four chan
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isnt it obvious what happened when the whites bugged out of our ancestral home of africa leaving the violence and ignorance behind and africa is still like that today while the civilized world ended up driving a car around the moon. some people never change, no matter where they are.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:58 | 5107685 Lore
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Lo, it is written, that there were some present at that time who were banksters, and they witnessed the productive capacity and wealth generation and prosperity and thriving of the free people of the world, and they said, "Lo, let us go rape those decent people. Let us debase their currency, their culture and their education, issue their debt at interest and well and truly fuck them up, so all that once was theirs will be ours."  And they made it so, and when the eyes of the dumbed-down people were finally allowed to open, they saw what the banksters had done, and they saw that they were fucked, and they were fucked. And there were those who blamed their neighbor, so that neighbor turned against neighbor, smashing his bus stops, looting his McDonalds, and stealing his stuff. And there were others who blamed cops, cursing them and threatening all manner of violence against them. And some cops, perhaps fearing for their own jobs and families and lives, lost their way. So truth and justice was lost amid the chaos, as brother turned against brother, inflicting needless violence. And the banksters, watching from afar, rubbed their hands together and saw that it was good.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:25 | 5107714 max2205
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So bullish!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:27 | 5107716 Quus Ant
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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:46 | 5107728 Tall Tom
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This is done as a DIRECT RESPONSE to you...


How to Fabricate a High Power Rocket as an RPG Payload Delivery System...


The Motor has a 'K' Impulse and is 128 times as powerful as a Estes 'D" Engine. (Since a 'D' Engine will loft One Pound 100 feet vertically you can be assured that a 'K' Engine will be able to loft One Pound about 12,000 feet (~2,5 Miles) vertically. You can calculate Range with this data and Maximum Range will be achieved at launching 49o from the vertical.).  


Part 1


NOTE...DO NOT USE A OPEN FLAME TO DO THE NEXT TRICKS. This is so easy that it can be done in your kitchen...


Lab Grade KNO3 is available at your local Home DepotTM as Grant's Stump RemoverTM. You can purchase Cane Sugar at any local Grocery Store.


Part 2...


Part 3


Forget Part 4 as you are not really interested in recovering your Rocket and just cap the PVC with Cement and a PVC Cap.


Next make certain that your Center of Gravity is one half Caliber (the Diameter of your Rocket is One Caliber) in front of the Center of Pressure.


Here is a Technical Manual that instrcts the method of calculating the Center of Pressure.


And determining the Center of Gravity is quite simple as that is the Balance Point (where all Torques add to Zero) is the Center Of Gravity.


Of course this is dynamic as fuel is expelled in Flight but as long as the CG is ahead of the CP one will acheive stable Flight.


Rocketry is actually very simple and I have many designs for Rockets that are quite functional.


Plus there is Rocket Simulator, a Computer Program, which will give you the characteristics of flight before any construction is ever undertaken.


You have no clue about what I know, Lore. None whatsoever...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 05:50 | 5107750 Lore
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Tall Tom: There are lots of rocketry forums and groups where you can pursue your interest constructively. It really does nothing for me. Edit: I guess you mean to respond to my previous 'action figure' comment, and if so, then fine, you seem to know what you're talking about. But if you're going to post comments to the effect that you plan to make weapons that hurt people, don't be surprised if you attract unwanted attention from local authorities. Rgds

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 05:57 | 5107762 Headbanger
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I prefer building a nice trebuchet myself cause they're moar environmentally friendly than all those nasty chemicals for a rocket.

Plus they're very quiet and don't light up your position when fired and have very little recoil too.

And they can be beautifully engraved and finished for added resale value!

Of course there's also my giant crossbow project but recoil is a bit of a problem.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:22 | 5109182 flyingcaveman
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Nice try NSA.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:46 | 5108090 conscious being
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Four chan, the horror, oh the horrorlit. Reference

oh the irony. Imagine civilization leads you to believe they rode a car around The Moon!

Adjust your superiority complex and look into it. Check out any or all of the film shot for all Lunar missions. Except you can't. NASA managed to lose all of it. Lois Lerners computer that can't be found has company.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:56 | 5107586 BringOnTheAsteroid
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"seeing their neighborhood stores burned to the ground ".

