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Pentagon Demands Russia Remove Convoy "Immediately" As NYT Reports Russians Firing Artillery In Ukraine
The Russian military has moved artillery units manned by Russian personnel inside Ukrainian territory in recent days and is using them to fire at Ukrainian forces, New York Times reported, citing NATO officials. The Russian move, NYTimes reports, represents a significant escalation of the Kremlin’s involvement in the fighting there and comes as a convoy of Russian trucks with humanitarian provisions has crossed into Ukrainian territory without Kiev’s permission. The US is now getting involved, as WSJ reports,
- Pentagon calls on Russia to 'Remove Vehicles Immediately' From Ukraine
- Kirby says "very concerned" by Russian convoy in Ukraine.
Ukrainian Security Service chief Valentyn Nalyvaichenko said the move amounted to a "direct invasion," and The Pentagon has warned "failure to [remove its vehicles] will result in further costs and isolation."
- NATO SAYS RUSSIAN ARTILLERY SUPPORT BEING USED AGAINST UKRAINE
NATO SAYS MULTIPLE REPORTS OF DIRECT RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT
Time for some YouTube clips?
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The Russian military has moved artillery units manned by Russian personnel inside Ukrainian territory in recent days and is using them to fire at Ukrainian forces, NATO officials said on Friday.
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Since mid-August NATO has received multiple reports of the direct involvement of Russian forces, “including Russian airborne, air defense and special operations forces in Eastern Ukraine,” said Oana Lungescu, a spokeswoman for NATO.
“Russian artillery support — both cross-border and from within Ukraine — is being employed against the Ukrainian armed forces,” she added.
And as WSJ reports, The US is not happy...
- *KIRBY SAYS RUSSIA FACES COSTS, ISOLATION IF CONVOY REMAINS
- *KIRBY SAYS AID CONVOY SHOULDN'T BE EXCUSE TO CROSS BORDER
- *KIRBY SAYS RUSSIA CONTINUES TO ADD TROOPS NEAR UKRAINE BORDER
- *KIRBY SAYS RUSSIAN FORCE NEAR UKRAINE INCREASINGLY READY, ARMED
- *KIRBY SAYS `A LOT OF EQUIPMENT' HAS BEEN MOVED INTO UKRAINE
- *GENERAL BREEDLOVE SAYS RUSSIAN CONVOY IN UKRAINE A CAUSE FOR CONCERN
The United States is very concerned about the movement of a Russian convoy into Ukraine in violation of its territorial integrity and is calling on Moscow to withdraw its equipment and personnel immediately, the Pentagon said on Friday.
"This is a violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity by Russia," Rear Admiral John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, told a briefing. "Russia must remove its vehicles and its personnel from the territory of Ukraine immediately. Failure to do so will result in additional costs and isolation."
No, not more "costs" - Germany, which is about to enter full blown recession, is crying uncle already. Just ask the NSA...
And the Russian denial...
- CHURKIN: NO RUSSIAN MILITARY FORCES IN UKRAINE
- CHURKIN: NO PROOF OF RUSSIAN ARTILLERY IN UKRAINE
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Since when can you believe anything from the New York Times?
''The Russian move, NYTimes reports, represents a significant escalation of the Kremlin’s involvement in the fighting there and comes as a convoy of Russian trucks with humanitarian provisions has crossed into Ukrainian territory''...
Somewhere, George Orwell is scratching his head and saying, what?!
No shit. These fucks are so deep up their ass, they can't even keep the bullshit lies and the double-talk straight anymore.
And we are involved because of which treaty?
The Monroe Doctrine, silly
If we don't stop 'em in The Ukraine, we'll be fighting them under every rock in our backyards and gardens.
Talkin' about invasions and thinkin' about gardeners, how's that invasion form the South going domestically?
Let's start a war to distract the folks and get our ratings up, Valerie.
Or I could just say a few words at the turn...
