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ISIS Beheads Captured American Journalist, Threatens To Kill Another
An American journalist, James Foley who was previously held captive by pro-Gaddafi forces for six weeks in Libya, was captured again in 2012 in Syria by - at the time 'unidentified' gunmen - which we now know was ISIS. James Foley - a freelance reporter from Boston - was kidnapped Thanksgiving Day 2012. We now know the sad ending of this young man's life. In the following shocking clip just released from ISIS, Foley explains - at the point of a blade - "I call on my friends, family members and loved ones to rise up against my real killers, the U.S. government" - and is then gruesomely beheaded. In the last few minutes, the captor shows another poor soul.
James Foley in 2012
And the gruesome clip (fwd to 2:00 for Foley's speech) - a warning - at the end, this clip is not for the faint of heart.
Foley's monologue, as delivered under duress:
I call on my friends, family, and loved ones to rise up against my real killers, the US government. For what will happen to me is only a result of their complacency and criminality.
My message to my beloved parents, save me some dignity, and don't accept some meagre compensation, for my death, from the same people who effectively hit the last nail in my coffin with their recent aerial campaign in Iraq.
I call on my brother John, who is a member of the US air force. Think about what you are doing, think about the lives you destroy, including those of your own family. I call on you John, think about who made the decision to bomb Iraq recently and kill those people, whoever they may have been. Think John, who did they really kill? And did they think about me, you, our family when they made that decision?
I died that day John, when your colleagues dropped that bomb on those people they signed my death certificate. I wish I had more time. I wish I could have the hope of freedom and seeing my family once again. But that ship has sailed. I guess all in all I wish I wasn't American.
And at the very end, ISIS threatens to kill another journalist, Steven Sotloff
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As was pointed out ISIS appealed to the blacks of Ferguson to get down with their brothers in ISIS. What Whites do not understand is that they are a perilous minority in a world that HATES them with a GENOCIDAL hate. As an example here is ISIS showing its true colors, no pun intended, check the photos out of the little girls TRAGIC:
‘ISIS Want to Impregnate Yazidi Women and Smash Our Blond Bloodline’: Fears Grow for the 300 Women Kidnapped from Sinjar
"Addressing the kidnapping, Adnan Kochar, chairman of the Kurdish Cultural Centre in London, told MailOnline: ‘The Kurds and Yazidis are originally Aryans. But because the Yazidis are such a closed community they have retained a fairer complexion, blonder hair and bluer eyes. They don’t marry non-Yazidis.'
And who really cares about these Aryans to use the Daily Mail's term, or the Aryans of Zimbabwe and so on around the world or US here in the USA, answer NOBODY, but we, ourselves, better start and SOON.
I hope ISIS captures Shawn Hannity, any reporter from CNN,NBC,CBS - and O Reilly too.
Fake-conservative traitorous talking heads like Hannity and O'Reilly deserve a fate worse than any ISIS can dish out.
Vote for Hitlery?
Winning the hearts and minds to get the region carpet bombed for another 10 years. Somehow, I don't think the locals are behind this advertisement.
Just look at this loon
McCain does the robot dancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yYY0rzrJ7Po
ISIS is evil. This will go on for a long time and be very costly. Things have deteriorated to the point that people in American are using every opportunity to take their eyes off what is happening in Iraq, the country has become a train wreck and is rapidly morphing into a failed State. It is often unwise to take your eyes off a problem for long because when you look back you might find that things have gone horribly wrong, this is the case in Iraq and Syria.
It is amazing so many people don't have a clue as to what is going on. Recently the group called ISIS shocked much of the world by swiftly capturing Mosul in an offensive that allowed the group to take control of major parts of northern and western Iraq. On June 29, 2014 the Islamist militants declared an Islamic "caliphate" in an area straddling Iraq and Syria. More details on the dire situation in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/islamic-state-of-iraq-and-levant....
"It is amazing so many people don't have a clue as to what is going on."
Is that right. And what makes you think that is even the case? See the first step toward personal madness is when it seems you know everything and everyone else is a mind-controlled puppet can't see the truth because they don't agree with you, who have seen God and have ultimate wisdom, or some other fuck-tarded-ness.
