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Ukraine, Lebanon Demand US "Weapons, Aviation, Air-Defense Equipment"

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Now that the US is exhibiting all the tact of a neocon bull in a china world, and has resumed airborne assaults in Iraq (with US marines on the ground merely for decorative purposes) it is hardly surprising that the rest of the world - at least those who are supposedly allied ideologically with Washington (if only for the time being) - suddenly feels entitled to US assistance. Not surprisingly, the first one to knock on the door of US military handouts is none other than the Kiev, whose parliamentary speaker Oleksandr Turchynov, said in an interview with BNS, that the country needs "modern weapons, aviation, air-defense equipment from U.S., European partners."

He continues: "If we were to receive military equipment assistance, we could regain the territory in a relatively short period of time. That’s an obvious fact for us. However, if strategic partners believe aggression should be addressed by peaceful means, through negotiations, then it may take a while."

The reason for this strong hint that the US should step up and protect its national interest bordering Russia? The usual hint that it is this, or Ukraine becoming a member of the EU and NATO "to feel secure."

Turchynov continues: "EU, NATO membership would be “tangible guarantee against Russia’s future intentions. Russia would then stop dreaming it can recreate some sort of post-Soviet empire that includes Ukraine. That won’t happen. Ukraine can defend itself. When we become a full member of civilized Europe, this will put a full stop to Putin’s dreams."

Alas, there was little contemplation to what Russia's response would be if the Kremlin were to wake up one day with a brand new NATO member country along its border, when it is precisely the threat of even more NATO expansion that may explain Putin's behavior of the past 6 or so months.

But while Ukraine's request clearly has strings attached, another comparable demand just issued by Lebanon was far more direct: the middle-east country has joined the chorus of those seeking to obtain fixed-wing combat aircraft from the US to use in its struggle against jihadists after a recent heavy battle for control of the town Arsal. A potential deal for planes comes alongside a request to replenish spent ammunition stores that were depleted during the fierce five-day clash earlier this month, the Lebanon Daily Star reported on Monday.

And unlike Ukraine, where the retaliation by Putin is a far too glaring concern on the minds of NATO leaders, when it comes to Lebanon, providing further weapons to the nation that borders both Israel and Syria in a conflict that many allege was started by the US itself when it began arming Syrian "rebels", the US will have no qualms about boosting the top and bottom line of its private and public-sector arms exporters. From the Times of Israel:

The United States plans to supply Lebanon’s army with additional munitions and ordnance in a bid to bolster the force after clashes with jihadists, the US ambassador to Beirut said last week. The new assistance comes after Lebanon’s military requested emergency aid following the unprecedented clashes with jihadists in the eastern Arsal region of the country, on the Syrian border.

 

The clashes that began August 2 left 19 soldiers dead, and another 19 are still being held hostage despite a truce deal that saw the militants withdraw from the town after five days of fighting, in the most serious spillover of violence from Syria after three days of fighting.

 

“The United States will soon deliver additional munitions and ordnance for offensive and defensive combat operations by the LAF (Lebanese Armed Forces),” US ambassador David Hale said in a statement.

 

“This assistance will enhance the LAF’s ability to secure Lebanon’s borders, protect Lebanon’s people, and fight these violent extremist groups,” he said.

 

“US military assistance will begin arriving in the next few weeks and continue in the months to follow.” He said the aid was part of a long-term US project to support Lebanon’s army, often seen as one of the few institutions in the country commanding near universal support and allegiance.

 

“Since just last October, the United States has provided more than $120 million worth of training and equipment to the LAF to strengthen its role as the sole legitimate defender of Lebanon’s sovereignty,” Hale said.

It's not just the US: a brief timeline of recent arms "supplies" to the region:

Lebanon’s army has publicly requested international assistance to bolster its poorly-equipped troops as they battle the violence spilling over from the war in neighboring Syria.

 

Last December, Saudi Arabia pledged to buy the army $3 billion worth of weapons and equipment from France, but the items to be provided have yet to be finalized and nothing has been delivered so far.

 

Riyadh also pledged an additional $1 billion to pay for immediate needs, delivering it through their close ally, former Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri.

 

That additional aid was announced during the fighting in Arsal that left dozens of militants and civilians dead, raising new fears about the effects of Syria’s war on Lebanon’s stability.

