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Gold, Complacency, & Why Hookers And Bankers Share The Same Neighborhoods

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Submitted by Tim Price and Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

Sometimes I am convinced it was completely by design, and not a weird little coincidence, that one of Germany’s most sprawling red light districts is just steps away from the European Central Bank.

This fact becomes comically obvious right around happy hour... as self-congratulatory ECB economists and their bureaucratic bank underlings crowd the bars and cafes after work which are simultaneously frequented by pimps, thugs, and other assorted low-lifes.

One would be forgiven for legitimately asking the question: which of these professions has done more damage to humanity?

My [fiat] money’s on the bankers.

These are the same financial luminaries who, recently, crowded aboard the good idea bus and decided to take interest rates NEGATIVE.

Their logic was that prices aren’t rising enough. This was actually the headline this morning that ran across the Rai (Italian news) ticker while I was consuming some egg-like substance at the hotel breakfast buffet this morning in Rome.

The newsman said something to the effect of “Low inflation makes economic problems worse in Europe.”

Ah, yes. Precisely. The problem isn’t an absurd level of over-regulation, massive unsustainable debt, insolvent banking systems, idiotic politicians, etc.

THE problem plaguing the entire continent... the problem behind sluggish growth for all these years... is that consumers aren’t getting screwed fast enough.

It’s hard to even know where to begin with such an epic level of stupidity. First of all, it’s not even true.

Having just spent the last few months traveling across most of the continent, I was astounded to see the speed with which prices had risen in many places.

I just capped off a week-long vacation with my fellow teammates at Sovereign Man in Italy... same place as last year... and I was charged a whopping 50% increase over last year’s rates.

But this sort of truth doesn’t matter to an economist who actually believes in his ‘science’. It is this ‘science’ of economics which tells us that outsized government debts are irrelevant. That awarding the power to conjure paper money out of thin air is a sound, credible system.

Yet it’s not working. Much of Europe (like Italy) has fallen back into recession.

Even here in Germany, which is supposed to be some sort of econo-mythical superhero carrying the rest of Europe around on its shoulders, the government just announced that the economy contracted last quarter.

Whatever these economic policymakers are doing, it’s obviously not working. So naturally the solution is to try more of the same. Much more.

They’ve already taken certain interest rates into negative territory. The expectation now is that they’ll ratchet rates even further into negative territory.

In doing so, they are effectively screwing hundreds of millions of people. Every single person on the continent who is a responsible saver. Every pensioner. Every retired schoolteacher. Every student. Everyone who works hard for a living and can already barely make ends meet.

Their lives are all about to get a lot more difficult.

Even for the well-heeled, life has become quite stressful. Think about it– there’s almost no place left anymore to hold your savings.

Putting cash in a bank practically GUARANTEES that you will lose money on an inflation-adjusted basis. Stocks are at precarious all-time highs. Bonds are at all-time highs. Many real estate markets are back in bubble territory.

These people have destabilized nearly every major asset class in existence.

On the balance, I’d rather deal with the seedier characters in this neighborhood rather than the suitpanted PhDs pretending to do honorable work.

I want to share more with you about this… not only my thoughts, but those of my colleague Tim Price.

Tim is a regular contributor to this column and one of the few people in professional finance for whom I have tremendous respect.

Tim joined us earlier this week on our group vacation in Italy, and I fortunately had the presence of mind to record our conversation; his insights are absolutely not to be missed.

I encourage you to give a listen here: (click image for link)


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Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:38 | 5121824 Bloppy
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Business Insider bans all comments on Ferguson-related stories

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:40 | 5121835 wallstreetapost...
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hookers..... we call them business escorts where I'm from... paid fully on your corporate credit card.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:44 | 5121845 Latina Lover
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Comparing hookers to banksters is an insult to a noble professional.  If you want fairness, rent a hooker; you go to a banker to get fucked.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:49 | 5121870 JohnG
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"... as self-congratulatory ECB economists and their bureaucratic bank underlings crowd the bars and cafes after work which are simultaneously frequented by pimps, thugs, and other assorted low-lifes."

Honest thugs as opposed to bankers. Hmmmmm......

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:07 | 5121971 negative rates
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Better let Straus off the hook(er), who coulda known?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:34 | 5122149 Wolferl
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Always good to know Janet`s plunge protection team is on YOUR side of the market. Up to new ATHs on Friday during her speech. Doesn´t matter what she has to say.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:36 | 5122170 Manthong
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Looks like I might want to make a deposit.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:56 | 5121903 SoilMyselfRotten
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As Willie would say, 'cuz thats where the money is'

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:30 | 5122121 TeethVillage88s
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Latina Lover;

I tend to agree. Poor people and people that want to get ahead somehow will try the sex-trade with no other options and no loans for education or business.