While people are fixated on the neighborhood stores in Ferguson being burnt to the ground, congress and their army of cronies are doing a damn fine job of burning the entire country to the ground. It's just that Ferguson is more of a spectacle and mind, the Wall St thugs are dressed so nicely it's hard to stay mad at them.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:31 | 5107868 piliage
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Exactly. Good ol' racial hate a couple months before the congressional election. How wonderful for Obama and his clown car administration to take the eye of his shit foreign policy and fucked economy. Bread and circuses, MSM race huckster style.

Al Sharpton had a wonderful quote that shoplifting was not a crime. Holy fucksticks...

Obviously the answer is to print more money for the congress to spend on their highly successful programmes for black inner city youth that have seen the destruction of the black family. Just be sure to vote in 90 days everyone...

Idiocracy is now becoming documentary footage.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:44 | 5107570 California Nigh...
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This has to really suck 


Yeah, bigtime sucks. And their property values will be cut in half.


What I don't get is why the cops don't shoot the looters.

That would be my instinctive response.

Of course, if they did shoot a few looters, riots might break out in several other cities.

But at SOME point, the nation has to put an end to this rioting bullshit.

Now I can see what the tanks and APCs are all about.

We have millions of hooligans in the USA, and not all are black. 

If ever we face a real crisis, all hell will break loose because there has been a breakdown of discipline.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:59 | 5107589 BringOnTheAsteroid
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"What I don't get is why the cops don't shoot the looters."


You mean go into the board rooms of Goldmam Sachs and JP Morgan and unleash a volley of bullets. I suspect they'd be jailed and sentenced to death faster than Michael Browns body could go cold.

Come to grips with who the real looters are.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:15 | 5107604 Son of Loki
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"There's never been a better time then now to buy a cozy cottage in Fergy at these  ...  Fire-Sale prices!"



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:01 | 5107648 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Huh, the one down vote proves Blankfein or Dimon read ZH.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:01 | 5107819 barroter
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Good idea...


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:23 | 5108021 piliage
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Jeeze, c'mon. They CAN'T do that, who would possibly print the money for the congress to buy more minority/illegal immigrant/religious conservative/low information votes?

Congress, using our future unearned dollars loaned to us by the Chinese to make the worlds of Huxley and Zamyatin a reality. I smell the Soma already...


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:52 | 5107635 random999
Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:48 | 5107275 LetThemEatRand
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"Grow some balls and take these thugs off the streets"

Yes, by all means.  Let's have full on martial law.  There are thugs and stuff.  Can't have innocent people able to go outside if there are thugs.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:00 | 5107308 wee-weed up
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Once the thugs are taken off the streets...
The curfew will be lifted...
Then the innocent people will be able to go outside.
You obviously don't live in Ferguson.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:07 | 5107331 LetThemEatRand
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That's what they said in Boston when they were "looking for" the unarmed guy in the boat.   So trade a little freedom for security, wee-weed up?  Impose martial law because there are some thugs?  The police are able to arrest people who are throwing flaming objects without imposing martial law.  It is telling that guys like you change their tune so easily when you're scared by a few angry black dudes.  Exactly what they are counting on.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:08 | 5107356 kliguy38
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I know they scare me to death and I will sacrifice all of my freedoms to protect me from those bad boyz.........signed chicken little

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:19 | 5107392 Harbanger
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No one will protect you when it matters except yourself. ...signed the truth.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:25 | 5107415 LetThemEatRand
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Because the police are too busy shooting tear gas at crowds carrying signs and not actually arresting the bad guys.  Because they are more interested in conditioning us to martial law because there are bad guys amongst us, and they want there to be bad guys so we are all afraid.  You can't handle the truth.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:39 | 5107427 john39
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Yeah but the constitution is so fucking inconvenient. I just know that after all the scary black thugs are taken care, the police will go back to following the constitution, because they serve us citizens, right?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:45 | 5107459 Socratic Dog
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One man's thug s another man's freedom fighter.

