US Attempted To Rescue James Foley, Other ISIS Hostages, Failed Because "Hostages Were Not Present"

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If there was one thing the Obama administration did not need as it is careening from one international crisis to another, was compounding comparisons to the Carter administration and its botched attempt to rescue US hostages in 1980 Iran also known as Operation Eagle Claw. Well, as of moments ago, that comparison is now in play following what the Pentagon just revealed was a botched attempt to recue a number of American hostages held by ISIS, "early this summer." The reason why the mission failed: "tho hostages were not there." Why? "We don’t know. And that’s the truth. When we got there, they weren’t there. We don’t know why that is. 

From the spokesperson for the State Department Marie Harf:

The United States attempted a rescue operation recently to free a number of American hostages held in Syria by ISIL. This operation involved air and ground components and was focused on a particular captor network within ISIL. Unfortunately, the mission was not successful because the hostages were not present at the targeted location. We put the best of the United States military in harms way to try and bring our citizens home.

And from ABC:

U.S. special operations forces early this summer launched a secret, major rescue operation in Syria to save James Foley and a number of Americans held by the extremist group ISIS, but the mission failed because the hostages weren’t there, senior administration officials told ABC News today.

 

President Obama authorized the “substantial and complex” rescue operation after the officials said a “broad collection of intelligence” led the U.S. to believe the hostages were being held in a specific location in the embattled Middle Eastern nation.

 

When “several dozen” U.S. special operation members landed in Syria, however, they were met with gunfire and “while on site, it became apparent the hostages were not there,” one of the officials said. The special operators engaged in a firefight in which ISIS suffered “a good number” casualties, the official said, while the American forces suffered only a single minor injury.

 

The American forces were able to get back on helicopters and escape.

 

“Intelligence is not a perfect science,” the senior official said. As to how the intelligence failed and why the hostages were not there, the official said, “The truth is, we don’t know. And that’s the truth. When we got there, they weren’t there. We don’t know why that is.”

 

Much about the daring mission itself remains a secret -- officials said they did not want to reveal too much about the rescue attempt for fear of spoiling future efforts.

 

“It was conducted, but was not ultimately successful,” a senior U.S. official told ABC News.

 

The operation was what senior government officials described as a major undertaking -- involving special operations forces from multiple branches of the military, helicopters, fixed-wing airplanes, and surveillance aircraft.

One can see why the US tried to keep this mission secret, unless of course it was all fabricated overnight.

In other words, we tried to rescue some folks... from the other folks we gave weapons and training to for the past two years, the same folks we are also now trying to kill.

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Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:55 | 5122553 James_Cole
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botched attempt to rescue US hostages in 1980 Iran also known as Operation Eagle Claw. Well, as of moments ago, that comparison is now in play following what the Pentagon just revealed was a botched attempt to recue a number of American hostages held by ISIS, "early this summer."

Just give ISIS a bunch more weapons, worked for Reagan. 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 18:59 | 5122574 gmrpeabody
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None of this shocks me anymore....

why is that?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:00 | 5122587 Cognitive Dissonance
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The desensitizing of America is proceeding according to plan.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:03 | 5122601 Richard Chesler
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Fore!!!

 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:31 | 5122721 All_Your_Base
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Durdenian-slip: "botched attempt to recue a number of American hostages..."

re-cue? Maybe. At this point I do not know what to believe...going with botched attempt to spell rescue.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:34 | 5122738 GeorgeWKush
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Am I the only one annoyed by people referring to the Islamic State as the "Islamic state group"? As if they were a bunch of fly by night warriors. The time has come to acknowledge that IS actually is a sovereign state with vast lands and millions of citizens under their control.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:45 | 5122803 nmewn
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An Islamic-statist, justifying violent conquest, how entertaining.

So, when "other warriors" come in and incinerate and/or decapitate them, will you run crying like a baby and hide behind the skirt of Mommy UN or Auntie Hague?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:53 | 5122828 GeorgeWKush
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What the fuck is this? Acknowledging what is happening on the ground has nothing to do with my feelings about the gruesome methods IS uses to promote their ridiculous case.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:26 | 5122976 MacGruber
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Funny how this is Obama's fault considering he probably was the furthest from the tactical intel and recovery mission. If anything this is a CIA/pentagon failure. At least it's a comparison with Carter and not with the patently illegal actions of Reagan's arms for hostages deal.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:04 | 5123119 Escrava Isaura
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MacGruber,

The way I read this was NOT a military failure. To the contrary.

This was an intelligence failure.

By the way, I don't think the article said anything about CIA. Did it?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:11 | 5123145 old naughty
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were the "hosts" present then?

Were they captured for leverage ?

Botched (eh, killed) just for show !

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:20 | 5123190 Escrava Isaura
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old naughty,

I am sorry, but having trouble understanding you. Especially with “hosts”.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 22:10 | 5123484 old naughty
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sorry, didn't mean to upset you...

hostages held by "hosts", no?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 22:50 | 5123705 earnyermoney
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I read the other way, Military Failure and an Intelligence success.