Oh..Natalia
The "Old Gray Lady" is nothing but a dried up old whore.
pods
It's really sad when I have a gubbment that is so disgusting, corrupt and morally bankrupt that I actually like it when another disgusting, corrupt and morally bankrupt gubbment sticks it to them.
Uh, oh... there it is again... "Russia faces costs..."
Did our intel sats go down?
Show some pictures!
I just spotted the convoy on I10 headed East from Santa Monica.
Who is this NATO? Did anyone ever vote for it? Is is respobsible to anyone other than the MIC?
What about reports of Polish soldiers engaged in combat in the recent cauldron battles new the Russian border? What about USSA and the 5 billion spent provoking the conflict in Ukraine? Why are these NATO fucks so eager to see a war? And why is NATO even involved? Urraine is not a NATO member. It is a bankrupt failed state run by oligarchs with western sympathies who are happy to send untrained conscripts into battle with no weapons, and no food.
The world would be a better place if NATO were disbanded. Let Europe pursue its own interests.
Great points! Canada sent 3 C17 cargo planes stuffed with helmets, night vision goggles, sleeping bags and bullet proof vests. Nobody in Canada agreed to it, just the far-right neo-con Emperor Harper and his cronies always get their way. Nobody in Canada said a thing, Canadians know their Emperor well, he just does whatever the neo-con Americans tell him to do. He is a good lap dog.
Fuck Victoria Nudelman. $5 billion USD spent on a regime change in Ukraine but there's no money for US citizens in Detroit.
I am really, really worried that Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is right. It's going to get much worse than Orwell imagined.
These bat shit crazy delinquents running the government are getting desperate . The old saying from the sixties: what if they gave a war and nobody came, seems to be valid again.
NATO is just USSA with a token lackey from a few other countries thrown in for PR value. USSA violates sovereign borders almost daily. Now that someone else does it, they are outraged. What a joke.
Of course, we all know NATO has been sending mercs and weapons to Ukraine for some time. The lies and hypocrisy would make any sane person's head explode.
White MRAP er Bronco?
Hey,
It's National Security A-hole......Why are you asking questions anyway? Don't you trust your Gubment? Where are your papers?
I know how you feel! I try hard to look at both sides in this Ukraine affair. But the US and Ukrainian side is so evil and disgusting that it makes Russia and Putin look almost like good guys.
I watched a number of translated videos of West Ukrainian people confronting military and govenment officials over the draft laws and the fate of their family members already drafted to the war. The average people know what the new Kiev government is, the people demand they stop lying with every breath. Kiev's coup government was put there with American money, media and CIA actions on the ground, aka the sniper affair.
The US demands made of Russia are desighed to make it look like the mass defeats of the Ukrainian army attacking Donetsk look like a case of Russia invading and beating the Ukrainian army. THUS, the Kiev coup leaders can dodge responsibility for the many thousands of deaths of soldiers and the series of terrible battlefield defeats. The Kiev Junta is now screaming "We are fighting Russian artillery, Russian Special Forces, Russian Tanks." This makes them free from the TRUE FACT, that rebels with Russian military equipement aid, are defeating the stupid and feeble Kiev Junta commanders on the battle field.
The US threats to Russia are coming at a moment when the great assualt on Donetsk of the last few weeks has been defeated in a terrible series of battles in which so many Ukrainian troops have died and been captured that Kiev is scared that the people will perform a second revolution and throw them out of Kiev! So, it is MOST IMPORTANT that the military defeats be blamed on a fake Russian Invasion, the USA help Kiev's liar propaganda, because the Kiev Junta is a US creation.
Blaming the Russians for the failure of the idots in Kiev is one angle.
The second angle is blaming the Russian invasion for the collapse in western equity markets when the Fed decides to turn off the money spigot. The markets crash and Obummer and the rest turn and blame Russian actions for thie own incompetence.
