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China’s Reaction: America Is A “Disgusting Thief Spying Over His Neighbor’s Fence”
Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man
China’s Reaction: America Is A "Disgusting Thief Spying Over His Neighbor’s Fence"
Only hours ago the US government announced that a Chinese fighter jet had intercepted an American military patrol plane over international waters east of China’s Hainan Island.
A Pentagon spokesman called China’s actions “unsafe and unprofessional”, and blasted such unprovoked aggression.
There was no mention as to why a US surveillance plane was just off the Chinese coast to begin with. They’re just playing the victim… and rather loudly at that.
Needless to say, the Chinese government has a slightly different story. I asked one of our Sovereign Man team members in mainland China to translate the following article from Sina News.
The first part of the article praises the pilot’s skill and boldness, as well as the efficiency and superiority of Chinese aviation technology.
The Jian-11B fighter, in fact, is 100% Chinese. There is no foreign engine or major component.
As for the rest of the article– I present it below with only one comment– it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that the US is no longer the world’s dominant superpower. It’s certainly obvious to the Chinese.
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From Sina News
Stop thief: China rejects the U.S. government calling our aircraft “dangerously close”
Sure enough, it is the American government who stamps its foot first after a similar event.
First the famous anti-China military scholar Bill Gertz played his “danger close” speech for the Washington Free Beacon.
And then the Pentagon also followed and said that it was a “dangerous intercept”. The White House called it “deeply worrying provocation”.
Adm. John Kirby, the Defense Department spokesman, said Washington protested to the Chinese military through diplomatic channels, and called the maneuvers “unsafe and unprofessional.”
Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said it was “obviously a deeply concerning provocation and we have communicated directly to the Chinese government our objection to this type of action.”
Such remarks are laughable. As we all know, the United States is the world’s largest hegemonic force and biggest rogue country.
Their various reconnaissance aircraft have been wandering around foreign airspace for decades and watching the military secrets of other countries like a disgusting thief spying over his neighbor’s fence.
However, when the neighbor comes back with a big stick, the thief will turn tail and run away, blaming the neighbor.
When you show people weakness, they will bully you. When you show people strength, they will respect you.
We [the newspaper] believe the Chinese Air Force and Naval aviation should maintain a high level of vigilence and morale in southeast coastal region to prevent the further US action.
America has lost face and does not want to show the world they are sick. They have been lording over other countries for so long, and they will never let it go after they eat this loss.
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Another Chinese pilot is gonna push the envelope and end up dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
China needs to shut up. All said and done I'd pick US hegemony over Chinese crony socialism everyday.
I'm glad you like the hegemony becoz you are now just a serf for the Zionist who control the US government as well as the Fed. For over 100yrs you have been paying taxes to a private banking cabal and non of the tax dollars is used for the betterment of the citizens. 90+% of the funds hit the military industrial complex. In China, the tax revenues go back into society and help with infrastructure projects, health care, etc. How's Obozocare coming along? To put it mildly, American's have been brain washed to think that the hegemony is in American's interest, but the truth is, the citizens are nothing but bag holders as you serve the Zionist. Why do you think the US still provides $Billions in aid to Israel when clearly they own the Fed. Its a farking joke the way they are screwing the US day and night.
China's had its ups and downs, but one thing is certain, its a sovereign state that serves it citizen's. America is but a hostage nation of the Zionist agenda. If that was not true, why does the Fed print money and not the treasury considering the Fed is a private institution. Surely, only Federal agency is allowed to create legal tender? PBOC is Chinese Government Agency.
To add insult to injury, they removed the constitution and installed the Patriot Act! Now that's fascism/Nazism for you.
Instead of that whole rant you could've just said:
I'm a dumb cunt with no life that sits at home and reads infowars all day, I get all my knowledge from youtube so I have no clue what the hell I'm talking about..
The effect would've been the same.
Your projecting buddy...I'm not even an American. You have no idea what Nazism or communism is, do you? Have you ever experienced it? If you feel like a serf now, why not move to glorious China...live in a shoebox amidst toxic gasses and bus yourself to the foxconn plant everyday. See how much part officials like your incoherent babbling. Nothing that a few years in reeducation camps won't fix.
Be careful what you wish for, dumb little American. Just because you liked Ron Paul doesn't mean you have a clue.
