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When Venn Diagrams Go Horribly Wrong

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Or maybe just one of those rare occasions when the truth slips through?

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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:18 | 5104781 negative rates
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Who made that up? Who's idea was that??

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:27 | 5104804 y3maxx
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.....How Washington is explaining its Citizens switch into the new US Govt Bonds.....Safer, best returns, but used by its War Machine to kill millions of people.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:29 | 5104813 Pladizow
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The press has always found these qualities to be mutually exclusive.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:47 | 5104846 Matt
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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:04 | 5104874 CheapBastard
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Gee, you mean that one semester course in "Business Ethics" at Harvard doesn't work?


Imagine that!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:26 | 5105345 All Risk No Reward
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Doesn't that class teach that ethics are optional for people who don't want to maximize profits?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:10 | 5105518 Richard Chesler
Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:16 | 5106230 knukles
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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:22 | 5106469 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Guilty, underpaid intern who was then terminated wanted the truth to get out? Most people ignore the the truth even if it slapped them in the face.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:44 | 5106505 tenpanhandle
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Diagram is misleading - there is no overlap.  Isn't Thomson Reuters half of the new silver fix (read manipulation).

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:45 | 5104983 CPL
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Naw, by accident they'll end up killing everyone.  Just takes a single mistake in the most unlikely of places for the wrong reasons.  Which was done already.

Right now, everyone is just waiting their turn. 

Eventually though they'll have no choice but to admit the mistake because it'll get so bad, so ugly, so out of control...only then will they come clean as to what they've done.  But by then it'll just be too late.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:55 | 5105025 Seasmoke
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I guess you have never run numbers on the street. They will lie to you until the very end. No matter how many chances you give them to come clean. No matter they know , you know, that they know. They will lie to the very end. Hoping for a miracle. (And I have seen a few unbelievable hail Mary's come thru, but it usually ends in tears)

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 21:21 | 5106660 acetinker
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Agree with Seasmoke, no guilt will ever be acknowledged, never mind admitted.  Once the shit truly hits the fan, those who are left won't be much concerned with how it happened, but with how to go on.

Whether or not we want to admit it, we're all in this alone- from the wonderful mind of Lily Tomlin.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:29 | 5104814 philipat
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Probably TR and CME. The left bubble is The BB Paper Cartel which is now totally in control of the PM markets, the right bubble is the physical PM markets..........Thank you TR and CME

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:45 | 5104996 Kirk2NCC1701
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All joking aside... What the author SHOULD have done (with these terms), is to put the big circle inside the little circle of "Our Values".

IOW:  "Everything we do is integrated into our values."

As it is, it is accidentally or deliberately off-balance -- as Tyler and others note.  Assuming the author was not being too "truthy" or sarcastic, the "Our Values" part seems like a fashionable thing to add - and is present on almost all "Death by Power-Point" presentations of this kind these days.  It's turned into an obligatory, fashionable balloon to add by the MBA sheep.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:38 | 5105145 Terminus C
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Its not a Venn Diagram, its just a graphic that, with the right cropping, looks like a Venn Diagram.

Funny anyway... because it is true (when interpreted as a Venn Diagram).

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 14:44 | 5105644 29.5
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your balls are interpreted as a venn diagram

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:07 | 5107075 acetinker
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Brother, I can't quite decide if you're an idiot or an asshole.  Captain fucking Kirk is your hero?  I honestly don't know what our values are because there are so many stupid fuckers (metrosexuals) like yourself that we don't have any actual values.

What do you believe in?  Do you believe in yourself?  That would be a good start.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:17 | 5105086 barre-de-rire
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- me


Sun, 08/17/2014 - 16:27 | 5105949 negative rates
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You are mechanically not sound, and perhaps in trouble.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 18:52 | 5106396 barre-de-rire
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read george orwell, mofo guntard american.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:53 | 5105460 junction
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Correct the diagram by replacing OUR VALUES with OBAMA

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 18:11 | 5106275 Jumbotron
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What I see is Thomson Reuters virus (Our Values) latching onto the host and about to send its mRNA to reprogram the host to its values.  Which are decidely the opposite of the host.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:19 | 5104785 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Simply priceless a MASTERcard moment.....offered to you by the puppetmasters that be.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:22 | 5104788 Renewable Life
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You could replace the words in the orange ball with:

Big Government
Tax Burden
Police and Military State
Corporate Domination

And it also works:)

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:21 | 5104797 AdvancingTime
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HaHA    well said!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:21 | 5104798 giggler321
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Having one bigger than the other is perfectly normal - I assure you.  At least in todays world and they got the words in the right sides to.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:43 | 5104839 max2205
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The little one is farther away. It just looks smaller


Or the big one is closer and just looks bigger.




Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:29 | 5104949 giggler321
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That's a Dr.Who trick.  Cough, cough.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:33 | 5106493 BurningFuld
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Also works with fish and penises.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 20:29 | 5106614 BringOnTheAsteroid
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You are correct, in which case there is no overlap at all.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:23 | 5104799 Colonel Klink
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Hahaha, yep their values barely overlap real ones.  Theirs are lies, graft, and self interest.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:23 | 5104802 eatthebanksters
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Values, what values?  Buddy fucking is the new norm.  If its expedient then it is good! Integrity has no place in our vocabulary anymore even though TPTB say we need to have confidence in them and trust them.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:30 | 5104817 NoWayJose
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The loss of cultural values since the mid-60's has effectively condemned the US. Pockets still exist, but the government, courts, and big banks are destroying everything outside those pockets.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:25 | 5104806 Steroid
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The orange on the left is Classical Capitalism!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:06 | 5105057 Steroid
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The ratio of arrows almost verifies the diagram.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:18 | 5105088 Kprime
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ur supposed to take those 3d glasses off when you leave the theater.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:38 | 5105111 Tall Tom
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If Classical Capitalism is not about Trust, Partnership, Innovation and Performance then I certainly do not know what is...


It seems that most here, from the ratio of the arrows on Steroid's post, do not value Classical Capitalism on Zerohedge.


(Or they cannot read...Or they have a fucking hangover from last night's drunk since it is Sunday Morning???)

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:40 | 5105151 Terminus C
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I think it is the latter... the reading bit.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:28 | 5104808 seabiscuit
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In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

George Orwell


Paging Edwin Bernays.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:16 | 5104906 Dapper Dan
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And this,


Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed,

Everything else is just public relations.

George Orwell


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 00:07 | 5107344 TrulyBelieving
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What is the truth? Truth is is these folks deceiving us have a different set of values. What thieves value is money,(that's why they are theives). A theif's value is anything is permissible to gain wealth.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:27 | 5104809 Smegley Wanxalot
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Surprised they overlap at all.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:43 | 5104990 Reaper
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There is trust and partnership among looters.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:40 | 5105156 Tall Tom
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There is no honor amongst thieves. They will end up shredding themselves when the pool of victims diminshes.


Any "trust" will vanish at the end.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:07 | 5105063 oldschool
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That overlap's called "puffery" in marketing and law, and "lying" by normal folk.  Or maybe it just represents their "value" of "performance".

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:31 | 5104818 sunny
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Simply precious.  The only bad part is the wrong heads will roll.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:32 | 5104819 americanspirit
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When worlds collide.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:32 | 5104820 kito
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and yet tyler frequently cites reuters articles as "news" and "fact".......go figure..........

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:40 | 5104834 Oldwood
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That's how propaganda works. The mix of fact and fiction so as to make the two indistinguishable. Meanwhile we argue about what is "real" in this surreal world.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:40 | 5104835 denverdolomte
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And sometimes readers don't understand the meaning of that purpose to deduce their own "reasoning" and "ideas"....go figure.....

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:43 | 5105164 Tall Tom
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No kito. They just report what Reuters' articles have reported.


In fact they are EXPOSING that Reuters' values have little to do with trust IN THIS ARTICLE.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:34 | 5104824 yogibear
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The hippie generation of the 1960's became more crooked than the ones they were protesting against.

The hippies figured if you can't beat then become more fradulent and clever than the crooks of the 1960's.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:42 | 5104837 Oldwood
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They understood the power and appeal of hope and change and the readily available supply of drugs.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:45 | 5104843 Bossman1967
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the hippies said if you cant beat then just out do them. boy have they but at 46 my generation gonna straighten it out.?!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:42 | 5105160 Terminus C
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Each generation tries to out do the previous...

We are double fucked.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:49 | 5105430 Professorlocknload
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Hippie was a Bernaysian creation designed to move merchandise. It did just that.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:52 | 5104851 New_Meat
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Replace the Radical pose for the Radical end, or sompin' like dat.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 21:15 | 5106712 Cobra
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That little pig is in demand right now... You need to hide that primitive beast, Ned!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:12 | 5104892 SofaPapa
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The people who find their way into positions of power in whatever generation are the same.  It's a self-selection process, and these people are always, by definition, those who are convinced that if everyone else will just do what "I think is the right thing", then the world will be better.  They cannot conceive of simply letting people alone to do what each individual sees as appropriate for his/her own circumstances.  Most of the hippie generation are good people who mind their own business, just as most people in every generation before and after them are.  But the bad apples are self-selected into the top.  It's up to the rest of us (the vast majority) to figure out how to stop providing them our sustenance with which they are playing and screwing things up for everyone!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:20 | 5105095 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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SoftPapa, you got it right. I think you've defined the definiton of 'sociopath' in describing what is needed to be 'in the top' of the group. I've always wondered what would happen to the world if every one of those that joins a military, DIDN'T join. What would the world be like? No wars? And if that was what 'the hippies' really were truly talking about,,, 'make love, not war'. Hmmm,,,  Yet I've seen over and over again many young people join the military for economic reasons. Which personally I think is major bad karma. They join for other reasons, too, but IF there wasn't ANY military, anywhere,,,what would happen?

