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Ferguson Curfew Cancelled As National Guard Arrives; Holder Demands To "Remove The Damn Tanks"
The Missouri Governor Jay Nixon gave "no heads up" to the White House before deploying The National Guard and has now made another abrupt decision as The National Guard closes in on Ferguson:
- *NIXON'S CALL TO HALT CURFEW TONIGHT MADE IN E-MAILED STATEMENT
We presume when there are military tanks rolling through the streets of a town, there is no need for the actual implementation of a curfew... This once again rubs the administration's nose in it as AG Holder's comments from last week hang in the air: "get those damned tanks out of there."
The neighborhood has been under a midnight-to-5 a.m. curfew the past two days, after Nixon declared a state of emergency. That has now changed...
Authorities on Monday lifted the overnight curfew for Ferguson, Missouri, after two nights.
The announcement came from Gov. Jay Nixon, who earlier in the day ordered the National Guard to the St. Louis suburb after a week of clashes between police and protesters over the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager.
Nixon said that the National Guard would have a limited mission and that overall command would still be the responsibility of the Highway Patrol, which took over security in Ferguson on Thursday.
The National Guard, under the command of Brig. Gen. Gregory Mason, will “provide protection, and ensure the safety of our Unified Command Center, which was the target last night of a coordinated attack,” Nixon said.
Nixon said that law enforcement officers were the target of gunfire on Sunday. The violence also included firebombs, looting and “a coordinated attempt to overrun the unified Command Center,” Nixon said.
.@AP Photo: President Obama talks with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder about situation in #Ferguson, Missouri pic.twitter.com/vkZc1TuqMD
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) August 18, 2014
And as WSJ reports, locals and Feds are not in agreement...
Mr. Holder, the attorney general, rewrote a statement about Ferguson he was planning to issue to emphasize he expected local authorities "to complete a thorough, fair investigation in their own right,'' even though the FBI had opened its own case into whether Mr. Brown's civil rights had been violated, a law-enforcement official said.
The two sides also clashed later in the week over the Ferguson Police Department's plan to release the surveillance tape of the convenience-store robbery. Lawyers in the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division objected, saying it would anger the community and intensify protests by those who felt it was an attack on Mr. Brown's reputation rather than an evenhanded disclosure of information, law-enforcement officials said.
The police department decided to release the video Friday, over the continued objections of federal officials. Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said last week the move came in response to numerous media freedom-of-information requests.
Federal, state, and local authorities also have disagreed publicly over the tactics and equipment deployed to deal with protests.
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"Tell them to remove the damn tanks," Mr. Holder told his deputies on Thursday, according to a law-enforcement official, referring to heavily armored vehicles the local police had used. That day there were discussions among local officials about how to scale back the armed presence, officials said.
We are sure this, too, will end very well: for the happy ending tune in tonight sometime after sundown.
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An affrican american witness at the scene relates an exact story matching the police account.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/
Never let the truth interrupt an exciting riot.
With martial law and the national guard in place, there is no need for a curfew. You step out of line, you pay the consequences, whether it's noon or midnight. Besides, you don't have to kill them all. Just one or two, and with a lot of publicity, all those brave thugs will run back to their Mama's house and hide and smoke crack in the basement until it's over.
Curfew lifted because it wasn't working and was only provoking more idiocy. Everytime the police do some jackboot shit in Ferguson the locals respond in kind.
Apparently all it takes to finally get people to wake up to the militarization and overuse of force is for a poor, mostly unemployed, continually oppressed populace to finally say they're not going to take it anymore. While looting a local store to protest police brutality is beyond stupid, here's a group of people standing up (in various ways, protesting, fighting etc) against the biggest gang of armed thugs in their community and the internet is abuzz with some of the most racist shit I've ever seen in my life. To me, it just goes to show that even among many of the "liberty loving" minds on this board, we, as a people, still cannot truly address the bigger issue because we're too busy pointing fingers at each other and calling each other "animals"
//So is looting and rioting stupid, or is it courageous and "standing up" for yourself? Which is it?
Has it crossed your mind that people are judged by their behavior, and when the behavior of a certain group of people has certain patterns to it (like rioting whenever one of your own is shot in questionable circumstances), then that particular people will be judged in a certain way?
In other words: why do you think it's racist to point out that blacks like to loot in these types of situations, when no other racial group does so when similar events happen?
"Don't get mad, get even" is highly applicable here.
There's a mixture of all happening in Ferguson. Thousands have taken to the streets in protest, dozens have looted and destroyed property, a handful have even directly attacked police.
