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"Isolation Procedures Put In Place" After Ebola Suspect Dies In Ireland; Ebola-Like Disease Claims 70 In Congo

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Last week Ireland rushed to deny that a man with Ebola-like symptoms who was being tested in Dublin, did not have the disease. It may find such a refutation more difficult this time after Irish Times reported that a man was found dead last night in Donegal, after working in Sierra Leone, the epicenter of the current Ebola outbreak, and where "it is understood that a number of colleagues had contracted the virus." The deceased was taken to Letterkenny General Hospital where the HSE is carrying out tests to see whether the death resulted from Ebola.

Letterkenny General Hospital. Photograph: Google Street View

From the Irish Times:

In a statement, the HSE said it was currently assessing a suspected case of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in Donegal.


“The public health department was made aware earlier today of the remains of an individual, discovered early this morning, who had recently travelled to the one of the areas in Africa affected by the current Ebola virus disease outbreak,” it said.


“The appropriate national guidelines, in line with international best practice, are being followed by the public health team dealing with the situation. This means that the body of the deceased has been isolated to minimise the potential spread of any possible virus.”


The statement said blood samples had been sent for laboratory testing to confirm whether or not this individual had contracted Ebola virus disease.


“Until a diagnosis is confirmed, and as a precautionary measure, the individual’s remains will stay in the mortuary pending the laboratory results which are expected late tomorrow.”

As usual, attempts to minimize a panic were implemented and the HSE said the risk of transmission of any disease was considered to be “extremely low”. Nonetheless while tests are being carried out for the Ebola virus, "isolation procedures have been put in place."

Dr Darina O’Flanagan, head of the HSE Health Protection Surveillance Centre, said: “In general, the risk of contracting Ebola virus disease is extremely low and would involve very close personal contact with the infected individual or their body fluids for there to be any risk at all.” “We await the outcome of the laboratory tests before we will know whether or not this individual had contracted Ebola virus disease. The appropriate public health guidelines are being followed at every stage in this process as a precaution.”

And while Ireland awaits results of the latest Ebola test, the Congo, where as we reported yesterday a mysterious Ebola-like disease had claimed the lives of 10 people, has denied the diseases is Ebola, even as the death toll has now soared to some 70 casualties according to Reuters.

A WHO report dated Thursday and seen by Reuters said that 592 people had contracted the disease, of whom 70 died. Five health care workers, including one doctor, are among the dead.


"This is not Ebola," a WHO spokesman said in an email to Reuters on Thursday.


Then again, perhaps the WHO is fibbing just a bit to prevent another all out panic: "A local priest who asked not to be named said that the illness had affected several villages and estimated that the death toll was over 100 people. Kinshasa sent its health minister, Felix Kabange Numbi, and a team of experts on Wednesday to the region after reports of several deaths."

If not Ebola then what? According to WHO, the deaths are the result of an outbreak of hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, a disease prevalent in... dogs? Symptoms of the two diseases are similar; they include vomiting, diarrhoea and internal bleeding. But the fatality rate for this outbreak of haemorrhagic gastroenteritis is much lower than the West Africa Ebola outbreak, at around 12 percent versus close to 60 percent. "The WHO, which sent representatives to the area on Wednesday together with the Congolese team of experts, said four samples would be flown from the town of Boende on Friday to the capital Kinshasa for further testing."

So is the WHO simply trying to prevent the spread of panic and deny that Ebola has now spread to the second largest country in Africa? We will surely find out soon enough, especially if the WHO, too, advises the population "to keep calm and BTFD"...


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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:08 | 5126194 101 years and c...
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maybe he saw a picture of yellen naked and chose death instead of seeing that image play over in his head.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:15 | 5126234 BaBaBouy
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Message From Your Local Politico :

DO NOT PANNICK, No Problems, Everything Under Perfect CONTOL!
Nothing To See...Move Along Now...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:23 | 5126277 pods
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Sounds like they outta look at the newly opened Taco Bell for the source of this latest outbreak. I figure Taco Bell would have about a 12% kill rate.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:29 | 5126317 cougar_w
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It's the pink slime and saw dust factor.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:50 | 5126456 StackShinyStuff
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It's African Rabies.  Break out the Phalanx.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:52 | 5126471 dontgoforit
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Release the Kracken(s). 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:03 | 5126530 MalteseFalcon
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Irish "medical" conversation:

A: "The guy didn't have Ebola fever.  It's a Ebola-like fever."

B: "It's a Ebola-like fever contagious?"

A:  "Yeah."

B: "Did the guy bleed out his eyes, ears and ass?"

A:  "Yeah."

B:  "Did he die?"

A:  "Yeah.  Look It wasn't Ebola, OK?"

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:05 | 5126542 MalteseFalcon
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So this guy flies into where?  Shannon?  Belfast?  Then he treks across the island to Donegal.  But Donegal is already prepared for whatever super contagious hemorrhagic jungle fever that comes along, right?

