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Ferguson Right Now: The National Guard Is Deploying - Live Feed

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The National Guard is on its way to Ferguson, Missouri...


this comes as 'official' sources have stated that Missouri Governor Nixon gave "no heads up" to the White House before deploying The National Guard...

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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:22 | 5108809 JulienFR
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Wow the great democracy in action
Army vs Citizens...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:25 | 5108827 Honey Badger
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Why the fuck should any state report to the White House?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:27 | 5108843 Rainman
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to get moar drones ?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:32 | 5108889 JulienFR
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Putin ? 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:37 | 5108926 Four chan
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whites half civilized blacks then emancipated them, you wouldn't train a dog half way then let it go in its own and expect it to retain  that half training and become fully trained. the violent and animalistic behavior of blacks is because whites never gave them the skills to be civilized humans. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:42 | 5108950 NoTTD
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That's right.  It's my fault.  I accept full responsibility.


Of course, had I known it was going to turn out like this I'd have picked my own damn cotton.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:51 | 5108996 Four chan
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i only half kid, some people black or white will never evolve.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:58 | 5109036 MeMadMax
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Put them monkeys down!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:00 | 5109049 Xibalba
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An excerpt from They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45 Milton Mayer


But Then It Was Too Late

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:18 | 5109162 Bindar Dundat
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Spread this one around! Finally some light and insight!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:01 | 5109349 Latina Lover
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Sad day for Amerika, err America.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:19 | 5109417 SamAdams
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They are using kid's on bikes as human shields.  Bomb them, erradicate the terrorists and all collateral in the vicinity!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5109523 Paveway IV
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WTF? I couldn't believe they were actually deploying an ISIS convoy to Ferguson. 

A closer look proves the Humvees to be Missouri National Guard. When did they start using ISIS vehicles? The CIA is going to be pissed about this one.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:28 | 5109858 TeamDepends
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Ferguson is the dry run petri dish test to see what works and what still needs to be fine-tuned before they shut off the EBTs.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:43 | 5109954 James_Cole
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America wow, what in the hell is going on there?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:02 | 5109351 Raymond K Hessel
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More importantly, did anyone else pass the Rack Test advertised above the comments section?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5109527 BustainMovealota
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Yeah,  but I think its going to go much further than just those Africans in MO.  You will see this spread to the middle class crackers, also..,, across the country.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:43 | 5108959 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You are a tragic product of the American educational system.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:51 | 5109308 PAPA ROACH
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"Missouri Governor Nixon gave "no heads up" to the White House before deploying The National Guard"


Did the White House give a heads up to Gov. Nixon before deploying Sharpton and Jackson to Ferguson??

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:28 | 5109496 Harbanger
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115% of the black community consistently vote Democrat.  Democrats own this baby just like they own the failed public school system.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:50 | 5108992 LetsGetPhysical
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Always somebody elses fault. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5109531 Harbanger
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To be a liberal is never have to say you're sorry, or take responsibility.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:42 | 5109573 Elliott Eldrich
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Funny thing about that, I've noticed the exact same trend among the "conservative" oligarchs; take no blame, have no shame, admit nothing ever. 


Maybe the problem is bigger than "liberal" and "conservative." Maybe the problem is that the human race sucks shit and deserves extinction.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:48 | 5109598 Keyser
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No, the human race is just exhibiting their innate psyche as we are not that far removed from swinging in the trees and killing for our food... We are driven by fear and greed... What else do you need to know? 


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:49 | 5109607 Harbanger
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"Maybe the problem is bigger than "liberal" and "conservative." Maybe the problem is that the human race sucks shit and deserves extinction."

No.  The problem is 50 years of Liberalism in the US, I can guarantee you that there are zero Conservative blacks looting. You verbalized the exact position of the Left on humanity, most will never admit it publicly.  This social breakdown is all by design of the liberal left.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:12 | 5109722 Snoopy the Economist
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"The problem is 50 years of Liberalism in the US, I can guarantee you that there are zero Conservative blacks looting"

Wow - great insight. Agree completely. I know of no conservative who would act anywhere near this animalistic. Conservatives are born from research and reading - likely neither of which those animals can do.


But it's almost certain that those animals will vote democrat to keep the 'spice' flowing.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:46 | 5110577 James_Cole
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Wow - great insight. Agree completely. I know of no conservative who would act anywhere near this animalistic. Conservatives are born from research and reading - likely neither of which those animals can do.

