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Trouble In Socialist Paradise: Maduro Rating Plummets As Shoppers Prepare To Be Fingerprinted
It appears Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has run out of other people's money. Just 8 months after his exuberant 60% approval rating at the end of last year after local elections (appealing to the ever-more-impoverished ultra-poor who remain entirely dependent on his 'fairness'), the socialist leader's popularity has plunged. As Bloomberg reports, Hinterlaces polling shows only a 39% approval rating (oddly similar to President Obama's). There are numerous reasons of course, but we suspect the news that Maduro has announced a mandatory grocery fingerprinting system to combat food shortages, will not exactly endear him to his 'followers'.
Hope and Change, it appears, fades after socialists win elections...
Maduro Approval Rating Falls to 39% in Venezuela: Hinterlaces
The President’s rating has fallen from abt 60% after Dec. 8 local elections, director of Hinterlaces polling company, Oscar Schemel, comments by phone.
But this is even better... (via AP)
Venezuelans soon may need to have their fingerprints scanned before they can buy bread.
President Nicolas Maduro has announced a mandatory grocery fingerprinting system to combat food shortages.
He said late Wednesday the program will stop people from buying too much of a single item, but did not say when it would take effect.
The move was met with skepticism. Critics say the new system is tantamount to rationing and constitutes a breach of privacy.
The socialist South American country has been grappling with shortages of basics like cooking oil and flour for more than a year. The administration blames the shortages on companies speculating and people smuggling subsidized staples out of the country.
In the spring, Venezuela tried a similar system in government-run supermarkets on a voluntary basis.
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Coming to an American grocer near you soon...?
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"It appears Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has run out of other people's money."
Famous quote from Margaret Thatcher, who gave middle class money to bankers, MIC and other oligarchs. Sad that this meme lives on as an ode to capitalism versus socialism, without mention of fascism. VZ was a victim of -- among other things -- the IMF. The fascist police state mechanism of control.
This looks more like a test bed for fancy new slave technology the NWO plans to roll out across the globe over the next few years.
I am Chumbawamba.
boy , good thing this kinda stuff could never happen here ! USA ! USA !
EBT! EBT! EBT!
Regards,
Cooter
Out of money? Yet he can spin up a fingerprint scanning system with the associated hardware?
Why not just go to war?
Krugman would be happy, patriotic fervor runs high, politicians ratings increase, rationing is understandable for the state's efforts...
I mean this is dipshit JV stuff
Oh Hi, Mr K. Sure, just do the imprint for me. Oh, you're good. Here's your 1/2 condom for the week. Look at that Mr K! It says "I love big brother" right on the side! Lucky you. Not many people get them that nice. Have a nice day.
The most vicious of all crimes commited against us are the ones we open the front door for and invite in.
Not replying to you just taking the space...
Tyler-algos reaching with these socialist paradise titles and shit. AS IF fingerprinting to ID for WHATEvER the fuck in some derivative of the same debt money system is dependent on being a socialist paradise.
Yeah ok Tylers... Fingerprinting, eye scan, body imaging are coming only to a socialist utopia near you. Could never happen here in rick perry and tea party trilateral government commission of free enterprisers.
I'm tired of this shit... I expect more. Someone needs to say it.
Nicolas Maduro is a Jew. Of course the country is descending into chaos. The next step is to send back the IMF to force the government to wring out every last shekel from taxation and anything that can be nationalised.
How dumb is Venezuela? The Jews poison their last leader so they elect a Jew. That is like hiring a fox to guard the chicken coop.
Everyone should read Henry Ford "The International Jew", still valid (and scary), watch Professor Kevin MacDonald's vids on youtube, and read "The nameless war" by Captain Ramsay. The Jews are moving on to their end game.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ijtoc_.htm
http://iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.War/0...
Henry Ford was a real paragon of virtue if you can over look the fact that he was a Nazi sympathizer who knocked up his secretary and forced his chauffer to claim he was the father. as well as had his son, Edsel murdered.
Ford did nothing remotely as bad as you hasbara and your tribe have done, how about the recent killing done in Ukraine on behalf of you dual citizens for starters, Ford told the truth.
It's a leaderless group without a leader. Nikki Haley SC Gov.