Everything I've said is well documented and if you doubt the Fed is private, you can always check it up yourself. Sad thing is you dun even know you are getting farked day and night. How funny is that. For better or worse, I have no need to run the rat race, so I don't serve these mofos. You call it babbling, but the fact is unless we recognize the facts, we cannot evict the enemy. Clearly your not one of the enlighten ones on ZH. Sad for you I guess running around like a headless prat. But then you are entitled to being a serf. Hey we live in a (once) free country. Pity they imposed the Patriot Act on us.
Many American's are waking up to the facts I state and like all things, it only takes 3% of the enlighten population to create a revolution. The rest of the lemmings will follow. ZH I believe has many of the enlighten populace. Clearly you must be one of the exception, but like all lemmings you will come around some day.
If you seem so enlightened, pls elaborate where there is a US law that states you need to pay income tax. Even ex-IRS officers cannot locate that law! With regards to Ron Paul, pls don't insult him by mentioning him as you are clearly still embryonic.
Actually I spend months in China on business annually and the Foxconn factory you mentioned is run by the Taiwanese not the Chinese. They just supply the cheap labor. You see you are so ignorant, you cannot even present simple facts that are readily available.
" You have no idea what Nazism or communism is."
If you are familiar with those two "isms", you're an 85 year old wigtard, obviously in advanced dementia.
But at least the wiggy farm where you live, let's you go on line to share your thought with us..
That's nice.
Double
Still down voted....winning!
Coming from a fan of the country that created the Cultural Revolution, with thousands of years' history of enforcing poverty and enshrining corruption, I'm not sure you understand your own government or ours. In China, whatever it is the tax revenuies are used for, the industrial engine makes damn sure there's a need for state-sponsored health care. How many billions of tons of carbon has China added to the atmosphere? Their own people are choking on the smog, dying from the water and eating lead in their food supply. Spare me the Han-worship please.
Considering that the CCP has perfected internet censorship, murdered its own citizens for daring to criticise (Tianmen and others), encouraged the deaths of hundreds of millions of baby girls with the one-child policy (to the point that men can no longer find wives), allowed industrial corruption on a scale that would embarrass Wall Street, ruined countless millions of hectares of land all over the globe with their rapacious exploitation of natural resources,...and the list goes on. You should take your pious outlook and go look in the mirror. The true reflection of today's China looks absolutely nothing like what you describe.
While I agree with your sentiment, I have this gnawing that China will not listen to you.
Part of why i hate them...a billion worker bots towing the party line...that's scary shit.
Just because we're fucking shit up badly, doesn't mean our enemies are our friends. It means we need to stop fucking shit up. Russia is not our friend and China is not our friend. And don't blame Zionism for the fact that Americans are asleep at the wheel. A country gets the leaders it deserves.
It's TOEING the line, as in toe-to-toe with the enemy.
As for those "enemies", ask yourself how that happened. Enemies often arise as a consequence of unjustified interference. Something that America has a very long track record of doing Worldwide.
Not in the worker camps, bud. There, it's 'towing.' And if the sheep could actually think, they wouldn't elect pigheads. But who educates them? We deserve our current humiliation, and karma's a bitch. But not one person who considers him or herself an enemy of the USA really understands who the enemy is. It isn't the sheep. It isn't even most of the critical thinkers. The guilty party is everywhere, in every country, clinging to power by whatever device can be devised. Its what humans do.
If you think, though, that America is no longer the sleeping giant, stick in a pin. And see what happens to ya.
"Part of why i hate them...a billion worker bots toeing the party line...that's scary shit."
There, you're right. Americans got a taste of what fighting Asian Communists is like in Vietnam. The difference being that, with China, we're talking about 2 billions of the same kind of tough nuts, something truly worth pondering. So, if I were America, I would hail the fact this guys are not violent, only want to trade, and I'd f... leave well alone. For my health's sake.
You have zero idea why we lost that war. When you're an ignorant fuck who doesn't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.
Is this some kind of sick contest of who is the biggest thief/spy/liar?
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Interesting clothing options
Ras Putin has gotta be one of the sickest shirts I've ever seen.
"Visit Russia, before Putin visits YOU!"
