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Russia Prepares Further Retaliation To West's "Destructive Sanctions"
If the West continues its "destructive sanction policy," Kremlin spokesman Dmirty Peskov said Moscow will deploy additional 'protective' measures. Peskov warned, "we have said several times that Russia is not a fan of speaking in terms of sanctions and has not been an initiator. But if our partners continue their non-constructive and even destructive practices, then additional measures will be developed." Of course, this escalation is merely pent-up de-escalation and therefore good reason to buy US stocks, except bonds seem a little concerned this morning that Putin's blowback will dent global growth further.
Moscow will consider additional protective measures if the West continues its destructive sanction policy, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday.
"Different variants are being developed. We have said several times that Russia is not a fan of speaking in terms of sanctions and has not been an initiator. But if our partners continue their non-constructive and even destructive practices, then additional measures will be developed," Peskov said.
The first round of sanctions against Russia was implemented by the United States and the European Union back in March as a response to Crimea’s reunification with Russia following a referendum. As the Ukrainian crisis escalated, Switzerland, Canada, Australia and Japan gave in to US pressure and drew up their own sanctions.
In response to Western sanctions, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed an order on economic measures to protect the country’s security. The decree went into effect on August 7 and banned the imports of agricultural and food products from the countries that had imposed sanctions on Russia for one year. The list of banned products includes meat, poultry, fish, seafood, milk, dairy products, fruits and vegetables.
Moscow said earlier it was ready to review the terms of its import restrictions if its Western partners showed a commitment to dialogue.
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The response so far is Treasuries are rallying and stocks holding gains...
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Comrade Putin:
Why bother trying to destroy the West? They have Western Politicians...who already do a first-rate job of it.
"If you sit by the river long enough, you will see the body of your enemy float by".
Does that include ex-wives?
Karma is an Ukrainian bitch
Optimist.
My x is a drunk. Go long alcohol companies, trust me.
Didn't you see the Wizard of OZ? Evil witches dissolve in water.
Russia is pushing it's allies to develop their own food supply including "fancy grade A" stuff. Smart! The Sochi Olympic were amazing, no matter the US Jew media clowns who can't fucking ski anyways talking toilets. Russia is on the rise and it's food will only get better. Me thinks a good time to get that way and open a food company or brewery, probably get some backing.
Their stance against GMO is a refreshing change as well. They have plenty of evidence as to what happens when the people start eating that crap. We have to keep the Russian chicks hot!
They are also into small organic farms http://naturalsociety.com/russians-prove-small-scale-organic-can-feed-wo...
They are now buying from Israel all the produce that the EU is boycotting from Israel. http://www.haaretz.com/business/1.610429
Lots of de-escalation going on...... More like Putin is telling Big "O" to eat de-ez nutz
The EU better act fast,this winter in Europe could be mighty cold. Especially if Gazprom turns off the natural gas spigot on its transmission lines that transit Ukraine.
but since western powers have stopped the new pipeline to Europe - u'd b forgiven 2 believe that they actually want it switched off.
At least the crooks running the US do.
They don't have to sit in a freezing apartment.
They are called ebola huts now.
What a bunch of kids. All of them.
Petroleum.
Shut it in, or shut up.
All of these actions, on all sides are completely silly. That aside, in the last thirty years the Russians have experienced a complete collapse of their economy, fragmentation of their union, and hyperinflation. As a country, and as a result of this hardship, their government has very little debt yet still has real resources comparable to that of the U.S. and their people are becoming more unified every day. You can come to your own conclusion as to who is positioned better in the world right now.
100% agree on hardship, lack of debt and them having productive real assets.
What was the feedback you got in Russia LoP ?
I don't travel anymore ,and on the ground humint is the most valuble.
Honestly, in both Russia and Brazil these days, you can summarize business in a simple phrase "let's make a deal".
Again, poverty and oppression means something completely different in these countries.
The bottom line is, I do not deliver the soybeans until I get the fiat agreed upon, as it were.
Interestingly, this can have unusual consequences if the dollar strengthens between the time the deal is made and when they actually pay up.
The Russian government has, for the most part, been better about getting out of the way and letting people do business. The Brazillian government still hasn't quite figured out how to keep from shooting themselves in the foot by delaying the interaction of productive partnerships.
Vlad is saving his "Operation gas shut off" for later.
(hint: Winter is coming)
Already buying warm clothes. Summer months = seasonal discount. Gas prices are going to rocket come October to February.
time to stop importing those EU cars.
More likely Ukraine will shut off the gas and blame it on Russia.