What could possibly have gone wrong here?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:24 | 5126287 Herd Redirectio...
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There is a new deadly hemorrhagic fever sweeping the world, kills ~55% of those infected.  Its name:

Not Ebola.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:29 | 5126320 kaiserhoff
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Cousin of Ebola.  Marburg maybe?  We gots lotsa names for ya pilgrim, but it's NOT Ebola.  Comprende?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:13 | 5126580 franzpick
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Time for 2 day AMZN/EBAY delivery of some Tyvek suits, hats, boots, gloves and other supplies before the shelves are bare.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:59 | 5126780 bigrooster
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I ordered my N100 masks last week.  You can always use them for painting.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:20 | 5126913 flapdoodle
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I've got some bad news for you... if its like H1N1, the main purpose of the masks is to prevent *you* from passing the disease off to someone else!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:24 | 5127300 Oleander
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You need the P100 particulate filters for viruses, per health agent. They are made in China so stock up before China needs a billion of them and refuses to allow 3M to ship them out.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:30 | 5126337 cougar_w
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Same symptoms, and it looks the same under an electron-microscope -- but that's because it is Not Ebola.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:34 | 5126360 Herd Redirectio...
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Not Ebola!  Get your Not Ebola here!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:51 | 5126464 debtor of last ...
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How's that not ebola corporate antidote working for ya.

Obolacare 'll save y'all.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:21 | 5126934 flapdoodle
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Sorry, the anitdote is reserved for the 1%...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:47 | 5127089 Citxmech
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Dr.:  "I've got some good news and some bad news. . . "

Patient:  "What's the bad news?"

Dr.:  The bad news is that you are sick with something that will probably cause you and half of all your loved ones to die a horrible death - just like Ebola.

Patient:  "What's the good news?"

Dr.:  "The good news is that, in your case, we've decided to call it something else."

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:36 | 5126376 msmith9962
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So all these cases that have been tested negative and released in western countries are still in play then?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:23 | 5126627 loonyleft
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sarc? were they ever not in play?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:53 | 5126735 msmith9962
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Probably not, but that's what the public is led to believe when they announce a negative test and send them into the population.  I must have had a lapse in suspicion.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:17 | 5127551 puckles
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Funny you should mention that:  

In which story a patrician Nigerian lady doc called upon for a second opinion on Sawyer (and unlikely to have come within spitting/pissing distance) was tested for Ebola as per protocol, tested negative, as expected, WAS RELEASED INTO THE PUBLIC, AND THEN DIED OF EBOLA.

She could have infected hundreds of similar types in Lagos by now, including diplomats of various nations.  The UN General Assembly takes place in NYC in the beginning of September.  What better opportunity to wreak mayhem abroad--just consider the, excuse the expression, transit "arterial" systems of NYC...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:42 | 5127870 Central Bankster
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You need to properly cite the story about Dr. Ameyo Stella Adedavoh.  *If* that source can be trusted, this is absolutely terrifying. 


Google turns up:


These sources disagree with a few of your assertions:


1) You say that she was released, in these articles I did not see that mentioned.

2)  You claim she was a second opinion and did not have likely contact with Sawyer.  In these articles she was described as the PRIMARY doctor, and that she had close physical contact (she allegedly physically restrained Sawyer).

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:38 | 5126392 Ms. Erable
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Must be a cheap Chinese knock-off. Damned US Patents getting in the way of a good name that might go viral.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:18 | 5126608 smokintoad
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Reminds me of the old margarine commercials...

"I can't believe it's not Ebola!"

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:08 | 5127521 Kassandra
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Another keyboard ruined...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:24 | 5126290 American Dreams
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Not to say that trust is not already blown to hell by the WHO, CDC, etc. etc. but as soon as one of these white English, Irish, American doctors contracts the virus and drops a handy you tube video stating as such, its game on.  Then, not only will all trust be gone, but acute anger will replace said trust right fuckin now which will make FergieMO will look like Disney Land. 

Know your enemy


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:54 | 5126485 dontgoforit
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Pogo:  We have met the enemy and he is us.

Ok.  I agree.  But if you find out we really are the bad guys....what then?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:35 | 5126671 Alea Iactaest
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The slums of West Point (Monrovia, Liberia), home to some 75,000 people, make it clear that this particular Ebola outbreak is not “the” Ebola outbreak. There is no way that quarantine would work in the US until R2KBA is dismantled. I don’t see how an armed population would allow that to happen. In the meantime, imagine being among the 75,000 souls trapped…

(Reuters 20/08/14) - Police in the Liberian capital fired live rounds and tear gas on Wednesday to disperse a stone-throwing crowd trying to break an Ebola quarantine imposed on their neighbourhood, as the death toll from the epidemic in West Africa hit 1,350.

In the sprawling oceanfront West Point neighbourhood of Monrovia, at least four people were injured in clashes with security forces, witnesses said. It was unclear whether anyone was wounded by the gunfire, though a Reuters photographer saw a young boy with his leg largely severed just above the ankle.

Liberian authorities introduced a nationwide curfew on Tuesday and put the West Point neighbourhood under quarantine to curb the spread of the disease.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:31 | 5126350 Urban Redneck
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Well if you see something that resembles the post below, don't bother saying something... and proceed directly to hysterical scream queen panic.