    Hey, it ain't MY problem. I've got my own route. I've always liked these words:  "The only way to have peace, is to be peaceful" Stephan Gaskin

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:16 | 5105291 samsara
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SP You got it right. George W. Wasn't a hippie during the 60's, Nor was Greg Marmalard from Animal house. THOSE were the guys that went on from every generation to join the CFR and GS/JPM. Not the members of Delta House, nor the Peace, Love, dove. Hippies.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:13 | 5105279 Zeta Reticuli
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I'm part of that generation. All the anti-war hippies grew up to vote for Bush, clinton, Obama and all the warmongers. The old hippies are not against war. They are just against them being in it and getting their ass shot off.

Bring back the draft. No exceptions. No deferments. That will put a rapid end to all the needless American jingoist invasions all over the planet.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:39 | 5104831 SoDamnMad
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Renewable Life

I'll have 100,000 Tee shirts with your words ready in the morning. 

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:48 | 5104847 shovelhead
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Is that Reuters extolling their news creation values?

Too funny.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:55 | 5104858 Wild Theories
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so truthy

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 10:59 | 5104864 lynnybee
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scam. extricate yourselves, save yourselves with sound money & trust no one; the gov't sole purpose is to live off you, suck off you, swindle from you so that they can live another day.  (& they are very good at it, too.  don't fall for it, people.)   

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:10 | 5105260 samsara
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Lynne, How you doing? Long time no posts.

Stay strong Lynny.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:18 | 5105711 lynnybee
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thank you, so nice.  thrift & sound money saving have returned to my life, the things my dad taught me when i was a kid.... in 1913 a gang of criminal bankers took over the country with the express purpose of looting the country ....they are in the process of swindling what little is left from innocent & unsuspecting citizens & we let them.  god help us all when the rest of the people find out that the gold & the silver are the real money & they have been scammed with paper money.   (good thoughts to all) 

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:50 | 5105448 blunderdog
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I'd be a lot happier with the gummit if it was sucking me off on a regular basis.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:00 | 5104869 IridiumRebel
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Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:10 | 5104888 BullyBearish
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Just scanned the Sunday paper (we don't pay for it but it is delivered every Sunday, no doubt in an attempt to preserve advertising revenue) to see how I'm supposed to think about the issues of the day.  Incredible propaganda: "Sea World is good because Navy pilots used to target pods of Orcas". 

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:15 | 5104901 SofaPapa
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What newspaper!?  That's a great line to demonstrate the insanity.  I'd love to see it.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 20:21 | 5106593 forwardho
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First Pages | DEATH AT SEAWORLD: Shamu and the Dark ...

Royal Canadian fighter pilots used to bomb orcas during practice runs and, in 1960, private ... Even as recently as 1973, U.S. Navy diving manuals warned that these ... In the second half of the 20th Century, killer whales were targeted by the .... These whales live in extremely stable and large groups, or pods, marked by ...

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:13 | 5104898 lunaticfringe
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I had a vein diagram once. Mapped all of my bulging, worthless veins including my saphenous.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:20 | 5104919 BullyBearish
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San Diego Union Tribune

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:23 | 5104932 wstrub
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No wonder people are pumped up with antidepressants.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:27 | 5104941 q99x2
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I get it. That's a funny.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:33 | 5104959 lunaticfringe
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Not much gets by you. Razor sharp.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:38 | 5104976 Last of the Mid...
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That pretty much says it all. What dumbass thought that up and had no clue?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:43 | 5104987 Atomizer
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Pull out a dollar bill. Read what it says regarding a debt vehicle. Signed by the US Treasury. 

The system is 1913 fucked. Everyone knows this. Time to recoin without the middle man Federal Reserve. Ignore the other mutts, which offer alternative monetary solutions. 

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:01 | 5105042 wisefool
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Agreed. I think you can now pay your taxes with bitcoins in Germany. And it will eventually happen here in the U.S.A. When this happens I plan on learning how to do computer work. The life's goal will then be to purchase colocation space near an IRS hub, and set up therein a turbotax server farm working the tax code next to a bitcoin mining server farm working the crypto code. 