I'm disabled and have no hands how can I buy my carrot? what else do they accept 4 bio-print?
Please go crawl back under your rock, and take your links with you. Surely the 20th century taught us what loathsome views like these can lead to.
fuckin hasbara troll, of course you want us to forgot you lot are the cause of our problems, damn money changing bastards, What Ford said is more relevant than ever.
Wow it only took nine post to turn another thread into "The Jews" Some people are really obsessed with this tribe.
I'm tired of this shit... I expect more. Someone needs to say it.
So you expect MOAR as if you deserve MOAR?
Somehow you feel entitled to MOAR?
You rudely jump in to make certain that you have position because YOUR POST is so damned important...somehow.
Then you make that type of demand?
So...How much do you pay for this service the Tyler's provide?
Perhaps you need to contribute MOAR rather than freeload from their work. Or...STOP WHINING LIKE A ENTITLED little SOCIALIST BITCH.
This is one helluva lot better than most anything the mainstream media has to publish.
Instead of moaning like a fucking whore who was not paid maybe you ought to express some appreciation for what you get.
"Instead of moaning like a fucking whore who was not paid maybe you ought to express some appreciation for what you get."
Is your real name Tyrone Tom? And do you drive an old Lincoln and enjoy hats?
Who says I don't appreciate every opportunity to expose those who unequivocally settle for mediocrity just cuz the source.?. Take your better than mainstream sell side and shove it up your ass.
You just want me to sound like you. Otherwise I'm just freeloading or whining and under appreciating. I get it and fuck you Jobu.
Call me a socialist (actually, I don’t see it as an insult), but I expect more all the time. No, I demand more.
More truth, more nuances, more facts, more insights and a lot more informed debate. I can see, that I’m not going to look in your direction for any of the above.
@Tickhound
We are socialist. Look around. We took that fork in the road.
But we don't have to stay on that road.
It's surprisingly easy and inexpensive to deploy the infrastructure for digital biometric money, but it is very time-consuming, which Venezuela would not appear to be able to afford.
Ghana has far less money (and oil) than Venezuela and a raging case of ebola across the border, but they have managed to deploy the infrastructure for nationwide digital biometric money.
However, in terms of wider adaption and penetration, I've seen people proudly hanging their biometric chip & pin digital money cards (way more sophisticated than the USSA banking system) on the walls of their little hovels as a status symbol, while they bury the paper banknotes they don't use everyday in the yard, so practical full scale implementation is still a long way off.
The more self sufficient you are, the less relevant the fuckheads trying to control everything will be to you.
As always, good comment El Vaquero.
If this is introduced worldwide it is time to take my Glock 27 as a payment method with me. People should move out of Venezuela, move to the mountains or overthrow the Government.
Fuckers are getting bolder by the day!
" VZ was a victim of -- among other things -- the IMF."
That was my first thought too. Venezuela is getting squeezed by the 'great Satan' for not dancing to his tune.
There are a lot of moving parts, but the IMF is a very big part of it. Blaming "socialism" without further analysis is just click bait, and frankly dishonest.
I knew some middle class people from Venez when Chavez first took over. He was not a positive for the country. He wiped out the middle class like Obama is doing along with the dual citizens oligarchs who own Obama.
So we should disregard the role of the IMF as explained by Perkins because you knew a couple of guys and blame the figurehead exclusively?
Are you talking about Perkins aka Confessions of an Economic Hit Man? The guy is a hero. Getting back to Venez - pre-Chavez it was better.
The problem is any country that has natural resources or anything the elites/oligraches can steal - they will and destroy a society to get it. Norway is one exceptions though the left is flooding the country with Muslims and Africans.
Ironically for this article, Norway has done well because they socialized the natural resources under the land and did not allow the oligarchs to make off with the loot.
Norway didn't really "socialize" natural resources and it's not their ownership of resources that has facilitated their socialism. Every statist State seeks a monopoly on natural resource ownership (which in Norway is facilitated by the hybrid civil/common law/customary legal framework), and a division of profits based on their successful monetization. There a ton of private (oligarch) energy companies operating and profiting in Norway. The reason Norway has managed to endure, is because they SAVE MORE and BORROW LESS (independence from the ECB also helps), and then with their "socialized" savings they have INVESTED in, and built their branch of the capitalist/corpratist NWO.