Lol. American 'conservatives' tend to be well read - yes good one hahaha

The personal responsibility crowd would love to take credit for any problems they have caused but tragically nothing is their fault. It's all them blacks, jews, mexicans, liberals...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 19:45 | 5111663 Snoopy the Economist
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"Conservatives are born from research and reading"

Most people see them selves as democrats until they research the facts - then they become conservatives especially once they see their tax dollars deducted from their checks and the abuse of the system.

So who's dick is up your ass?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 20:21 | 5111908 James_Cole
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Most people see them selves as democrats until they research the facts - then they become conservatives especially once they see their tax dollars deducted from their checks and the abuse of the system.

zh has a global audience, I am not a democrat. I’m not interested in being taxed to death by corrupt governments either. 

 Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property.

As compared to:

Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions. A person who follows the philosophies of conservatism is referred to as a traditionalist or conservative. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".

Nothing about taxes in either. 


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:30 | 5109222 tarsubil
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Haha, right. Acting like feral dogs never occurs among whites? What a joke. What you see in Ferguson is normal for the historical behavior of all human beings.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:50 | 5109609 Keyser
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Then why is it you don't see white, latinos and asians doing this sort of shit? I'll tell you why, because they are not savages... Admit it, you know I'm right... 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:06 | 5109699 CheapBastard
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I was glad to see the Paki store owner issue an apology this morning for attacking the Robber with his throat. He didn't know what came over him, he said, when he lunged at the 6'4" 294 lb Giant using his thin neck as a weapon.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:32 | 5109881 hesk
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I was losing sleep over that. He dared use his body to forceable block the gentle giant. He has just celerbrating before going to college.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:13 | 5109754 buyingsterling
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Got any video proof of that RIDICULOUS claim (proof that doesn't involve sports related violence)? I can direct you to THOUSANDS of videos of young black men rioting or collectively attacking innocents, worldwide.

Testosterone is a chemical. It has substance and weight. As such, it can be measured. Blacks have higher levels of testosterone, on AVERAGE. '

ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL any scientist worth a drop of piss would tell you to expect more violent behavior among populations with higher testosterone, period, FULL STOP.

Your statement echoes the childish idea that we're all the same physically and mentally. Blacks look different from other races, with different hair, skin, muscle type (fast twitch), facial features, skull size, disease susceptibiliity, etc. But those meaningless differences are the only ones there are? There can be no difference in brain function or capacity, and there can be no differences in chemical makeup that affects behavior? Asinine. Science as wish.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:52 | 5110655 James_Cole
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Got any video proof of that RIDICULOUS claim (proof that doesn't involve sports related violence)? I can direct you to THOUSANDS of videos of young black men rioting or collectively attacking innocents, worldwide.

My well-read conservative sources tell me this is true - never once in all of recorded history have white people brutally killed innocent folks of other races en masse. Never once!

They've never even raised a hand against each other either, angels them white folks is!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 19:58 | 5111766 buyingsterling
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Hi James,

Would you feel safer alone on a subway with 50 randomly chosen black youth, or 50 randomly chosen whites?

This is not an intelligence test. The test is whether you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

But it is a trick question. If you say 'no difference' or 'blacks' then you had a trick played on your by your mama's genetics - they suck.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:13 | 5109760 my_nym
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Acting like feral dogs never occurs among whites?

Never is a long time and "among white people" could include the entire world.

I hadn't noticed many white people rioting when a white person has been raped, knocked out, mugged and so forth by black people.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:49 | 5109298 cockroachfuture
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because all blacks are one thing, and have been the same thing since reconstruction.

Fucking collectivist morons make the comments on this site a constant giggle.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:42 | 5109569 Harbanger
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The Democrats are responsible.  because all blacks have voted for the same party since reconstruction.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:11 | 5109404 my_nym
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If the racial realists are correct, then did one half of Obama train the other half?  


A racial idealist might say that the answer is more sex and marriage for all.  Make love, not race wars.  Sex > race.  But apparently, no one wants to do some real "integration"...  especially not the people that created the NAACP.  Interracial marriage is still illegal in Israel, if I recall correctly.  It's... da Jooos!  You knew it was coming.  It goes way back.  Supposedly they've been keeping track of who had sex with who and the formation of tribes for thousands of years.