Got a handle on it, m'kay? Relax. Play some bingo.
...
A good blog doesn't need to be pimped on ZH as you so shamelessly do, ad nauseum. Please fulfill your unmet needs for attention and approval, elsewhere.
Thanks.
Send Dick Cheney and his Neocon pals to Mosul and let them reap what they sowed......
Not the black flag,
The Black Death,
will be the Black Swan....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729046/Germany-Ebola-scare-Nige...
.
Call me when they get to Vichy DC...
I believe in my heart the resistance will get to Vichy DC long before ISIS does.
A successful Von Stauffenberg event would also do the trick.
I wonder if this journalist had a "Coexist" bumper sticker?
It'd be ironic if it said, Keep Calm and Don't Lose Your Head.
American journalists stopped using their heads years ago and the CIA knows it. ISIS is just pissed because Centcom blew up their only Humvee yesterday and the only meat puppets they had on hand were second rate CIA agents posing as journalists.
OCCUPY THE CIA - OCCUPY EVERYTHING
The US trained and armed ISIS to overthrow Assad. Bengahzi, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Egypt , all great victories for American foreign policy!
Mission accomplished!
West is going insane
The beast who performed beheading had british accent
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/american-journalist-james-foley-...
The Brits will be able to tell within a very small geographical area where in the UK the executioner was raised by analysis of his accent. If English was the executioner's second language they will be able to tell that also and what is his first language.
Indeed, the dialect will provide a radius. If he's a actor, it will be hard pressed to identify him.
Why do all these beheading videos never show the actual beheading? No blood as he starts to cut. Orange prison suit? US army issue? Another hoax. Yawn.
A Langley & Co. production.
I have to say I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
I am generally not for further intervention in Iraq, but I believe this crime deserves some swift retribution. Find out who this dude in black is and then send in the spec ops boys to pay him and a few of his buddies, or family, a little night time visit. Feed the remains to the pigs snatch style and send them a nice video of the whole proceeding.
Call me crazy but I'm not buying it.
This guy is way too calm and far too composed for someone facing the blade. I would think he'd be sobbing his eyes out. And why cooperate with them at all? What will it change?
The LiveLeak video doesn't show blood spurting out, and we never hear him scream, do we? No, the scene fades out, then fades back in to show a body with a head afterwards. Hollywood isn't far from me and they sure can make things appear realistic when they want to...
Am I the only one here who suspects this is a production made to rouse Americans to the point where they beg for more war?
scam and agiprop, agreed.
I saw a lot of videos like this one at one time.
Then had to go pick up the bodies.
The guy was captive for a long, long time.
When the will to live is gone, an execution looks like a couple minutes of pain followed by sweet relief.
I suspect it is real.
i say Nuke Raqqa.
Obama the coward - who will spy on Americans and send Holder and the FBI Guard to Missouri - but Obama can't find and kill a bunch of terrorists that he helped fund?
something is wrong here.
Is the video real? No disrespect intended. The version I saw shows the ISIS guy appearing to saw away on the neck. Then it stops and next you see is a head on the back of his body. There was no video of him dying. Almost like a movie where they cut to the next seen and leave the bad part to your imagination. I am not meaing to be morbid. The timing of this video is suspect because I know our government loves propaganda to support their initiatives. It just looks acted and photo shopped. THOUGHTS????????
Nothing to add. It's so obviously, blatantly fake and so poorly done, it's ridiculous. It would look more real if it were played by Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd.
DONT put this past CIA or MOSSAD operatives in ISIS-they are itching to stir up American horror to get us to plead for WW3-and OUR tax dollars at WAR
REMEMBER Israel was photoshopping Gaza damage to make it look like missile damage in Jerusulem.......human garbage.....(and no tired, over-used whines of 'anti-Semitic' -that ship has already sailed long ago and is sinking)
Iraq, 25 years later
$3 Trillion wasted (that we know of)
5,000 US Servicemen killed
up to 1 Million Iraqi killed
and all for nothing....just LIES fabricated by the Straussian NeoCON-artists
human race is not worth a bucket of spit
i call fake social media propaganda video;
not admissible, hearsay and unauthenticated,
staged and photo shopped till proven otherwise.
