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Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor In The Land Of The Free

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

By the late 1920s, Joseph Stalin became the unchallenged leader of the Soviet Union after having eliminated his opposition.

He topped it off in 1929 by serving a decisive blow to anyone that would dare to oppose him by outlawing private gun ownership in the country.

From that year on until 1953 when Stalin died, it’s estimated that more than 20 million Soviet citizens that were seen as a threat to the country’s leadership.

People were rounded up and either murdered outright, or sent to infamous gulag labor camps.

Stalin is an extreme case. But history is ripe with examples of governments which disarm their citizens, only to engage in serious oppression afterwards.

Communist China. Nazi Germany. Cambodia. Guatemala. Uganda. The list goes on and on. Pacification of the citizens is almost always a prerequisite to totalitarianism.

There have been a lot of attempts to disarm, or at least partially disarm, people in the US throughout history as well.

Each time there’s a major shooting somewhere, the chant to ban firearms grows louder.

But the latest proposal is especially telling.

H.R. 5344 is a bill currently going through Congress that would ban the purchase of body armor.

Violation would carry CRIMINAL penalties, including up to ten years in prison.

Many bullet-resistant items on the market now, such as bulletproof backpacks for school children, would be banned by this legislation.

This is incredible given that the legislation is all about banning something that is purely defensive.

Whatever your stance on firearms, I hope we can agree that it’s pretty damn difficult to hurt another human being with body armor.

People buy body armor for protection. That’s the point. Duh.

So why in the world would they want to ban it?

The government claims that “criminals and rampaging madmen” can “wreak havoc” while wearing body armor, and it’s important to shield police from these nefarious individuals.

Uh, wait a sec– you mean the same police that go around terrorizing ordinary citizens who aren’t breaking any laws whatsoever?

The same police who beat homeless people to death?

The same police who shoot and kill innocent animals in broad daylight in the middle of the street?

The same police who scream “I will f***ing kill you!” with their weapons trained on crowds of protestors exercising their constitutional rights?

Right. Those guys.

This is such a disgusting, yet unfortunately predictable, turn of events in the Land of the Free.

It’s enraging. It’s infuriating. And it’s so obvious: the country has become a giant police state. And the trend is not getting any better.

It’s time to set aside emotion. It’s time to set aside a lifetime of propaganda and programming telling you that you live in a free country.

It’s time to look at the objective evidence all around you.

They spy. They steal. They wage illegal wars. They authorize military detention of civilians. They assassinate citizens.

They intimidate. They terrorize. They torture. They suspend due process when it suits. They destroy anyone who challenges them.

And now they want to take away a non-violent means of protecting yourself.

This is our reality. And at a minimum, it’s time for rational, thinking people to come up with a Plan B. What’s yours?

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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:03 | 5127182 Coletrane
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the sheep about to be fleeced ?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:10 | 5127210 Da Yooper
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It

 

Would be interesting to see just who wrote this ( authored ) legislation

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:18 | 5127250 Occams_Chainsaw
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https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5344

 

Sponsor:Rep. Honda, Michael M. [D-CA-17] (Introduced 07/31/2014)Committees:House - JudiciaryLatest Action:07/31/2014 Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:25 | 5127285 Da Yooper
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Thank YOU

 

3 co-sponcers- Are we suprised

 

Liberals at it again - guess they are doing it " for the children"

Rep. Kelly, Robin L. [D-IL-2]*

 

Rep. Hastings, Alcee L. [D-FL-20]*

 

Rep. Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [D-NJ-9]*

 

Wasnt Honda caught doing something he shouldnt have back in the spring ?



Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:29 | 5127319 NOTW777
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I am sure all three of them are well protected with arms and body armor

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:32 | 5127337 fuu
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So Simon, you're saying we should store body armor is various global locations in case the SHTF here?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:35 | 5127343 Save_America1st
Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:37 | 5127357 0b1knob
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< One accurate head shot defeats any body armor.

< Two taps to the head just to be sure.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:43 | 5127392 SoberOne
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More likely these guys were bought in order to spur panic buying.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:48 | 5127426 12ToothAssassin
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This bill has 0% chance of passing

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:52 | 5127447 Squid-puppets a...
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do they see how absurd it would have been if a 13th century feudal state banned its citizens from wearing platemail or chainmail armour

back in those days, when you were invaded you often had to rely on an uprising of armed citizens and veterans to help your formal army overcome the invaders

 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:00 | 5127478 SuperRay
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No, they don't.  People are too afraid to know anything.  A nation of sheep who are 0% aware that they are supposed to be responsible for themselves.  