The looting is particularly stupid, my statement about racism wasn't directly connected to anyone criticising looting, it's fairly objective to say that's dumb. It's not something we have to get too far into the weeds on, there are plenty of obviously trolling racist remarks on this topic throughout the discussion.
Thought experiment for folks that think calling looting blacks "animals" do you also use the same term when you hear about poor white meth users killing each other or robbing a store? If yes, carry on, if no (and be honest with yourself) why not?
//Looting - violating private property - is bad, rioting - fighting the police and forcing them to expend resources to keep you from taking them out - is good. If they were shooting at the police and trying to overrun the "Command center" rather than attacking stores, their tactics are moving in the right direction. What we need is for white people in other parts of the country to grow the balls to attack police stations and other .gov installations in their neighborhoods.
Go back to your bong load utopian buzz.tool.
Member for 6 weeks and 4 days eh? I guess that's enough time to start doing the same shit I was just calling out.
//There's no such thing as racism anymore..I mean look at this thread...
Potus : Lets seek to heal instead of WOUNDING each other.
Now that is an admission that the US is in virtual civil war. Who is out to wound whom ?
Are we talking Ukraine language in Ferguson?...
In Ukraine proxy war its all about WOUNDING the other! But thats Cold War stuff!
what makes you think ferguson is not a proxy war?
What uniforms they gonna try next?
So the prize tonight is a two star General? Awesome.
Brown's civil rights were violated? Bullshit. He was murdered and the perp is still free.
There is no rule of law. Just look at Obama and his hachet man Holder.
The family may get a settlement someday, but a civil or criminal trial that would expose the truth? That's extremely unlikely.
I've noticed that they've Treyvonned Brown's picture so he looks like an angelic young negroid boy. Probably a picture taken 5 years ago.... His thuggery pictures seems to never be used in any of the articles.
Yeah, get rid of the damn tanks. They are making it tough for my homies to loot the stuff they want.
What are the carpetbaggers called this time ?
eric the red holder is correct -- those tanks could be put to better use around the white house
Having lived through both the Watts riots of 1965 and the Rodney King riots of 1992 in LA and observed the aftermaths, I can say nothing new is going on in Ferguson.
Summary of the National Guard deployment in Watts (and in previous riots) here:
http://www.militarymuseum.org/watts.pdf
As for the causes, LA manufacturing went away -- for many reasons. And yes, the Iowans who settled LA were racist.
Did the protests/riots change anything? Well, yeah. In rare spots. Mostly not.
Dup
Police are establishing "organized protest zones" - how cute.
http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/
What could go wrong?
If you have to ask for permission to protest anywhere that is public domain they've already won as far as trampling on a Constitutional right.
If these people believe in this stuff they will just say fuck you and go protest somewhere the cops don't want them protesting. If the individuals in the National Guard really serve through the institutions and are we the people as opposed to serving for the institutions they will stand behind the protesters right to do so and not interfere as long they assemble peacefully. They won't pay lip service to the Constitution if they truely believe in it as the law of the land and back the people over the PD on this one as long as that condition holds that they are doing it peacefully.
Ferguson No Fly Zone issued again-- runs from today through 8/25.
Fukll document shown here:
http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn
http://linkis.com/tfr.faa.gov/save_pag/v0M56
And if the media has any integrity they will violate this and fly in the news choppers anyways since a flyover ban is in essence an attack on the media's ability to report on the news if they are also included in that ban.
Community Organizers setting the agenda
like they did with Trayvon.
This is the only pic of Mike Brown they want out there, they even said so.
https://twitter.com/eyeEEsha/status/499798752987578371/photo/1
Kid still looks like he has a resentful attitude and chip on his shoulder in his grad pic lol!
Yes they need to change the conversation and use the controlled media turning this into a race only problem and to keep whitelandia behind the militarized police state since they are dumb rootin tootin lootin niggers and had it coming anyways....
That can't have the conversation be about the militarization of the PDs and how they are not protecting and serving we the people which includes whitelandia and the dumb rootin tootin lootin niggers.
You saw what they were doing to protesters and journalists training red dots on their heads to intimidate them from doing their jobs and in essence attacking the Constitution by doing so.
The reality is white cops and racism go to together when they have to work the ghettos. If they actually saw these people as human beings and not animals and sub humans, militarized police force or not the race problem wouldn't be a major issue either. But this is what happens when you the police are not part of the communities.