"Zionist created Isis"
What a total bullshit. This statement assumes the following:
Jews/American Jews are in control of the world. This is not even close to being true. The truth is there are conflicting forces in the world. Only an American who has not travelled outside the USA could ever hold this sort of view.
America does NOT control the Middle East anymore, It is losing control over Israel as well, it certainly does NOT control China.
America is only ONE force in the world. Others are China, ISLAM (with ISIS), Russia, and Europe (still swayed by US).
THE USA is NOT in control anymore, wake up you Zionist fantacists. Islam wants to crush the Zionist and/or Americans, it never was an ZIONIST creation. Only an American fool would think is such a manner. Americans on ZH are so centered on America, that they DONT understand that there is a world without America/Zion, and these people (like Islam) will want you Americans KILLED and OUT OF THE GAME.
I have lived in the USA, North Europe and England, but the most self-centered people were in America where they thought that the world revolved around the USA. Wake up asshole.
My friend finally an intelligent comment
Israel is in the frontage of islamic fundamental terror.
It is facing terror across all its borders- from Hizbullaw- and Isis in the north
to El Qaida and Hamas in it's south borders
Israel has been handling brutal terror since it was established.
People here that use the word Zionists are either muslims that hate israel or antisemitic .
to call someone Zionist is like calling a black Afro American =Nigro
we buit this city how about eye just call you a pale pink polish jew from the ghetto made good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqNLrOd_SY
I think what you're stating is correct. What you see here in the way of comments on ZH and ther forums is the obvious pissed-off nature of Americans when it comes to the Middle East.
Fuck the Middle East. Fuck all your religions. Fuck all your theories of how we got to this point. What a bunch of petty people you have all become.
Talk about Americans and how naive we are to the world? Screw that: Have you ever thought we don't really care? We're not naive; we are just tired of hearing about all of you. ALL OF YOU.
If anyone with a brain was in charge of any fixture of government in the USA, we would have solved this mess FOR YOU a long time ago: No money and fight it the fuck out. Period. End of story.
We know the history from before Christ to before WWII. We're not ignorant. Neither God nor Allah nor any other deity ever said that a particular piece of sand was worth destoying the entire world and world peace. I trust whoever may be "up there" looks upon our behavior with disgust and amazement.
Remember that a new generation is coming to power in the USA. It may not be much smarter than the current one but the attitudes are certainly different.
In summary:
- Screw the banks
- Screw the Fed
- Screw Hollywood
- Screw the Media
- Screw the religious bullshit
- Screw the USA State Department
- Screw all you mother fuckers.
You forgot the Jesuits.
I am officially putting you down as undecieded!
are you sayin israel did this then rough trader your words are all over the shop.
do i up tick or down tick are you a proud jew or a self hater?
For someone who was about to get executed, his voice patterns were very calm.
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.0001 of a fuck given about this so called journalist. Got a list of 100 others for ISIS to prune.
The killer sounds like Sacha Baron Cohen.
(Pointing knife at camera): I'm coming for you, Ricky Bobby!
Return the favor and capture ISIS members and feed them to hungry sharks and wild boars. Plenty of hungry wild creatures to consume them. Not what they envision so they can have their virgins.
I don't know not much of a British accent ( or muslim brit accent), looks to me unless proven that this is not real, the guy making a statement before getting killed in such a composed way, just looks strange.
It looks strange because it's fake.
It's all 100% Langley.
What kind of demented fuck pardons the people about to saw his goddamned stupid head off???????????????
Yeah, kind of like what kind of demented fuck forgives the people who are about to crucify him?
the guy who read out the closing and did the beheading has a south London accent
edit just saw the mirror link above. Lewisham / Woolwich / Charlton area it sounds to me
Fake!
Justification for American bombing.
Nothing to see here, move on.
Cutting someone's head off with a pocket knife is supposed to make me feel afraid?
What, like that is worse than cancer?
I, you, they, and everyone else is going to die anyway. It is all a matter of timing.
The cruelty is to the journalist's loved ones. What was his crime? Being born in the wrong place? Having the wrong ideas?