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:26 | 5127600 ACP
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This bullshit proposal reminds me of the end of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, when a cop grabs a guy's shield and says, "That's an offensive weapon, that is!"

@ 2:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRxwBb7ev1Y

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:38 | 5127660 espirit
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Get AR-500 level III while it's cheap.

Link to website at gunbot.net

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:54 | 5127755 MalteseFalcon
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Fuck these guys.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:04 | 5128220 chumbawamba
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BAN CONDOMS!  ONLY TERRISTS USE PROTECTION!

I AM CHUMBAWAMBA!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:59 | 5128381 Ralph Spoilsport
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If they can get away with this, they'll ban gas masks and disposable bio-hazard suits. Then aspirin and first aid kits followed by the Boy Scouts because they are "prepared".

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:14 | 5128430 jeff montanye
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the representative in question, honda, is of japanese extraction and represents silicon valley, the only asian-american majority district in the 48.  wish i trusted the cops as much as he does (or as do his major campaign contribution donors).

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:38 | 5128498 whotookmyalias
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The arrogance of the criminals we elect is stunning.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:36 | 5128599 Richard Chesler
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Baaaah and change!

Yes we can baaaah!

 

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:40 | 5128603 TahoeBilly2012
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I read "Congress needs body armour in the land of the oppressed..."

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 08:14 | 5128979 Headbanger
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WTF sense does this bill make for the liberals if they're so concerned about getting shot in the first place!!

Duhhhhh!!

If anything, the liberals should WANT body armor to protect themselves from all the guns they want to ban.

Also.. Anybody can make fairly effective Level III body armor which will stop most hand gun rounds

Level IV protection from rifle rounds requires hardened steel which is still easily available and workable into body plates.

But as it's been noted here above,  a few head shots makes body armor a futile effort anyway.

 

PS:  They better ban this movie scene too now!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxuVau6qiiw

Cause that's right!

YOU CAN MAKE LEVEL IV BODY ARMOR USING STEEL TARGET PLATES!

What a fucking concept!  So they'll have to ban all steel target plates now too!

And what's next?  Banning sand bags!!?

 

PPS:   If they DO ban body armor and steel target plates and sandbags.. Ice is fairly bullet proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYnrrjdtVys

 

Or better yet..  Just wear a frozen turkey around your neck...  Nobody will say a word!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yySo4p2f_wM

 

Aren't you glad you tuned in now??

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 08:53 | 5129215 LawsofPhysics
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Come on, you know what this is really about, power and control, period.

Here the text of the bill;

 

https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5344/text

 

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 10:43 | 5129649 Headbanger
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Nahhhh.. C'mon..

It's all about selling moar frozen turkeys and you know it!

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 06:07 | 5128859 ImGumbydmmt
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Rep Honda is considered a nut job by many  Japanese, and also considired a stooge for the Chinese and North Koreans. Takes their money and does their bidding. now the co sponsers may be part of another agenda.

but the whole lot needs to go shopping for nailguns.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 06:33 | 5128879 StandardDeviant
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That would be the same sort of Japanese heritage which, in 1942, got a lot of American citizens sent to internment camps by their own government?  Astonishing.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:16 | 5128435 flacon
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A poorly written article rife with grammatical errors. For example: "From that year on until 1953 when Stalin died, it’s estimated that more than 20 million Soviet citizens that were seen as a threat to the country’s leadership." is not a complete sentence. 

 

...and it's "rife" not "ripe". 

 

It's so American to butcher the English language.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:34 | 5128482 Ralph Spoilsport
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I think he just forgot to combine the sentence following the one you cited into one sentence:

From that year on until 1953 when Stalin died, it’s estimated that more than 20 million Soviet citizens that were seen as a threat to the country’s leadership.

People were rounded up and either murdered outright, or sent to infamous gulag labor camps.

Becomes:

From that year on until 1953 when Stalin died, it’s estimated that more than 20 million Soviet citizens that were seen as a threat to the country’s leadership were rounded up and either murdered outright, or sent to infamous gulag labor camps.