Gathering knowledge about Bankers... Small Banks & Credit Unions & maybe Public Banks in Latin America... might have decent bank officers. I used to think Swiss Banks were conservative, but this whole element of them spying in WWII and doing deals with the Nazis doesn't sound innocent. Vatican started acting like the same kind of bank it seems with the "Ratlines". Information & Money & Hookers = like Guns & War.

Definitions need to expand:

A) Small Banker or Bank Officer
B) Hyper, Sexed Up, Steroid taking, Child Killing, Super, Wall Street, Elite Banker
C) Engineer or Scientist Turned Financial Manager (AC-DC- could go either way and sits in Interregnum till he decides)

Must be a lot of Gray area here though.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:41 | 5122495 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's fine for those who can afford one.  For those who are price-conscious "solo players", there's

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:01 | 5121944 bluskyes
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Both a meal, and entertainment, depending on your tastes.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:37 | 5122471 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hold the moldy cheese, please.  And skip the 'Con Fungi'.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:43 | 5121842 Rainman
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what is this Business Insider ? 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:44 | 5121844 NOTaREALmerican
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Good for them.   Who needs to listen to people with racial OCD and victim OCD argue past each other for weeks.  It's like listing to the (R)etard and (D)umbasses argue.   What's the point?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:08 | 5122344 Keyser
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We can only hope their heads explode from all the politcally correct nonsense...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:02 | 5121943 Toolshed
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And? BI is a tripe fest of the .gov mouthpiece sort. No one with a clue goes there except for laughs.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:17 | 5122037 Nassim
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Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:39 | 5121828 dbTX
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Location, location, location

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:41 | 5121838 NOTaREALmerican
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Inflation is just the word used to describe the rate of increase in human optimism.   The brilliance of the smart-n-savvy people is shown by creating a financial system that taxes people for optimism (inflation).    It's absolutely brilliant.   Sometimes, you've just got to stand in awe of the smart-n-savvy people.  I wish I had thought of that.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:53 | 5122264 TeethVillage88s
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Reminds me of Taxes on Capital Gains that haven't been realized yet... and property taxes.

I haven't had the displeasure of having to pay taxes on stocks that went down, but at tax time it shows you owe taxes.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:17 | 5123182 MeelionDollerBogus
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smart-n-savvy citizenism - it never gets old.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:40 | 5123329 TheFourthStooge-ing
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smart-n-savvy citizenism - it never gets old.

Ah, ah, an observation of validness. Slow-motion eagles age very slowlier within the smart-n-savvy citizenism context.

The current situation is non uniformously detrimental to all people.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:41 | 5121839 Sudden Debt
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We live in a culture where woman don't really see a problem being a hooker and guys are porn addicts.
Just type any word in google images, red, star, donkey, ape, horse... Anything and you'll get filthy porn shit.

And as a parent, you want to smash laptops and tablets against a wall when you see your kids watching that. And just try to explain that crap to a 10 year old...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:51 | 5121882 NOTaREALmerican
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The magic of the American predator society is how it rewards natural human behavior.      It's one reason we're the most powerful predator country on the face of the earth. 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:53 | 5121884 debtor of last ...
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My 5 year old asked: dad, what's porn? I said, google 'Yellen', 'porn' and 'chart'. You have to start the education in an early stage.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 00:52 | 5124034 hedgiex
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Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:53 | 5121894 SofaPapa
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The line between "porn" and pop culture has been beyond blurry for years.  Similarly the line between a "sugar daddy" and a "john".  This is a society tearing itself apart.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:46 | 5122226 TeethVillage88s
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That means we are Normalizing to be more like Asia & Europe.

Maybe this is part of the negotiations for TPP, TAP, DAFTA-DR, or whatever name they use for the Treaties.

Funny how the First Country to Sign CAFTA-DR is now being let Migrate to USA with our Borders wide open.

Hm... probably the Royal Families in the Middle East also secretly approve of Hookers, Porn, and exciting pop culture with lots of skin and simulated sex.