Supposedly.  It's actually not exactly clear who had sex with who, sometimes.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:10 | 5109001 RafterManFMJ
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If the cops are such pussies they cannot handle it - - - they why, exactly, are they being given body armor, machine guns, night vision, APCs...etc?

Recall all the fancy toys, and issue the cops .38 revolvers. And a cool, completely white uniform. 

Or those cop uniforms from the 5th Element.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:26 | 5109193 foodstampbarry
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This is what happens when one segment of the population is for years and years told they are better than everyone else.

Blacks now believe that they actually have special rights and privileges above that of everyone else in the Nation.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:37 | 5109241 Miles Ahead
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Huh???  Man, ZH needs to establish some sort of admissions test to weed out new idiots needing someone to play with.  I mean, can just any ape sign up?  Special rights and privileges.  Yup, there's the problem.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:43 | 5109262 greatbeard
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>> can just any ape sign up?

Uh yes. Such is the price of freedom.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:03 | 5109359 Miles Ahead
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Freedom ain't free.  Apes should have to pay unless they can produce a 4-year degree from an accredited University plus 10 years work experience in their profession.

And (below) differing opinions?  Oh.  That's what that was.  You are of the opinion that Blacks have been taught that they have special rights to riot and have been granted the privilege to loot and plunder.    OK, I will stand down.  You have the right to that opinion, and I will fight to the death to defend your right, even if it means taking four to the torso and two to the dome.  (We have that privilege too, obviously).

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:46 | 5109279 foodstampbarry
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If you can't handle people with differing opinions, then maybe you should head on over to huffpo.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:07 | 5109391 Terminus C
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Ok, now you want inclusion?

People with limited reasoning and critical thinking skills allowed, but blacks are all bad.

I get it.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:10 | 5109399 Miles Ahead
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Here's an opinion.  Go fuck yourself.

And what's huffpo?  Is that like "costco"?  They givin' away free shit over there too?  I'm Audi...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:23 | 5109473 foodstampbarry
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You sure showed me! My day is now ruined. Nicely played.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:29 | 5109511 MillionDollarBogus_
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What's huffpo...???

A portal for folks with 4 year degrees..

Apparently you didn't get that memo...


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:36 | 5109548 Miles Ahead
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... prolly cause I dropped out after two sumesters at Tri-C.   Said fuck it and grabbed my axe and went to play me some blues.  College degrees are overrated anyway.  Look at the last two CINCs...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5109526 Miles Ahead
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Thanks mate.  I got court time for next Tuesday.  Same time, same station.  See ya.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:11 | 5109406 swmnguy
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Yeah, no shit.  Speaking as a white, middle-class American with an income about double the median, owning a home and cars and all the shit that makes life in America pretty nice even if I have to work at it and can't have just anything I want, I really envy the impoverished black people in the ghetto.  Yessirree, wouldn't it be just tits to live in a vermin-infested shithole because somebody else pays for it, never have enough money to go on vacation, have to justify my existence to bureaucrats any time I need medical care or have to deal with normal complications of life, be constantly faced with disdain, only ever deal with fucked-up people, never have any self-determination or satisfaction of having done anything on my terms...

Wouldn't that be just great?  Wouldn't everybody rather live like a house pet than become a functional adult human being?

Jesus, that attitude tells me nothing about poor black people, but a lot about the speaker.  Way too many of us really hate work, resent our own autonomy, and wish we were still toddlers in mind and body.  It's really discouraging.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:22 | 5110183 Grumbleduke
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wish I could give you more than one up. +100, there you have it!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:43 | 5109263 THX 1178
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I thought you were talking about the cops.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:44 | 5110625 duck dodgers
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Because that stuff is for when WHITE people revolt. They will have no mercy then.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:39 | 5108939 SafelyGraze
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somebody who can stand up to the local police!

at least .. they think they can.

wait until the local police show up with their "force-plus-one"

national guard will be running with their tail tucked between their legs

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:32 | 5109228 LawsofPhysics
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Sorry.  Local cops turning on Guardsmen (especially a well-trained sniper who recently returned) would get ugly quick.