"...the great assualt on Donetsk of the last few weeks has been defeated in a terrible series of battles in which so many Ukrainian troops have died and been captured that Kiev is scared that the people will perform a second revolution and throw them out of Kiev!"
SOURCE?
I used Duckduckgo and keywords, "Donetsk Attack" and you will find more than enough information to keep you busy about previous attacks. Yes, the big push on Donetsk was a few weeks ago and was repelled. You will see that in early August, around the 5th, there was a major attempt by the Kiev forces to surround Donetsk and then another attack back in May, you can also look up the battle at Donetsk airport. In all cases the people of Donetsk, the ethnic Russian Ukrainians repelled the forces from Kiev. Search engines work great, use them.
83 out of 4'700: Fighters ask, why they were sent «into certain death» – ENG SUBSPlease see this video for further confirmation of Kiev's losses. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f6_1408648373
This is a very good video.
Man... those Western Ukraine wives and mothers are some PISSED!!!
These are Russian women, I know, married now for 15yrs.
Deleted double sorry
that video clip is superb document thanks for the link.
everyone here should watch this vid and then send it to 5 others...thanks for posting
Awesome - many thanks. Not sure why I got all the down votes. I like Jack's posts a lot but believe it's always best to see and confirm for myself, no matter who's posting.
JB, ZH lads, ever notice how the US (Obola, State Dept, Pentagon, etc) love to be the ones to DEFINE and FRAME the Argument for the world?
They are keeping themselves in a position of "Moral Authority" where they have none. It's a total PR/Mindfuck/Jedi_Mind_Trick job, and sheeple are (still) tuned in to it. That's a sign of world-class Madison Avenue success. Madmen success, you might say.
I believe absolutely nothing coming from the Pentagon, NATO, and the MSM. There have been far too many "reports" that were shouted from the rooftops for a day or two only to be memory-holed once they were discovered to have been flat-out lies.
Uncle Sam has cried wolf one too many times.
NYT making up shit, all the artillery that the resistance of donbass has, they got, from the Uki army that abandon equipment when they lose battles...
The NYT in the 1930s suppressed all mention of the Holdomor.
reading between the lines, this speaks volumes... they have lost control of the narrative and are improvising...
Nah, this was the plan all along. Wait until Russia "does something" (in this case cross the border with part of the aid convoy) then make one claim of aggression after another until a plausible false-flag is created by the press.
The improvisational part is merely having to try so hard at plausibility in face of all of the failed previous attempts.
Sociopaths generally have very little concern as to the plausibility or narrative consistency of the lies they tell. Fortunately for them (and unfortunately for everybody else) most people tend to assume that others are acting in good faith, and so don't tie everything together. This is why sociopaths are able to get away with what they do.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." —your namesake
Luckily for those in charge, there just aren't that many people paying attention or interested in finding the truth.
Uncle Scam
Indeed McMolotov, What have we heard lately of the Rebel and Russian shoot down of the MH-17? Do you think that false flag has run into evidence toruble? If America had the real evidence they claim to, right now they would be blasting it all over CNN, 24/7. Wolf Blitzer, the Israeli, would be screaming for war and arrest of Putin. YET, instead all is SILENT. The great corporate media lie machine is SILENT.
These flase claims of Russian invasion make the 100th time Kiev has claimed these same claims. Never one video, never on 3rd party not working for the CIA have produced evidence.
What Kiev's troops experience may indeed look like Russian Artillery fire, so they may be excused for their claims. The Russian-Ukrainian border has a 2 mile wide neutral zone, a no go zone to prevent any interactions between the two border guards. I will admit, and rebels admit that THEY are using the 2 mile buffer zone to outflank Ukrain's army and to base heavy guns. This is a vilolation in a sense. But the rebels are Ukrainian and thus are only bending the rules not breaking them.