USA was Unique in a few ways. Not for having democracy, since we have a Republic. Not for being firm against socialism, since we have Medicare, Social Security taxes, and Medical & Pension for US Congressmen. We are unique because:

A) We had a moral majority, strong principals, strong conservatism until the 1960s
B) Gun Rights & Lots of Guns & Ammo
C) Lots of Cheap land for homesteading or staking a mining claim
D) US Constitution with true Equality, Freedoms & Rights to ensure Liberty
E) The world First Middle Class, and a big one by 1960s

Now Federal Government & Sitting US Presidents: 1) Lie to US About War 2) Give away Rights in Treaties 3) Dissemble the US Middle Class

How shameful for President Barak Obama, G.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillery Clinton, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Peter King, Rudy Guiliani, Mayor Bloomberg, Allan Greenspan, Colon Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, the US Supreme Court, the SEC, FINRA, Hank Paulson, Tim Geithner,... and now Janet Yellen.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:14 | 5123167 MeelionDollerBogus
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You definitely don't have a republic, nor should you want one.
A republic is a bastion of tyranny ruled by an elite but not a corporate elite.
You have a corporate fascist tyranny & trading it in for a republic tyranny is not very smart.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:57 | 5121911 sleigher
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Want to?  I admit I have lost my temper.  Seems my blakhole list of sites just gets longer and longer on the FW.  Kids don't understand but they will one day.  Hopefully they don't hold it against me.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:12 | 5123158 MeelionDollerBogus
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That's why you use a white-list.
Kids are approved to see what you personally approve & nothing else.
Or, you let your kids grow up, adapt & learn on their own and they get smart enough on their own to filter out what's not worth seeing, just like you would without someone watching over your should to make it happen.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:08 | 5121978 fukidontknow
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Nope just got donkeys apes and horses - no porn shit. Must be something to do with your filthy search history.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:10 | 5121990 HamRove
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It's easy...

"Little Johnny, sometimes when a man and a hippo love each other VERY much......."

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:23 | 5122096 BandGap
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Don't ban a damn thing. Don't smash anything. Pornography plays to the lowest common denominator in all of us.

Teach your kids self respect and respect for others. It is a daily lesson in life.   Teach them to use their minds to control impulses. 

Sometimes they will fail, as we all do. But it is important to stay on message. In the end they embrace being respected and earning the respect of others. They learn the human condition.


Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:10 | 5123143 MeelionDollerBogus
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Actually no, it doesn't.
Not all porn is for all viewers but just about all porn can keep a man occupied so he doesn't get chumped into wifing up someone who in all reality isn't marriage material, much less dating a girl who's -10 on a scale of trustability no matter how she might look.
Married guys are chumps, period.

It matters not how smart you invest nor how much: in a divorce she can take it all, half up front, the rest from alimony, and then there's any giant chunk of change per child a judge sees fit.
I don't care what you feel, investing isn't about feeling if you're doing it right. And in terms of managing risk for investing & saving about the worst thing a male can do in various nations, including Canada, US, Britain, is to be married.
It's a legal contract where all the benefits usually go to one party & all the penalties to the other. Guess who.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:44 | 5121843 Ban KKiller
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Hampton whores have Ebola. They caught it from Wall Street...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:34 | 5122150 CHX
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Wed, 08/20/2014 - 16:45 | 5121851 kchrisc
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"Why Hookers And Bankers Share The Same Neighborhoods"

Don't offend hookers like that. Hookers provide a service, banksters steal and utilize the violence of government to backstop their theft.

An American, not US subject.


"Save the planet, guillotine a bankster."

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:16 | 5122034 assistedliving
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hookers i never worry about, its the pimps...usually w/ names like the 'squid', shCiti, JP, Dutche, Bony

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:25 | 5122112 Hubbs
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Time to ask a new question to replace the old one asked of Willie Sutton. Why do you rob banks? Because that is where the money is, with  asking  prostitutes why they hang out by Central Banks? Because that is where the money is.


Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:34 | 5122118 Radical Marijuana
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"... which of these professions has done more damage to humanity?"

Clearly, the biggest gangsters are the banksters.

Prostitutes dod not control governments,

BUT, banksters control governments!

Banksters dominated the mass media,

to turn those into "presstitutes," etc..

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:32 | 5122139 are we there yet
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A red light district also surrounds the Vatican.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:38 | 5122176 Ludwig Von
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"as self-congratulatory ECB economists and their bureaucratic bank underlings crowd the bars and cafes after work"


In Brussels it is within working hours. And declared as working expenses.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:43 | 5122206 e_u_r_o
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getting really sick of this boring gold action

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:50 | 5122537 greatbeard
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I think that's the intent.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:44 | 5122214 cpnscarlet
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Funny, but so far it's all about hookers and not a single comment about gold.

Stupid of me to notice, I guess. It's just a shiny relic with no purpose. But at least we all know what hookers are for. Some things are more eternal than others I guess.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:49 | 5122240 Cacete de Ouro
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Who is this Dimon Black character ?

Show your face Jamie Dimon Black, go on, I dare you!