Loyalites are very clearly spelled out in the chain of command, when it's life or death your unit will always come first.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:22 | 5109460 tony wilson
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rabbi change agents in der streets of der hood.

in der cops

and in der national guard

yes sir der rabbi never sleeps.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:57 | 5109659 Jack Burton
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Russia is funding, arming and training a black terrorist army in Mexican trainng camps over the border. Then sneaking them across to wage a proxy war on America.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:34 | 5109899 LawsofPhysics
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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:45 | 5109962 Jack Burton
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Ha! Ha! Aren't I just the optimist?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:04 | 5109370 f16hoser
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Kent State Part Duex... on deck

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:15 | 5109429 Miles Ahead
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Well if so, I hope it gives us something like this again.  One of the baddest cuts ever, by an immortal band.   Ohio.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:59 | 5110058 BurningFuld
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Written and composed by Neil Young. Just another great Canadian.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:34 | 5109533 whirling tword ...
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LOLOL.... nothing like under trained and over armed part time military to liven things up.....

I'm going to get popcorn with lots of butter for tonight.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:28 | 5108854 Headbanger
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YouTube video backs officer's story of shooting

Listen carefully to background conversation starting at 6:00

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:51 | 5109306 RaceToTheBottom
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Thanks for posting this.  I had not seen this before.  

The religious stuff didn't resonate with me, personally, but I love this.  

A major voice missing in the black dialog is this chap.   Well done, sir, you are just what is needed.

I admit, I voted for Obama.  Part of it was voting against Romney, but I was hoping for Obama to say things like exactly like this.  No white person can say this to a black person and have the same effect.  It has to come from Blacks

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:29 | 5109509 Miles Ahead
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Oh god, here we go... a Major Voice is this chap.  Let me go have a listen... I already know it's gonna be hilarious....

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:36 | 5109521 RaceToTheBottom
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OK, Maybe I wasn't clear about major voice, dickhead.  Of course he is not a major voice.  He is just some guy ranting.  But what he is saying needs to be said.  

I just meant I liked what this guy had to say placing blame on themselves and taking responsibility for their own action.  ASSHOLE

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:02 | 5109695 Miles Ahead
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"Dickhead"?  Moi?  You WERE clear about him being a major voice.  There was no ambiguity on my end.  But you were wrong; he ain't no major voice, he's just a fuckin' ape.  And an Epic Ape at that, since this is supposed to be an Epic Rant. 

I'm pissed because you guys had me watch that worthless shit in rapt anticipation of something special, or at least worthwhile.  A cop "beat on a brotha"?  Hellooo???  Yeah, beat on him six bullets.  I admit, it helps is little "epic" rant if he glosses over this point. Also "all the incidents" he's seen (of police brutality), the black guys were resisting arrest.  LOL... yeah, he got me on that one!  Like Rodney Kang... "stop resistin'!  stop resistin' whop, whop, whop (rinse, repeat 51 times).

If he's going to take a shot at his 15 min. of Facebook fame, he needs to learn when to use "We" vs. "Us".  He needs to stop making monkey faces and offensive caricatures when mocking black Americans.  His normal face is monkey enough, especially considering he keeps referring to more than 50 years but he still got them chemicals in his hare (sp) from the '70's.

Epic.  Fail.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:46 | 5110322 RaceToTheBottom
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I have to admit that the only thing that kept me interested past 2 minutes or even less was the expectation (OP said something about 6 minutes or something) that the guy was going to blow up or somehting.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:34 | 5109895 humble_man
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Brave man admitting an Obama vote on ZH, but I upvoted to counter the idiots who are waiting for the second coming of Ronald Reagan. That's right, I'm talking to YOU....the guy who thinks that saying 'Obummer' is clever, that calling the man's wife an ape is funny, and that throwing around the N-word is intelligent. Screw you guys.....I'm going home !!  (disclosure: I voted Ron Paul)

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:44 | 5110316 RaceToTheBottom
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LOL, I also voted for Ross Perot.

yeah, I am admitting that the vote was a mistake for many reasons, one of which was he has not done anything to help the black people from being anything but victims.  

That is also why I like Bill Cosby, and have said so many times here.

But on the real issues such as Banksters owning the country, there is not much a Presidential vote accomplishes, both sides have sold out to the statist corprocacy....


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:36 | 5108912 Ms. Erable
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Facts are irrelevant at this point; both sides are itchin' for a fight. I do, however, suspect that the majority of the residents in Ferguson wish that both 'sides' would fuck off and leave town.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:38 | 5108933 Four chan
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i susect you are right.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:03 | 5109076 GetZeeGold
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We're doing talking points....and the facts have nothing to do with it.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:37 | 5109546 whirling tword ...
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It stopped  being about the shooting long ago....  It doesn't make two shits who was wrong...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:38 | 5109245 general ambivalent
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In the laissez-faire laws of idiotcopocracy if you walk towards a cop you should die.