They maybe dumb rootin tootin lootin niggers but they are still Americans and in turn that makes them your dumb rootin tootin lootin niggers and if you believe in freedom, liberty, Constitutions and all that jazz you have to deal with the issue as you would with problematic family member not some human fido you wack on the nose with a newspaper when they shit on the rug. They are still we the people.
Not bad for a sixth grade graduation picture!
Most common media picture...
Brown before puberty....
http://i2.wp.com/www.mysugardaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Cops-Ki...
Brown after puberty..... never shown or referenced.
http://i0.wp.com/charlestonthuglife.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Scree...
"an unarmed black teenager"
1. What difference does the race of the individual make?
2. Although 18 is technically teenage a person of 18 is in fact a legal adult, what is commonly reffer to as a man.
3. An unarmed 6'4" 292 lb man can do a hell of a lot of damage; expecially if they are enraged and/or on drugs.
4a. Have the autopsies that have been performed included testing for drugs?
4b. If so, was Mr. Brown high on drugs, and if so, what drugs?
5. The decision to declare a state of emergency and to implement a curfew seems prudent considering the continuing violence, including the looting of multiple business extablishments and the shooting of at least two individuals last night according to numerous reports. Exactly why is the Federal Government trying to interefere in this matter when it is obviously a local and/or state issue that is entirely within the discretion and perview of the local and state authorities?
6. Under what authority is the DOD and/or DOJ interfering in the administration of the local and state government in administering/governing Ferguson and MO?
7. What absolute Federal guarantees of the protection of persons and property, if any, are being extended to the residents and businesses in Ferguson by the Federal authorites who have chosen to interfere with the decisions of the local and state authorites concening the security and law enforcement activities in Ferguson?
I wonder what gated & secured community Holder lives in?
There is something about race relations and Federal power which is extremely convoluted here. I started writing about it but it's too important to deal with on the fly.
The core of it is that so long as minorities, especially Black people, depend on the Federal government for protection we are not going to be able to unite against the Federal power, even as it leads us to our doom.
The only way out is to unite around taking that Federal power back for the people. But this requires that we come to terms with the racism that divides us.
There is no other way.
You need to put the bong down and smoke some of that good REALITY instead.
"The only way out is to unite around taking that Federal power back for the people. But this requires that we come to terms with the racism that divides us."
A black cop shot a black 6'4" 292 lb MAN that had apparently just robbed a business in Ferguson.
Until the issue of black on black violence is candidly discussed and confronted it is unlikely that conversations concerning racism and race based violence can or will be candid. Until candid discussions about the basis for racism are discussed, and race based violence is one of them; terms cannot be agreed upon.
I understand and have commented at length about the economic pressures, in particular those faced by black males in the present depressed economy and inflationary environment; but, the issue of culture of violence must be addressed simultaneously with the economic issues if these problems can possibly be resolved..
The inflation being caused by The FED cartel, and the economic and financial repressions associated must cease.
-So too must the racially motivated and predicated violence.
...even though the FBI had opened its own case into whether Mr. Brown's civil rights had been violated, a law-enforcement official said.
Well quite. He was only shot to death, while unarmed, by a policeman.
"Unified Command Center, which was the target last night of a coordinated attack"
Complete bullshit- I saw the live feed, there was no attack. The police had the crowd running.
Exactly and they started firing tear gas well below the start of the curfew and completely in random places including conveniently in the press assembly area. The only thing that got more ridiculous as the day passed on today was the police reasons and justification for it. All of this after this weekend when the chief said they wouldn't use tear gas again.
And so begins the era of the non-Presidency!
Been that way since the 1947 National Security Act.The ruling Elite came out into "open" so to speak on that date. When they are actively disobeyed by muppet "president" they are fired like in Nov. 22,1963.
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/nsaact1947.pdf
Cheers
Dog Days 2014.
Headline changed: Eric Holder to visit unruly plantation. Will ride shot gun on tank.
H0lder is the top "law enfocement officer" (ie: cop) in the nation. I want him to go face his black brothers with only his expensive suit and massive ego.
Bread and circus...head clown coming in. Won't his masters, the banksters, miss their daily boot licking?
"Banks are too big to jail". You, on the other hand, are just the right size.
This is all being staged.
Ask yourselves how it got this far.
There is no other explanation.
BULL SHIT THEATER FOR THE SHEEP
The country sherrif out ranks the governer, the FBI, and Erick Holder the AG.
Why the hell is he not calling the shots or is he that controlled or clueless?
The county sherriff is and always has been the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country.