As for NATO, they are fucking liars. They helped Kiev create the false flag MH-17 lie! NATO helped kill all thos einnocent people, including lots of kids, Gunned out of the air by 2 Ukrainian SU-25 fighter bombers with 30mm cannon fire aimed at the pilot side cockpit. Wreckage shows clearly a mass of 30mm cannon shell holes right below the pilots head, and obve and behind the pilot. Ukie crime! NATO lies!
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There is a reason the corporate media lie machine has gone silent regarding MH-17. The Russians know, and have incontravertible proof of, exactly what brought that plane down. The US/NATO/Yatzi gang knows this. And the Russians know that they know this.
The US/NATO/Yatzi gang is shitting bricks, because they know that they fucked up bigtime. The MH-17 incident is a predicament for which they have no solution. It cannot be bribed, bombed, or wished away. All they can do is ignore and delay.
Sooner or later, the US/NATO/Yatzi gang will have to crawl on their knees to Putin, begging for some kind of deal. It might involve pulling NATO back to where it was in 1992 (or even the dissolution of NATO), it might involve removing sanctions on Iran, it might involve a peaceful settlement with Syria, it might involve fixing Palestine. Hell, it might involve all of these things.
Of course, someone will have to take the fall for MH-17. My guess is that they'll throw Kolomoisky under the bus, since he was probably the one behind the wetwork.
Or they could start WWIII, win it, and then change the history to blame a dead Putin.
We just don't know and to claim otherwise is to give lie to the whole pile of donkey doooo.
All we know is that there are no Red Cross assignations on those vehicles for a reason...someone started a fight and the other side isn't backing down. Trying to find out "who did what to whom" is like being Mom yakking it up with the other Moms when the fight breaks out in the sandbox. "Good luck with dat...
I think you need to change your moniker. Many of us here at ZH actually served in the military and saw lots of verifiable bullshit cooked up by Langley, Mossad, State Dept, NATO, etc. None of it was hard to sniff out. It was fucking in your face 24/7.
Most of us vets still have good contacts, buy rounds of beers for returning soldiers and ask lots of questions to get at the truth. So don't proclaim that this is difficult to understand or uncover. Psyops are easy to see through if you know what to look for.
If you are the best shill that The NSA can throw at us then they need to outsource to India.
Not A Truthful Organization
I told you mooks the Russians were already there in Ukraine so no plans needed to invade!
But noooooo......
“The United States is very concerned about the movement of a Russian convoy into Ukraine in violation of its territorial integrity”
In other news..
Michael Moore is very concerned about Oprah’s sudden weight gain.
OH! THE HUGE MANATEE!
You just won the internets...
And Congress is drafting new legislation banning steel targets, sand bags, blocks of ice, frozen turkeys and anything else bullet proof
For the children!
are frozen turkeys bullet proof?
"You MUST remove this convoy, the President needs to play through!"
Sadly, I saw a MM post on the wife's facebook yesterday, and I can report he is now trying to build a think-tank in order to "fix" everything.
Cuz what else does one do when the past/present psyops quit working?
“Brace yourself! The American empire is over. The descent is going to be horrifying!” —
Chris Hedges
Chris Hedges is expert speaker and author. He's also right on the money. Empire of Illusion is a great read.
Breathe deep:
pods
"oxygen masks"
That was great!
I got it!
Why that I didnt't think of that before?
I've got Moskvitch tomatoes in my garden. Should I be utterly terrified and panicked beyond reason? They're coming in pretty heavy right now. I've been eating them and canning them. I thought that was the right thing to do. Should I instead be threatening them with sanctions, quoting unnamed sources at them, and maybe burning down my neighbor's house?
Owned a Moskvitch 412 in the early 1970's (in London). Unusual, but remarkably reliable, and extremely "abuse tolerant". Particularly interesting 3-part cylinder head arrangement!!
Bought it secondhand for an absolute bargain price, then after using it heavily for about one year, broke it up and sold it for parts / steel scrap. Made more on the sale than I paid for the complete car.