Right now, they are the closest the USSR has.  I applaud them.  But they ain't invited for dinner.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:34 | 5107433 Harbanger
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Maybe I'm sick but I hope one of those those white liberals turns around in fear and gets a tear gas canister right in the ass.  Full unobstructed penetration right over the drooping low cut jeans.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:35 | 5107437 LetThemEatRand
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You could at least have the decency to change your icon before you make homoerotic statements like that.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:50 | 5107473 CrazyCooter
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This is awkward.

<looks around>

Am I gay if I thought his comment was funny?



Full Disclosure: This whole situation is just fucked up.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:52 | 5107479 LetThemEatRand
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FWIW, you only need to look around before telling black or Hispanic jokes.  Gays are not so easily spotted.  Ask Harbanger.  And I will repeat that there's not anything wrong with that.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:14 | 5107521 CrazyCooter
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Not sure why you got all those down votes.

Personally, I don't give a pinch of coon shit what adults do with their lives (or in their bedrooms). I just want the government to deliver my mail, defend my shores, and leave me the hell alone.

I find this whole PoundHashishFerguson thing disturbing. No one gives a fuck if people protest during the day. I don't think that has been at issue the whole time. It is the looters/rioters at night that everyone focuses on which should NOT be the story.

This is coming to everyones town ... free shit army invasion ...



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:28 | 5107542 LetThemEatRand
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I would only add three things:  The looter/rioters need to be arrested for destroying private property owned by people who had nothing to do with the injustice they feel.  The remainder of the people should not be under martial law.  The police should not have tanks (and they don't need them).

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:52 | 5107578 CrazyCooter
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Check. I am curious if any property owners have had to discharge a weapon or shoot a vandal/criminal/etc. Maybe standing out front for 8 hours (before working the whole next day) works for now.

Check (after shit settles down as messy as this is)

Check (that is why we have state National Guard).



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:49 | 5107627 zhandax
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I  suspect there are two far differing storylines here.   The late night crew seems to be the FSA rioting for their free shit and the other are regular people who are protesting that the militarized force in front of them are not something allowed by US law as it has been taught the last 250 years.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:21 | 5107612 Son of Loki
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<< This is coming to everyones town ... free shit army invasion ... >>


Already has:


Black ‘Mobs’ Attack White Patrons Outside Wis. State Fair


True, the article is from 2011 but my friends up there said the next year was almost as bad. Almost no police to guard the families leaving the Fair after dark.  Moar uncontrolled perps every day as the nation sinks into slimey Thugdom.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:49 | 5107630 Terminus C
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Go with friends and carry a gun.

Your friends would be left the fuck alone.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:42 | 5107454 Implied Violins
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I'm actually wondering if some of those 'bad guys' aren't agent provocateurs, paid to throw rocks and molotovs to justify the clampdown...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:42 | 5107624 JLee2027
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Maybe, but the heavy cop presence is just making it worse. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:07 | 5107653 Bad Attitude
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Or, maybe they are provocateurs trying to provoke a response by the police to feed the narative that the police are racist. Stiring up racial division is one of Dear Leader's favorite tactics.

Don't forget, there are many critical Senate races in November, and Dear Leader would be really butt hurt if he lost control of the Senate.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:04 | 5107825 free_lunch
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You mean like the ones that got exposed in this short video?


Remember, the local police had to stand down and watch the looting.. They were forbidden to attack the initial looters that started the looting...


Neh, too far fetched..


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:37 | 5108064 piliage
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And the US created a completely ignorant and dependent underclass that is currently incapable of taking care of themselves without the aid of government handouts. Its a hell-of-a catch 22, let the race hucksters run wild in Fergusson, or let the fascists/statists keep control and continue to shred the constitution and create Idiocracy for real.

All in time for the mid-term election cycle, how convenient...

I guess the moral of the story is that even stupid thugs have constitutional rights, however, so does a cop who shot someone. Nobody is a winner in this shitshow, except the corrupt congress and MSM who use will use it for votes and ratings. [spit]

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:19 | 5107389 wee-weed up
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you're scared by a few angry black dudes.
Tell that to the small business owners in Ferguson who've had their establishments trashed and looted.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:19 | 5107394 snr-moment
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Sounds like a great opportuntiy for the tea party and libertarians to make new friends.  Unless you don't mind your kids being shot 6 times.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:17 | 5107526 CrazyCooter
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Care to expand that logical argument?