The cruelty makes me feel contempt for ISIS' humanity.
These are men who believe that fear, cruelty, and barbaric behavior are the path to greatness.
Next they will be eating the flesh of those they kill.
I never thought I could feel there was a justification for Nazi-style ovens. But there is.
Go home ISIS. While you still have one. If your whole civilization were cauterized away from existence no one would miss it.
I don't want these assholes to go home. ISIS/ISIL combatants have homes in the US, UK, France, Germany, etc. etc. Let them stay where they are and die in place.
tanks a lot gcjohn your words speeks volumns and it turned ups to 12
yes sir eyes agree wid you sir youse sounds like youse in full cuntrol of dere facts on dere ground.
thanks to peeple like youse we simpull pig farmers likes meselfs can sleeps better knowing clevers folk like youse is watchin are backs.
israel and ameriga should stands firm an not be cow towed by events no sir.
keep up der fight isaac and tanks for your gaza kill stat testi culls.
i dontes trust obarme he only gave israel 700 million dollars dis month how can we expect israel to live wid such small amounts of monies for depleted uranium bombs and laser weapons idiots on here haves nose idea how mush a plasma energy weapon cost.
the talmud and mossad are the only ones who can protect ameriga now moshe.
i agree wid you about a new pearle harbours i hope it not bad like that or a new uss liberty if youse gets me drifts
gchqjohns keep dancin der mossad shuffle and tanks : )
A slip of the tongue by a former mossad agent about the london bombingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX4nmxJdddU
Hello Tony, you Muhammed paedophile ass-licker.
Have a good day with your zionist obsession.
rough trader sounds like the name from a kosher gay hook up forum member.
you gotta do better than dat my friend.
i love you i am at this moment sending you love vibes your soul maybe damned to satanic hell but folks like myself can still help the damned.
i love you but try to bite the end of my penis off and suck the blood as per talmudic doctrine and i will have to commit a singular holocaust.
i promise it will not be a hoax : )
Few spelling mistakes in there Tony, perhaps splashing out on a dictionary might help :)
You always give me a laugh.
Isaac? Who's that?
Gaza? What does that have to do with the beheading?
Are you saing that this journalist was shooting rockets into GAZA in between note -taking?
Pearl harbor? This journalist looks like he is maybe 35. His father probably wasn't even born when Pearl Harbor happened.
Mossad shuffle?
I get that you don't like jews.
I don't like sharks.
Some people don't like heights.
Some don't like spiders.
But they don't presume tha tthe spiders control the world by supernatural means and secretly pull all the strings.
The sharks on the other hand...
Ever go to the movies and see stuff like this?... It looks real, doesn't it.
Why is this guy so calm?
You would see blood spurting out from the very first cut.
FAKE.
Religion of Peace strikes again
How peaceful would you be after being bombed for 13 years?
The religion of peace has been around longer than 13 years.
Iraq never harmed or threatened to harm the US yet you've been attacking them since 1991. Do you really expect them to love you for that? Really?
I know, Saddam was just a stand up guy. So what is your solution?
What's it to you what Saddam was or wasn't? Not your president, not your country. GTFO of Iraq, enough damage has been done. Bombing them again isn't going to solve anything.
So, we just leave Iraq and all is good? No suicide bombers in the West? Excellent, where do I sign?
You go over there then on your own dime with your own gear and shoot them Ay-rabs.
YEA!
Suicide bombers aren't your problem, that comes from all those tribal best friends USSA got crawling around in her innards.
Yep, about 1990 years, and millions of beheadings, pikings, and eviscerations.
If they were REALLY brave, The one with the knife wouldn't be covering his face.
Some Identity to Hide?
Can't have our CIA agent's identity revealed....
Yeah he's probably an anglo-saxin Academy grad from over here in the states. Probably aced his SATs and scored high on ASVAB and that's why the CIA recruited him for such an important job in keeping the country safe.