What middle class? There was no middle class to wipe out - only a tiny (very rich) elite and the rest.
Zerohedge is a fantastic site when it comes to analysis and news regarding the financial sector and its cronies. But when it comes to the discussion or news regarding ideologies and political systems both the contributors and the commentators (the majority of the Zerohedge-crowd) seems indoctrinated by the mainstream propaganda. There’s no – or very little – insight into the history of ideologies, the paradigms and the interests behind.
The most telling experience I’ve had with this is, when I in a former comment described myself as a leftwing anarchist. Almost all the replies I got was like: “Leftwing anarchist? That’s impossible! Libertarianism – that’s the way!”. Says a lot (about the ignorance that’s sadly dominant in these regards).
MOAR poli-sci degrees!
MOAR student debt!
That's up there with allowing Krugmans to spawn and propagate dismaller science ...
( +1, but don't tell anyone)
meme, your self declared expertise on political systems, you of course realize Mao's comments make politics only a tool for left wing hanger ons, guns veto it all, of course if your leftist are in power that's good. right?..your dead, but nobody here can smell the corruption
To be leftwing is not a religion - I don't have to follow or agree with Mao, Stalin or any other.
You have no right to 'make up' my opinions. I've never proclaimed myself an expert of anything (apart from my own life).
But I agree with Mao on this point. Violence/war/force 'veto it all' - that's why will see a lot of it soon. I just hope people will gather and fight for something good...
The point being that libertarianism IS IN ITS ORIGIN (and for most of the worlds population familiar with the term still is) an extreme LEFTWING ideology. Socialism (as understood by most on this site = a totalitarian state with total control of the economy) is by far the only leftwing solution offered.
Left wing and Rightwing are not good words.
There is one really good rule for people to live well together:
Respect each person individually.
Don't shove, push, rob or kill them. Listen to them.
Libertarians (except for the radical anarchists) do that better than most.
I agree. But I'm not sure what constitutes 'a radical anarchist'?
Venezuela was a victim of intentionally dumbing down the population. If you investigate US primary and secondary schools you'll find we're chasing the Venezuelan dream.
@LetThemEatRand
"VZ was a victim of -- among other things -- the IMF. The fascist police state mechanism of control."
And how is the government behaving in the same manner as the IMF supposed to change things?
Respect every person individually.
Nah, we will do iris scans.
And if the camps are full the scan's laser will just burn right trough your head.
Mommy, mommy! Look. Mr K's head is smoking!
Oh silly! You know Mr K is always stoned
No mommy! His head is on fire! I can see right through it!
Alfred! Get your fingers out of his brains. You don't know where they've been.
Please stop.
Maybe IF Venezuela stopped subsidizing certain products then people would not hoard them to sell outside of the country and shortages would end?
Grasshoper, politicians subsidize products because the puppet-master tells them what to do. Look at who profits from the subsidy, and the secrets of the universe will be revealed to you.
A while back, someone posted a VERY interesting comment about arbitrage in VZ. While s/he gave examples of medical insurance claim arbitrage (gaming the official exchange rate vs the black market exchange rate), just consider this:
http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuela-gas-prices-worlds-cheapest-about-get-mo...
Now, do you REALLY think that folks in VZ don't buy the cheapest gas in the world, ship it over the border where its worth an order of magnitude more (plus), and then pocket the spread, then you are a fool. In fact, the elites probably have this business locked down and defend it through their military and police ties. Sort of like the drug trade in the US, albeit the other way round.
The economy in VZ is propped up by a great deal of state interference and it will eventually return to some semblance of reality. This is just the elites trying to perpetuate the status quo; something that might be familiar to US citizens.
Regards,
Cooter
Its more like at the docks..where the goods come to the country..the police or army take their share and the rest gets filtered doen to the shop keeper....its very corrupt now...Socialism is all about who is in control..and its usually the one with the guns...
Approval ratings are highly overrated when you have all the guns.
Would be funnier if guns weren't so readily available in Venezuela. In Venezuela, even the prison inmates have machine guns.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/23/us-venezuela-prisons-idUSTRE78...
Venezula is about to enter outer orbit in 3...2...