From the ZH way back machine (25.03.2014):

The MoH in [Country] came out with an announcement this morning that two of the deaths due to hemorrhagic fever in [City] in recent days "tested negative" for whatever specific Ebola strains that the [Lab Name] tested for, and put this gem as to cause of death in their press release "haemorrhagic fever whose nature remains to be determined"

Which do you trust more- the growing pile of corpses or the health department spokes-bitches?

I really hope this tactic doesn't get the Rinse, Repeat treatment.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:56 | 5127146 Citxmech
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Hey - if it spreads like Ebola, and Kills like Ebola - it sure as fuck can't be Ebola, right?


Seriously though - this could indeed be a different strain that deserves a distinct identification - but at this point, who the fuck cares about semantics?  What's important is the nature of this bug and how best to deal with it.  The less we know about this particular strain - the more nervous it should make all of us.



Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:02 | 5128552 Urban Redneck
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By my count there could actually be three, one in Congo and two in West Africa (which would be required if the bioweapon conspiracy theorists were within a light year of the truth).

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:21 | 5126263 e_goldstein
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Jackson Hole hottub porn...


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:38 | 5126388 drendebe10
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Lemme see here...

1.  Alleged 170 health workers wearing protective equipment have contracted Ebola.

2.  Two US workers with Ebola were transported to Atlanta for treatment at Emory. One was discharged.

3.  Now there is a case of someone who had worked in the Ebola outbreak epicenter, traveled to Ireland (?public transportation) and subsequently died.  Not yet confirmed Ebola but if it looks like a duck, flies like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be Ebola.

4.  Ebola virus has a case fatality rate of greater than 50%

Holy fukn cow...  isounds like it's jumped the big water barriers to me and is destined for bigger and better things....  as Samuel L. Jackson said in Jurassic Park:  "Hold on to your butts."

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:54 | 5126480 Da Yooper
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"Hold on to your butts."


Naw barry has another round of golf to play.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:15 | 5127546 Whitenoise
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Several news outlets have reported that Nancy Whitebol was released today as well.  They're fine, all's well.  Nothing to see here ... move on. 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:41 | 5126404 Occams_Chainsaw
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Certainly would cause bleeding from the eyes...

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 00:47 | 5127365 MsCreant
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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:09 | 5126196 Count Laszlo
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Things are looking up!  Don't worry, please everyone... go back to sleep.  

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:23 | 5126279 Kirk2NCC1701
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Wasn't there some UN/WHO lab located in "World War Z"?

Where Brad Pitt saves the entire fucking world this time?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:50 | 5126453 Sudden Debt
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Wasn't the trick to inject yourself with another virus?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:26 | 5126639 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOl, yeah. Since the Zombie virus did not care for people with terminal diseases (could detect/smell) them from far off, like a dog, he diced to "hide" from the Zombie virus by injecting himself with a deadly pathogen that could be killed with a timely antidote.

Happened at some lab in Ireland.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:17 | 5127553 Whitenoise
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It was in Cardiff, Wales.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:08 | 5126197 blabam
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Ebola quarantine chaos: Police fire on desperate crowds


West Point, a 'suburb' of Monrovia (Liberian Capital) is (now) under quarantine.

West Point is a township (the administrative equivalent of a city ward) of the Liberian capital city of Monrovia, located on a peninsula which juts out into the Atlantic Ocean between the Mesurado and Saint Paul rivers. Home to approximately 75,000 people, it is one of Monrovia's most densely populated neighorhoods.

The area lacks proper sanitation.[2] The area lacks public toilets[3] and a report by United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs estimates that there are four public toilets in the area.[4] Pay toilets exist, but residents cannot afford them, and thus public defecation is common.[4] The beach surrounding West Point is often used a lavatory which creates health hazards as the water is used for drinking and fish from the water are consumed.
Read more at 

Warning graphic vid:

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:18 | 5126245 Skateboarder
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Four public toilets for 75,000 people? You're better off having none, instead of making them compete like animals and reducing their dignity.

Don't these people know you gotta bury your poo, or at least create septic tanks for accumulated usage? That's like one of the oldest things we've been doing. Or are they so densely packed in a crappy city that there is no ground?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:23 | 5126272 blabam
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Vice was in West Point a couple of years ago... gives you a nice impression:

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:32 | 5126354 dracos_ghost
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Wow. Absolutely horrible.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:06 | 5126538 franzpick
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75K people held in 'open air confinement' in West Point (and other areas) with no sanitation, medical attention, rehydration, food or supplies - are an Ebola disaster in the making: W.H.O.'s report tomorrow will show even faster growing Liberian infections and deaths for 8/19-20, but lack of body bags, burial locations and recovery teams means lagging WHO stats which may way understate actual deaths and new cases:

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:17 | 5126600 Herd Redirectio...
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If anyone is allowed out of West Point, I will be surprised.

