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Chinese Troops 'Invade' 25Km Into India, "This Is Chinese Territory, Go Back"
Update: who says media disinformation only takes place in Ukraine; apparently the same takes placed between India and China. Bloomberg cites an Indian army spokesman S.D. Goswami who denies Chinese entered territory in Ladakh, a mountainous area in northern India. "No incursion or encroachment of Indian territory by China has taken place along the India-China border,” Goswami says in statement. "There are areas along the border where India and China have differing perception” of line of actual control. “Due to both sides undertaking patrolling up to their respective.
Almost as if someone in the media world is eager to launch a war...
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Fifteen months ago we reported China's stealth invasion of India's Ladakh region, and now, as PTI reports, Chinese troops are reported to have entered deep into Indian territory in Burtse area in Ladakh where they had pitched their tents last year. Indian troops spotted Chinese personnel 25 to 30 km from the perceived Line of Actual Control (LAC). PLA personnel carried flags reading "this is Chinese territory, go back" in their hands and they refused to move after being confronted by India's quick response team.
Chinese troops are reported to have entered 25 to 30 km deep into Indian territory in Burtse area in Ladakh where they had pitched their tents last year that had led to a tense three-week standoff. Official sources said on Monday a patrol of Indian troops noticed the People's Liberation Army (PLA) personnel on Sunday while moving from their base towards the higher 'New Patrol base' post in Burtse area of North Ladakh in Jammu and Kashmir. The area is at an altitude of 17,000 feet.
The sources said the troops after walking barely 1.5 km from their base spotted the Chinese personnel in Indian territory 25 to 30 km from the perceived Line of Actual Control (LAC).
...noticed the PLA personnel still sitting on the ground with flags reading "this is Chinese territory, go back" in their hands. A Quick Reaction Team had also accompanied the Indian patrol but nothing could be achieved as Chinese refused to budge from their position, the sources said, adding finally Indian troops returned to their base and informed their higher ups. Udhampur-based Army Spokesperson Col S D Goswami denied that any such incident had taken place but said there was no commonly delineated LAC between India and China which led to transgressions.
"There are areas along the border where India and China have differing perception of LAC. Due to both sides undertaking patrolling upto their respective perception of the LAC, transgressions do occur. However, no incursion or encroachment of Indian Territory by China has taken place along the India-China border," the spokesperson said in response to an email query.
He said India regularly takes up any transgression with the Chinese side through established mechanisms such as flag meetings, border personnel meetings and normal diplomatic channels like Working Mechanism on Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs. At these meetings, the issues are resolved through the provisions of various agreements between India and China, he added.
This area was in news last year due to 21-day stand off between India and Chinese troops which ended after four flag meetings between the two sides. Chinese PLA had pitched five tents in the area and claimed that it was a part of their territory.
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We are sure this is just another geopolitical storm in a teacup - well stocks are up - as China flexes its muscles in a different (non-maritime) direction once again.
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How's the new BRICS Banks coming along now ?LOL
It's an understandable enough mistake to make in this globalised 'no frontiers' world. These Marines did the same thing at the Ukraine border once:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZP3fYurqU
I would be worried if I lived in or near Asia. Don't both these countries have nukes....? W W III
What do you guys make of all this Russia business? Do you think we should invade?
THIS IS CHINA ... damnit!
details, details.
give the chinese an inch and they will take the country.
They took Tibet, and oppressed that line of Buddhism. Even broke the cycle of Lamas. The remaining sanctuary for the Tibetan style of Buddhism lies in the Northern tip of India. Himachal Pradesh is home to many famous monasteries, including the one where the Dalai and many other Lamas go to train.
It has always been China's goal to invade the Northern tip of India, to completely seal the fate of peace with an iron boot.
This is nothing.
The Mexican Worker Army has penetrated all the way to the northern US border.
CHINA = PREDATOR
How do you say "Manifest Destiny" in Mandarin?
Owebama
MSG on your curry slurpee?