How many loaves of bread an I get for some of Obama's fingers?
You mean how many will you owe?
-Chumblez.
13 to the loaf last... No offers....
"Stay hungry my friends."
-most whatever man on earth
If they keep tweaking this system, they"ll get right sooner or later. Needs just the right combination of price, supply and demand. Maduro"s wonks will fiqure it out. Commies are smart. Very smart. Meet one and ask them. And they are all over the college campi, so they must be on to something.
Kind of amazing how politicians will recommend dam near anything, except increase production.
Oh ya, beyond their skill set.
The banking industry is about to implode. If a derivatives falls in the woods, can you hear it?
One has to ask ISDA if it made noise, then one can answer the question.
Regards,
Cooter
What?
Dat shiot wudnt go to well wid da Ferguson homies. Lot to be said for monoculture.
Just wait until they ask for a stool sample to enter your DNA for cash back rewards. Buying a gallon of milk, eggs, and a pack of cigarettes will have a entirely new experience.
/sarc
Slavetronics™ field test.
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What a retard. The food shortages would magically disappear if he removed all price controls.
You are using words a socialist can not understand. What are marke prizes? They are the mean to subdue others. That's what they know. It's surely much better to be subdued by such fine governments as that of Venezuela. And believe it or not there are especiall quite many germans out there which have coined the phrace (socialism of the 21st century) You can't believe really how deep the waters of stupidity are.
Economic sense will never win you the Presidency.
"Maduro has announced a mandatory grocery fingerprinting system to combat food shortages"
Heard from the treason-swamp on the Potomac: "Damn! Why didn't we think of that. Get Holder on the phone..."
An American, not US subject.
That'll teach them to ask for their gold back from the US feds.
Now, is it too much to ask for green stamps with my purchase?
His ratings may plummet, but come election-time, a little anti-USA fervor and claims that the CIA is trying to assassinate him will boost him just enough for the electoral council to only have to fudge the numbers by 5%-7% and declare him the winner.
The real Venezuelan currency is now the Bolivar Fingerprint .
The Bolivar is effectively removed from the list of currencies .
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2007/06/wealth-riches-and-money.html
Hahaha...socialism in action! But the free market still goes on!
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21612186-border-colombia-closed-c...
Long time no see a country suffer so much pressure from the United States in Latin America.
Venezuela took much of the population of misery when it privatized the oil and is part of MERCOSUR.
If I'm not mistaken, Venezuela has two or three refineries in North American territory and extracts oil of excellent quality for diesel, grease etc. ..
After October 30, when the election results come out in Brazil, believe we will surprise.
Everything depends on this election but go forward, the thing may accelerate over the next four years if Rousseff win or accelerate here eight years regarding the fall of the USD.
Put the beards of sauce.
From the US?? I think you need to do a lot of reading of who really controls the world..including USA, EU and Russia. Venezuela is only a testing ground for the elites...my country is next (Argentina) and I am from LATAM! Before you read anything read this: "And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17. and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six".
None of this would be possible under a Gold Standard.
The Venezuelans wealth would have been protected.
Fiat money = Authoritarinism
Fingerprints for shopping, ID Cards to monitor every transaction. These are the standard types of response by socialists when faced with failure of their policies. And when socialism fails, they always call for moar socialism. Moar controls, moar surveillance, moar police, political police, moar government. All of which encourages moar crime, moar violence and moar drug offences et al.
Society soon becomes broken & impoverished and the economy collapses. Revolution follows.
Too bad that most people cannot see it coming until it's too late.
Venezuela is the NWO test case, just like China. Coming to the USSR soon bitchez!
USSA! USSA! USSA!
And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17. and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
It's called gubbamant herd thinning. No money for food, but lots of cash for tracking food purchases - fancy that.
70 years ago, they were called concentration camps/gulags. Now, technology replaces the fences and armed guards.
Beyond people tracking, the government wants to track 'what' you are buying by discouraging the use of cash and by trying to tax Zinternet purchases (where they will collect what you buy and how much you paid).
Those fingerprints will come in handy for the next election...you can just use them to prove they voted...for you of course..
Electing a former career bus driver, President? What could go wrong? Frankly, he has better qualifications than Obama.