I would like to see all of the US Militarized Police and Sheriffs, pack up their gear and kit and deploy to Iraq to fight the ISIS. Problems solved!
yes but since you are low level paid israeli hack sack you have a dog in this fight moshe.
i have a better idea flatfoot go fight them yourself you cowardly cunt you are a weak bitch expecting other folks do do the killing for satanic zionists.
what a sack of kosher puss you are.
stop talkin do something.
even if you joined the idf you would not be allowed to fight these fake isis fuckers cos they are as kosher as you are moses
Was up my antisemitic low life friend?
Zionists,Kosher, Moshe> Hasbara?
these are the only words you know?
what do i expect from you?
A survey i read about peopele that are antisemitic showed that most of them have a below average IQ....and most of the are quite poor(economically)
I thought you are a bit smarter...and a realy hope you are poor
Always the deep thinker Tony :)
It is always someone else's fault. ISIS playing victim. Sounds like another group in Turd Ferguson.
ISIS, the new tool of western intelligence, financed, trained and equipped by qatar, turkey and saudi-arabia; but the stringpullers sit in western countries. Would not wonder if we get a new and bigger/better 9/11 someday cause the sheeple begin to think too much.
Seen so many republicans joining hands with democrats saying, "we got to bomb them brown turds and make america free cuz they comin over here to attack our walmarts n shit"
Walmart needs the sales!
Hey IS is nothing to be concerned about. Just a few Muslims getting a little overexcited about all the shit the west been heaping on them for the past few decades. They'll get over it once they finish blowing everything up. So the west might have helped start them up and provide a little justification for their uncompromising rage. Hang in there, our uncompromising rage against them will soon be there (kind of like how the Palestinians/Israeli's do it) and we'll have to get up from behind the keyboard and teevee and go get involved in some bloodthirsty way. In any event I'm sure the Rottenchilds will be pleased.
Well by golly we better send our boys over there to bomb some chilruns and shoot up them Ay-Rabs and wooo hooo hoot and holler, drink beer and piss on graves.
Toby Keith Mofo!
America!!
Who don't like a proper lynchin'?
I would guess the PM cancelled his vacation, not because they were concerned the executioner was some unknown Brit or Commonwealth resident, but because they know exactly who the executioner is.
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE. Not even close. It was comical how fake it was. Shame on the family for being willing participants.
We won't see that on the 5 o'clock news. I watched Nick Berg's beheading 10 years ago, I'll pass this time. Mr. Berg's murderers used a 12 in knife and sawed his head off at his neck. Those men act this way because they are full of hate and they serve Allah/Satan. All during the war in Iraq our media would report about their holy city, or holy mosque, holy cemetery, holy quran. BS, there is nothing holy about islam. Let the fires burn in the Middle East, islam killing islam, it's what they know best. They love death, just stand back and let it burn.
I would help Assad in Syria though, but for some reason the USA wants him out. I guess it just helps to destabilize the whole region, must be good for our GDP.
"...For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."
Do you actually believe that?
For the few (?) who may read my words: I share because I have been reading (following) ZH’s stuff for a long time. I often fact check some of the writings to qualify what I “want to know”. Yes… a Bias here exists, but I’m o.k. with that. I tell others to check ZH out, and when I explain the “blog” (I call it) I say some smart dudes (financially schooled in global economics) participate and contribute. Yes, articulate and obviously knowing folks. Stuff I never learned anywhere else but here. My eyes are more wide open today than ever. I don’t like what I see, yet it helps me appreciate more the good that I see. Forget money, money only buys gas for the car if your into traveling around town. The real issue for has become the crazy amount of people (all of my neighbors) and many others I come across are absolutely “clueless” and “a sleep”. Absolutely no semblance as to why they get to have the routines they do. Couch to car seat while unknowingly supporting the conglomeration of you city, state, country, world etc. Evil exists boys and girls. Do your best to recognize it and protect yourself and family against it. Getting hit (run over) by a truck 20 minutes from now could happen (exact odds available, if you are so inclined). If your parents instilled beauty in your heart and you instilled like in others you have done our specie well. If you are dirt, dirt is where (and what) you will end up. Perpetual love is our mission, love to mean helping others. James Foley (instilled love) will live on longer than pretty much all of us.