"I've got Moskvitch tomatoes in my garden. Should I be utterly terrified and panicked beyond reason? They're coming in pretty heavy right now. I've been eating them and canning them. I thought that was the right thing to do. Should I instead be threatening them with sanctions, quoting unnamed sources at them, and maybe burning down my neighbor's house?"
Nah! just withdraw the fertilizer, that will teach them...
Six suspected drug-runners for M-13 have escaped confinement in Texas and are believed to be heading for sanctuary cities in Nebraska and California.
Originally classified as orphans waiting to be adopted, closer examination of tattoos revealed these orphans to possibly be wanted members of the notorious M-13 gang involved in drug running to the US.
Authorties claim these six people were not in contact with an Ebola infected Nigerian National who were included in the same group of refugees.
Do not come in contact with suspects and notify local police
''And we are involved because of which treaty?''
The one between the government and the oil companies, of course.
You mean "The Queen," right?
"GENERAL BREEDLOVE"
LOL... Did that bozo take over for Betraeus?
I'm waiting for GENERAL LUVFROMSKY to take over drone command...
Commander in Chief of the Drone Forces will be sharing a number of disjointed thoughts with us now....
A bad fucking movie...
"Dr. Strangelove, please pick up the white courtesy phone."
As long as he says "folks"...it will earn me a swig in the office drinking game...I work at a bar, so its cool..
drone armies always turn on you
General Betrayus is a real piece of shit for the oligarchs. The US Military and Pentagon are 100% behind the destruction of America. They been killing off American kids for the banksters since the Civil War.
How else does one become a general? Hell, most full-bird colonels are fully vetted, just waiting for the opportunity to move up.
Actually they were killing off American kids for the banksters (and railroad barrons) from the very start of the Civil War.
The NYT better spend its fucking editorial board ink, destroying the mythology they created over the last 8 years about the Golfer-in-Chief!!!
I'm loving what the next two years are going to be like, as the liberal realization has to smash these delusional fucks in their faces, about just how bad the "messiah of politics" really was!!
Obama is like a actor at the end of a long successful (for him) role, that the producers just keep renewing for purposes of greed!! He just doesn't give a fuck anymore, and everyone is surprised?? He's made all the money, got all the fame, golfed all the courses, hosted all the parties, traveled to all the places, and now this job is just fucking repetitive and stressful, and the magic is gone!! But this is the modern American culture, this IS the NEW American dream, take everything you can, get anyway you can, and fuck the world will doing it if need be!!
Of course he is "checked out" shit he was barely ever "checked in"!!! But this is what we get when we put these idealistic, academic, never run a lemonade stand but I'm the smartest person in the room, motherfucka's in charge of our livelihoods, it isn't gonna turn out well!!!
Whatever happens, I have more trust in Putin than Obama/Nato. Most Hungarians (86%) think the same.
I agree as I am currently on holiday in Székesfehérvár..
The Hungarians also have the advantage of not being in the Euro so may find it easier to control their own destiny. Most of the Magyars I have spoken to are wary of the former USSR but are starting to realise that the current USA is a very similar beast.
We spent today with some Germans who also think the same way.
The Germans think that they would be better off with Russian trade agreements rather than the EU /USA trade agreement currently being discussed.
They are intentionally mixing the convoy and supposed artillery equipment moved in to the Ukraine.
Just ask a sheeple and they will tell you they read that artillery equipment was with the convoy.........and that's why it got attacked.
Speaking of convoys, where's that destroyed Russian armored column we heard so much about a few days ago?
New York Times attempts to whitewash its role in publishing faked Ukraine photosYesterday, amid rising anger among New York Times readers over the newspaper’s publication of faked US State Department photos, the Times issued a whitewash of its role by its public editor, Margaret Sullivan, titled “Aftermath of Ukraine Photo Story Shows Need for More Caution.”