Dammit Knux - you took the curry [comment] right out of my roti!
US = Apex Predator
Most of northern states in India once were separate kingdoms or parts of Nepal including himanchal Pradesh now claimed by India.
China liberated Tibet from barbaric serfdom, a form of slavery worse than that in America. I am happy the Dalai Lama and his criminal cohorts were evicted. Obviously the Tibetans like the Chinese far better than their criminal masters as otherwise the CIA plotted uprising wouldn't have been so effortless crushed.
Yeah, I'm also glad that the PLA "oppressed that line of Buddhism", if it could be called "Buddhism" in the first place.
I hope one day someone will take the Vatican, and "oppress" that line of Catholicism. LOL.
To hell with the slave owners (incl. Dalai Lama) who had committed crime against humanity under false religious pretenses.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.
Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
To truly stamp out Tibetan Buddhism, China would also have to eliminate much of the population of Mongolia, which as far as I know is the only (independent) nation where the religious majority is Tibetan Buddhist. And as much as China may like to possess Mongolia again, as long as Russia is still a going concern that isn't going to happen. So to say northern India is the only sanctuary left is not quite accurate...
This is a typical “intelligent” western analysis which is lack of current information on China. Chinese government has long given up the idea of eliminating religions. The current social problems largely result from a lack of religion. Since CCP has changed their goal from communism to “socialism with Chinese characteristics” (capitalism in essence, LOL), it is no longer conflicts with religion. A popular religion will definitely help stabilizing the system and improve the morality of the populace. China has built and restored many Buddhist temples in the recent years. It is the people who have seen everything and believe in nothing other than money.
80% of Mongolians are in China (Inner Mongolia) with a population of 8-10 million. They also believe in Tibet Buddhism. The current Chinese leadership is China centric instead of Han centric, so they are composed many ethnic groups. This group has absolute no interest of getting into any ethnical conflict.
Its all about controlling the river system in India. China wants to damn the Ganges.
"China wants to damn the Ganges. "
Hmm, I thought they were scientific materialists - atheists.
Echoes of 1962.
Then, india lost due to:
1) Treachery, they were following suicidal orders in the face of Chinese efforts at placation (at least publicly). Now where have we heard that plot before?
2) Indian soldier were equipped with .303 Lee Enfields (WWII leftovers). The Chinese had Automatics and machine guns, were hardened to do high altitude fighting
3) For some strange reason, the Indian Army allowed the Chinese an almost free hand in the North East, allowing China to take to critical 33rd parallel marker (Yessssss......that is what this game is all about)....
Sadly, I'd say the power balance is essentially unchanged, because we now have vipers in our nest.
Very interesting geopolitical moves all around....the set up for a major conflagaration is moving apace...
I think I'd nailed it 2.5 years ago...
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/axis-of-evil-doing/
we are all chinamens now
Confucius say Chinaman is Joo of the Orient.
If the Chinese did this last year, then left, why didn't India fortify the border? At least put up some barbwire in the disputed area. Is barbwire, and maybe a spy camera or two on some fence posts, really that expensive/difficult?
Why should China pay attention to the border if India obviously makes no effort?
Most of Ladakh is dirt roads and inhospitable as parts of mars. India don't give a shit and would not mind if china took it. It's just china is shit scared as India.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.
Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
30 kilometers is approx 18 miles.. thats no small amount of real-estate.
And yet its nearly 100% useless land and at 17000ft. for what a ski resort? whats the point China? this stupidity is akin to their capitol investing prowess...
They want to make a Yeti Reserve Park.
The Free Yeti Liberation Army will fight for a Homeland.
Water.
Ski resort, golf course, national park, wild life reserve, tourist towns, being closer to India, a major trading partner for China :)
why are you always pimping your blog and patting yourself on the back?
I appreciate his perspective..
^^^
Those aren't Chinese soldiers, those are typical uber aggressive real estate developers.