Well then, I'd better find out what his preferred tipple is, and whether he has any dietary likes or dislikes. The Mrs speaks good Russian, so there shouldn't be any "unfortunate misunderstandings" that could escalate to "significant unhappiness"!!
I like this one http://www.ebay.de/itm/PUTIN-HANDS-OFF-UKRAINE-SHIRT-S-XXXL-RUSSIA-NO-WA...
Despite our own stupidity, NOTHING made in China is worth a shit. I'm not even biased.
Exactly...a communist society can't be creative or productive. It becomes stagnant. Just wait until every Chinese citizen has a fridge a house and a car..
It doesn't need to be creative when it has thousands of spies working for our corporations and government.
As for being productive, if you consider shuffling paperwork around or collecting welfare to be productive, then Americans are productive.
i totally agree and admire you for writting this using an US made laptop and watching the news on your US made tv. congratultion.
If the USA continues with it's provocations then China will have no option but to stop producing the weapons and spare parts for the US military.
That would be a blessing. In all of China, there's one good foundry (Dandong). The rest of 'em are as good as Tata Steel. No thinkas, I'll pay more for the part made right and not have to rreplace it five times before I find one that works for a little while.
Now that is funny coming from the Chi-Coms. But they do raise a valid point. With the NSA being directed by a fascist Executive branch, company and industry secrets are being sold to the highest bidder. Picking winners and losers is the Chicago Way.
We send a spy plane over there, they intercept it, then we complain. Wasn't it just a month ago that we were bitching about the Russians sending planes near the west coast?
We didn't bitch. We lodged a strongly worded diplomatic protest. Ask Jen Psaki. She can tell ya' all about it.
If the US had not empowered China with so many of our factories moving to China, this military encounter would never have happened. So much for 'FREE TRADE'.
Hopefully the halting all Chinese imports into the US, and every other foreign country too, will be the good that comes out of this. That is of course, unless Obama imports a bunch illegal immigrants into the US, to steal all the new factory jobs from US workers.
Amerika Stronk.
When I hear the Chinese talking like that I do listen. The real war is economic. China has just enough military to defend its territory, no offense really. But economically, watch out.
http://www.financeandeconomics.org/sco-and-mackinders-prophecy/
China will continue to thrive as ong as 'americans continue to buy their shit. ''''the answers are really quite simple. Place about a 150'5 import tarrif on all goods manufactured in 'china imported INTO THE U.S. See how long Apple stay there. Same with damn near everything else. They already have a bubble that makes ours look minescule - ghost cities etc. Default on the debt we owe them - Solly Charlie - kick all their sies out and pull all education visas Voter verification,cut off all "Entitlements to non U.S. citizens and watch the jobs come back in force. Everyone who is pissing and moaning about the U.S, might take a trip to these cuntries - not just the wine and dine corporate dog and pony shows, Go to Russia or China and see how the average citizen lives - then cme back and if you like it so much - pack up and move there. I have spent considerable time in both countries - THEY SUCK. WHAT TECHNOLOGY THEY HAVE IS RETTY MUCH STOLEN FROM THE U.S. Easy to bash the U.S right now because we have a fucked up Presidnet and Congress - but if the dumb asses in this country would actually vote in real competant peole - tis country could be a juggernaught in 5 years if the rght policies were put in place and we would get off this PC bullshit that has weakened up for the last 20 years
Way to handle this is to target some RE taxes on those multimillion dollar houses the Billionaire Chinese gubmint officals own here where their children reside. You can send the officials there a signal over the bow by first repossessing their kids' BMWs. I bet the gubmint officals there back down and maybe apologize. You can label the tax bill, "American-Asian Cooperative Tax Reform and Economic Stimulus Act."
The NAR doesn't like your idea. Who will buy all those overpriced McMansions?
The assertion that China is a military superpower that we now run from because they push back is beyond laughable. This assertion comes from the constant harping on this site that the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, untrue, that it will be replaced by the yuan or bitcoin, laughable, and that the USA is in decline. Althought it is very fashionable to say it is all over for the USA as the dominate country it is not based in the facts. Thats another story.
This story is a joke. The Chinese can not even build an aircraft carrier. They have bought 4 to 5 SMALL carrirers from other countries that were mothballed. One ONE is in service form a couple of months ago. There is still a problem as the Chinese don't even have a pilot that can actually land on a carrier. This is actually a highly developed skill that is necessary unlike posting on this site. Someday, maybe 20 to 30 years from now the Chinese will catch up to the US in military capabilities but that assumes the US sits on it's hands, not likely, and the Chinese don't fall apart internally, probably.