Anything to justify your hatred of other people.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:03 | 5109361 Raymond K Hessel
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Maybe they didn't get their electrolytes?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:30 | 5108875 salvadordaly
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I agreee there, why ask permission from GOTUS (Golfer).

Ponder this for a moment.

2 States have their National Gaurd deployed under this adminastration!

Hope and Change Baby!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:48 | 5108982 Meat Hammer
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Mission accomplished

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:54 | 5109005 dontgoforit
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It's so difficult to get a call through to hole 13 at the Vineyard this time of year....

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:01 | 5109059 oudinot
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To get more,moar  money?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:27 | 5109500 froze25
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Its a courtesey at best, wheather or not its deserved is another question.  But I do believe that all of the State governors signed over the command of the State National Guards to the Pres right after 911.  Maybe that was recinded?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:41 | 5109562 Bloppy
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Is racism really so bad in America when black people are barred from restaurants in S Korea?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:14 | 5109765 quadratic_equation
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I'm with you.  I don't remember this country's form of government changing to dictatorship where the HNIC has to make the decision for every State.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:26 | 5108842 Payne
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Disaster in the making, Troops are ill prepared for what is considered police work and on top of that the Police have given up Police work in favor of Para Military work.

They need a real policeman,  what was called a Peace Officer at times.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:38 | 5108902 salvadordaly
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Actually the National Gaurd trained for such a scenerio in St. Louis about 2 years ago.


edit: added link

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:08 | 5109720 Payne
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yes I trained for fire fighting once and I would hate to put out a fire today.  So what, training is not the same as being trained and ready.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:40 | 5108941 XitSam
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Ill prepared, yes. But they are getting slowly trained to put their boot on your face, forever.

I aim to misbehave.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:09 | 5109118 McMolotov
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+1 for the Malcolm Reynolds quote.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:08 | 5109112 McMolotov
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Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, we're finally on our own.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:14 | 5109148 Headbanger
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Four dead in O-hi-o


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:24 | 5109478 General Decline
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Different song, same topic


"keep the camera alive"

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:28 | 5109490 General Decline
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"the police used to watch over the people, now they're watching the people"

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:45 | 5109698 Jack Burton
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McMolotov, I am just old enough to get your meaning. Here we are all those years later and things are about to go to hell fast!

Wait till a real breakdown happens. Wait till LA goes up! Imagine the Latino Gangs, the Black Gangs, the Rich White Folks and the racist cops all go head to head on the streets of LA.

I saw the LA riots back in the 90's. I swear the next ones will require armored divisions and attack helicopters to supress. The low classes as so huge in LA, and the upper class is so rich, when the hundreds of thousands of gangsters on the streets start taking what they want, all hell is in store.

I don't live there, but if I did. My assortment of weapons would include not just assualt rifles, but RPGs with HE war heads.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:27 | 5108847 SMG
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This is a test run for the future.

Lesson to any future protestors against the oligarchs,  you must insist on protests being peaceful or it gives them an excuse to use force.

Civil disobedience is the only way to go.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:46 | 5108971 NemoDeNovo
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For a long time I would have 100% agreed with that position, but lately I am reconsidering whether the peaceful approach will work anymore.  Just my 2c.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:18 | 5109161 Richard Chesler
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They already have a way to deal with peaceful protests. It's called pepper spray.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:07 | 5109384 Raymond K Hessel
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"Civil disobedience" as a term where the government draws the line, atleast in all the TV news on the subject.

You "peacefully protest" but when you engage in "civil disobedience", well then, you're on the wrong side of the law.

How fucked up is that?

When did people have to be obedient to the government?  

When did that shit start? Every day I wake up in Bizarro Opposite world and I keep trying to go back to sleep so I can wake up in America.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:07 | 5110103 froze25
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It has been that way since we had the bankrupcy in 1933.  up is down, right is left.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 20:01 | 5111795 XitSam
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Yuma, AZ Feb 19,2016 -- Today the Federal Government closed the last First Amendment Free Speech Protest Zone near Yuma, Arizona.  The zone was closed due to lack of use said Interior Department spokesman Norman Twiddlebum. "People were mocking the zone, and hence free speech rights, by protesting the zone outside of the zone markers. If people do not want to express themselves in a government approved manner, then the government is within its powers to annul the first amendment," said Twiddlebum.