On a side note, Slovakia is saying that it can be supplied by backflow from the west if the gas is shut off in Ukraine. Does anybody know if that would work? Is there enough capacity in the Baltic pipeline to supply Europe by backflows if the Ukraine pipe is shut down?
Putin won't be shutting off the gas to the EU as long as they keep paying and don't start shooting. The Russians take their energy contracts seriously and besides that would be seen as an escalation.
If Ukraine is stupid enough to shut off the gas to EU they will get a quick dose of reality from Germany and other on-the-fence NATO countries.
Wake me up when Mushroom clouds are forming...oh wait n/m.
Putin didn't want to play the Federal Reserve/IMF Bankster game so their out to get him.
Putin plays his cards right he can help the banksters destroy themselves.
COMEX is open for business.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/E6YbvRbf/
Russia will launch all ICBMs and they'll be punking gold......cause that's what you do.
Both sides are M.A.D., Mutually Assured Destruction.
World trade is getting killed.
Of course it was Bank Lobby who started Aggression first with Quantitative Easing, which is purely Financial Aggression.
Putin took advantage of it and replied to that aggression with real war trying to snatch Ukraine.
And we are here now:
Bank Lobby OPENLY trying to REPLACE USD AS WORLD CURRENCY
http://forumblog.org/2014/07/dollar-brics-bank-imf-sdrs/
Of course Military Complex will never accept this since it will be decimated if that occurs.
When I say watch out for dead executives lying on streets, I actually mean it, if civil war between bank lobby and Military complex continues.
I'm beginning to see it this way - the people who really run the world have no problems with the ensuing starvation, war casualties and loss of life resulting from world economies going down the shitter. As far as they're concerned, humanity needs a reboot, a massive purge, an enema.
They will always be on top. Better for them to start over with less dregs, less resistance and more control. No?
Ultra elite first eliminate each other.
It is inevitable at this point, in my view. We are about to see assassinations of executives
Too many insolvent oligarchs and almost no world real assets (not financial assets) available for grab, unless war is declared
The basic contention that the US is no worse than anybody else because "they all do it" is false generalization.
Discounting ZH readers opposition to improper US actions is a mistake based on false generalizations.
Discounting and denigrating ZH readers support for justified actions done by allegedly "bad actors", because those "bad actors" may have "bad motives" is also a reflection of mistaken generalizations.
All we can do again, is write opinions.
We are not ultra elite, we are not on the inside.
Everything is an opinion and an interpretation, nothing else.
not all opinions are equally supported by evidence and reason
There is no such thing as 'evidence'.
Reason = personal interests
If you don't like my opinions, please do not read them
There is no such thing as 'evidence'. LOL! Tell that to the corpus delicti.
Reason = personal interests Does this statement explain your stance on Ukraine/Russia?
Opinions are like arseholes, but there's this harsh smell coming out of yours...
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Loss of the grid for them is just as bad as for the rest of us. Their progeny might be able to use alternatives sources for electricity for just one or two generations is my guess. Even with their wealth and the best laid backup plans, entropy will likely have the last say, and systems of order bulit on and dependent on fossil fuels for even trivial maintenance will eventually end up in disorder without FF.
We can only hope.
"Putin took advantage of it and replied to that aggression with real war trying to snatch Ukraine."
Where'd you come up with that, ekm1?
That's what I see. That is my view based on all events that have occurred.
All we can do, is to interpret events based on historical, geopolitical and geoeconomical factors.
That is what I think is happening currently
My meditation led me to think that Crimea snatched Russia before it could be snatched by other parties. But what do I know? Like you, all I can do is view the shadows and try to interpret as best as I can.
Again, history is a guide as to who was there berfore or after, which means basically ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Check this:
http://vimeo.com/89394659
Who was there before means absolutely nothing. The ones ready to use force, basically win.
That's what Putin did. He used force and won.
If you mean force of will, then I can see that.
Putin took Crimea by sheer military force and there is nothing wrong with that historically.
That is the norm and I was not surprised at all
Did he take, or was he preventing someone else from taking?
No objection on this logic. You are simply confirming my logic.
So, yes quite possible NATO wanted Crimea.
NATO snatched cyprus from Putin and is trying to kick him away from Tartus in Syria and they will.
So, Putin got Crimea by force.
All in all, fair game, I'd say.
Thank-you for your viewpoint. Interesting times.
"After 50 percent of the ballots were counted, more than 95 percent of voters had approved splitting off and joining Russia"
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4973122
By the evidence of the all the Crimean protests begging the Neo-Nazis to come save them from the murdering Russians.