Whats with all the orange jump-suits. very strange... :)
It's the new black!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b00_1408017222
anyone still believe in gods ?
when you see that, there is no possible discution, whatever happened before, who ever gave em money, or asked em anything., cia or not cia, usa or not usa, i dont give a fuck.
when you see this, only one way to solve the problem : THEY MUST DIE.
we are in mother fucking 2014. i prefer be nuked by any war than live near this animals just because my car need oil,
i prefer burn my own car & buy bicycle instead of letting those guys alive just because we need their ressources.
this is a shame. at this point this is worst to see this on internet todays than paper press relating nazi gaz chambers.
i mean, what the fuck are we doin on earth to let this kind of behavior ...
All this proves is that evil is real. Nuke the whole from orbit. Give anyone who wants out 30 days to leave. Turn the whole place to glass.
Poor jihadists are frustrated because the western cowards sling missiles at them from the air, so they have to settle for executing daredevils. It's time for boots on the ground, America. 50,000 men should do the trick.
no man on ground.
push red boutton on the console.
500mt
repeat operation until you beat guiness book biggest lake worldwide
Only because it has worked so well so far!
send more MSM journalists .....
send obumbler, holder, pelosi, reid... the black congressional caucus and all LIBTARDS... a good start
Send in the clowns!
Are you aware that it is BOTH parties that are owned by Big Money?
Religion is a general threat to everyone on the planet. Islam is just the most extreme version of religion that we face as a serious threat at this point in history.
Are we ready yet to confront Islam? No. Until we bring Reason to the fight we cannot fight.
Are Christians and other coreligionists foiling a proper debate about the threat of Islam (and religion)? Yes!
The religious do this by excluding from the debate the very arguments against organized religion that were so important in the 17th and 18th centuries. At their managerial levels, the racket that is religion finds solidarity on their desire for theocracy even when the threat is as great as it is today.
Religion calls on truths that no one can lay claim to and then inevitably over reaches to attempt to govern society. It is like clockwork.
It has been a very long time in the West since the enlightenment stirred the embers of free expression and called for the supremacy of Reason over Faith. The great thinkers of this era from Thomas Paine to Thomas Jefferson to Voltaire are just empty names to most people including those who claim to champion American values or Western values. So how can we in the West hope to fight back even on our own soil?
Watch C-Span and you will see members of the State department of the USA fail to mention ANY of the bedrock, core principles of the Republic. It is as if the Constitution of the USA was just random ideas without a basis in philosophical principles. Is the message of Thomas Paine "politically incorrect" or something? How can these bozos have gotten the job? There is certainly a wisdom deficit.
And more importantly, how can we win the war of ideas against Islam if we don't show up to the debate?
Will the West and in particular, Europe, recall the millions who were killed over the last 500 years by religious division and religious tyranny in time so that we can halt the re-introduction of fervent Islamists into the realm? Charles Martel? ANYONE!?
The right to religious identity was linked directly to the separation of church from state. It is a bedrock principle and underlies the concept of pluralism and democracy. Please ask your government how it is that the USA has allied itself with the House of Saud, or Israel for that matter, and any other country that declares a state religion and creates laws to discriminate against other religions?
For it is a BETRAYAL of what America and the West fought against 300 years ago!
Do you believe that?
I believe the first line:
Religion is a general threat to everyone on the planet.
Really?
Religion poisons everything.
R u sure it ain't the polictics of pretending to be religious?
I guess you need to ask James Foley. Do you think he was trying to steal an oil drum?
Both these things can be simultaneously true:
1) The West Will Go To War and subvert Governments in order to maintain the flow of oil.
2) Islam has an agenda entailing world domination and an eventual world-wide political state based on the Koran.
And both have a very limited time line!
Oil, yes.
End of oil = end of Muslim threat hysteria! Honest Injun!
I wish that were true. Sadly, it is not true. We imported their religion to all parts of the civilized world and we have no plan to assert our own values and philosophical position in opposition to theirs.
That was my entire argument several posts earlier.
When our Crapitalist system generates losers and destitute masses then Islam is there to recruit them. Don't believe it? Watch as Imam's move into Fergusson, MO. Yes, they will swoop in on the ignorant and down trodden and offer a solution the idiots will find irresistible.