Summarizing related news ...

• Terrorist attacks continued in St. Louis, Missouri.  Government forces, with assistance from French and Nigerian troops, recently recaptured the city hall after a two day battle. "Peace will be restored, even if I have to destroy every building in St. Louis," said recently promoted General Mustard.

• The Northern Secession states declared that a presidential election would proceed in November for the seven seceeding states.

• Hillary Clinton was approved by the House and Senate in joint assembly to become the new vice president and was immediatly sworn in as president when Barack Obama was declared mentally incompetent. "It is vital that people unite behind me to restore the power of the federal government to it former glory," Clinton said. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:51 | 5108988 MsCreant
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Looting is stupid unless you are looting the specific target of your disgust (loot a bank, the Fed, The White House). If you are protesting pink slime and wood pulp food, then loot McDonalds. If you loot the armory, I get that also. The rest is at best bad planning, and at worst, an excuse to be an asshole. 

If the cops protected property and life only, they would not be in this mess they are in. No one criticizing that would have a leg to stand on.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:47 | 5109286 general ambivalent
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The problem with your theory is that when one is living in poverty everything in the environment can become an object of disgust. If you have no money then those people who are controlling the businesses in your area may then be the oppressors. In this sense the people are protesting and rioting against general conditions. And this makes more sense than many here who suggest peaceful protest and more waiting, whether or not it is the best thing to do must be set aside - this is a start.

The other problem is that many here are using the logic of free markets while denying that this society is a free market. Many of the liquor stores and businesses are gang fronts, just as in outer communities many bars and construction projects are controlled by mafia and biker gangs. This theory of property rights being one with life is just a law of corporatocracy. Small corporations can be the worst, just like gangs, because they become desperate.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:10 | 5109400 Raymond K Hessel
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Holy Mao, Batman!

Every crisis is an opportunity, isn't it?

Where societies have gone full retard on Marxism, all I notice is poverty and oppression for everyone except the elites.

Property rights are important to a free society.  What you're conflating is fascism with capitalism.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:32 | 5109525 Escrava Isaura
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new Raymond K Hessel,

You’re really disappointing us.

You need to get your nouns correctly. Let us assist you:

Welfare State: Concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens.

Corporatocracy State: An economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests, such as GE, Boeing, Military contractors, investment banks, and so on.

Socialist Nations: Workers through cooperatives own all industry. Socialist primary aim is to end the exploitation of men by men. Public services may be commonly or state owned, such as healthcare and education.

Fascist Nations: Heavily on patriotism and national identity. It exalts nation and race above the individual and stands for severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Marxism: Who controls value (profit). Private owners called the bourgeoisie or the proletariat called the workers. As the contradiction becomes apparent, social unrest between the two antagonistic classes intensifies, culminating in a social revolution.

Source: Wikipedia

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:45 | 5109578 Raymond K Hessel
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Holy fucking Ho Chi Minh!!!

You are a neo-zoom maxed dweebie!

Your source is really from Gutierrez, Piketty, Ayers, the Common Core, A People's History of the United States, and ACORN.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:34 | 5110260 Escrava Isaura
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Raymond K Hessel

There's a say that goes like this:

Before speaking... Think

Before writing... Research

Otherwise you sound really stupid.....

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:36 | 5109543 general ambivalent
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I'm not sure how you're coming to the conclusion that I'm a maoist/capitalist/fascist chimaera. All I really said is that extreme impoverishment can lead to extremely denatured beings, what people here are calling 'black animals'. Would you like to provide a counter, how extreme poverty is next to capitalist godliness?

The other thing I said was that property rights should not be elevated over human life. That does not equate to maoism, marxism, or capitalism. Instead that should be a common idea of human decency. The focus on poverty as an absolute right tends to come about in absolutist societies, in governmental forms where the smallest minority controls all of the property. In ancient Greece more than 80% of people were slaves. Modern America, whether you call it modern democracy or a capitalist republic, is very much the same - very few people control property. The control of property tends to make one an agent of the state, if a diffuse one.