That isn't butchering the English language, but more like being in a hurry to get an article out.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:45 | 5128618 silverserfer
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no flacon, that just how we mericans pronounce when we have undecayed full sets of teeth. Dont worry about it chap. Its a cultural thing.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:00 | 5127783 MachoMan
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The body armor manufactuers/vendors have been harping on this for over a week...  trying to sell them to everyone much the same as gun sales following mass shootings.  In the end, they might be able to ban ar500 steel, but can they ban ar500 gongs in the shape of armor plates?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:39 | 5127927 Never One Roach
Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:57 | 5127992 Amish Hacker
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And beer goggles.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 21:26 | 5128084 FEDbuster
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tin foil hats, too.

Of course ass hats are still allowed in Washington D.C.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 21:45 | 5128147 Occams_Chainsaw
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Even if he gets gunned down you can still have the old lady fix you a sammich.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:23 | 5128579 Rockatanski
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AR500 steel does you no good against 556mm 55gr from a 20". Spend the extra and get ceramic. Look it up. 

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 07:39 | 5128994 Headbanger
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Wrong!

Ceramic plates are only good for taking a few rounds versus steel

But they are lighter and don't have the spalling problem steel has.

And what's the big fucking deal about a 20 inch barrel anyway?

Do you thing that really adds much more muzzle velocity?

I have a 22 inch bolt action and a 16 inch semi 556 rifles and get  less than a 100 ft/sec increase with the longer barrel.

Cause does the word FRICTION mean anything to you?

DUHHHHH!

 

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 03:19 | 5128764 Flagit
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Haha, that is what the livecast reporter for Vice said he was wearing.

The banger he was talking with said they had level I and II in the hood.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:40 | 5128331 petolo
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This proposed ban on defensive body armor is very offensive to me.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 07:52 | 5129026 giggler321
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Walmart says armor free with every purchase of AK47

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:25 | 5127886 One World Mafia
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Known as "milkervilles" to induce industry to bribe congress not to pass legislation, but given the zeal with which they are going after firearms, it's a real threat.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:40 | 5127946 blackbeardz
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YES, bought with blackmail from NSA like they can do to anyone

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:14 | 5127538 Oldwood
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Sure, until a cop does it....

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:47 | 5127722 Chupacabra-322
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I see the Criminal Board of Directors (CONgress) of the Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Fraud are running scared now. It's about time. Tic toc, tic toc. We're coming for you, your families & every single vermin around you.

Rubbing hands together.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:23 | 5127872 DeadFred
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In the good ole days when only the elite (knights) had armor the preferred tactics was a slice to the inner leg to sever the femoral artery. Death was assured within a couple minutes and incompacitation took only tens of seconds. Archaeologists can date the battles of the middle ages by lacerations on the theigh bones of the inner portion of the legs since soldiers were trained to strike there automatically even when facing someone without armor. As with kevlar vests chainmail wasn't always obvious in the heat of battle. Just historical data, not meaning to foment rebellion. Of course all this was before Comrade Molotov's days.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:08 | 5128232 chumbawamba
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And before Friar Holy Hand Grenade.

-Chumblez.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:27 | 5128467 Ralph Spoilsport
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And before the little known Nuclear Trebuchet, which lobbed spheres of Yellowcake over the walls until a critical mass was achieved. This was a closely held secret of the Jesuits until 1945 when the Trinity explosion took place. Honest.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:50 | 5128349 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's how Dr Lecter cut a gypsy, who tried to grab him, in Florence, in the book Hannibal.

Dumb asses always shoot for the usual spots, instead of a crippling shit first, and then a more leisurely kill shot.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 05:09 | 5128840 Quinvarius
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Martial Blade Concepts.  They still teach a thigh cut as the goal of a knife fight.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:43 | 5128507 kchrisc
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My gun and badge thug buddy, he hates the what the institution has become as well, was pontificating one night about body armor. I told him that body armor makes it easier to kill a gun and badge thug, but that I would need to shoot twice. He asked how. I said that I would just aim the first shot center mass into his body armor to knock him down and then while he is on the ground, finish him off.

He agreed that that would work.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 11:34 | 5129852 The Boognish
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If your weapon has enough muzzle energy to knock someone down then it would likely go through the armor. Only a few rounds carry enough punch to actually knock someone down without having enough velocity to penetrate a vest. Not surprised that your cop friend was too stupid to know this since he is a cop.

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