Patting himself on the back and pimping his blog?.....first, second and third place for that go to Oh Reginald Middleton
LOL
I'd give those accolades to George Washington
Someone has to.
ORI, don't be offended by this, but India doesn't have the cojones to take on China. Maybe, Pakistan, not China. I say maybe Pakistan, because the moment there is some action on the western front, China is going to start some action on the eastern front and take Arunachal Pradesh.
They walk into Indian territory on a regular basis, set up camps and order the Indian Army to leave. Where are the Indian soldiers on the border to prevent these incursions. Are they asleep, or are they spineless and gutless? Don't you have something called the ITBP that was specifically set up to defend the border with China? Do they flee when they see the Chinese troops approaching? It could very well be a problem with logistics and leadership, but repeated incursions without a telling response talks a lot about their guts and India's guts. One of the sides is pissing their pants when they see the other, and it sure ain't China.
It is over 50 years since your independence, but the country is still caught in a rut. The folks continue to blame the 1000 year foreign rule for their woes. Yes, it played a major part, but you have had 50 years to weed out some of the after effects, but only a few things have changed. The poors are getting poorer and the rich richer, while the non-existent middle class is enamored by cine-stars, silly musicals, god-like stature afforded to movie stars, effing fairness cream and cricket, which you suck in any way--king in your backyard; minnows elsewhere. Now, if you ask the Indian populace some pointed questions, then, you quickly become their enemy. It astounds me that Indians cannot take feedback/constructive criticism well. They are so defensive about it.
The country is going to Balkanize soon, and it will most probably begin with China taking the Northeast and part of the North.
Now, watch me float in red.
Sisyphus, I agree with most of what you say. We were done a good one by the brits, I'll say that.
Only colonized country that wholesale is switching it's language to English. Furiously. It took 400 years, but they really did break the Indian back.
And nations cannot play catch-up quickly, they lumber.
So, yes.....as a nation, we act castrated. Look at last Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh. A walking Robot....
tch.....
But tides can turn dramatically too, these are such times.
We should all just calm down...everywhere. We are being played like marionettes, even here on ZH.
>> And nations cannot play catch-up quickly, they lumber.
Bullshit.
Countries can make incredible jumps in ability / technology when they have the will.
Are you somehow equating the "victory" in the Russo-Japanese War to Japan becoming a force to be reckoned with? Please.
If Russia had cared enough about the territory being fought over, they would have sent their much larger Atlantic fleet south and around the Cape of Good Hope and then eastward to rip Japan a new one. The time spent to do just that was considered too long and risky. Russia had bigger concerns than the gnat on its east coast.
Uchtdorf,
The reference, I believe is about the Technological/Societal Modernization Japan made when they opened their Ports to Global Trade in the 1860s when the Shogunate dissolved.
40-odd Years from a technological backwater (forced by the Warlords and Shogunate to prevent Western/Christian Colonization observed in CHN) to becoming a Regional Power taking on skirmishes and a Major Battle with a World Power.
Don't forget, the RUS-JPN War of 1904-5 involved ground troops as well. The Baltic Fleet was pretty much decimated in the conflict - I don't think the Russians could have dispatched their Atlantic Fleet and make themselves vunerable to the Western European Navies - especially GBR's(who recruited JPN to face off RUS' expansion in asia to begin with).
BTW - all it took was one confrontational Pass of the Line; and the Fleet was shelled to shreds. One JPN Tactical Officer allegedly became a Monk after seeing the carnage of bodies while boarding the Flag to accept the terms of Surrender.
Too Risky. In an "Away" Game. With Vladivostok(sp?) pretty much blocked. They sank a fracking Ship in Vlad, for crying out loud. Death Trap with a good chance of losing a healthy chunk of the Fleet, while having Vlad probably assaulted from the Korean Peninsula and China as well. All while exposing the Western Flank. Don't think it would have happened.
Only 40 Years. They did spend around and/or over 50% of their GDP into their Military during that time. With many European Powers taking over parts of China (JPN participated as well, for some reason beyond my comprehension - I can only hope that they treated CHN better), that was expected.