I am not sure what the hell you are saying ... except "tea party" and "libertarian".



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:54 | 5107883 snr-moment
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Logical.  What do tea partiers, libertarians and the like most definitely share?  Preference for a government not so obtrusive that it feels it can shoot people with no consequences.


You think Obama came back for any other reason?

Heck, the commercials write themselves.

"The Government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have"

Your welcome.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:57 | 5107937 snr-moment
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You could call it the TVT party.  Joke.  That part was a joke.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:21 | 5107396 LetThemEatRand
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If the police were not so busy rolling around in their tanks threatening people carrying signs, they may have stopped that.   I suppose you would have said "thank you sir, may I have another" if the cops busted down your door in boston when they were looking for the pressure cooker guy?  Lots of people did, so it's cool.  Just don't pretend you care about freedom.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:22 | 5107404 wee-weed up
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Let me know when you move to Ferguson.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:28 | 5107420 LetThemEatRand
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No way.  I'm too scared of black guys.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:40 | 5107449 Harbanger
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You are.  You need to relax your anus.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:45 | 5107461 LetThemEatRand
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You could at least have the decency to change your icon before you make homoerotic statements like that.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:11 | 5107600 El Vaquero
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Man, there are some control freak statists on here.  You are responsible for you and yours.  The police are not.


If you have a store in Ferguson, show up with a rifle and you won't get looted.  The police can choose to just sit there eating donuts or shooting steroids or whatever it is they do for entertainment and watch while your store gets looted, burnt or otherwise vandalized.  Their response to this whole thing has been full-fucking-retard, and you should not even think about depending on them for the safety of yourself or your shit if you are in Ferguson. 


Free people can go outside whenever the fuck they want.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:10 | 5107362 Harbanger
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Lola.  You'd be the first to call 911 when your neighbors knock at your door.  Nothing worse than a loser lawyer who can't get herself arrested.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:16 | 5107379 LetThemEatRand
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And freedom loving ad hominem pays an unwelcome visit.  Let me try to explain to the simple minded.  Calling the police if one is threatened (and wanting there to be police as opposed to all of us having a shoot out), is not the same as advocating for martial law.   

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:22 | 5107406 Harbanger
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Can I martial law your mouth before I martial art your vagina?  I'm in that kind of mood tonight.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:30 | 5107425 LetThemEatRand
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You could at least have the decency to change your icon before you make homoerotic statements like that.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:37 | 5107440 Harbanger
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Whatever, your always making excuses.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:47 | 5107460 LetThemEatRand
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"Whatever."  Translation:  I have no idea what to say.

"Your always making excuses."  Translation:  "You're calling me out for being gay."  There's nothing wrong with that, Harbanger.  You're not even using your real name.  Just fly the rainbow flag my man.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:52 | 5107466 Harbanger
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What your name is not Lola?  It's Janet bitch, tell the world, .

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:01 | 5107493 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck it.  I'm going to go light a candle and put on a Village People 8-track and call myself Janet while putting on lipstick.  For you.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:03 | 5107499 Harbanger
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Thank you lovie.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:10 | 5107512 LetThemEatRand
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See you in your log cabin.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:31 | 5107538 Harbanger
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Log cabin?  Stop looking at my ass lola, it was made for pooping and you're the girl.  I think we took up enough of this thread arguing over frigidness.  Open up and let it go babe, I still love you lola.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:56 | 5107814 oudinot
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harbanger: Your crudeness matches your illiteracy.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:04 | 5107591 Renewable Life
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God I'm so fucking depressed by these fucking "law and order" bullshit clowns posting on ZH right now!!
If this was the fucking Bundy Ranch were this shit was happening and there was an all out civil war raging, non of this we "need more tanks and guns for the police" and "arrest and shoot the thugs" bullshit would be anywhere to be seen!!