Now those same blood-thirsty Russians are trying to force their way into the Eastern Oblasts to kill everyone with poisoned 'humanitarian' aid.
The Russians have been doing this shit since the last great Ice Age retreated.
ekm1
You want to point out there are oligarchs in Russia, OK.
You want to contend there is a global cabal of banksters, OK.
You do not like Putin, OK.
But you let your Russophobia get the better of your judgement when you suggest the
recent mayhem in Ukraine was caused by Putin attempting to "snatch Ukraine".
The general argument that oligarchs from all countries have common interests
does not necessarily mean that they have no separate, even antagonistic, interests.
Facts on the ground should not be twisted attempting to conform to a "conspiratorial" theory that they are all in it together on every occasion.
That is absolutely incorrect.
In 4000 years of documented history, elite has massacred other elite to get control of real assets.
It is no different now. Elite will massacre other elite, local or international to get control of world real assets
The basic contention that the US is no worse than anybody else because "they all do it" is false generalization.
Discounting ZH readers opposition to improper US actions is mistaken conclusion based on false generalization.
Discounting and denigrating ZH readers support for justified actions done by allegedly "bad actors", because those "bad actors" may have "bad motives" is also a reflection of mistaken generalizations.
You have attempted to "blame Putin" with basically all the above arguments.
Get over it.
Get real about what the US "oligarchs" are doing.
We will be happly to excoriate Putin for the bad stuff he actually does,
but not for the bad stuff the US does, and nonetheless you blame on him.
Humans have only 1 choice:
Choose the lesser evil.
USA domination is the lesser evil, otherwise, you may want to move to Moscow.
Shall we assume you voted for Obama,
and will be voting for Hillary?
"Move to Moscow" is often used fallacy which fails to account for people's inherent inertia and established connections. It would only be fair to ask someone outside of either US or Russia, where would they rather live if they had to chose.
Personally, I'd rather move to Moscow, even if it means having to learn another foreign language.
BTW, how many Russian immigrants are comming to the US lately?
I have lived both in New York and Moscow and I would pick Moscow again any day.
I think only the -very- well off would disagree.
Mind to share a few more details?
I am not anti-russian. I am anti-Putin
Since over 80% of Russians are pro-Putin, Socrates says you're a liar.
If you believe in a conspiracy, why only one ?
There are competing cabals, some elites are nationalistic, some globalist.
Life is never black and white, just multiple shades of grey.
Precisely
That chinese oligarchs or russian ones (if any left alive by Putin) hate western ones, it's no longer a conspiracy.
It's just a well known undisputed fact
From my personal experience with my clients,a mixture of American,Canadian,Danish.
S.African and Greek oligarchss, they are ALL nationalist first. Even the ones of the same
nationality rarely work together, I've seen punches thrown more often than deals made.
Social events can be a lot of fun to watch, believe me.
thank you
ekm1 re "Putin took advantage of it and replied to that aggression with real war trying to snatch Ukraine."
Hello! The Kagan? Your friend Victoria Knoodleman /Kagan, her $5B to distabilize Ukraine? Her cookies? Zinos are out of the closet in their Putin hatred.
Once again ekm1, you remain the eternal optimist, much appreciated.
:-)))
Meh.... who cares? It's not Russia's turn in the news cycle. Right now we are being distracted with Ferguson and Jackson hole. We'll get back to Russia soon..... probably when old Yeller needs a few shorts to pile on the market.
I think the US and Europe are doing the right thing in Ukraine. I'm not sure if we can push Russia further back out of Crimea, but we can only hope. The use of force to seize territory is a relic of the 19th century.
Sure destroying country is a right thing....
juggalo1, you may not have noticed but over 90% of the Crimean population are Russian speakers and voted, in a very high turnout election, to be RE-united with Russia.
Much of the population is retired Russian military or civil servants. Bit like retiring to the south of France.
Any attempt to make it part of the Ukraine is doomed to failure, in part because, as it is now part of Russia, Russia would regard it as a declaration of war and decimate all Ukraine's military bases. There would then be no way NATO could reinforce by air, even if they had the capability. Besides which, as Crimea is virtually an island, invasion would be very difficult. The population would be very keen to fight as well.
This is a Ukraine pipe dream.
I think listening to all that Insane Clown Posse and sniffing glue has fried your neurons, dipshit.
Then why does the US keep doing it? I mean, isn't toppling one government and replacing it with your puppets the same thing as "seizing territory?" Isn't "seizing territory" the same as stealing resources?