While I do agree in general with what you have stated, China is focusing on other areas of military superiority using technology given/sold to it by Israel, stuff stolen by their agents in the US and stuff that is a hybrid with their own developments. Modern China is a New Bolshevik creation that was designed to wreck the global economy.
I don't know why you guys come off as so confident about the state of your knowledge here.
gallaghd5099 you make good points. But Russia makes a long range jet fighter SU-47 >2050 miles!
So if your defending your country you really don't need those big carriers with a huge target profile.
Unless you want to bring war around the planet like us.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/aircraft-total.asp
The US firepower right now is unbelievable. Our abilty to project firepower in the world is historic in nature. That being said we are in a parabolic technological move and I take nothing for granted. As Argentuina showed the British Exocets can hurt and those Exocets were play toys compared to what is now available. Again That being said the US leads the world in development of new weapon systems. My point is this constant wringing of the hands on how bad the US is, it is BS.
Re: "The Chinese can not even build an aircraft carrier."
Why WOULD they? Why would we presume in our hubris that the Chinese military should somehow feel obliged to meet American standards? Wouldn't that constitute stupid military strategy? Study is one thing; modelling is another. Doesn't it seem more sensible to anticipate that Chinese will do what's right for China?
I'm no strategist, but just as an example, can you imagine a campaign in narrow coastal straits where a traditional 20th-century supercarrier would be more effective than something smaller and faster and more economical? Big carriers are easy torpedo targets, relics from the last century. There's a reason why nations are jockeying for fifth-generation platforms. Everything else is passé.
Why would they waste billions on outdated military technology when they have no plans on conquering the world? Their aim is to control Asia. You don't need $10 billion aircraft carriers to do that when it's in your own backyard. If they plan to conquer South America or Europe, then those carriers might come in handy.
With all of our projection of military power, we can't even handle a bunch of stone age tribes in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Chinese would have wiped them out in a few months.
In 2007, a Chinese sub surfaced in the middle of a US carrier escort group.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chine...
The Russian anti-ship missiles are the best in the world and the Chinese and Iranian stuff is not bad either.
http://www.militaryaerospace.com/blogs/aerospace-defense-blog/2013/07/ho...
It wouldn't be too hard to take one of those carriers down. Fire a few conventional BM's at it, if one hits, the thing will split in half.
Perhaps they think that carriers are the new battleships, first to be sunk when the missles start flying. Maybe they think the US admirals are too busy refighting WW2.
Threatening to build 6 carriers to get the Americans to debt themselves to death would be smart. USA has 11, build a new one every 5 years, but 6 are in dock at any one time, same as the SSBN's where only 5 are on patrol any given time. 6 carriers in the China Sea would give China a big edge.
USA did it to the FSU. Spent them into a hole.
Then fight on another playing field, different tactics that make the carriers liabilities.
That would be Chinese way to do it...
10-15 years before China can contest the USA, but it has begun and this is as good as it gets it will only get worse with time. This is going to happen.
Keep in mind that the Chinese, once they get the hang of something, could one day begin to build 20 of these things and that would get everyone's attention. They have a slow learning curve and then one day they begin mass producing widgets. Motor scooters, fast trains, aircraft carriers, etc.
To those who say they - the many carriers and frigates - won't last, they don't need to. The USA built a carrier a month 1942-1945, and they did not need to last more than 3 years to be useful.
Not yet, within 10 or 15 years, but soon.
100 percent Chinese made aircraft, boozo, and if you give us anymore of your spying shit, we will cut off the supply of your own jet fighters. We, and the rest of the world, are tired of the constant bullying from you psychopatic nut jobs- Go fuck yourself!
Psycopaths are habitual liars that isolate themselves from reality and the real world and the psycopaths in Washington's Empire have already overthrown our government and are in full control.
The two black guys that own the race card have a perfect impedance to their prosecution for Treason. Look at the treasonous corrupt fools in Congress and Washington's representatives; Treason is the new normal.
Make a list and scream: No more! Hang the criminals for Treason!