The Times’ original piece, “Photos Link Masked Men in East Ukraine to Russia,” used doctored photos to falsely identify armed pro-Russian protesters in eastern Ukraine as Russian soldiers. In one instance, the Timesposted photos of two different bearded men, one a protester in Ukraine and the other a Russian fighter in Chechnya, down-sampled to such a low resolution that they appeared to be the same person. In another case, theTimes published a photo taken in Ukraine but claimed it was taken in Russia to supposedly prove that the fighters in it were Russian.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/26/nytu-a26.html
the Times rapidly moved on to its next assignment from the State Department—a front-page article published yesterday alleging that Russian President Vladimir Putin has a secret fortune of between $40 billion and $70 billion. The Times acknowledged in its own article that the allegations consist of “rumours and speculation” with “little if any hard evidence.” That did not prevent it from seeking to legitimize the gossip by elevating it to the status of a prominent “news” item.
http://www.herald.co.zw/the-ukraine-crisis-and-political-lies-of-the-med...
And remember Judith Miller and her lies about Iraq?
I can't wait until this rumor is invalidated. Our State Department seems to be run by children who just can't seem to get their way.
What do you expect when their nominal boss is the physical and intellectual equivalent of Mr. Ed?
You are selling horses far too short for the comparison.
You know what we should do? Rather than attacking Russia militarily, let’s freeze Putin’s “fortune of between $40 billion and $70 billion” (NY Times revelation). Then see if we can find it.
Forbes Columnist Paul Roderick Gregory made the same claim without proof in March.
Wrote Gregory in Follow His Money: “Among these [Russian] kleptocrats, Vladimir Putin could well be the richest, but his wealth is carefully hidden. It is taboo and dangerous even to talk about. Forbes has not been able to estimate his fortune.”
At the same time, Gregory directed President Obama to “act and act now!... There is no need to establish Russian violations of international treaties.”
Gerald Celente refers to the Tomes as "the toilet paper of record."
And what will Obama do if Russia doesn't comply? Give another speech? Send Eric Holder? Put Michelle on a diet?
He'll send them nude photos of Michelle. That'll bring em to their knees.
Yeah, imagine seeing Micheles dick, and having the NYT tell us it is merely an enlarged clitoris....LOL
Where are those sexual-mutilating ISIS lunatics when you really need them?
General Breedlove says ..... Breedlove?
I'm telling you, you can't make up anything better than this shit.
Guess what time it is, kids!
It's Stompy Feet Time!
further costs and isolation of whom, by whom and for whom?
the people of course, silly!
Obama sucks ass, figuratively, and literally.
Been dutifully listening to Steven Cohen on the John Bachelor show. They are obviously pro Russian, but they make a good case in the latest interview that the very existence of this convoy has gone a long way to making western Europe see the scope of the humanitarian crisis in the East and America and Kiev's utter indifference to same.
Combined with recent repeated Kiev chicken little screams of "invasion" that even the US says it cannot confirm and I think Putin probably feels like he can do this with Germany's implied consent. People are begininng to see Kiev's utter corruption/incompetance so unless something big happens, Putin appears to be winning again, simply by "not losing".
Looks like the rebels defending the cities will be well fed.
Surgical nuke strike time?
Maybe in selected parts of West Africa for Humanitarian reasons...
....and that not be far from the troof, maybe
Like in "Aliens". It's the only way to be sure.
What? No red line? Screw it then...on to France! Besides, has any of these guys ever tried to back up and turn around a big rig loaded with tanks on a donkey trail?
Unpossible!
o/t ... it is entertaining to watch the State Dept pressers when the reporters badger, err, ask repeatedly "is the [fill in the action] a red line?" to which they are curtly told "I am not going to use that word..."
"The Pentagon"
LMFAO, like they have the nuts to do anything but bluster about and look incompetent like they are??