With this kind of sway on the markets does anyone think that Putin and friends are buying and selling the dips?
Just like arafat did with oil.
The US needs the world at wars....so the USD gains some support as an apparent safe haven. A world at peace exposes the USD for what it is.
An inability to endlessly print money means no funding of the massive US global military machine.
An inability to endlessly print money means no funding of the massive US global military machine.
K
And what is most amazing of all is that the Americans and Western Europeans are all too happy to play along just as long as nobody tells them the truth!
You know you're fucked when you walk into work and everyone else in the break room would rather talk Monday night preseason football when Ferguson is burning, along with Iraq, Syria, Libya, Gaza, Ukraine and your "inalienable rights"
The Grim Reaper had the same problem.
Nobody wanted to discuss the meaning of life and the cosmic ramifications of death when he showed at work, so now he says nothing and just does his thing in silence.
He's not a bad guy at all, and he's just doing his job.
People get all freaked out and would rather not deal with the unpleasantness of Death and the same pretty much applies to everyday life.
Especially on a Monday.
Hanging around the toilets for when you have a captured audience for enlightenment may be viewed as unseemly and eccentric behavior and I wouldn't recommend it.
The problem is not that of imposing sanctions. The real problem is how you back off without losing face. And the even bigger problem for the west is if Russia becomes happy with its new arrangements and decides to keep the sanctions it imposes in place.
"Losing Face" is an Asian thing - it's not something Westerners worry about!!!
Well, that was what I was always told at school anyway. ;-)
And there you have the nub of it.
The small Euro states are telling Brussels that sanctions on Russia will kill them and Germany is dithering as well but is reluctant to cross Big Uncle.
Big Uncle knows Putin is holding a pat hand and he's got a Queen high but kept raising the stakes hoping to catch. He knows that folding is the smart play but can't bring himself to do it and look like a fool. Rookie players always chase their money in the pot.
Pride goeth before the fall.
Is there a single thing the US has been involved in lately that has actually worked?
Destroy Soviet Union: check.
Destroy Yugoslavia: Check.
Destroy Iraq: check
Destroy Afghanistan: check
Destroy Libya: check
Destroy Syria: 50%
Destroy Ukraine: Getting there.
Destroy Pakistan: In process
Destroy planet: good start.
amerry guns in der homelands
we can win this
putin cannot win this he needs are corn syrup are dukun donuts russia cannot survive without golden graham.
the poor russian people are sick from eating organic veg.
they are weak from years of eating non gm fed cattle.
they are fed up with being stung by rampant evil honey bees noisy birds and animals.
they are furious from being denied great products by monsanto.
please help them they are crying out for bill gates population vaccine vitamins.
it is every freedom loving persons right to be able to buy in out of town superstore.
plastic is the way come on help russia join the plastic food wrap revolution.
with the help of soros rothschild ngo let the talmudic st petersburg blood flow.
come on guys let the st petersburg sept food maidan revolution begin.
That cheered me up with my morning coffee
On a humorous note, Bandera's grave was ruined in Munich.
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/60368.html
Angry Nazis in 3...2...1...
Russia may ban import of cars if West applies new sanctions http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/18/ukraine-crisis-russia-cars-idUKL5N0QO08X20140818
Bad news.
4 out of 5 Russian Mafiya prefer Caddy Escalades over Ford Explorers.
The BRICS and countries across central Eurasia including Russia has the same goal as China.If you spend the money on yourself and stay at peace,the longer you can do this,the more time you give yourself to allow your enemy to self-destruct by your enemy spending in the traditional military and banking methods.Neo-cons in The State Department are a socialists best ally.They can be used very easily.Simply look at the run down social fabric of big Cities in the United States.It's like a cancer eating the country from within and it's growing exponentially.Compare it to China for example where education is basically free.Ferguson is just a small example of a bankrupt Fed run banking system that produces ongoing poverty.It's a literal disgrace when you have billions to spend on being the world policeman and military cop but nothing for your own people.I've always said that I love American people,I just don't like the Government and how it treats its own.Americans need to wake up to Ron Paul's "END THE FED" and this worldwide military campaign of a thousand military bases around the globe and propping up dictators where all these troops are stationed.Europe is also a good example,these guys have American bases everywhere and since WW2 ended a long time ago they still push the Russian cold war threat button in order to keep spending.You wonder if there's actually a plan in The Fed to bankrupt America from within.
Like mr Borat would say "tsinqui"
Up next on the sanctions tit for tat
Russia to ban automobiles, liquor, tobacco