A Syrian war, incidentally, which only escalated out of control and lead to the rise of ISIS, the caliphate, and a grand realignment of regional Mid-East forces, only after the US decided to provide the domestic al-Qaeda linked rebel forces with state of the arts troops, which then made their way to Iraqi-based Jihadists, who then used the same weapons to capture even more made in the US weapons in various army bases in America's foreign intervention "success story" - Iraq.

At this point the cynically inclined would be forgiven if they assume that the only purpose of the ever broader middle-east conflict is to supply all the warring parties with US weapons, training and supplies (with loans provided by Western, "money-laundering" banks whose inevitable penalty will be about 0.1% of all the profits generated). Because that GDP won't grow on its own.

 

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Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:06 | 5110098 Kirk2NCC1701
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The Uke Rebels might as well ask also.  Stranger things have happened.

/s

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:08 | 5110104 Kirk2NCC1701
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Bullish for US and UK MIC. 

/ Buy MIC stocks. /sarc

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:09 | 5110109 Ozy_mandias
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Long Raytheon

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:14 | 5110148 pods
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I am sure Israel will approve of the US giving arms to Lebanon.

What was that thing that Washington said about entangling alliances?

My head hurts from all this crap.

Now the US is blowing up US humvees that ISIS has with US bombs?  

Bull in a China shop is right.

pods

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:20 | 5110177 Professorlocknload
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Hard to make a quality enemy out of someone if you don't arm them.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:28 | 5110219 toady
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This is turning into a problem though....

The MIC has gone from selling their products to giving their products, at taxpayer expense.

And everyone knows the taxpayer is tapped out.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:41 | 5110607 SafelyGraze
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people of ferguson are requesting the same aid

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:44 | 5110628 BigJim
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The taxpayer may be tapped out. But the Fed may just be getting warmed up.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:30 | 5110237 Greenskeeper_Carl
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somewhere, somehow, krugman read your comment, and instantly went 'from 6 to midnight' over all those 'broken windows'

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:42 | 5110300 dracos_ghost
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@Pods, I believe it's called the "I'm my own Grandpa" stratagem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:54 | 5110667 Kirk2NCC1701
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"pods, this is not as contradictory as it appears.  Let me be clear:  We are a nation in the Destruction and Construction business.  And if you give me your GPS coordinates, I would be happy to demonstrate this to you."  - O

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:58 | 5110687 SmittyinLA
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Long Chinese & Israeli copies of Raytheon they get copies the second our Iraqi, Syrian or Ukraine "allies" get a missile delivery.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:33 | 5110838 Kirk2NCC1701
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Israel does not need "copies". 

If you've worked in the MIC in recent years, you'd realize that various Israeli companies in the IDI (Israeli Defense Industries) are deeply embedded into DOD projects and US defense contractors -- everything from Top Management, Project Management, SCM (Supply Chain Management) and Engineering. 

What they do then, is they tweak the electronics and the SW to their preference, often getting superior performance.  The version they sell to others, is... "Detuned".  That's a FACT.  You can bet the winning Lottery ticket on it.  You can also bet that anything they sell (rockets, planes) have a hidden back-door Fail-safe, to ensure that they won't be used against Israel itself.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 19:24 | 5111511 reader2010
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it's been the open secret since 80s.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:09 | 5110113 nope-1004
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CIA/Israel create ISIS.  ISIS attempts to overthrow Assad in Syria, will attempt to invade Iran, SA possibly too.  Other ME nations plead for the US to come in and bomb what they created.  Gives the US opportunity to sell to the public the need for action.

Such a dog and pony show.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:29 | 5110231 constantine
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Iran would obliterate the ISIS clowns.  Iran's leadership would have no problem rallying their Persian, Shia troops to pick on a much smaller Arab, Sunni foe.  The Iranian public would whole-heartedly support the destruction of ISIS.  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:11 | 5110129 Canadian Dirtlump
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The Uke rebels seem to be giving them all they can handle and more ( no surprising given the regular army is defecting en masse and they are fighting a collection of US and neo nazi militias ). Lack of arms isn't what is the case in Ukraine. All arming them will serve to do is to help inch towards WW3.

 

As for Lebanon, file that under sow the wind reap the whirlwind. I'm glad they are fighting ISIS and all but everyone's complicity in trying to destroy syria has boomeranged on them spectacularly and it looks great on them.