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 17:51 | 5122248 TradingTroll
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"Putting cash in a bank practically GUARANTEES that you will lose money on an inflation-adjusted basis."


Then he says stocks and bonds are at alltime highs. But wait. American's #1 source of wealth storage is housing, which is lower than 2007's peak.


That means asset DEFLATION for most.


For most, putting money in the bank meant they beat the average who stored money in their house-which lost value.


So there is no inflation, lets take care of that right away.



Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:04 | 5122322 Rollerball
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Monetary value lies in the eyes of the beholder, not the beholden.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:10 | 5122348 armageddon addahere
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"Append a list of bank employees, broken down by sex"

It was cocaine and whiskey that did the damage.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:52 | 5122539 ToNYC
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A distinction without a difference.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:17 | 5122642 Kirk2NCC1701
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Gold USED to be a "store of value", but that "store" has been "Fergusoned" in the last 2 years by dark forces.

Gold can and should be part of a well-diversified portfolio, but is not the panacea that its shills make it out to be.  It's also a part of PM, which in turn is part of a broader class of Precious Assets (PA).

Where PA = Any Precious Asset, i.e. Natural Asset = Precious Materials + Precious Energies

   and Precious Materials = PM = Precious Metals + Strategic Metals + Strategic Minerals

   and Precious Energies = PE = Oil + Gas + Electricity

Some people might argue that Precious Water and Precious Foods should also be included, but that is difficult in practice, due to the fact the Precious Foods are different things to different people in different places.

Note also that Oil is special in the Precious Energy equation, because of its multiple uses that go beyond its energy content.  Products that are derived from Petroleum are used in a vast range of industries:  everything from fertilizer, to plastics, to drugs.  Life w/o plastics alone would be impossible for our modern era, and it is easy to see why Oil is the lifeblood of money and modern life.  For that reason alone, I predict that as oil gets scarcer and scarcer, that it will eventually become a true Precious Mineral/Material -- far more so than today.

If they haven't done so already, some astute Wall St type will realize that one could have a MF (Mutual Fund) built on PMs and PEs, by holding a nice mix of aforementioned assets from a range of places around the globe.  And good luck in keeping both Precious Materials and Precious Energy down for any length of time.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:58 | 5123103 MeelionDollerBogus
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A person looking at only 2 years to decide what a store of value is probably has no idea what a 'store' is (as in storage) or 'value'. At all.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:15 | 5122651 Tom Green Swedish
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The only way to eliminate bankers is by a barter system.  Already a couple of these places in existence - Lending Club and Prosper.  It is the same concept as a bank - but with an internet twist to it.  However I do not know how these companies are profitable.  I can say with almost certainty that peer to peer lending with multiple lending accounts will be the way of the future.  The only thing which needs to be ironed out is the future money creation method and a better way to make a informed decision on the risk of the borrower and interest rate.  In a sense we would still have interest - the only way somebody will lend money, but it is also an investment vehicle. 

Perfection of this type of lending would yield enormous amounts cutting out the banker as the middle man thus ending their shady practices.


“Uh, interesting. Gotta go! I’m signing up today for a Fidelity ‘Growth Fund’ that, while rising and falling with wild abandon, could theoretically earn me an 8% return (but probably won’t). This actively-managed fund will eventually take $150,000 in fees from me before I die. Hey, is that a violin?”



&lt;p&gt;Wells Fargo bans peer-to-peer loans&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Wells Fargo has banned its employees from loaning their own money on peer-to-peer lending platforms. CNBC&amp;#039;s Kayla Tausche explains the risks involved with the lending strategy.&lt;/p&gt;

Wells Fargo has banned its employees from lending their own money through peer-to-peer loan platforms, in a sign of growing tensions between new "P2P" lenders and the largest U.S. bank by market value.

"Ethics administrators" at Wells Fargo decided to forbid staff from P2P lending after concluding "that for-profit peer-to-peer lending is a competitive activity that poses a conflict of interest."


And guess who is on the board of Lending Club.  Very interesting:


Board of directors
Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:25 | 5122687 Kirk2NCC1701
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Peer-to-Peer loans are bigger than people realize.  I got wind of this at Simon Black's Offshore Workshop 2013, where I met some people who are doing this.  In that sense, Simon's forum/workshop are a "private marketplace" for people looking for funding and people looking to invest -- who are outside the Wall St meme of investment.

For obvious reasons, it's not something you'd publicly advertize on the internet, but it certainly is something you come in contact with at investment forums or 'conventions'.  As always though, Caveat Emptor.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:41 | 5122748 Kirk2NCC1701
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As I blogged 5 days ago (5098320 ), I see 4 reasons/scenarios why a person might buy gold or PM in recent years...