Reconstruction/Modernization Post WWII JPN? 30 years. If you consider the ability to host the Olympics as a gage, then NINETEEN.
I'm surprised JPN and RUS haven't buried the hatchet years ago. The takeover of the Islands and the USA Puppet strings do control JPN's Foreign Policy...
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.
Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
I agree to some extent that the Brits did you in; especially Churchill didn't like you folks:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-da...
http://richardlangworth.com/rascals-rogues-freebooters-churchill-india
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21
Some say, inadequate response during the Bengal famine was his doing; some disagree. We will never know the truth.
Having said that, the country has been destroyed on the inside by the politicians, whom you all call leaders. If there is something totally removed from being a leader, it is an Indian politician. Secondly, the acceptance of corruption as a norm rather than an "exception" has eaten into the flesh of the country. Finally, a somnolent populace has destroyed the skeleton that is India. You all had potential, but all's been laid to waste.
You are a close to 2 billion people country. How many world class sportsmen has the country produced; how many world class products has the country produced; how many world class doctors, engineers, scientists have the country produced? Yes, some have been, but all of them flourished in the west. Finally, when it comes to software services, Indians are everywhere. However, how many world class developers, software systems, applications, OS, Open source products has the country produced--Hotmail doesn't count. Now, compare that to China, and in certain spheres, they are way ahead of you. And both countries were in the gutters 30, 40, 50 years back, but they have been able to leapfrog you in the last decades and you have been left standing.
Sorry, it might sound overly critical, but that's the truth.
Not in the least critical. You are not far off the mark I would say.
Only one thing the people outside India don't understand is that their religion is their undoing. It's more than multiple gods, caste system, exotic rituals, underneath all the facade of civilisation, they are a people who are most regressive in thoughts and are incapable of governing themselves. It's not limited to politics.
Contrary to what many inside and outside India don't realise is the ability of the Indians to trivialise everything, politics, economics, people, cultures.
The legacy of Ghandi.
The Indians will make snowballs until the Chinese get bored and leave.
Gandhi...
I think you’ve got some great points. The difference between India and China lies mainly in their national spirits. UK took India in the first attempt (albeit slowly). However, they failed every time they tried with China even when UK reached its world supremacy in the late 1900s. There were several joint international and UN invasions on China and its former colonies and proven fruitless. China rose from the malaises stronger and more confident. China remains the only major country not occupied by European powers outside of Europe itself. If I have to bet, I will bet on China regardless of their social system.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.
Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
Not true. India did not allow china Freehand in north east. Those north east parts of India were neither parts of India nor china. They had their own distinct languages, cultures not much different than Nepal on the east and Myanmar in the south. India allowed herself a freehand after British left, I included those countries, kingdoms in the north east into their union by force.
Almost every state in India has their own distinct language and culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_spea...
What you state about the Northeast is somewhat true, not entirely.
India never considered Northeast a "priority". It was like an elephant's tail--tiny compared to the main body; hence, it wasn't a problem if it "rotted" away. Hence, China almost conquered almost the half of Northeast during the 62 war.
I was not implying the whole truth or that north east is low prioritised, just how India annexed parts of north east into the union of India by force and default ( came with British raj). It was not for India to china a freehand.
What china did in '62 is no different than what India had been doing before and since, forcefully occupying those parts of the country. The north east parts of India are rich in oil, tea, coals, woods, and may even have oil. So makes sense for china to claim those parts.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.
Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.
Chinese Military Sabotage India’s State Owned Telco BSNL’s Base Station
Nah, nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Bomb them to rubble, bounce the rubble, then make it glow...
Oh, I see now.
You just accidentally took a dump on the wrong part of the sidewalk. So you picked it up and moved it to here.
As Cheborneck's friend once said, "Good thing we no step in it."
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I think you should invade, MDB, with a plentiful supply of those Herbalife products you've filled your garage with. You know, breaking new ground and all that.