 

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:09 | 5110705 Kirk2NCC1701
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I have a different take on this... The "Ukrainian" aggressors are not the Uke Regulars.  They are a Private Oligarch Army, embedded in the Uke Armed Forces, and consisting of Mercs and a few Uke psychos & crackpots (present in every country and every Army).

These dual-citizen Oligarchs are doing what they do best:  Bamboozle people and use OPM for their private ambitions and indulgences, and leverage their Oli global network for support.  As some would say... "That's not Cricket", or "That's not kosher".  But it can be made kosher if the right hands and egos are greased.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:11 | 5110733 Canadian Dirtlump
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The aggressors are the paid miilitas and mercenaries of the oligarchs and west yeah 100% agreed. As I said the army of the Ukraine is not under armed, they are just not up for a fight and are deserting. If we are arming Ukraine it will be either arming mercenaries to kill Russians in the East of Ukraine, or to provide a strategic threat to Russia.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:35 | 5110849 Kirk2NCC1701
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Agree 100%.

Tue, 08/19/2014 - 02:45 | 5113233 Sirius Wonderblast
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And in today's Telegraph (which has some unfortunte prior in this conflict), unconfirmed and unphotographed reports of Russia/rebels having destroyed a convoy of refugees, who may or may not have been on the road the humantiarian convoy may or may not end up taking, and may or may not have actually been hit by Ukraine army who may or may not also have been escorting it (if it ever existed). It gets more desperate, and yet more pathetic.

Tue, 08/19/2014 - 22:19 | 5118096 Gandulf
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These Oligarch have $100+ Billion Dollars between them but are asking taxpayers in the US and Europe to fund their dirty little war.  Ukraine is a failed state because of these dual-citizen arseholes and US/EU taxpayer money is being used to maintain the status quo. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:13 | 5110132 Gregor Samsa
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Poor Uke rebels... if only they were Syrian rebels we would gladly arm them in the fight against an oppressive government waging a war against their own people.

But unfortunately they live in Ukraine, which means we support the oppressive government waging a war against their own people.

Make sense?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:27 | 5110218 Greenskeeper_Carl
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stranger things ARE happening. Such as the UD govt is supplying both the syrian rebels(ISIS), and the iraqi military. So why not fund both sides here too, i mean, its not like we cant just PRINT MOAR MONEY.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:04 | 5110324 WTFx10
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"So why not fund both sides here too"

 

The international Bankers do it all the time!

Well they tell us they are international but we know what nation most of them belong to or at least use to their advantage and our disadvantage if you question it.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:07 | 5110102 Infinite QE
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And I demand that these New Bolshevik terrorists driving the world towards WWW 3 be put down like the rabid dogs they are!

Tue, 08/19/2014 - 22:37 | 5118183 Gandulf
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 The Bolshevics, who were 90% jewish, murdered over 10 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor. The descendents of the Bolsheviks are still active in the Ukraine and Russia. In Israel the arrival of the Bolsheviks in the early nineties turned Israel to the Extreme right.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:08 | 5110105 MsCreant
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Should I feel sorry for Obama??

There is a point this all piles on so much it goes from overwhelming to funny.

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:08 | 5110112 saints51
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Well he is a bed wetter.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:11 | 5110127 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yes you should feel very sorry for the Kenyan. He hasn't been able to break 90 after his last 200 rounds of golf!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:13 | 5110128 ebworthen
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Send him two pink golf balls and with a note that says:

"Put these in your briefs next time you talk to Putin, they might help."

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:27 | 5110212 Uncle Remus
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I'll bet you can get Sheriff Joe to gift O'Duffer some pink boxers too.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:46 | 5110323 MsCreant
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Joe sure ain't gonna gift him the balls!

Well, unless they, you know, get together, you know, if the rumors were true, er, uh...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:55 | 5110384 Uncle Remus
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Eeeewwwww

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:16 | 5110151 dr.charlemagne
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stop bothering him, he is on vacation

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:09 | 5110114 Itchy and Scratchy
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RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:09 | 5110118 ebworthen
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How ironic; my tax dollars used to prop a neo-Nazi putsch regime 69 years after the end of WWII - in which Russia was our ally defeating the Nazi's.

The Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves and King George is laughing.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:33 | 5110258 Sofa King Confused
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We are the Nazi's this time around.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:43 | 5110313 WTFx10
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ZIONISTS I think is the better term. Well defiantly the government is ZO, will the majority of the goy follow our traitorous leaders?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:06 | 5110439 Uncle Remus
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Finally - I can break out the jodhpurs.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:35 | 5110266 Greenskeeper_Carl
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intervention breeds moar intervention. "free trade with all nations, entagling alliances with none". Our founding fathers were cognizant of history. They understood that the monarchies of europe would slaughter each others citizens in mostly pointless warfare every couple of generations, and wanted no part of it. And to think, ALL of this is a result of our involvment in Europe's genocidal wars, which we began to participate in at the beginning of the last century

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 21:38 | 5112229 Escrava Isaura
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Greenskeeper_Carl,

Psssst! Let me tell a secret, but don't tell anyone.

Your history is pretty distorted.

You need to get ‘curious’ about the “Founding Lawyers.” And a good place to start: Shays’ Rebellion   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion

Once at it, I would suggest you take a ‘Quick’ look at the link below:

http://www.dickshovel.com/lsa3.html

Then, you could also read “The Constitution,” side by side with the “Magna Carta,” which was written 574 years earlier. It will be an eye opener about the “Founding Lawyers”.

Then, finish with "High Religiosity and Societal Dysfunction in the United States during the First Decade of the Twenty-First Century"

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epjournal.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FEP08617657.pdf&ei=V0vvU9X6OobJsQT87oJ4&usg=AFQjCNFabWynDESoeK0ZMRTxTRsO7qGUUg&sig2=Z3r1r8nz5sgMAzz6kF-6Yg&bvm=bv.73231344,d.cWc

Wonder why I gave all these ‘goodies’ to you?

So you can become a more desirable, and knowledgeable person.

Good luck, cowboy!

Nice hat.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:03 | 5110411 Uncle Remus
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.

The Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves and King George is laughing.

And they keep trying to blame the earthquakes and rumbling sounds on fraking...

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:21 | 5110523 Ludwig Von
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And the EU (not Europe, that includes Russia sic), is running like a chicken without head in all this melodrama. Soon to become real drama. As a European I do not see the irony, just the utterly stupity of the Western leaders.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:20 | 5110774 Kirk2NCC1701
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@eb: "The Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves and King George is laughing."

Eb, King George wasn't just a Monarch.  He was England's Oligarch #1.  Feudalism is coming back (Feudalism 2.0), and these "armies" are Private, Feudal Armies (Mercs & Local Nutjobs) that are being inserted into the Regular Armed Forces

Their "hostile takeover" starts in boardrooms, then migrates into politics, then the Armed Forces, and finally bares its ravenous teeth when conducting a hostile takeover in the target country via said Armed Forces.  Often done is concert with or tacit approval of equally compromised regimes in "Ally" countries.

p.s. At least Monarchs were Single-Citizen Oligarchs, with allegiance only to their own nation/country.  Not the same can be said for modern Oligarchs, in many cases.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:14 | 5110130 alexcojones
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Okay Ukies,

We can send you the Ferguson PD, Mizzoo NG and the New Black Panthers & DHS as an extra bonus.

Good luck against the Separatists,

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:17 | 5110146 falak pema
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MIC becomes uber alles! 

THIS IS THE PAYOUT ON THE LIBYA/SYRIA/UKRAINE RIOT TRAIN that creates global mayhem. 

The West has nothing else to sell to the slave arbitraged third world --that sweats in its Foxconn body shops to make I-delusion products-- other than the MIC and the NSA information spooky state. 

Oh, and the financial IMF/CB bonanza of free money with a interest rate tag that makes you hooked for eternity.

"you belong to us under the MIC/IMF collective gun. So just give us --ad vitam eternam-- rights to you RM, your Oil and your slave labour." 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:14 | 5110149 q99x2
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BTFMCB - Buy the F'n mushroom clouds bitchez.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:18 | 5110160 Itchy and Scratchy
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Send them the Transgendered Navy Squeals!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:05 | 5110713 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Nothing's tougher than the dudes from the leather bars. Mercy, the enemy would be running full speed to not get caught by Frank and Joel.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:20 | 5110170 disabledvet
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"And so it begins." Wasn't this the war everyone wanted anyways?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:20 | 5110172 Dr. Engali
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The MIC has a real racket going on. Destabilize a government, sell the opposition weapons, once they overthrow the government sell them moar weapons (financed at a low low rate of course ) to hold on to power the wash, rinse, and repeat.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:25 | 5110204 Mrs. Cog
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These days it seems like everyone in the world is on one end or the other of U.S. weapons, and sometimes on both.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:51 | 5110547 falak pema
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Forgive my impertinence but it comes from tongue in cheek poetic licence : 

I hope Mr Cog has a nice ICbm in the house for your personal use.