1. If you consider PM (not just gold/silver) to be an "Insurance Policy", then 'BTFD' is an opportunity to buy that Policy real cheap.  

2. If you bought to "Invest", you're a moron.  And your "Adviser" is either a moron also, or (more likely) a self-serving, commission-taking bastard, whose lame ass you should fire.  PM is a hedge, an Insurance Policy, but not an "Investment" per se, as it does nor "earn" a return or pay dividends.  People who call it an "investment" are playing fast and loose with words, and are dangerous to themselves and others.  Best to avoid them.

3. If you bought Bullion to mitigate Money Printing, i.e., with the mistaken (and now sadly and very naive) assumption that PM prices would remain "tightly coupled" to the Money Supply (Money/Currency creation, aka QE), then you've been exposed as a well-meaning but naive fool -- who probably listened to shills, listened to other "naive fools with influence" (some high-profile Libertarians), or was taken for a ride by agenda-driven or self-serving opportunists. 

Look at it this way:  In the post-2008 Crony/Casino Capitalist world we live -- a world of QE that will defend the Dollar to the End -- why would Gold/Silver not be manipulated along with EVERYTHING else?  Are you really that naive?  Only the truly naive would follow that tune, and only the horribly wicked would play it.

4. If you bought PM to speculate... well, why are you griping at the Manipulated Market?  You live by the sword...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:40 | 5123031 MeelionDollerBogus
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When I invest in stored food it doesn't pay me dividends either but it's possibly the safest investment and highest returning in saved money / future cost.

That which pays out regular only in fiat, and can easily fall in re-sale price faster than a dividend payout (aka income) can rise, is actually a loss or a high risk of loss.

As for being "tightly coupled" it's a generational cycle. One may lag the other but gold price in fiat does rise or lower to move with fiat supply including all fiat-equivalent revolving credit. Since revolving credit is lied about, created out of fraud, potentially never paid & newly issued in an unpredictable manner, it can't possibly move precisely with a solid atomic nucleus of gold & all the value of that gold summed together. It will try, however.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 00:24 | 5123981 Tegrat
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I have some storage as well, but dont delude yourself, there's risk of life if anyone finds out you are eating out of the basement. SO food storage is NOT an investement it's a high risk liability that has an ongoing cost, depreciation with time and a risk of all living in/around the so called insurance policy. Then to complicate things you gotta buy insurance insurance in the form of lead and blued steel. On top of that the food you store, if it all works out, will keep you existing, not living, in a 3rd world hell even the most prepared will not want to be in compared to now.

Nothing will be good will come from a lack of banks (except little to no federal government). Just you and your neighbors. Without Banks you will be transported to life of the hatfields and mccoys era. Banks are good for people who pay bills and need short term cash for long term returns.Just like guns, fiat is a tool.


Dont forget, without banks there would be no ZH. No DARPA government agency to invent an Internet. No computer in your house and no flat screen. You will toil all day in your garden - hoping you and your neighbors crops will grow fast enough to feed you all. At night, without banks, power companies wont be able to provide reliable power and you will be rolling around in your sweat looking for a cool spot on the bed in summer and dreading the cold morning frost in winter.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:26 | 5127601 MeelionDollerBogus
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By that logic if I'm not out in the street looting & looking like that's the only food I'll get, I'm a target for anything. Booze, smokes, gold, cash, food, anything.
Sorry, this logic is horrible: if my only 2 choices are to have things or have nothing so no one thinks they should kill me because I have things, I'll have things.
Because the alternative is scrapping in the street with nothing for something & you can just as easily be killed for being too close to a thing you don't even have, that someone else wants, like food, smokes, booze, etc.

having no ZH and having no banks is fine by me: ZH is not an immune system it's a component of an immune system, forming, so just like I would be happy with small pox not existing I'd then also be fine with immunity to small pox not existing if there's no disease to defend against.

We don't need banks. I don't like them or want or need them.

A government agency wasn't required to build the Internet any more than it was needed to build a phone network or radio networks.

I don't care about "reliable" power, those same corporate+government forces actually prohibit you from making power yourself from the resoures around you with various regulations about what you can build & where.

You go check out Youtube, channel Engineer775, and see what you can do with no power company & no government interference.

I'd be more than happy to toil in the heat (I love it, I don't use air-conditioning) for a garden (which is a real return).

I don't need a computer, flat screen or TV or other such nonsense. I use a computer here & now to discern what is nonsense & to help destroy it. If there was no nonsense this activity would be needless.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:43 | 5122793 villainvomit
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Business that H Blodgett.s site ?  The analyst that was pumping the dot coms back in the day?

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!