You fucking conditioned, clueless sheep, need to get to bed and get back to dreaming about Obama and Bush military glories on the battlefields of Iraq and Afganistan while your Country becomes a tyrannical police state!! Maybe some of you can wrap yourselves in the MO state flag and march around saluting everyone too!
Fuckn sickening!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:08 | 5107832 greatbeard
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My first +1000.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:12 | 5107769 negative rates
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It's a law of #'s pal, with a few more city mistakes the big boys are going run thin and leave the scrapper cops in control elsewhere, you know what happens to scrapper armys and cops? They flea when the going gets tough and leave their ammo behind. I would not want to own a business in a city or have a debt to pay with said business, can you say CRASH!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:29 | 5107174 TeamDepends
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Anybody else smellin' the mother of all reality shows here?  Martial Law USA...... on tonights episode a pistol packin' granny dares to grow her own tomatoes, and when the EPA shows up, she pumps 'em full of lead!!!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:30 | 5107182 BlindMonkey
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You must be a reality show producer. Great concept.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:31 | 5107720 max2205
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Mo should legalize Weed immediately

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:04 | 5107595 El Crusty
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that would easily become the highest rated tv program of all time.
i cant lie- i would totally watch it, maybe even participate

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:29 | 5107175 Skateboarder
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You need law (natural & unspoken is my ideal choice) in order to maintain 'homeostasis' in a society. When fraud is law, and unwarranted militarized police violence becomes the norm, you are not living in a society where obeying the law means anything other than if you don't want to lose a bunch of money or get bullied around and tossed in the can, or worse, hurt or killed, you follow "the law" out of fear and compulsion, not honor and privilege.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:45 | 5107255 NoPension
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The thug cops are just testing their toys on urban blacks. When that's no more fun, who's next? Let's see if the amped up pussy police stick around when the lead comes in the other direction. This will be VERY educational.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:01 | 5107327 boattrash
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NoPension, Since you asked, they plan to just take it out in random fashion and call it a Drill at the Mall.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:24 | 5107409 NoPension
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Real terrorists would set a few sharpshooters, 2-500 yards out, around the mall. Then send a team member in to pop off a couple rounds. Pop,pop,pop, into a wall or ceiling, and walk out.
Then wait about a half hour. 3-4 mobile command centers. Hundreds of civvies running around . Packs of swat team members from all the local forces, including the dog catcher swat team , and the forest ranger swat team, postal service swat team, airport swat team, local social security office swat team. Well you get the point.
With all the high value targets in place, start picking off from outside. Think that would change future tactics?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:50 | 5107471 Socratic Dog
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Losing wars doesn't seem to teach the military much.  Why would you expect the blackshirts to learn?

Last successful significant US military operation was the Normandy invasion.  I read that somewhere recently, maybe here.  Or maybe on HuffPost.  Not much difference.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:25 | 5107545 CrazyCooter
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"Winning" is a very subjective point and it really depends on many assumptions.

On one hand, the goal posts of war have simply moved; it used to be the complete annihilation of the enemy to the point they capitulated. Now war is a humanitarian objective, droning distant people to prosperity (as long as they sell oil in dollars).

Pretty soon, I think the goal post will move back to its traditional location and war will simply be about killing the enemy until they capitulate. It won't happen until the women send the men to war, but that feels close these days.



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:20 | 5107610 El Crusty
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also if you're using maltov coctails, you dont throw the first volley into the crowd you are trying to hit- you try to hit the area behind and to the sides so they have nowhere to run except forward. then you start lobbing them into the crowd.

maltov coctails for dummies:

1- use wine bottles. the glass breaks much easier when it hits the ground

2- insert half of the rag into the bottle. the tail left over you tie in a knot around the neck so it wont come out when thrown.

3- you may add styrofoam to gasoline to act as a gelling agent, closely resembles military grade napalm and will burn for 10 minutes instead of 30 seconds.

4- you can make a slingshot with bicycle inner tubes and lob the bottles 200+ yards.

5- you might want to practice throwing bottles filled with water first before doing the real thing

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:06 | 5107347 Freddie
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Hope & Chains.  White liberals and black voted for this twice.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:49 | 5107278 mt paul
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man did you fall on  your head

one too many times....


you make way too much sence


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:23 | 5107539 Yen Cross
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 That's got to be one of the most forthwrite and eloquent pieces of Non-Fiction, I've EVER had the privilage to read Skateboarder...