The area will be razed and rebuilt by new owners (much like Gaza).  From open air prison, to open air execution ground.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:02 | 5126803 Jack Burton
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Yestery Days UK "Daily Mail" has a series of pictures of the blockade of West Point.  On big hell hole, with troops on guard in masks, dead laying in the streets. Pictures of a teenage boy shot by troops in both legs laying in a street, apparently he tried to leave West Point. If ever you wanted a reason to leave Africa to itself and curb immigration to the EU and USA, I suggest you see those pictures. Nothing good comes out of the Dark Continent. Old Europeans called it Dark for many reasons. I know sections in London that look like Africa.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:31 | 5127330 sushi
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West Point is best thought of as a 75K Ebola Virus Incubation and Test Centre. Given the nature of the unsanitary conditions and close quarter living arrangements, once Ebola takes hold you are looking at 75K oppostunities for this virus to mutate into something even more deadly.

Its hard to keep a good virus down.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:54 | 5127450 Monty Burns
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I know sections in London that look like Africa.

Parts of Ireland as well.  And they display all the symptoms of Africa.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:09 | 5126557 MalteseFalcon
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"reducing their dignity"  LOL.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:19 | 5126252 pods
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And that story is quite telling as to why disease is rampant in Africa and other third world areas.

You could spray this from airplanes in the US and would never come close to even a 50% kill rate.

This has more to do with people suffering from chronic malnutrition than anything else.  When you drink, wash, shit, and eat fish from the same waters you can count on being unhealthy.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:20 | 5126261 fonzannoon
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"You could spray this from airplanes in the US"

we give away all the best ideas on here to .gov for free

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:31 | 5126655 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOL. It's called Crowd-sourcing.

Because crowds are fucking cheap, like sluts.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:35 | 5126370 Toxicosis
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Agreed.  However, plenty of North American's are "overnourished" with calories from sugar, carbs, rancid fats, and typical overeating and over beveraging themselves.  And they are very undernourished with what is necessary to maintain or support immunity.  Honestly, coffee, cigarettes, super big gulps do not enhance either innate or acquired immunity, thus we might be quite surprised how quickly this continent succumbs to this infection.  And lets face it, the homeless would probably spread this in a city like wildfire.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:51 | 5126457 pods
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Oh, Amerikans are about as unhealthy as it gets, until you start to compare them with the third world.  

Most amerikans are suffering from malnutrition (I use this term to describe deficiencies in everything but macro nutrients) but consume way too many calories.

We do have the luxury of (cleanish) running water, flush toilets, and soap.  And that goes a LONG way in staying healthy.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:51 | 5126463 jbvtme
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so would the catholic priests

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:16 | 5126594 general ambivalent
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You've been saying this, however it is simply untrue. Exposure to bacteria allows a person to build up defenses, and attempting to wipe out all bacteria with an aseptic landscape forces the bacteria to become stronger while the humans no longer have any exposure. If anything, Africans should have a better immune system than us and Oceanians may end up dying at even higher rates.

The pesticide, salt, and bleached wheat diet Oceanians live on does not leave much of a defense system. Our health is good relative to the world because of the medical care for babies at birth, the climate reduces diseases, medicine and aseptic practises have wiped out many of the diseases, and we are wealthy enough to have at least basic medical care. None of this suggests better immune systems. Diseases will return to our shores through the medical strengthening (not to mention bioengineering) and become like the superweeds.

More than likely we have immune systems geared towards different protective needs. Our Monsanto leaky-guts and extreme lack of exercise won't help us much though.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:54 | 5127756 Socratic Dog
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There was an outbreak of cholera in Bali about 10 years ago.  Food and water-borne bacteria.  Only people affected were Japanese tourists.

Japs are about the cleanest people on the face of the earth.

There's a very strong message in that.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:20 | 5126254 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Here's a video from Vice magazine. Back in 2010 this place was already a complete hell hole:


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:30 | 5126330 Tenshin Headache
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and now 90% of the residents may die. Inconceivable.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:30 | 5126334 pods
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Wow, that was almost unbelievable.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:21 | 5126259 cougar_w
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West Point.

Let's see how long before the troglodites come up with an ebola conspiracy involving the Navy.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:29 | 5126319 Herd Redirectio...
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I can cook up something involving the Nazis and Operation Paperclip, but the Navy?  Thats a tough sell.  Although Ebola is known for its fondness of semen.  Zing.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:04 | 5127185 trader1
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the annapolis clan is too busy kicking out nuke test cheaters

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:36 | 5126374 General Decline
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."public defecation "


Great band.  I saw them in 1996.  they opened for Ministry

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:48 | 5127421 Monty Burns
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An African suburb lacks proper sanitation???  You can't be serious.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:09 | 5126200 ebworthen
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Not Ireland!  The pubs, the beer!  And...the pubs & beer!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:11 | 5126211 PAPA ROACH
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1918 spanish flu all over again...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:11 | 5126212 McMolotov
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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:19 | 5126253 Kirk2NCC1701
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Is the hyphen to avoid Copyright infringement (5125621) of Obola"?