The poor folks of Fergusson will be presented with a chance to be a part of some greater cause or to just be society's refuse. Which do you think they will choose?
You will be regretting that there was no "socialist labor movement" in this country to have offset the poison of religion before not too much longer.
'Socialist Labor Movement?' They hollowed out Amerika & all the unions dues are off-shore now! Only Public Service Unions left now ...and the best of luck payin' for them! And not to worry - 'socialist' religion has been in major decline in the U.S. for the last 30 years. They are no longer a factor and their voting block can't even elect a President. You will need to find someone else to blame or wait until the oil runs out! Either or!
"... 'socialist' religion has been in major decline in the U.S. for the last 30 years"
That makes my point. Thank you. Religion fills the vacuum and Islam has the appeal of being associated with the underdogs.
We will lament the days of humanist social proselytizing in the work place and the days of the labor unions now long gone just as we, today, miss the Soviets in Afghanistan. In both the case of the Soviets and Islam, the best weapons are the expressing of universal human rights, the rights of women, the rights of minorities and the acceptance of the individual's rights to free expression and belief.
Which part do you doubt?
Religion has ZIP to do with any of this! You'll see just as soon as the oil run out!
"The right to religious identity was linked directly to the separation of church from state".
No, the first amendment states; "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
You and or 300 million people do not have the right to take this away from anyone. You fail to see that yours is an absolutist position as well. In fact, closer to radical Islam you just haven't started beheading people yet. 'Believe as you want just so long as I don't see it'. Keep your religion at home inside where no one can see it and better not teach your children religious values. Just another seeking to control someone else. All violations of our first amendment rights.
As a long time atheist, I have a choice. I can believe in a sky wizard or not. I do not, but take the choice from those that do believe and you've also taken that choice from me. Just another authoritarian.
Neo-con statists coming out of the woodwork to post on ZH today.
Got to kill those brown guys! Troops in Iraq now! DOD spending stimulus!
Muh freedoms
Any white man that goes over to that hell hole without a gun deserves what he gets.
I guess he wrote an article that the CIA didn't like. I'm sure ISIS gets a bonus for that.
I see the world is now gonna blow a few trillion on supporting the Kurds! That should work out good!
"Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires." James 1
Notice the word desires not demands. God wants all people to be saved but loves us enough to give us the freedom to choose.
"Now choose life, so that you and your children may live..." Deut 30
There are only two places to go after death, with God or separation from God. If you don't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ you are on the broad road to destruction. The Good News is that if we're still walking this world we can get on the right path, there's still hope.
So choose life.
Hun? Wat he said?
Clearly, you were born yesterday and never opened a history book. Only the defeat of religious absolutism, a process that took CENTURIES (motherfucker!!) allows you to now claim "freedom" of worship or not to worship.
What a shit you are to so blithely overlook that.
The truth is there is NOTHING after death and anyone who claims to KNOW different is a liar and a charlatan.
That said, yes, believe what ever the hell you want. Just keep it out of my life and my government.
Geeeez......and here I thought it was only 'cause of the oil? Who wudda thunk it?
Itchy, since religion is all bullshit made from pure imagination it serves as a great tool of those who are aware of the overall con-job that is religion. You can get people to do just about anything with the proper religious justification. That is why it is so dangerous.
That is why we need to arm our kids against the threat of Faith. And this is what all religionists oppose.
That Catholic or Babtist Church down the block is the Trojan horse for Islam.
Ya' mean just like Global Warming too?
"Babbletist"
Enjoy yur hysteria paralysis!
How do you know there is NOTHING after death?
It seems to me that your claim of supernatural knowledge is equally as suspicious as his.
With one difference.
His has a hopeful ending.
U 4got the 72 virgins!
What value do virgins have in the SPIRIT world???
i know, I know.
Always the joy-killer.
It is up to those who place claims of something to defend them. Negatives can not be proven. That is really basic stuff.
I say there is nothing.
You say there is something. The burden of proof is on YOU.
Rock, paper, scizzors would settle it once and for all!
Disagree. Saying there is nothing IS something ( just a different something). You refute your own position.