CIA tipped off their muppets thus the movement of the hostages as the raid was getting under way.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 00:19 | 5123974 Urban Roman
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Not CIA. From now on, it will be CIF -- F is for 'folks'.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 22:30 | 5123606 Aussie V
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As I understand it officially, Obama is not to blamed for anything for the past 7 years.

Isn't that right?

 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 23:44 | 5123900 Joenobody12
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Well you know, there is lead in the water and its ingestion tends to lower ones IQ.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 22:31 | 5123609 Aussie V
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Double Post. But I am right arn't I?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:32 | 5122995 nmewn
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(Slipping on my statist hat)...so why exactly would you want IS acknowledged as a sovereign country?

So they can be killed "legally"?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:38 | 5123020 bitterwolf
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lol ,no silly, so we can negotiate legally from a position of weakness.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:59 | 5123104 666
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The military probably got their information from the NSA. Y'know, the same NSA that has a perfect record of not knowing about any terroristic threats in the USSA, not pegging the Boston Bombers as potential miscreants, and spending their $50B funding on creating a Star Trek styled command center/office.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:03 | 5123117 nmewn
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lol...there was no way I could make..."The time has come to acknowledge that IS actually is a sovereign state with vast lands and millions of citizens under their control."...my brain comprehend anything other than what he stated.

But of course, we live outside the world where what is stated doesn't really matter, they live within it ;-)

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:12 | 5123118 GeorgeWKush
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Because many, if not all of the criterias that needs to be met in order to define a sovereign state is present. Vast land firmly under their control, a vast permanent population (Ar-Raqqah has over 300 000 inhabitants and Mosul well over a million), a well organized leadership in addition to apparently well organized finances including assets in the billion$ class.

One can argue it is more of an army with a state than a state with an army, and the civil society could have been better tended for. It does not have the trademarks of a modern state and reminds me very much of a classic medieval feudal state, though, that is no reason not to acknowledge the existence of a state as it is what most states looked like of thousands of years.

The UN with friends will pobably continue to refuse that there is a new state of the block and IS will remain a de facto state without international recognition, even if IS was to capture Damascus, but a good zerohedger doesn't let the UN and US foreign secretary dictate its assumption of reality.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:13 | 5123161 bitterwolf
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you what the sick irony is....IF IS can successfully provide services to it "citizens" the "state" can meet the definition of NOT A FAILED STATE ie. somalia,,,crazy

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 22:20 | 5123544 nmewn
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Just as I suspected, thanks for being honest about it anyways...slipping on my statist hat again...

A sovereign state in a community of like-minded states (my friend) does not terrorize its own populace and it certainly does not behead them for not converting to the states religious doctrine. This would be the world as we know it now and sovereign states as we know them.

It is why there is upheavel in "these states" here, we do not like green eggs & ham. We do not like the NSA in our house, posing as a mouse. We do not like living in a box, even with a fox, like you...maybe you should read more and speak less.

Kinda like what you're proposing for the victims of ISIS to do.

Just grin and bear it.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:27 | 5123242 logicalman
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Legally, yes.

There's a huge difference between 'legal' and 'lawful'

You can only lawfully kill someone who is trying to kill you. Personally.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:59 | 5123427 123dobryden
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you basicaly correct,    

but e.g. gruesome methods were born at that region with Assyrians, so far i didnt see any torture, just killing enemies or enemies soldiers what basicaly is a game played in every conflict in every country /wait for your particular country to see that your own eyes with the currency collapse/

their cause is as ridiculous to you, as cause of your government is to them

beheading, they killed the hostage after they were attacked by hostage's government forces

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:59 | 5123428 123dobryden
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you basicaly correct,    

but e.g. gruesome methods were born at that region with Assyrians, so far i didnt see any torture, just killing enemies or enemies soldiers what basicaly is a game played in every conflict in every country /wait for your particular country to see that your own eyes with the currency collapse/

their cause is as ridiculous to you, as cause of your government is to them

beheading, they killed the hostage after they were attacked by hostage's government forces

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:27 | 5122699 LasVegasDave
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The average hostage will save over $2500 under my hostage rescue plan

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:47 | 5122811 nmewn
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lol...if you like your hostage rescue plan, you can keep it!

Period ;-)

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:53 | 5122879 A Nanny Moose
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Now that's some funny shit right thar!

If you like your head, you can keep your current one.

This of course, from the very same people who want us to believe that they killed 0'Bama Bin Laden, and buried him at sea out of respect.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:19 | 5122939 Winston Churchill
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Just hope your deductable is removed with a very sharp scimitar.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:40 | 5123029 A Nanny Moose
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Deductible envy.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:34 | 5123005 bitterwolf
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major underwriting provided by MF Global

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:41 | 5123037 A Nanny Moose
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...aaaaand it's gone!!!

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:09 | 5122897 Cabreado
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CD, I don't agree...

There are two sides of the "desensitize" coin, and the plan/wish neglected communication-on-a-grand-scale.

Comparing Notes, essentially, is the most powerful force in this equation.