And you think its different somewhere else? Who's going to do the hanging? You? Isis? The Molokai Bandit? You fuckers keep shooting the wrong people. No wonder you can't get a homeland.
China, Russia, Iran, Germany, India and many, many US citizens are highly critical of US policies. Or totally against them. Not really strange is it. After all, who likes a WW Animal Farm?
Actually, the big thief is Israel and its built-in collective of dual-citizen Sayanim spies in the US and around the world. Nice that we have been robbed by the "tribe" and it's political puppets since 1913, been lied to and had the borders opened by them for population displacement since 1965, and we have given them over 100 Billion USD in direct aid, and probably much more in indirect aid, and still they stab us in the back. They even have the chutzpah to push for freeing Jonathan Pollard(Jewish) for his extremely destructive espionage. No wonder they have continually worked to disarm US citizens for decades. TJB.
(1993)Israel Selling China Military Technology, C.I.A. Chief Asserts"Israel has sold advanced military technology to China for more than a decade and is moving to expand its cooperation with Beijing, says R. James Woolsey, the Director of Central Intelligence."
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/12/world/israel-selling-china-military-te...
Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-tech...
U.S. Furious With Israel After Sale of Advanced Military Technology to China
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/22/u-s-furious-with-israel-after-sale-...
$100 Billion — Total American “Aid” to Israel Since 1962
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.611001
http://davidduke.com/100000000000-much-american-tax-money-given-israel-s...
“Israeli spies have done more harm and have damaged the United States more than the intelligence agents of all other countries on earth combined... They are the gravest threat to our national security.”—
Admiral Bobby InmanFormer Deputy Director of the CIA
Blah de fucking blah. You really think the Israelis sell shit that isn't OK'd by Washington? Its a testament to the general IQ of this site's posters that you have not a single downvote for your racist, uninformed, stupid Jew-baiting bullshit. Fuck you. Next time we'll put your kids in an extermination camp, and see how well you do. As for counter-facts: the largest seller of weapons, ammo, and technology in the fucking universe is the US. They divided and conquered your racist ass a long time ago. As for the down-arrow? Yeah, that was me, asshole.
Simon: "America has lost face and does not want to show the world they are sick. They have been lording over other countries for so long, and they will never let it go after they eat this loss."
Let's rewrite this as...
[X] has lost face and does not want to show the world they are sick. They have been lording over other countries for so long, and they will never let it go after they eat this loss.
Where [X] can be any entity or former empire. Some obvious ones come to mind, but it wouldn't be PC.
Who, at the moment, has long been lording over other countries save America?
We had help. Lots of help.
We have only been fucking up countries for about 65 years.
Last i checked, the semi-civilized world has been at war for a couple thousand.
That Chinese fighter looks remarkabley like an amerikan one. Good job MIC.
Where's the big red star? That has to be an American jet. F-14 Tomcat, or an F-18.
F-18 escorts would be good.
I think its a close takeoff of a Russian SU 27
The DC US nation may not get the message. The American people may not get the message. However, the nations and people of Asia get and understand the message very clearly.
An American, not US subject.
As if the Chinese would have acted any differently had they been in the US's shoes all these years...
So it's not 'American exceptionalism" after all.
Any misbegotten nation with America's wealth and power would have turned out to be the same stinking pile of shit.
Too bad you can't prove it.
As if the US wouldn't have done the exact same thing if the Chinese constantly sent spy planes flying off our coast.
It needs a spoiler with LEDs between the 2 vertical fins, and the exhaust ports are too small.
Edit: Looks like a kick-ass jet and at 1/10 the price. Or 1/30 the price of an F-35.
Sovereign Man team member in mainland China
Code name James Fo Lee
Just words. The US has been giving China military technology (including stealth) since Clinton.
... the question is "which US" and "which China"?
This sort of thing happened so often during the Cold War that the incidents rarely got public notice. Brinksmanship between the Air Forces and Navies of the United States and Soviet Union became a fine and practiced art. I wonder at all the surprise and hurt feelings that are expressed by the United States.
The proper response for the US Navy should come in 2 parts:
Remind the Chinese of the rights and privileges afforded to international air and sea passage beyond the territorial limits of sovereign nations. Beyond 100 kilometers from a nation's coast, ships and planes from other countries can linger or pass through as much what they want. These are international waters/airspace; and the US Navy is going to continue to travel in them at will. We do not and should not recognize the extended zones of defense beyond these limits, which the Chinese have proclimed and are trying to enforce.