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:30 | 5126327 Wile-E-Coyote
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Jasus; black Murphy will do anything to get attention!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:28 | 5126310 TabakLover
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Irish pubs ain't what they used to be since the do-gooders banished smoking.  Nothing goes with a pint of Guinness like a pipeful of Peterson's finest.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:44 | 5126416 ebworthen
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Bummer, didn't know that. 

No smoking in a pub/bar is like no tits or ass in a strip club.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:11 | 5128422 NoPension
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Maybe after eeee-bol-llaaaa kills off the fucking do gooders, we can smoke in bars again.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:10 | 5126204 Itch
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Top of the mourning...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:22 | 5126266 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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"When Irish eyes are bleeding, sure is like a mourn in spring..."

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:11 | 5126210 morning
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thanks, tyler.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:12 | 5126218 Dr. Engali
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This is not the Ebola you are looking for. This is a different Uhmmmm sickness that just happens to be like Ebola ....., but it's not.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:21 | 5126257 msmith9962
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It's not ebola!  This is totally different because you can get it through the air.  Relax everyone, not ebola.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:18 | 5126606 franzpick
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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:41 | 5127381 Itch
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Ebola gay.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:25 | 5126289 Tenshin Headache
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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:23 | 5126623 general ambivalent
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It's Monsantbola.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:12 | 5126225 morning
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Confirmation of new strain and media obfuscation

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:08 | 5126818 Central Bankster
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3 Weeks ago, when ZH reported that a canadian doctor working in an outbreak zone had flown a commercial airliner and then self quarantined himself only after he arrived back home in Canada, a thread started on ZH, which was quite heated.  I was considered "hysterical" by a poster (self described expert), and received about 33% downvotes for saying that it is irresponsible and reckless to be putting that many people at risk when we cannot be *100% certain* about asymptomatic transmission/airborne transmission("airborne" in laymens terms).


My comment remains, the most dangerous people in the world are those who act only on the "known risks" and never take into account the "unknown risks" or as Marc Faber has been known to say: the "unknowable" risks.  Interesting distinctions ;).


And so here we have one of those "unknowns" but was certainly not "unknowable".  Infact I would argue on a long enough time frame, it is the most probable that this would eventually happen (mutation) and so extra precaution should've prevailed.   It's a different strain, with a different (probable) transmission characteristics than the known ebola strains.  It is the likley explanation for all these healthcare workers getting infected and I think it was obvious weeks ago, that this was a possibility, quite frankly.


As an aside, I sometimes wonder if our medical experts suffer from the same cognitive bias' that our financial experts suffer from?


Thanks for the link.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:41 | 5127681 puckles
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You, sir, do not live down to your name/moniker by displaying such discernment. However, I would add to your argument of presumed knowable unkowns another factor.  The epicenter of the current breakout was next to a Tulane University-sponsored "Lassa Fever" Lab, in Kenema. Sierra Leone. Related sites were in Guinea and Nigeria...  Tulane's link for government sponsorship is currently down, but I have seen before that these labs had funding from DOD, not broken down.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:58 | 5127776 Socratic Dog
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Tulane?  Seem to recall that they were the ones working on the cancer virus in the 50's.  The one intended to kill Castro.  That Jack Ruby may have been killed with.  Also, I recall, mixed up with the cancer-virus contaminated polio vaccine in the same period.  Good pedigree.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:14 | 5126230 Frank N. Beans
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'e fergot to eat 'is Lucky Charms poor lad


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:14 | 5126231 Old Man River
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Stay healthy my ZH friends.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:21 | 5126614 franzpick
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By staying home.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:16 | 5126237 crazybob369
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I just heard that they released that doc that came back to the U.S. infected with Ebola. Just curious; how do they know that that shit ain't still in his system and he's not going to be walking around infecting people? I'm no doctor, but if this is a new mutated virus, who knows what its capabilities are. Just find it strange how many medical people are getting infected though their protective gear.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:11 | 5126858 Central Bankster
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The answer is that they don't know for sure, but they are willing to gamble, for the sake of "everything is under control" media blitz.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:59 | 5127780 puckles
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Well, they do "know", presumably one thing, because they have been blasting it over at least the variety of print media that gets translated to the Internet, and that is that semen holds the virus for a truly bizarre number alleged to be 61 days AFTER the patient is "cured," i.e., well in feeling and appearance.  Frankly, with so very little known about survivors of this horrid virus, as there have been so very few, with virtually no Western investigators taking standardized tests and tabulating the results thereof in any rationalized manner (except to say that, oh, yeah, if you can get a blood match [that won't otherwise kill you] from a recovered patient, a transfusion is your way out--get those antibodies now!), it is very difficult to posit that they really "know" anything about this particular mutant of E. Zaire. And make no mistake, it is a mutant--in some manner, whether natural or otherwise.  It is not following the path programme of the prior E. Zaire. 


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:18 | 5126244 cougar_w
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The Congo thing is really interesting.

You should all understand by now that the ebola virus becoming less lethal is adaptive. It can travel further and spread among more people.