The planners/wishers' "plan" has already been derailed... and so, acts of desperation rule the day, already...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:33 | 5122938 Cognitive Dissonance
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Not sure if 'they' are even approaching desperate yet....though many of the lower control tiers certainly appear to be.

What I see on a daily basis are emotions running high in the alternative media as well as the mainstream media. Comment sections of all the blogs and news outlets I visit are nearing hysterical levels. People are on edge and in some cases losing their heads....or at least their wits.

Tensions are high and we appear to be balanced on the razor's edge. I say 'appear' because I saw it much worse decades ago and know how much further down the bunny hole this mess can go before people really do begin to snap. "They" never have full control nor do they need full control. When dealing with a population so conditioned and polarized as "We the People" are, it is actually to 'their' advantage to poke a stick in the cage from time to time and work the blood up to a full boil.

If I were the puppet master I would much prefer the puppets fight among themselves than rally against me. And by puppets I am also talking about the lower control tier such as police, state troopers, national guard etc etc. Ferguson could have been defused long ago. So why is it being inflamed?

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:33 | 5122998 Cabreado
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"I saw it much worse decades ago and know how much further down the bunny hole this mess can go before people really do begin to snap."

Decades ago there was much more headroom to absorb snapping people... and the points of control were not in the state of chaos that they are now.

"If I were the puppet master..."

If you were the puppet master, you'd be quite concerned about your exposure, and distraught at your failing expectations.

"People are on edge..."

And as we go... all points of control (and "plans" and wishes) are quite aware.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:05 | 5123120 Cognitive Dissonance
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I respect your opinion and don't necessarily disagree with any of your specific points. But when seen from a distance with the help of perspective and a sense, and the memory, of history it doesn't 'feel' that bad...yet.

I remember Kent State quite well. Now there was a time when the entire country was on edge and already racked by division and strife. You say there was more head room back then to absorb people snapping. I remember it differently. Many were expecting civil war.....just as some people are expecting civil war today. BTW the economy was not doing well and inflation was higher, much higher then it is today. Unemployment was a real problem and there was not the social/financial safety net we have in place today.

There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of
universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United
States due to a student strike of four million students,[9] and the event further affected public opinion—at an already socially contentious time—over the role of the United States in the Vietnam War.[10]

 

BTW where are the righteously indignant students of today? Oh, that's right, living off their student loans and dependent upon The State.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:31 | 5123264 bitterwolf
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I would prefer a American-negro-LEO-99% some kind goddamn "spring" for a black swan trigger for the next evolution- than this mushroom cloud over an American city Obummster said was worried about a few months back(15 yr meme now...) or 12 city complex simultaneous VBIED attack blamed on ISIS "agents"...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 21:14 | 5123164 Eahudimac
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You are correct. The puppet masters have no reason to be worried. Let's face it, most of us on ZH get it, but the overwhelming majority do not. As you frequently state, people are programmed. Their concept of a banker is the teller behind the counter where they go to cash their check. Tensions are high because people are being played against each other and cannot grasp the scope and contro of their oppressors. They don't even know how they are oppressed. The police are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Government and bankers. Until people understand that they can live without them, they will continue to be ruled by them. 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:13 | 5126878 forensicator
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"The desensitizing of America is proceeding according to plan."

 

Overton Window in play

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:21 | 5122672 QQQBall
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The "Tee-Ball White House" - we tried. so give us a trophy

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:37 | 5122758 angel_of_joy
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Rejoice ! The good old days of Carter ineptitude are back ! Next movie: embassy hostages... wait, we had that already in Benghazi ! But this time it will be different, I'm sure. Because Obama...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:30 | 5122915 BobPaulson
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I don't buy the "Carter is a terrible guy" narrative. People hated him because he didn't want to kick the can on energy and debt and because his brother was a bum. He was and is a very compassionate person and people may have preferred somebody who sounded like a tough guy but made back room deals with the hostage takers at the same time (which is what they got). What followed him was a decade of massive debt ballooning. 

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:36 | 5123008 Winston Churchill
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Well Obozo is certainly making Carter look like a very good president right about now.

I, for one, would swap them in  a heart beat.

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:16 | 5122649 Hugh G Rection
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Simon Elliot..uhh, I mean Abu bogeyman al-Bahdadi has Netanyahu on speed dial.

 

I'm sure Herzilya gives their terrorists playing dress up ample warning.

http://zionismsucks.com/2014/08/06/isis-a-zionist-franchise/

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:43 | 5123046 john39
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Emmanuel Goldstein raising a new army, al-cia-duh 2.0, to really get WWIII going in earnest...

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 20:57 | 5123096 LasVegasDave
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Interesting...

You mean that Israel, and its Mossad, arent boy scouts?

They actually look out for their own interests?

and have (gasp) intelligence agencies?

Lets see the photoshopped images of the Israeli weapons and the diploma baba al fuckwaddi got from the Mossad, Herr Goebbels

Wed, 08/20/2014 - 19:22 | 5122677 QQQBall
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No (more) boots on the ground in Syria.

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