Nothing like practising what Potus preaches. 

"Sometimes on both" would be kinky! 

We need what solace we can get in a mad world of metal tubes and electronically guided bazookas. 

As an avid reader of what Cog writes I just picked up this heading of his post which I thought very prescient : Control the language and you control the mind.

So to be a true contrarian to his theory on mind control I thought I should deconstruct that truism by liberating my language and thus freeing my mind.

I hope I was true to his motto : think out of the box! 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:06 | 5110714 Mrs. Cog
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Not to make him seem like Gaddafi but I've got Cog covered. ;-)

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:10 | 5110728 falak pema
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lol, well said! 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:28 | 5110220 highly debtful
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At this point it is safe to say that Washington's foreign policy is a complete shambles. I never thought that the US would become so criminally incompetent in this field. Yet here we are. Each time I think of that Nobel Peace Prize, it makes my stomach turn.

Only one thing to do now IMHO: just pull out. I really don't see any other solution anymore. Get out of every conflict zone asap and just try to keep the nuclear build-up in check, for the sake of humanity. Let them all sort it out amongst themselves. In the end that passive approach will result in far less casualties and extremism than when the US decides to intervene. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:29 | 5110227 Jano
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The jewish thugs n Kiev dream of the wepons.
They ignore the fact, that goim Ukraainians will not fight against Russians. maybe their fascsits Bandera horde from Lviv, but nobody else. The Jews-Oligarchs will lose on this point. Not on weaponry. Weaponry is of quality today as well. There is no equivalent to Grad and Smerst and to Dragunov sniper, cal. 7.62x54R

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:30 | 5110235 Flybyknight
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 "If we were to receive military equipment assistance, we could regain the territory in a relatively short period of time. That’s an obvious fact for us"

The Ukrainians might also need an army that was not just a few Nazis, off their heads on hatred, and conscripts not fighting for something they feel strongly about. Unlike the separatist fighters who are fervently committed and appear to be achieving  major successes despite far fewer men and armaments. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:33 | 5110251 Itchy and Scratchy
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Did they not get enough cookies from the lovely Asst Sec of State Victoria (FU) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:35 | 5110267 Spastica Rex
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Do tactical nukes still exist?

Send some of those.

All problems solved.

You ever hear of the neutron bomb? Destroys people - leaves buildings standing. Fits in a suitcase. It's so small, no one knows it's there until - BLAMMO. Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:43 | 5110308 joego1
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OBLAMMO! Kind of like Zorro! but leaves a big O where the bomb went off instead of a Z.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:36 | 5110277 MansaMusa
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Yeah boyeeee!  America be making that wartime money bitchezzz!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:39 | 5110291 Son of Captain Nemo
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Alas, there was little contemplation to what Russia's response would be if the Kremlin were to wake up one day with a brand new NATO member country along its border, when it is precisely the threat of even more NATO expansion that may explain Putin's behavior of the past 6 or so months.

"Explain Putin's behavior"?...

After more than 2,000 murdered (and counting), and over 5,000 wounded ethnic Ukrainian Russians -what should the label(s) of NATO inclusion even matter at this point?

The irreparable damage was permanent when Washington, London and Tel Aviv acted on this presentation  for it's annexation into the "offense" of the Western alliance two months later! 

NATO officially left it's defensive posture and charter after the Berlin Wall fell and we in the West all know it!!!!

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:47 | 5110332 joego1
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This world is really getting fucked up. The black swan air force is taxing to runway obliivion.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 15:55 | 5110368 Urban Redneck
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Turchynov is a loon if he actually thinks "EU or NATO membership would be a tangible guarantee against Russia"

One Russian newspaper reported that Putin, while speaking with Bush, “very transparently hinted that if Ukraine was accepted into NATO, it would cease to exist.