People -- what have you done --
locked Him in His golden cage.
Made Him bend to your religion --
Him resurrected from the grave.
He is the god of nothing --
which is all that you can see.
You are the god of everything --
He's inside you and me.
So lean upon Him gently
and don't call on Him to save you
from your social graces
and the sins you used to waive.
The Jewish, Christian, Muslim
Is waiting to be free.
Each claiming just a part of Him
And so a part of me.
And the graven image Catholic
with His plastic crucifix --
he's got him fixed --
confuses me as to who and where and why --
as to how he gets his kicks.
Confessing to the endless sin --
the endless whining sounds.
You'll be praying till next Thursday to
all the gods that you can count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaqG4SgTWqc
Amen + 1000
Why aren't our politicians intervening? I think a good intervention process would be exchanging captives. I think exchanging politicians for current captives would be a positive program. For recent scheduled beheadings send Hillary and Bill. Joe Biden and his kid and Harry Reid and his kid. For general torture start with congress and go right through senate to Judicial to executive branch. For draw and quartering send Oboner after his golf game.
It sure wouldn't hurt a bit!
The American Pledge of Allegiance:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation *under God*, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Consider this. A pledge of allegiance is a religious undertaking.
This particular insult to the US Constitution was implemented by Congress in 1942. Apparently, 150 years is all it takes for a great republic to submit itself to the relentless drive of religionists.
"Under God" was added to the original pledge in 1954! Mother fuckers!
Wiki:
President Eisenhower had been baptized a Presbyterian very recently, just a year before. He responded enthusiastically to Docherty (regarding the insertion of "Under God") in a conversation following the service.
Eisenhower acted on his suggestion the next day and on February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. Congress passed the necessary legislation and Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954. Eisenhower stated:
"From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural school house, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty.... In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource, in peace or in war."
The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a Joint Resolution of Congress amending §4 of the Flag Code enacted in 1942.
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So, we let a mediocre General insert religion into our wisely declared separation of church and state all because we thought children might become socialists? Are you fucking kidding me?
Jeebus wept!
What separation of Church and State would that be?
As far as I know there is none.
There is a ban on religious tests for political office. And there is a ban on state-sponsored religion.
Where did you get the 'Separation of Church and State' thing?
HINT: It was in a letter between founders.
Say what you are trying to say, gcjohn. Be brave!
If you are saying that you think that religion is a part of our government system, then say it.
And then I will come ofter you, of course and humiliate you...that is what I do. But bravely state your position.
You two were meant for eachother!
The state is your religion now.
Oh, I thought I was swearing to the Flag? Shit. It gets so confusing with all this hocus pocus.
So let me get this straight. ISIS = CIA Langley black ops asset kills US journalist
Are we dumb enough to fall for it again to justify continue presence there. All the US do is destruction.
Get those mofo out of DC. These mofo fascist are killing the nation. Get those useless faggots out of congress too.
Gettin' a little closer to the truth here!
ISIS is heavily recruiting in India. It isn't being reported but there are some major battles going on in Indian that make Ferguson look like a town hall meeting. Last week they had 15,000 muslims destroy all of the major Sihk temples in one of their cities.
"India? who gives a fuck about India" is what some of you hicks will say. ISIS in India? This doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize that already about 14% of the Indian population are muslim (14% x 1 billion = 140 million muslims. (not all Mulsims went to Paki during the partition.) Let's say 10% go radical. 10% X 140 million. There's a manpower pool of 14 million. of those 14 million let's say of those only 1% can really man up and join ISIS. 14 million x 1% = 140K
that's an army of 140,000 men right there.
You guys haven't a fucking scooby do of what is brewing under the surface with ISIS. They are very effective in targeting the young, the jobless, the aimless and those who have been disenfranchised by their societies (either in the Middle East or in the US/UK/France). They have a fucking Social Media and PR machine that is probably more effective than the GOP media machine.
Conspiracy is fun to play with, but in this case Ocam's Razor applies: the simplest answer is the best answer. ISIS are a Radical Islamic Zombie Army that is using the Koran has a cook book to serve man.