The US Navy should provide fighter escorts to their reconnaissance planes as they fly their routes in international waters; and should have a US Navy carrier group patrolling in the sea beneath these routes. This activity should go on for as long as the Chinese forces wish to accompany/escort our planes and ships.
If, as may be the case, that the US Navy has committed so many resources to the Ukraine/Syria/Iraq area of operations, that it can't defend its rights of international passage, then it should stay away from such demonstrations of force until it has realigned its forces appropriately.
"GO HOME AMERICA"
The Only Sick People
Are the Zero Libertarians who Want America To Lose.
And its simply Treason.
The White Republican Conservatives
Now Want American To Lose.
Cuz A Black Liberal is in The White House
Now America Must Lose.
Sick, Disgusting American Traitors.
Now Russian And Chinese Patriots.
Treason is in the asshole of the beholder, dude.
And you are just a foul hemorrhoid
End of discussion. Period.
Is that because you're too stupid to put another sentence together?
This incident is certainly not comparable to the USS Liberty ... show your colors, what do you think ?
No. We want the American people to win. Main Street. It is just that the Fed and now the government only serve Wall Street, so there is no reason to support either anymore. As far as i can see, the Western banking and financial system is wholly corrupt beyond repair. I've been hoping for quite some time they'd do the right thing, but instead they universally try to bully the system against fundamentals. Ultimately, they've been playing checkers against chess players (who have $4T USD ForEx, $1.1T UST and maybe 14K tons of gold, which they continue to accumulate as our bankers try to bully it down).
We are at the endgame. The financial sector did more damage to this country than any terrorist ever could and (it will eventually be clear) committed greater treason than anyone in history.
techstrategy; great comment ..."... The financial sector did more damage to this country than any terrorist ever could and committed greater treason than anyone in history."....spot on.
I fear that the WS and financial section crimes will be hidden from the serfs, so that WS and friends can shuffle the deck and play the game again.
hear hear. Finally someone who knows what they are talking about.
It's not helpful to complain over your neighbours garden if your own one is a ravage.
Most of the readers want the own garden to be fixed and are complaining about this finger-poking at the neighbour first. I don't expect you to understand that.
It is America that is turning every point of contact between itself and the outside world in to a win/lose situation. An inteligent foreign policy would be about creating win/win solutions
I think that they need distractions, which is why they are after conflict.
dupe
Washington DC is not America, it does not represent the best interests of the American people...any of them. it is in fact a hive of delusional, self important ingorant control freak psychopaths who are dangerously out of touch with any kind of reality. they do not care about this republic, individual freedoms, civil liberties or the good faith and credit of the United States.
do not make the mistake of equating us wanting Washinton to fail with wanting America to lose...these are two entirly seperate things.
it is the most essential function of any patrariot to question everything that our massive central government says and does. to simply give ones loyalties to such an entity without question, even when there actions are obviously to the detriment of all of us, is not being loyal to your country. espcially given how many times this Washington has been caught lying, decieving, spying, abducting, murdering and surpressing it's own citizens for the past 60 years or more.
and if in the course of calling Washington out on it's wrongs we happen to agree, strongly, with the posistions taken by another country in opposistion to DC that does not make anybody a tratior. that's just freedom of speech and association which is essential to any society that claims to be free.
accusing people of being unfaithful,unloyal or tratiors because they do not want a dangerously destructive and overreaching central goverment to succeed in thier goals has been a tool used to repress dissent throughout the ages. are you sure this is your own opinion, or could it be maybe you just don't yet realize this is exactly the way they have been conditioning you to think from the day you were born?
I gave you an up arrow because of the content of your post. However, please get you uppercase letter capability repaired.
Yeah gee that sounds really great. But you know the one thing that never seems to appear in the sage pages? And I do confess that i am, for once, in the same boat with the lot of you (too bad for you): THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR CHANGE. NOT ONE OF US HAS A BETTER IDEA, OR THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO FIX THE SITUATION. SO until you have another plan, tearing the old one down is a step into chaos. It just isn't good enough that the country belongs to the revolution. What we need here is an evolution.
So what's the plan?