Capitalism is not a free society, capitalism is a method of economic exchange within monarchism and democracy. The necessary property of individual and community life is important to a free society. But not more important than the ability of individuals and the community to participate in the complete fulfillment of other areas of life. And not more important than a right to participation or non-participation. The focus on property rights and property exchange/contracts as the absolute law of a society is where democratic capitalism and marxism are one and the same. Both systems introduce mandatory collectivisation into the cult of property. The only difference is that capitalism wants to keep as many as possible outside of the collective, and marxism wants to corral as many as possible in (marxism is, after all, state capitalism). This leads to two different extremes from the same foundation.

As you say, poverty and oppression for everyone but the elites. There is no differentiation in this between capitalists or marxists. Marxism simply results in all of the oppressed being equal, while capitalism results in all of the oppressed recreating another tier of elites and oppression until no one knows who is who.

The dictat to let the poor to their own devices was introduced by central governments of French monarchy, so it is strange that American capitalists, hating both these forms, have something so in common. If you are really opposed to central government then you should also be opposed to the state's method of economy (meaning capitalism), its theology, its science, and many of its ideologies of life. The problem is of creating communities within a society, while not being reduced to the democratic and capitalist laws of positive and negative liberty - which are the laws of poverty, economic, daily life, spiritual, philosophical, or otherwise.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:56 | 5110038 Overfed
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By your logic, Indians and Southeast Asians/Chinese should be just as savage and violent as blacks, but they aren't.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:12 | 5109415 earnulf
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As I see it, the problem in urban areas is there is nothing the average person can produce with thier own labor, other that illegal items/offerings.    They lack the space to grow their own food (self-sufficiency), the capital to compete with fancy gee-whiz flashbangs and have little to no drive to consider ways to be productive because they are filled with self-pity.

Not all, but a majority are on some type of public assistance and since they are getting something for nothing, why bust your rear in a minimum wage offering that will only negate your assistance and make it impossible to rise beyound.    Getting out means have skills that are valuable elsewhere and the means to get to that place to offer them for hire.

No education, No diction, No Skills and No Health.   Yep, prime hiring material.    Oh, and let's not forget that, what was it called again...oh yeah, Work Ethic which is pretty much non-existant.    

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.   Give him subsistance and he'll lick your hand until you stop.    Teach a man how to stand on his own two feet and he might make something of himself, but at that point, it's no longer your responsibility.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:39 | 5109555 Escrava Isaura
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And you call yourself a university professor?


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:11 | 5109747 Agent P
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Tonight would be a good night to loot the armory.  Sure the inventory will be down, but while the cat's away...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:30 | 5108869 TideFighter
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Just drop pre-approved job applications and watch them scatter. Here it is, Monday morning, WTF, don't ANY of those people work??!!  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:53 | 5109004 Zadok
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When the hunger sets in for a while and all other genuine criminal (as opposed to statutory crimes) have been exhausted.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:51 | 5109310 general ambivalent
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We're in a depression and you're criticising people for not having jobs. Some extremely hypocritical comments coming out in these Ferguson threads. It speaks volumes.

Need I remind you? This is a false economy, nothing anyone does is of any real value. Not contributing would be a good start rather than telling people to get a job to support the false economy.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:12 | 5109411 Raymond K Hessel
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He's not suggesting the looters are jobless as a result of the depression.  He's suggesting that the looters are members of the Free Shit Army that would never take a job when welfare continues to pay as much at $50k per year.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:47 | 5109591 general ambivalent
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That's the point. Your opinion of the Free Shit Army does not create jobs. When there is a depression and systemic unemployment there will be many jobless, and the laws of entropy determine that much of this unemployment will be grouped together in localised areas.

You can't just go out and get a job when the system is based on printed money and giving 50 billion a month welfare to corporations. Capitalism demands a set amount of poverty for its constructed state laws to function. This means that at least one in ten people are forced into a kafkaesque wandering between jobs and bureaucratic 'assistance, not to mention all of the heartless characters who antagonise them for not having a job. That is there job, it is just unpaid.

Capitalism is a Free Shit Army by its very nature, producing shit people don't need with an army mobilising people to think they are free.

(And I highly doubt many make 50k on welfare, sounds like FoxNews and reality teevee 'public relations'.)

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:02 | 5109687 Raymond K Hessel
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Actually I came up with $50k from analysis presented here on ZH. Your reference to FoxNews is a lame attempt to conflate me with the neo-con perspective.  That's pretty simplistic attack on a site like this.  