If this turns out to be ebola, then a 20% fatality rate is a big fucking deal if as a result it can hit millions of people instead of just a few hundred. Influenza nearly destroyed the human world several times with a lethality like that (or less).

Just say'n. This is why I always remind you all to pay attention. Don't flip out, don't dig a hole under your garage, don't run down and buy up all the toilet paper.

Pay attention.

That is all.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:20 | 5126255 morning
Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:25 | 5126296 cougar_w
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Ha! I am vindicated.

"As I’ve previously stated we cannot make assumptions on the behavior of this variant based on that of the Zaire strain, neither can we rule out a higher predilection for airborne droplet spread."

Of course Congo is a long way from Liberia, in this case. But if we've got an evolving ebola on our hands then every part of Africa is potentially within reach.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:39 | 5126393 morning
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I have been ridiculed by "specialists" on twitter for 5 weeks. I said sweat, aerosol, lower kill rate, asymptomatic transmission and longer float. ridiculed and accused of fearmongering by, of course, the academic agenda-keepers. Moar funding, moar progress, moar awareness and fewer religious practices. 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:55 | 5126488 cougar_w
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It's simpler than that; doctors like generals are always fighting the last war. Their tricks only work for things they know, so that is all they want to talk about.

Doctors are not the smartest people in the room. I would say the personality profile required to stick it out through mind-numbing med-school and soul-destroying internships pretty much weeds out anyone with actual intelligence.

If you want the real scoop on things like ebola, talk to an epidemiologist or even better, a field microbiologist. I happen to be the latter (tho my micro is a bit weak). We don't know anything about the disease progression and frankly don't care, but we know just about everything can be said about viral hosts, host reservoirs, disease vectors, endemic disease, disease dynamics as a predator/prey model, environmental triggers, acquisition of resistance, micro-evolution, trans-specific migration, virus hybridization, the role of bacteria in virus evolution.

It's an interesting field.

Doctors don't know fuck all about it and unless there is a pill then can sell you, don't want to know.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:00 | 5126516 morning
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<----- physicist (10 yrs married to citology expert)


_morning_ on twitter.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:19 | 5126923 Tenshin Headache
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cytology, I suspect

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:02 | 5127789 Socratic Dog
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He meant "clitology".

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:58 | 5126782 samsara
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"field microbiologist"

Weren't there a rash of unexplained deaths of that occupation a few years back???

Google   "mysterious microbiologists deaths"

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:07 | 5126845 cougar_w
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I did just that.

Those were all lab people listed as dead. I couldn't rule out that some of those deaths might have been mysterious. The entire list could easily be coincidence. There are a lot of lab workers at universities, many are well known. A string of freakish accidents over a couple years involving well-known names would not be a real stretch.

I wouldn't even be looking for deaths. I would be looking for disappearances. Think about the difference and you'll see my point.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 19:40 | 5127507 Citxmech
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You may find this anecdote interesting Coug.  My wife just finished reading that paper that reports Ebola moving from Pigs to Monkeys with no direct contact - and apparently their conclusions were that either the effect was because of their cage cleaning protocol - or they think that pigs may produce mucous that is particularly susceptible to producing small airborne droplets.

PS  I'm not seeing the mortality rate decreasing in the stats - unlike conventional wisdom would dictate. . . 

and the rate of transmission seems to be holding at a doubling period of about a month or so.  One or both of these trends needs to break really soon or my SHTF meter is going to peg. 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:50 | 5126718 Parrotile
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With each passage through the "new host" (us), we must expect to see better host adaptation (for the virus). This is seen with ALL viruses - human, animal, plant, even bacterial (bacteriophage).

I'm amazed by the mis-information on the Net regarding this organism. It is MINUTE, so any respireable droplet (1 micron or less) will be able to accommodate tens of millions of virions; we KNOW it can survive on exposed surfaces, maybe for days, so we know it can survive desiccation (as can all viruses), and seems to be reasonably tolerant of environmental UV.

So it is surely not such a leap of faith to expect it to survive at least as long (i.e. days, not hours) on the dried sub-micron protein residues from expired air - or better still, the abundant small (and persistent) aerosol produced by a single sneeze or cough. Much below one micron, and Brownian motion ensures permanent suspension, so permanent availability to a future host. Even larger particles may simply settle on clothing, and be resuspended when the clothing ir removed, brushed (even by contact), or shaken, so providing yet another potential infective locus.

If the emergent data are true, it's not just every part of Africa which is "in reach", rather, every part of the globe. Combine this with a reasonably long incubation period, pretty non-descript initial symptoms, and we DO have a MAJOR problem.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:05 | 5127144 Central Bankster
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Great post and thanks.


Correct me if I'm wrong, Every potential host has different thresholds for infection?  Some people will require relatively more exposure than others, different animals, different transmission methods etc.  So the fact that these are in an environment, suspended for time, doesn't really tell us about how easily transmitted this virus will be?  I was reading an article the other day explaining why pigs/bats/monkies/rats all have different susceptability to different types of virus because the threshold of exposure required per virus is higher (though each individual within a group has different characterstics as well I understand).  Could you care to explain this more?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 22:07 | 5128231 Parrotile
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Essentially correct, and you'll know there's often a subtle susceptibility difference between hosts within a species. The actual number of virions needed to guarantee an infection is not known for us (although there is good experimental evidence for a pretty low tissue-culture infecting dose, but TCID (50) does not necessarily translate accurately). I'd guess 100 - 1000 virions "would certainly do the trick" but fewer would probably be as effective.