  You're an OLD Soul my Friend!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:52 | 5107579 Skateboarder
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Every time I play the guitar, I am reminded how joyous this bodily experience is. To be able to hear, love, and appreciate sound... ah, what wisdom one can earn!

Uninhibited expression is our purpose (other than mining gold for the Anunaki, of course), and once upon a time there were people who prized that kind of stuff. In this age, it's all packaged, plastic shit, in the lives and minds of men. Shit: that's a good word you can use to describe this age.

Old you say? Surely. I hope this is my final round in this game. Not in a hurry to reach the end, but I look forward to it.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:32 | 5107190 Bingo Hammer
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the "humans"

Soooo can you expand on what you mean by that for us?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:01 | 5107328 kchrisc
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"At some point law and order must be restored"

The point the past week has been and is that the gun and badge thugs, police, only represent the law as a treasonous instrument of plunder and murder.

An American, not US subject.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:04 | 5107339 Buck Johnson
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No, I propose that the "humans" I guess you don't consider them Human even when their are protestors who aren't looting but thats okay or you are a racists piece of shit.  Be allowed to loot, pillage and disobey the law.  Because the only way that this problem of the police that has been going on around the country killing and raping and whatever and getting off or a light sentence can be fixed.  The community remember the community have lost the trust of the police and when that happens no matter what they do or say they won't listen or do what they want.  And they are doubling down and attacking again and the rioters and protestors and everybody else is fighting back.  


The problem with the US is that they think that protest and revolution is non-violent, it's not.  Many think that we don't care what those people think, their a bunch of N****r's and that they can't change anything.  They can because they are getting tired of their males and females being killed, abused by the police.  In many ways it's ethnic cleansing light.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:41 | 5107450 goldsansstandard
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The government is ruled by men not by law.

The mmen and wemen of power have ignored key clauses of the supreme law for many decades.

The prohibition against emitting bills of credit has been ignored since 1862. Lincoln arrested the legitimate Supreme Court to keep i that way. He wanted his counterfeit greenbacks.

Prohibition was repealed. The repeal has been ignored for unpopular substances. The drug war is unlawful.

They could legitimize this by ammendment but they never have.

Lawlessness breeds lawlessness, especially those most damaged , not to mention murdered and tortured with impunity and no accountability.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:29 | 5107787 MFL8240
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Change the rubber bullets to hollow points and calm will return.. This is an example of 50 years of liberal appeasement and the "Free" generation. One minor point that cannot be overlooked is what these large corporations and bankers have done with the help of people like Obama to destroy the workforce to grow profits from the sweat of orientals to line tier greedy pockets as government assisted them with handouts of taxpayer money with no hope of any future for the American people. Time this rage is turned at Washington and the a criminal bankers and Federal Reserve.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:49 | 5107805 free_lunch
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Earlier on ZH: 

" But the shocker happened when county Police told Fox 2 News that its officers were at the Ferguson Market earlier when looters showed up, but were ordered to “Stand down” by Missouri State Highway Patrol incident commanders at the scene and basically withdrew and allowed the looters to have their way with the store. "

Why this stand down? 

Now watch this short video filmed @ Spanish protests:  Police Provocateurs During Spanish Austerity Protests

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:19 | 5107134 Muddy1
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This notion that if I had a son he would be Michael is absolutely correct.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:45 | 5107247 LetThemEatRand
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Funny how Obama's shameless attempt to appeal to the minority vote (what he said) means more to you than what he does (gives away our future to bankers, continues to militarize police, does not prosecute a single oligarch responsible for the crash, "tortures some folks," and so forth).  There's a reason these guys say meaningless shit.  Idiots listen.


Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:39 | 5107228 Schlomo Bergstein
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The cops are just trying to restore the civilization that these "youthful teens" destroy all over the world. These "youths" are a plague that must be removed from civilized society.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:42 | 5107241 Skateboarder
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The ones that get stupid all day on drugs don't prize knowledge and wisdom and arts and family? You want 'em all gone?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:57 | 5107306 downwiththebanks
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Meet King Herod!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:57 | 5107309 kchrisc
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"fuck da police."