Your attempt at combining the laws of entropy with unemployment to discuss social issues suggests to me that you're a sophomore in college, perhaps taking Anthopology as a major.  Maybe you're a first year grad student at the New School?  

What you insist on describing as capitalism is actually fascism.  

I couldn't say any clearer to you if I said it in your native Mandarin.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:54 | 5110364 Escrava Isaura
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general ambivalent

Raymond K Hessel wrote in response to my post:You are a neo-zoom maxed dweebie! Your source is really from Gutierrez, Piketty, Ayers, and ACORN.

Then, Raymond K Hessel tells you: “Your reference to FoxNews is a lame attempt to conflate me with the neo-con perspective.”

general ambivalent

Raymond K Hessel indulges in stupidity and hypocrisy.


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:55 | 5109328 saints51
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What if a lot work in this area with all businesses being closed due to these events. Would you want your wife or older children attempting to get to their place of employment.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:38 | 5108927 Freddie
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Where is the National Guard on the AZ and NM borders stopping the illegal invasion?   Rick Perry calle dthem out and he gets indicted.

F the Guard, MIC and the EBT looters.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:52 | 5108986 Iriestx
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These people aren't citizens, they're welfare animals.  They don't work, they don't pay taxes, they're just hyper-violent monkeys.   Honestly, the real citizens of this country would be better off if the National Guard put a bullet into the heads of each and every one of them.

I'm tired of watching half of my paycheck being stolen from me every week so these worthless animals can have all the things I have to work for, for "free."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:56 | 5109023 Zadok
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Then direct that anger toward the ones doing the stealing on your way out please...

The receivers will take care of themselves once supply is ceased...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:00 | 5109051 Iriestx
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The moment these monkeys don't get their "free" stuff they'll go bezerk like this in every town in America.  We've been feeding and breeding these sick, violent animals for too long.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:06 | 5109096 Quinvarius
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Are you talking about the police?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:34 | 5109229 Zadok
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All FSA, whatever costume they wear.

Cops, bloods, Feds, crips, what difference, at this point, (or at any point really) does it make?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 14:30 | 5109862 Agent P
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"Oh, he's very popular Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:46 | 5109585 CharlieMike
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Violent gangs of any type.  The ones in State and Federal issued costumes included.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:58 | 5109032 Kprime
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better watch out, you will be labeled a welfare terrorist.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:59 | 5109041 Ms. Erable
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Are you talking about the rioters in Ferguson, or the boardroom at JPM? Your comment works in either context.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5109319 general ambivalent
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Kill yourself with papercuts from Leviathan. Print yourself to death, crypto-fed cultist.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:14 | 5109425 Raymond K Hessel
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Holy shit!  You must be Wangluo shuijun



Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:01 | 5109350 Duffy
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Well, you fell for it, you ignorant twat.  All your prejudice and hate gets directed at the poor people whom the people who are really robbing you, and the rest of us, want you to focus your attention on.


Fucking chump.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:52 | 5108997 Maplehood
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For what it's worth, Darren Wilson's side of the story


Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:27 | 5109207 williambanzai7
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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:49 | 5109292 Theta_Burn
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Thats funny as hell..

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:49 | 5109300 pazmaker
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Most people on this thread are too easily forgeting about these looters.


Thanks for the reminder banzai

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:03 | 5109355 BlackSwanCrash
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your images are pure shite

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 13:16 | 5109434 Terminus C
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You mad Hank?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 12:57 | 5109334 Freddie
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Funny seeing RT aka Russia Today providing the best coverage and least boased of the news. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:22 | 5108810 Theta_Burn
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You will respect meh gold seal authooritee...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:36 | 5108919 Urban Redneck
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If the Missouri Secretary of State (or the Governor) had any ballz and an actual beef with the federal fascists in DC, then Secretary Kander should have used the "other" gold seal authooritee... the Apostille.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:24 | 5108812 Kprime
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he must have a phone and a pen too.

on the other hand, no real reason or purpose in disturbing obies golf and party agenda.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:23 | 5108814 IridiumRebel
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I believe you will see our first true domestic war between troops and civilians right here. Thugs got guns and there will be an exchange.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:27 | 5108845 Kprime
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given the totalitarian nature of the merika government, it's time for some civil action.

"civil action", isn't that like "police action", the .govs euphemism for war.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 11:30 | 5108862 Ms. Erable
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So it's a kinetic peacekeeping action?

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