Whilst it'll be bad news for us all, it will be interesting to see if there is a prolongation of the incubation period within different populations (populations in any one Country are often (but not always) fairly homogeneous from a genetic viewpoint). So, if the disease spreads from Africa to e.g. Norway, maybe there will be an initial longer incubation period?? I've NO proof this will happen, but I do know this sort of thing happens when cross-infecting purebred (so genetically as-identical-as-possible) strains of mice and rats. The delay is not substantial, but is sometimes noticeable.

I would never have expected Ebola to be "The" next big problem; MERS-CoV maybe (and that's still out there in the ME), but never Ebola, simply 'cause it's "never happened in the past". Well, it has now, and I'm justifiably VERY concerned.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:13 | 5127234 trader1
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in the CDC report, there is absolutely NO mention that we're dealing with a new EBOV strain.

that, or i need better glasses...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:48 | 5126369 Dr. Engali
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I don't need to buy up toilet paper, there will be plenty of FRN's lying around for that.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:27 | 5126640 franzpick
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My 50 packs of coffee filters in 1 medium box will last the family for months. Hikers, hunters, mountain climbers know the trick.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:43 | 5126410 gcjohns1971
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You are right.

A wise self-reliant person should be keeping (and should always have been keeping) the material supplies to survive a month or two of quarantine - to include toilet paper.

The fact that it makes so many other of life's little mishaps (like hurricanes', earthquakes, tornados, currency and market crashes, etc) less like mountains to fear and more like molehills to fondly remember overcoming, is just a bonus.

Maybe that is why the 'authorities' and mainstream meadia are so anxious to apply the 'doomsday' label to this kind of behavior.

But most peoples' grandparents and great grandparents, who lived the first half of the last century, would have thought such 'preparations' to be as banal and routine as milk and peaches.

A lot of modernity, unfortunately, is intentionally desigend to foster dependence. 

(Like why have an electric 'grid' when it is possible to generate power locally, with equal efficiency at the generator, and without the addition infrastructure of 'the grid' being needed at all?)

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:51 | 5126723 samsara
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Maybe "They" are opening a second front with a different disease.

Naw....  WHO would want to reduce the globe's population?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 20:12 | 5127822 puckles
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OHHH, Cougar, how very right you are.  It is by far the most dangerous sign seen in this strain.  It is a very wily virus indeed, because it has now become adapted to strike major cities, instead of tiny interior villages (near its original postualted forest host) that it wiped out before spreading further.  If I recall correctly, the Spanish flu pandemic only killed 3-5% worldwide, primarily in a postwar world.  Just imagine if this thing hit into a (real) war season, which is due on the horizon quite soon.  I cannot imagine it--it would be Biblical in its proportions.

Fri, 08/22/2014 - 01:43 | 5128709 California Nigh...
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Lethality of the great flu pandemic, c. 1918, was below 3%.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:18 | 5126248 carbonmutant
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Reuters link not working...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:18 | 5126249 Intoxicologist
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When Irish Eyes Are Bleeding

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:15 | 5126591 tony wilson
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please do not kiss der blarney stone if you have ebola.

as hangin upside down on rocks for any length of time will allow shit to pump out of your neck and face.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:21 | 5126262 Tenshin Headache
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That doesn't sound good at all. That is a lot of people to be discovered to have the disease, so it is likely highly infectious. And the fatality rate is high enough to do some serious damage. Fasten your seatbelts.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:28 | 5126312 cougar_w
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Yeah that doctor going all "we have all this mysterious cases but it's hard to catch so don't worry" sounded completely disconnected from reality. They better be careful or nobody will even listen to them anymore, not even when they have something sensible to say.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:47 | 5126436 Winston Churchill
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Its the we are exceptional shit eater grin they display that concerns me most.

I wonder if the mutant has been told about that , and so will ignore America.

Didn't work for the two brought back here.

We appear to have a mutant strain of unknown capabilities yet carry on commercial flights from

known infected areas.

Nice epitath:

They all died exceptionaly.


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:57 | 5126503 cougar_w
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"They all died exceptionaly."


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:22 | 5126278 novictim
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Ireland? What a benighted land.  No doubt the establishment will undermine quarantine and isolation guidelines in order to "protect the rights of the unborn".

Catholicism really fucked this country over starting with its advancement of English colonization and its complicity in the subjugation of native Irish.  How can you respect a people that puts up with the unbelievable shit perpetrated by "The Church of Rome" ?  I use quotes because the real Church of Rome should really be dedicated to Jupiter, Juno and Minerva!


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:51 | 5126458 youngman
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Ireland is safe..I heard you cant catch Ebola if you are drunk....