To borrow a term of art from a Nutty Neocon, it's an "existential" crisis.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:05 | 5110425 Agent P
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Why don't US police departments sell all their freely acquired military gear to these groups and use the cash to fund their pension plans?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 18:04 | 5110545 Circle of DNA
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The Talmudic degenerates of Kiev have plenty of advanced weaponry, so much so that every time Ukies get blasted by the resistance they drop more weapons behind them than what the rebels are capable of collecting. No amount of aid can save these morons from their own stupidity.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:48 | 5110646 SmittyinLA
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I thought Hezbollah & Hamas ran the show in Lebenon, so we're arming Hezbollah & Hamas now?

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 16:49 | 5110651 earleflorida
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"The Arms Boom"   

{(this is how it began in Iran and metastasized [mission creep?] with Iraq and Saudi's, etel, forever... 'keeping up with Joneses!')(What we're seeing today is just a MIC`'Loop-dee-Loop'?)}.

Quote:   "July 1969: US President Nixon stated  on the island of Guam that the USA was now concerned to encourage third-world states to assume greater responsibility for their own defence and that the USA would encourage this process. Although most immediately related to Vietnam, this new doctrine had implications for Iran, and the Shaw had the money, and occupied the strategic position to take full advantage of the opportunity. It came three later {(*the Nixon Shock 8/1971)(Iran was fast becoming a second-world nation)}. 

1972 onwards:  Iran was able to enter quite a new dimension of army purchases as a result of two further events;  in May 1972 President Nixon visited Tehran, and in a secret agreement, unparalleled in the USA's relations with any other non-industrialized country, agreed to sell Iran any conventional weapons it required. In particular he agreed to provide Iran with F-14 and F-15 combat aircraft, the most advanced then in existencez;  late 1973 the OPEC states raised the price of oil five times, Iran's oil revenues thereby multiplied, and with them its capacity to purchase weapons. These two-events unleashed the largest arms sales boom in history.

In 1972-76 Iran became the largest single purchaser of US arms in the world with $10.4 billion in expenditures. The grand total from 1970- 83 was estimated at $18.5 billion (of course Iraq was worried, as were all the Arab Nations). By 1978 Iran was considered to have twice the number of soldiers, arms and armament of the British Army. {(** as a side note, the Iranian's also purchased weapons from North Korea via China for ~$1.4 billion as documented... during this same span of time. Period!)(*** the technical expertise and manpower from Iran was woefully inadequate to take on such vast procurements regarding their airforce, navy, and army?)}" end excerpted Quotes.  pgs 93-95 c.1979  Fred Halliday    "Iran: Dictatorship and Development  (2nd Edition) 

 {(****Please realize that what follows shortly is the longest war in contemporary Middle-Eastern history between crazy Saddam [realize that Saddam was doing his fair-share of MIC purchases] and the new Shaw of Iran which lasted through 1980- 1988. The Iran/ Iraq War that ended in a stalemate with neither side claiming victory,... but a huge victory for the MIC's!!!)}     

(*...**...*** jmo) Ps. I feel this adds some flavor to the article and the exceptionalist MIC accomodations for perpetual war in the name of freedom?!?

thankyou Tyler  

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:26 | 5110804 22winmag
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Welfare for warfare... how typical.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 17:56 | 5110958 NoWayJose
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The US already knows that the Ukies took down MH17. No way does the US give aid to the Ukies only to have the truth about MH17 leak out.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 18:03 | 5110993 jacship
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Nato's just fallin all over itself to get in Ukraine

 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 18:32 | 5111173 king leon
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You can arm the Ukraine Zio-Nazis with all the 'Hi-Tech' you want but the difference is, they have Blackwater and the rebels have Spetsnaz and the Zio's have been clubbed like  baby Seals, there is now infighting in Kiev among the political parties. Their best forces have been routed and humiliated despite being armed by Poland. 

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 20:32 | 5111973 Wahooo
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Yup, gotta believe that if the Ukes are asking for that kind of firepower, they're about to fold.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 19:10 | 5111388 Rootin' for Putin
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So? arm the Ukraine.  I will see how high i can count before China supplies Donbass.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 19:13 | 5111419 roadhazard
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That North Korean boy will want some too, I bet.

Mon, 08/18/2014 - 20:51 | 5112052 Hellone
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I aint worried once ISIS comes here which they will me and the whitey goyim will be prepared for a Muslim ground assault! However if .gov gives them air support for undoubtedly .gov will be on there side we would have to run to the Ivan's for anti aircraft which they have the best of anyway...but if .gov pull out the space based weapons well then we lay seige to the underground illustrious cities and become mole people hedge accordingly!

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