BTW, you've been slacking as far as your Accredited Times site goes. No new articles in over nine months? Tsk tsk, don't tell me there's a dearth of accredited writers.
"We" think you should invade.
Sure. Who you got for us to invade?
@MDB: "Do you think we should invade?"
Why don't you ask the Deli Llama? His answer is bound to be... kosher.
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MillionDollarBonus_ post above was originally "What do you guys make of all this Russia business? Do you think we should invade?"
Instant nominee for Stupid Question Of The Day award, but perhaps even too rash for his own comfort.
Yep, great time to invade Canada while everyone is looking the other way. They'll never even notice if you're careful to say "aboot" instead of "about".
Not only should we invade Russia, but we should establish our new colonies around Starbucks franchises.
Nothing illustrates a beaten and broken population more than a line of people who will pay $5.00 for a cup of coffee.
Total domination.
Confucius recommends Russian invaders bring warm clothing with them when they invade Russia, especially during the winter months. It's rumoured to be even colder than Canada.
Putin, Hu Jintao 100%
Obama 0%
Dont ever bet against USA ... i know MSM portrays Obama as weak and Putin as this bear wrestling fearless man .. but that is just ass media doing what they do best spreading disinformation ... Obama did not get where he is sitting by being weak ... never forget that ... you cant get a simple job if you are weak let alone the biggest office in the land
WTF?
Sorry, Arius, but you're no MDB.
cant keep me from trying :)
Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.. are all puppets. Chosen and annointed to the White House. They don't make decisions, just announce that they've been made via the teleprompter.
Arius, the high functioning retard is chief is only an installed sock puppet...mkay?
I think he got there mainly because of the color of his skin and and the prospect of endlessly rechargable ebt cards. Betcha it was a landslide in Ferguson, Mo.
USA is impotent under the leadership of this kid. He is too inexperienced and full of himself. USA as a country is highly respectable but you have to get rid of this guy.
Just my two cents.
UN borders aren't sacrosanct, they are neocolonial fiction presented as fact.
The Chinese state is directed by a bunch of meglomaniacal thugs. The Indian state is directed by a bunch of megalomaniacal thugs. Every so-called mediator or voice of peace state is directed by a bunch of megalomanical thugs.
We have a nice soup of no one is right.
Thugs or not, they both have to import a bunch of shit just so that they can feed their respective populaces. I won't say whether it will be against each other, but China and India will have to go to war over these issues in the future.
I don't accept your premise that the Chinese & Indian states as they are currently configured are necessary to "feed their respective populaces". If anything, these states are obstacles to voluntary trade.
In 20 years, it's just as likely India & China are comprised of hundreds of autonomous regions as the current UNSC monopoly board configuration.
Accept it or not, they have water issues and peak oil is here. There will be war in that region for resources.
http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/more-peo...
This event makes no sense. Sounds very much like the western propaganda machine on the roll..
Unfortunately the Chinese can be just as bullying as the USSA are. I also do not understand what they expect to gain from such confrontational policy/actions. They are doing the same or even worst in what they call the South China Sea. Some of the Islands they claim are like 50 km from internationally recognized Indonesia territory and over a thousand kilometers form the closest Chinese coast…
I think that the Chinese would gain a lot more through diplomacy and bilateral agreements rather than bullying their neighbors, especially when they are a nuclear power…
Fuck China. They are tied to our hip. They like the world to think they aren't another USSA lapdog, but it's complete bullshit. They buy all of our paper so we don't have to stop buying their piece of china shit products. Same zebra, same stripes. They are war mongers because that is how we raised them.
dont be so sure about that ... think about how far they have come the last 30 years and probably iit is still worth to them playing along for awhile ... the question is when the music stops ... but as that genius from Citigroup once said as long as it plays you got to dance, and you might call chinese still monkeys ... be careful though when the music stops... chinamen might have occupied all chairs ...
BRICS --> BRicS?
Where are the grown ups, to reel in the "overly exuberant" Chinese generals?