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:15 | 5126585 Winston Churchill
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What about the Holy hour ?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 16:28 | 5126650 franzpick
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No Irishman every walked away from a good blight.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:28 | 5126294 Hongcha
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Christ on a bike ... they are going to jack this bullshit up for all it's worth.  The news is just a tedious train of jawjacking self-righteous, alarmist bullshit these days.

The upside is, I have some flying to do later this year and maybe people will back off and allow me and Mrs. Cha a free upgrade or 2, much like the 'SARS Crisis' on 2003 ...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:32 | 5126352 Herd Redirectio...
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This is the bottomline in a modern day crisis.

If its  a small crisis, do nothing.

If its a medium crisis, talk about what you are considering doing, but continue to do nothing.

Once the crisis is large, or even HUGE, go overboard, ignoring all precedents, guidelines, laws, limits on authority, etc.  And then insist it had to be done that way, then, and going forward.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:31 | 5126340 I Write Code
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I can't keep any of this straight anymore, what do we send Ireland for this, F-18s carrying bombs or vaccines?  Guess both, just to be safe.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:30 | 5126343 walküre
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watch for a spike on CDS for Irish bonds....

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:31 | 5126348 gcjohns1971
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" is the WHO simply trying to prevent the spread of panic"


In a word... yes.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:47 | 5126433 Tenshin Headache
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Symptoms of gastroenteritis include abdominal cramps, nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, fever/chills, dehydration and weakness.

Add blood loss for hemorrhagic. That and dehydration would be the causes of death I imagine.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:49 | 5126450 Winston Churchill
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Avoid the number 7 combo with egg rolls.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:33 | 5128484 NoPension
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Sounds like side effects of one of the dozens of drugs advertised on the tee vee. What should I do if I get a four hour boner?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:55 | 5126496 buzzsaw99
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+1 they want the ebola to spread, not the panic.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:35 | 5126373 himaroid
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Nothing that a good volcanic explosion can't fix. Fokkers will bleed to death before they can swim to Ireland.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:36 | 5126375 Tenshin Headache
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The link to the Reuters article doesn't work. Here it is:

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:46 | 5126422 Ribeye
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lol, the fckn HSE kill more people in one month then this outbreak has, 


id rather spend the night in a cheap hotel in Sierra Leone then in one of their hospitals, 

socialized helthcare baby, welcome to the deathfest America, 

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:40 | 5127371 Monty Burns
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+1000.  My brother went in to Cork UCH to get a toenail removed and ended up contracting MRSA and dying six months later.


Like the Irish Army, the deadliest killers are the cooks and doctors!

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:45 | 5126425 q99x2
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God doesn't like black folk.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:38 | 5127361 Monty Burns
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Er, know anyone who does?

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:47 | 5126435 debtor of last ...
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Yeah, close borders and airports and blow up iou's and derivatives way before 2020, as planned. Can't have that.

There are no American tanks in Bagdad, hahaha.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:48 | 5126439 youngman
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I was going to make billions selling my new T Shirt.....


I had Ebola and alls I got was this casket...

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:49 | 5126440 tony wilson
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remember der patay toe famine when all der micks and molly malones went to london and ameriga alive a live o.

it comin again no potato blight today just congo ebola bongo.

vomit,snot,piss and bloody shit good jobs us paddies have new york and boston as a bolt hole.

honorary oirishman george soros will help wid der airfare and gettin us jobs in hospitals and restaurants big man he is.

dat yids an honorary mick i tells ya helpin us outta here  un alls.

Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:52 | 5126452 Tenshin Headache
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Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:53 | 5126462 Blazed
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Who is leading the way flooding Ireland, Europe, and the Western world with dangerous third world populations? In Ireland alone, just this one parasite by itself caused quite a bit of damage.

"Alan Joseph Shatter; the only current Jewish MP. Shatter was born in Dublin to a Jewish family.

He was educated at The High School, Dublin and Trinity College, Dublin. Wants to ban traditional sports such as hunting. An outspoken defender of Israeli policies in the Gaza Strip, was compared to Joseph Goebbels by Aengus Ó Snodaigh of Sinn Féin.

Shatter is also the man who has done more to destroy the family in Ireland than any other single individual. Much of the law "reform" in family law has been driven by him.

The Judicial Separation & Family Law Act, 1989 was his private members bill. There's more to nation-wrecking than just importing aliens.

Ireland: Alan Shatter (Jewish) in charge of Justice, Equality, Defence, Immigration

Ireland is about 1/6000th Jewish | by comparison; Denmark 1/700

  • The Dublin Government is 1/15th Jew
  • There’s only 1 Jewish politician in the whole country
  • He’s in control of over 1/2 of the government’s most important ministries

I wonder how that happened?"


Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:57 | 5126505 paddyirishman
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+1000 Blazed, fucking kikes destroying everywhere, the useless cunt shatter opened the gates, now Ireland is like little africa full of useless dumb leeching niggers, it was only a matter of time,and yet they won't stop the monkeys coming in or throw the ones already here out, stupid goyim political correct traitors.

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