A bunch of whacko's from around the world get together in Northern Iraq 4-5 years ago, like some sick Jihadist Burning Man, and turn themselves into the "the most dangerous force and threat to the free world since Hitler" and you dumb motherfucka's in the Pentagon not only didn't see it coming, but indirectly and directly armed and outfitted these whacko's, and now we are all suppose to respect and believe what you dipshits have to say about anything, including the Ukraine????
Follow the lead on your commander and get your asses to the golf course, before you fuck up things even worse then they already are!! It's time for the adults on the planet to run shit now!!
No doubt! The Pentagon should change its name to the 'White Castle' or or at the very least "Cracker Barrel" With five sides, think of the amount of traffic they could run through the drive through!
A bunch of whacko's from around the world get together in Northern Iraq 4-5 years ago, like some sick Jihadist Burning Man, and turn themselves into the "the most dangerous force and threat to the free world since Hitler" and you dumb motherfucka's in the Pentagon not only didn't see it coming, but indirectly and directly armed and outfitted these whacko's, and now we are all suppose to respect and believe what you dipshits have to say about anything, including the Ukraine????
x100
Noo, if they like, they can keep the name Pentagram.
NYT has a history with Ukraine see Walter Duranty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty
I guess its been about 103 years now?
1. The Mew York times prints "everything fit to print" per its owners.
2. The "Pentagon" is now speaking for the US Gov? Really!?
Tell those fat, overpaid, over-rated cunts to first get the hell out of 120 countries, and stop bombing and murdering millions of live that they are responsible for. At this point, w/o exaggeration, it is fair to say (on an objective basis), that the Pentagon has taken more lives and is responsible for more deaths than were killed in German Concentration Camps -- as horrible as that was. FUCK the Pentagon!
NYT - News for birds that shit on print
Sorry, NYT. I always root against the neo-nazis.
you mean jew york times,right?
Haha
"Immediately"Putin no give shit!
My favorite use of the word "Immediately":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Ng0WLbA8s
In Russia shit gives you!
It makes you look irrelevant when you make shrill threats you can't back up with anything credible.
Putin needs to set up a no fly zone over novorussiya - fast.
Novorussiya Armed Forces already have that covered unofficially.
Putin to Pentagram ---> Fuck, I must break you.
Putin or ISIL. ISIL or Putin. Obama chooses putting.
Fuck you America. Not even us citizens support you anymore.
US Citizens mostly do, Americans do not. Americans have been here longer. US Citizens didn't exist untill the 14th admendment.
And even now, they only exist within the abstractions known as belief systems. So, you're only a citizen if you believe you are one.
The military, state dept, Pentagon and alphabet agencies are all liars and all violate The Constitution. If you let your kid join the military it is child abuse.
NBC to the rescue. Funny shit.
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/30-seconds-to-know/where-does-isis-get-it...
They forgot to mention the money and equipment the CIA gave them lol
Hey don't forget about the Saudis.
'Columbia University Assistant Professor and former RAND Corporation analyst, Austin Long, explains how ISIS has used a variety of tactics to fund its violent operation.'
Tactics like happily accepting training, intelligence and equipment from NATO, CIA, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
The level of fraud, deception and Orwellian insanity is truely becoming hard to handle on a day to day basis.
Yet people go on and on about how government schools are failing, when they are succeeding on all fronts that matter to TPTB.
Agreed. Success is a matter of opinion. If you think teaching 2+2=5 is complete insanity and setting up children to be vapid, low IQ consumers you are correct. However, if you think it's being done due to 'incompetance' or 'stupidity' and it's not intentional you probably listen to Glenn Beck.
The same people who say the govt schools are failing are the same people who think Obama actually makes decisions and is incompetant, detached and unqualified to be President. His tenure as the figurehead for the wider agenda of the TPTB has been an astonishing success by almost every metric.
Success is in the eye of the beholder.
Sacramento CA Ebola test negative.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sacramento-Ebola-tests-come-back-n...?
oh I feel so much better now, safer too
It would be nice if this ebola patient in Sacremento would go over to the state capitol and throw up, sneeze and shit everywhere. It might make California - lee of a hell hole.