BRICS = PRICS ?
here is the new acronym for you Goldman Sachs .... sounds about right to me ... suprised none thought of this one before ...
BRICS will be all about yellow bricks, AYE ?-)
Is it a coincidence, same day China enters India, Pakistan goes to meet separatist leaders in Kashmir....hmmmm.
India scraps Pakistan talks over envoy’s meeting with Kashmir separatists
Read more at: http://www.livemint.com/Politics/TyVAH7GUAZRDI0Q0JWT9YJ/India-calls-off-25-August-secretary-level-talks-with-Pakista.html?utm_source=copy
just raising a bit the heat on the frog ... not too much though ... balanced
If china continues / india does doodoo it'll be BRCS
Noted intelligence community insider Steve Pieczenik said a number of years ago that fomenting war between india and china would be "easy" and a likely scenario for western intelligence. VOILA.
Ah, the old tried & proven DIVIDE & CONQUER. A perennial favorite of the Aristocracy, at least since the Middle Ages.
Sheeple don't have the sophistication to play "The Game within the Game", aka "Strategic Steering", and the Psy Op Mind Games (Mind Fucks) used on "Hostile Autocrats" (Stalin, Hitler, Saddam Hussein).
Dow rallies on new War new high
It's not really a war. These conflicts happen every week in a way. It's all about the water rights which now are all on the Indian side but China wants to build a dam there and divert all the water to China.
For the rest, they wouldn't care less for that piece of land.
China knows they can take without asking. The docile Indians will put up with anything. Just ask the Pakistanis. Pakistan has routine terrorist attacks and assassinates Indian officials.
If this escalates, 'THIS" would definitely be classified as possible 'population reduction.'
Seems another false flag.....
reportedly ISIS was holding a sign in the background prodding a shift from the BRICS bank to the new ISIS commodity trading operation.
this needs more love. probably the funniest thing I've read on here. yes I'm being *that* guy, commenting on a post to show appreciation without adding anything substantive.
Come on, just a misunderstanding. These guys are part of the new alliance, or haven't you heard?
Everybody start shooting at everybody; the markets are counting on you!
However new PM in India now, may get a different reaction?
Interesting move to say the least.
I recently spent time in Dali, China. It was an Olympic training facility in the western mountains. I was told the recently constructed airport was about to be closed down and the airfield was to be converted to a military airbase. I guess they've closed it. That is sad. Old Town is beautiful and the sunsets over the mountain are spectacular.
Hi there, is Dali worthy of a visit? Someone recommended me to go there but it seems to have a high altitude. I have some high blood pressure. If it is good place to go, I may try next time when I go there. Can I get there by train easily from Beijing?
I'm not sure about the altitude so check a good map.
The town is awesome. Old town is for tourist and generally has a strong mixture of Europeans and Aussies.
I spent some time in the mountains and stayed in a village near the top of a mountain. Very kind and genreous people.
There is a university there with lots of kids wanting to engage english speakers.
There is a train from Kumming and a bus. Unless you like buses, take the train and save a bunch of time.
I'm told the airport is no longer open for commecial air flights.
The lake in Dali allows no motor boats. The only motorized boat I saw was a state run tourist thing.
The road system is excellent. We had a four wheel vehicle and went way up into the mountains.
It was near the end of rice season and farmers were drying the rice on the roads. Scenic views are abundant.
Old town has several types of restaurants - there is Hot Pot (don't eat it - it is tourist food), Bejing style, and Hunan style.
Some western flair. Make sure to go to the Walmart. it is in a 10 - 12 story building and takes up the first three stories.
First time I saw an escalator for a grocery cart.
Thanks for the info.
Old town Dali is a popular tourist town for Chinese (read: crowded) but is worth the visit for bike riding around the lake and into the surrounding mountains. Very scenic! New town Dali is just where you get off the bus....typical gray and dingy Chinese city. From Beijing.....not easy.....a 48-hour train ride to Kunming for starters. I recommend flying there, then head up by bus to Dali and Tiger Leaping Gorge. It's the best part of China, IMHO.