Sounds silly, but everybody deserves to have a dream.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:23 | 5105101 giggler321
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Most blokes normally involve a chick but if yours is a server - I'm cool like accepting gay people.  Let me introduce my friend Bender, he's a robot and probably knows all about IRS hubs.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:30 | 5105121 wisefool
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Ohh I like age appropriate chicks. I wonder if Lois Learner will be impressed by all this if I can pull it off?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 02:36 | 5107620 StychoKiller
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Oh no, don't get me mixed up in yer scams (unless some swag ends up where I can find it!)

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:20 | 5105096 22winmag
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Back the new treasury notes with tulip bulbs (as long as the vaults are open for public inspection).

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 11:43 | 5104994 I Write Code
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Venn, who dat?  LOL

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:13 | 5105077 Max_Khazar
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Vesica piscis of anchovy.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:24 | 5105103 Atomizer
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Sunday humor. I was enjoying the beautiful outside weather & posted above.  Went back inside and Mrs. Atomizer was playing this video. Got a bit teary. Thought I would share.

Jasmine Flower (???)-Chinese Traditional Music


We are polar opposites in music tastes, this is me.. Hahaha.

Primus - Too Many Puppies


With all the bullshit going on, hope this made your day. I love my wife!


Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:11 | 5105267 edifice
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Primus Sucks!!! :)

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:52 | 5105454 Inthemix96
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With all the bullshit going on, hope this made your day.  I love my wife!

It did Atomizer, and thanks for that, it just goes to show no matter how convoluted or bad it gets out there, there is still us, humans, normal folk who like you, just like me, love their wifes.

We wont go down without the fight will we?

Not a chance.

Enjoy her mate, the lifes we live are precious, no matter who, where, when and how we are.


Sun, 08/17/2014 - 20:07 | 5106561 the misanthrope
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I don't say much, mostly a mute.... but thanks for sharing.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 12:44 | 5105168 silverer
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Yes, the circles belong stacked.  But lets do something that works wih the chart: Left large circle "Government Health Care System", right smaller circle: "Health Care Received".  Starting to look more accurate yet?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:11 | 5105266 joego1
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If they graph were "our money" vs "our customers money" then they would overlap perfectly.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:22 | 5105329 Fuku Ben
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Too much overlap

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 13:55 | 5105471 novictim
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"Democracy" Bubble. 

----   No overlap.

That is your Venn Diagram. 

Ya, most folks are sooo passive and brainwashed that they don't even react to this image.  Yet it is the single most important "System Problem" that underlies the loss of American Democracy.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 14:14 | 5105540 VyseLegendaire
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Damn thats gold. 

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:04 | 5105694 danpos
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The Venn diagram looks good to me.  Their values are:





Sun, 08/17/2014 - 15:12 | 5105712 Peter Pan
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Advertising chief asks staff to come up with concept for how damaging drugs are.

First staff member comes back with a piece of paper with two circles drawn on it. He points to the large circle and says this is the size of your brain before drugs and then points to the smaller circle and says this is how small it beomes with the use of drugs.

The seond one comes in with a piece of paper with two larger and two smller circles and explains that this is the before and after effect on testicles.

The thrd one comes in with a small and large circle oncept. The chief says that the first staff member has lready come up with that concept and how it affects the brain. The staff member says that his is different. The chief asks him what his two circles mean,

The employee points to the smaller circle and says, " this is the size of your anus before you go to jail."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 01:52 | 5107576 Tall Tom
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So there is a Brian Size to Anus Size inverse proportionality. Yeah. That is understandable.


I guess that is why those whom lack Brains speak out of thier anus. Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 18:14 | 5106282 Equality 7-25-1
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Quick review:

Old School: Everybody gets paid comensurate to their contribution.

New School: Eva fu fo hissef, bich

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 18:32 | 5106339 radiobomb
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also in maths, the size of the circle in a venn diagram denotes its numerical/proportional scale. here we can  see the circle representing their values is quite small.  So it's a double fuck-up [overlap & proportions].  Who got paid to do that ? and approved it ? shockingly shit.  they should let WBanzai7 come up with a better logo.........

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 18:57 | 5106408 barre-de-rire
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america is the worst  penisless country for men.


not a fucking single mother fucking man can stand against EBT system, all putting his tong in .gov ass.


you are the most pathetic country  EVER on the world wide mankind ever produced.


 you buy gun but you only kill your own toe on disocvery channel. you fucking pathetic.

 plastic ar15 gun... pointless...


ppl electiong nigger as president deserve total nuking.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 08:39 | 5108069 Ban KKiller
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Solution much, stooge?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 19:38 | 5106500 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Maybe the rank and file expressing their disgust is at play here?

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 20:05 | 5106557 forwardho
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Don't know about that whole interface portion...

Kinda like a "When worlds collide" type thing... 

Or better still the annihilation point of matter and anti-matter.

Values???? We aint got no stinking values.

Oh My!

Sun, 08/17/2014 - 23:24 | 5107155 Solio
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How did they get on the same page?!

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!