.... not a good idea to write that thought, Knuks.
Ebola tests negative.
Seeing as the current problem in the Congo is "Not Ebola", maybe he's got "Not Ebola" instead??
Sell Mortimer, Sell
(And buy gold)
Russia to USA ==> the United States does not have a monopoly on humanism.
Sounds bullish. Stawks thinks so too.
I'll , i'll hold my breathe until you give in.
I promise. I will.
Are they they getting the spokesmen from a kindergarten.
This is embarassing. Have these psychopaths got no self respect ?
Why does shit always happen on a friday?
I was just thinkin' the same thing....
If it's Friday it's got to be fucked....
It's like POMO Tuesday used to be. Buy on the WWIII dip on Friday and sell on the POMO rip on Tuesday. We'll call this Fear mongering Fridays.
Just setting the plebes up for the weekend bullshit shows.
I'll George Jones tell you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2ByCGW2Xgo
So Chuck Schumer can do a press release Sunday afternoon for Monday's papers.
"I know today is Monday because Chuckie's in the paper"
Packaging!
Contents may settle during weekend shipping. YMMV
it has begun. its all down hill from here boys!
edit
scratch that
this will result in "further isolation and costs"
meaning,
they arnt going to do shit except write lame press releases
zzZZZzzzZZZzz...
Maybe its an "out" for the US, NATO and the Ukraine government. They can retreat fast, secure Kiev and the centre of the country and tell their respective populations through the press that Russia invaded for a day or two and then never mention it again (it goes down the memory hole).
edit: My theory doesn't account for the fact that they have been acting irrationally up until now and they'll all be left holding a stinking pile of shit while Novorossiya begins a rennaisance as a quasi independent state.
The significance of the Russian decision to move the humanitarian convoy into Novorussia
The Vineyard of the Saker
22 August
It appears that the Russians got tired of waiting. I suggest that you all carefully parse the Statement of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs I posted earlier today [linked from original above]. This is an interesting document because besides an explanation of the Russian decision to move it, it is also, potentially, a legal defense or an unprecedented Russian decision: to overtly violate the Ukrainian sovereignty. Let me explain…
…there is no doubt at all that the Russians did deliberately and officially chose to ignore Kiev and move in. Now, in fact, in reality, this is clearly the logically, politically and morally right thing to do. But in legal terms, this clearly a violation of Ukrainian sovereignty…
...from a legal point of view this is a threat to use force ("complete responsibility for the possible consequences") inside the putatively sovereign territory of the Ukraine.
The US and their main agent in Kiev, Nalivaichenko, immediately and correctly understood the threat: not only did this convoy bring much needed humanitarian aid to Lugansk, it also provided a fantastic political and legal "cover" for future Russian actions inside Novorussia. And by "actions" I don't necessarily mean military actions, although that is not [< should be?: now] clearly and officially possible. I also mean legal actions such as recognizing Novorussia...
Another crafty move by Vlad.
Obama is using his GPS to hit is 8 iron (I here like 125 for him) or a 7 iron while Vlad. makes steals another march.
Are we going to get more youtube videos "proving" this? Sorry, but our government has lied and lied to us so many times that I'm going to want some real hard evidence before I believe this shit. Fuck you, Pentagon. Even if you're telling the truth this time, you're tied into the government that has lied to us too many times in the past for it to matter. Go cry wolf somewhere else.
Please stop saying "our" government.
Have you done anything to rein it in or topple it? No? Then it's every bit as much your government as it is mine. We own this.
The Russian military has moved artillery units manned by Russian personnel inside Ukrainian territory in recent days and is using them to fire at Ukrainian forces, NATO officials said on Friday.
Prove it! You bunch of cock sucking panzies.
Why is Putin trying to provoke a war?
He is responding to the US trying to provoke a war.
Remind me again who overthrew the Ukraine government.