I recall my Dad saying decades ago that WW3 would start in India.
They should really concentrate on getting some more toilets first, then starting WW3.
Both sides - just to be clear.
They don't need toilets, they poop where their children play. That's their home advantage; any invading army will succumb to disease from the horrifically unsanitary conditions.
People: Relax - until Lurch Kerry intervenes, there is nothing to see here.
thats okay just replace the 'i' in BRICS with 'Iran' - the acronym stays strong
Just another theater so that both leaders can step in to resolve with much fanfare as well as additional deals etc. Won't ever amount to anything. Don't forget the cabal still has its teeth deep in India.
In have an Inchindia. Get a bankster to jump.
Meh. China can just sit back and wait until Pakistan and India decide to start throwing their surplus populations at each other. Maybe supply both sides with weapons, then later act as the peacemaker.
When fraud is the status quo, possession is the law.
The Chinese invented "paper money", they understand this all too well.
Indian cowards will do nothing. Land of coward.
Rubbish magnum, have you never heard of The little big horn, Custers last stand.....oh,wait.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/pakistan/khan.htm
The first true nuclear exchange will be in this region. It's just a matter of time.
Actually, they are worse than cowards. If you give them an inch, they allow you take a full metre.
Pakistan has made 11 incursions recently, several terrorist attacks over the years but Indian response is NOTHING.
They believe Pakistan is a like a mosquito who keeps biting and making noise but not much. With China, it is the bite of a tiger. With both together, it spells disaster. No wonder Modi had to go to Bhutan and Nepal to get them on his side.
Meh.....what's 25 kilometers amongst 2.5 billion friends?
http://www.mountain-minions.com/2012_08_01_archive.html
At least five people were killed, another 27 shot in weekend violence in Chicago.
But wait the Chicago stats say crime is getting lower. The mayor encourages outsiders to come to the city to spend money, Chicago is safe he says.
I am losing interest in this web site!!!!!
Infiltrated to make it stupid?
I'm starting to think the Chinese generals gather in a circle, sit down on the floor and play spin the bottle. Then crack open a fortune cookie to see what to do.
China comprises 56 nations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_minorities_in_China
These ethnic communities feed into the Central Committee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China
From that Central Committee, 9 are chosen to lead the country (7 in the Polituro and 2 secret Zionists).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo_Standing_Committee_of_the_Communist_Party_of_China
Tyler get some new clothes
Could be Redshield rattling Modi's chain.
It's likely a ruse to try and get the US to reposition its strategic assets from the east to the west, so China can focus on expanding its empire in the south china sea toward the Filipines and more readily handle the Senkaku island dispute.
The other plausible explanation is for resources in the region, or of course both goals could be an aim.
Does this mean there is a chink in India's armor?
Bazinga!
Riving space.
off topic, but just sayin'...though we know they dont have more than China...
"Russia is taking steps to ensure that it protects itself from any future dollar or euro sanctions. Moscow boasts the world’s 5th biggest foreign exchange reserves and the 6th largest gold reserves. In total, the assets amount to over $1.5 trillion.
While the West is continuing to try and punish Russia via economic sanctions, the response of the Russian Central Bank has been to diversify away from the euro and dollar – and to buy up more gold.As the geopolitical situation in Ukraine deteriorates, Russia is moving to protect itself from currency risks associated with the euro and the greenback.
In the first half of 2014, Russia’s Central Bank reduced its foreign currency reserves by 2.5 percent. “Due to the worsening geopolitical situation, the Central Bank actively redistributed foreign exchange reserves, replacing US Treasury bonds with gold,” Alfa Bank’s chief economist, Natalya Orlova, told Kommersant.
Over the summer, reserves were added at the highest rate since the end of 2009. In June, Russia’s Central Bank added 54 tons of gold, which catapulted Russia ahead of China in terms of total gold, according to IMF data.