I am more inclined toward "Guillotine the police," but then that's me.

An American, not US subject.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:07 | 5107504 thamnosma
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"fuck da police"

you are a true idiot.  Should the police simply leave the area to the rioters, no matter how many innocent people are robbed, beaten or killed?  Or how many stores are looted and burned.  Are you fucking insane?  Please, move there and live with it instead of spewing that juvenile nonsense from your couch.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:45 | 5107626 El Vaquero
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Grab your sack and man the fuck up.  The police are not responsible for your safety.  If you haven't been paying attention, the protesters have been clamped down on harder than the looters.  What are the police doing there anyway?  Oh, that's right, they're fucking up. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 04:09 | 5107703 Eyjafjallajökull
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From the experience of Tunis, Libya, Syria and lately Ukraine, now would be the time when unidentified snipers shoot 50 policemen and 50 people from the crowd - if we go by CIA textbook, that is. Only this time it would be wiser to user different weapons for different targets, unlike Kiev.

Both sides would become highly motivated to pursure their goals and a school of thought of color revolutions has come home to roost...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 06:07 | 5107768 negative rates
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Cause the most the whole bunch are itchin for just that, look what silly law makers and their games produced.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:30 | 5107181 Crabshacker
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I'm listening to the "St. Louis County Police Dispatch - 1st Pct." scanner audio feed.

You can listen using your computer by going to you can also listen using an Android phone or tablet using the "Scanner Radio" Android app (you can download it from the Google Play Store by going to ).

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:00 | 5107322 Whoa Dammit
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This live feed on Reddit has good updates as well--scanner reports &  twitter posts from reporters.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:08 | 5107599 williambanzai7
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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 03:05 | 5107652 BringOnTheAsteroid
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EXXXXXXXXXX . . . . . . . .ACTLY

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:13 | 5107603 algol_dog
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Guess nobody has to get up and go to work in the morning.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:54 | 5107639 El Vaquero
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Fuck the hamster wheel.  It's for the benefit of bankers anyway.  I'm not allowed to go off and be a mostly self sufficient hermit because of property taxes.  Is that liberty?  No.  Throw in usury and bankers, and you have something even more insidious.  The idea of work hard and get ahead is fucking dead.  It is now a matter of figuring out how to do things with less technology and surviving until we must do with less technology.  The surviving in our current system is the tough part, because we cannot time things properly.  My hat is tipped to any of the motherfuckers on the streets of Ferguson who are part of the FSA, but are also growing their own food, learning how to survive if EBT goes down.  If there are any such people, anyway.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 07:42 | 5107888 Bossman1967
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ok well now the national guard there to protect the looters and crimals. what has happened to our country Obama was elected to prove we arnt a RARIST country and he has thrown that right out the window. you know whit back brown yellow whatever a criminal is a criminal whether it's in a uniform or gang colors. I've seen the crips and bloods out there. in my opinion just tell the good people to get out and put a fence up let the cameras roll and charge 20 pay per view let em burn there town down fucking animals

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:12 | 5107087 One And Only
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Holder said to be performing autopsy of Mike Brown personally. Obama to supervise. Mike brown may or may not be illegimate child of Obama, facial recognition being performed.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:13 | 5107103 fonzannoon
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big meeting between Christie, McCain and Jaime Foxx and the celebrity world happening. They seem very concerned. Very tensus...



Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:18 | 5107129 Ms. Erable
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Only one question needs to be answered by the autopsy to get closer to the truth: fatal gunshot entrance wounds - front or back? Seems pretty straightforward until you get the race-baiters involved.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:23 | 5107144 Shad_ow
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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:59 | 5107313 Godisanhftbot
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hearing a 5lb jar of k-y was ordered. Wonder what for?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:53 | 5108116 piliage
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They will reanimate Mike Brown into RoboCrat, a new all-powerful bionic community activist to ensure Obamacare is implemented fully and all illegal immigrants currently in the USA without ID are given the international community sanctioned rights to vote in US elections.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:10 | 5107088 wee-weed up
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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:19 | 5107125 Spitzer
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"if i had a son, he would look like ...

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:32 | 5107196 Ms. Erable
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...a side of beef on a slab in the morgue.

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