In the last decade, Russia has become the world’s top gold buyer, adding more than 600 tons to its vaults.Other countries are also actively adding gold. In the last six months, Kazakhstan’s Central Bank increased its gold investment from 12 tons to 155.8 tons.
Conversely, developed countries such as the US, Germany, Italy, France, and Spain are keeping gold reserves at a stasis. Germany sold 2.9 tons of gold reserves from the Bundesbank but still remains the world’s # 2 holder of gold, after the USA."
http://rt.com/business/180588-russia-central-bank-gold/
gold needs to be backed with lead, my friend.
yes, backed with lead AND packed with tungsten. Germany gold 2nd to US gold holdings? I bet a few in the bundsbank want that statement backed up.
Nicely written piece except it is immediately unclear whether this story is just an updated reference to 16 months ago.
You have to follow the India.com link to understand this is present tense!
Only if your reading comphension skills are limited and you missed the bolded link that says "Fifteen months ago."
Sheesh.
What can you expect from a Putin worshipper...
This is bullish for Indian real estate prices.
Only when priced in Yuan.
Bullish!!!
In Keynesian terms, war is the biggest broken window possible.
US is to blame for that too. And CIA. And Obama. And the communist EU.
I can see nothing other than this is a BULLISH SIGN.....I MEAN...FUCK....
AS IN...WE'RE ALL FUCKED
MONEYS ALL FUCKED
PEOPLE ARE FUCKED
THE PLANET IS FUCKED...
WE MIGHT AS WELL GO OUT ALL PAPER MILLIONAIRES...LIKE FUCKIN IT-LEE WAS
BRICS alliance didn't last long.
Assuming that the reports about this invasion are correct of course.
Why isn't Senile-ator McCain over there demanding US intervention?
Smooth move China - bringing guns to a currency war
Good thing Obama is planning to give the Chinese a foothold in the West to pay off the debt.
Based on history we have to take the risk of a conflict between China and India over Ladakh seriously. In looking for the causes, we of course should ask: Whose interests would it serve?
China fought India over Ladakh back in 1962, in territory claimed by both sides. The background was India's support for the Tibetan rebellion, which we now know was also a CIA project. The immediate cause was that China had built a highway through the high desert connecting Tibet and Xinjiang, which they regarded as essential to their national defense. India didn't even know about the highway until it was finished but when they found out they began a process of trying to force China out.
Sino-Indian friendship was one of the bedrocks of Indian Primier Nehru's foreign policy, and had been central to China's policy as well. After several years of positioning and posturing, India initiated armed conflict which China had carefully prepared for and decisively won.
This victory cost China (and the Soviet bloc) dearly in geo-strategic terms, severely damaging the effort to build a Nonaligned Movement that could resist the Anglo/American Empire independ of Soviet control and precipitating the Sino-Soviet Split. The Chinese leadership evidently considered that the risks they faced of US/Indian intervention in Tibet and the importance of the Tibet-Xinjiang highway made this action necessary.
I remember reading then that the Soviet political leadership was deeply upset for geo-strategic reasons with China's decisively defeating India and said so publicly, while the Soviet military leadership agreed that China's actions were right and necessary.
The situation today seems eerily reminiscent. US support for insurgency or color revolutions in Tibet and Xinjiang is in play again, and China certainly has good reason to feel alarmed as Obama "pivots toward Asia". India, still deeply entangled with the British economic empire, cruelly unequal and facing a low-level rural communist rebellion throughout much of its territory, is the shakiest member of the BRICS coalition. Thus, peace and good relations between China and India is clearly fragile. For China, Russia and the BRICS project therefore a new conflict over Ladakh would be a serious setback.
The result of an India/China border war could be similar to the outcome of the 1962 war: serious damage to a coalition forming to resist the Empire. The instigators will no doubt turn out to be those who desire that result. Hopefully this time around, if this conflict grows into a war it at least won't lead to a fateful repeat of China's break with Russia.