I still think Bush Jr. was worse.
Middle class Jesus Freaks who have done nothing but pray and read the bible their entire lives are hopin' and a prayin' for the end of the world...they are Enemy #1 and number in the millions.
Amazing how many down arrows you received. It's almost like you tried to get them. Like chumming for sharks.
Man, it is easy to bait these douche-bags.
Or... you are just insane.
It's hard to tell the difference on this site.
I'll just say I hate Zionism so I can feel like I fit in here.
Ziotnists raped all my relatives, stole all my money, and farted on my face while I was unconscious.
Those fucking zionist bastards.
Tony Wilson will set you straight. He knows all about the zionists. He's like Yoda.
Only stupid and repetitive.
You forgot 'propagandist,' ignorant,' racist,' and 'asshole.
You are on sick fuck.
When people realize that even Russia and China have better governments and better leaders than there is in US and they see the theft corruption lies and attacks on them and impoverishment caused by the fucking retards and the crony corrupt shit festooning wall street and k street, they rightly take the obvious stance.
Their enemy is my friend. And if that means support for the better man, in Russia and China so be it
Bring down this fucking evil and if it burns every fucking libtard and fucking lefty half wit and all the fucking gangs of campaign contributors to the fucking Kenyan monkey then burn those fuckers too.
The US made the biggest mistake in history thing that they could stick some black token in the Whitehouse without consequences.
They doubled up on that mistake when they pout the same fucking piece of shite back again.
Every cunt who voted for that piece of shit and every cunt who waved a flag for a fucking monkey is the enemy within, and not China or Putin.
Its time to fix that mistake, and if Putin and China can help by exposing the hypocrisy lies and the pure evil of cunts like Huland, Holder, ... zzzzzzzz ad infinitum
Burn the fucking lot of thm
Russia and China have better government leaders? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geezus yer fucking funny. You can still catch a plane to the Kremlin, dude. better be quick about it, now!
The ZOG betrayed us, long ago.
Long on Mandarin dictionaries and language courses
End the FED.
NWO what the hell were they thinking.
"America Is A “Disgusting Thief Spying Over His Neighbor’s Fence”
It can't be long before the Chinese tell us what they really think of the US Government.
"America has lost face and does not want to show the world they are sick. They have been lording over other countries for so long, and they will never let it go after they eat this loss."
Mr. Putin might say the same after the Kiev fascist coup has unleashed a deadly civil war and thousands are dead. All because the bitch Nuland must Fuck the EU and Fuck Russia. The Kiev junts keeps sends boys to die because America has promised to make good losses, pay for the war and pay for reconstruction. Maybe even the funerals will be paid for. America started this war, but cries loudest when Self Defense Fightes seek Russian military supplies. The more Washington cries and scream, the more guilty they look and are.
How we gonna invade Iran, Syria, Ukraine and Crimea is we get bogged down in China? Fucking fools, poke China in the eye, and cry a river when they fight back?
Ball of Confusion(Temptations)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_aahkIdEI
America... idles.
The US needs to stop minding China's borders and start minding its own borders.
Their various reconnaissance aircraft have been wandering around foreign airspace for decades and watching the military secrets of other countries like a disgusting thief spying over his neighbor’s fence. America has lost face and does not want to show the world they are sick. They have been lording over other countries for so long, and they will never let it go after they eat this loss.
For these and other reasons we will continue to send our offspring to America's universities, buy luxury property in her affluent communities, send our pregnant wives on packaged trips to deliver our offspring on American soil and attain American citizenship and covet all and various of the other modern niceties and amenities she has to offer.
The Great Han Bullshitter has spoken.
"Wang, that was a great article. It takes the spotlight off our cyberspy campaign and copyright theft."
"Why, thank you, comrade Wong."
This really must be a fucked-up article, Lake. You just wrote something I agree with and find hilarious. Now you'll have to go commit seppuku-you just made a liberal laugh.
Those air to air missiles under the wings are probably Chinese copies of Russian copies of Anmerican designs.
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who created the first missiles ?
who created the first jets ?
it seems we all copied from germans and chineese...
and yes, werner von braun was american...
What really worries me : ( military ) conflict between China and "The West". More than a coming US-Europe divide. More even than the future of the Middle East. The Chinese should consider to accept/attract migrants from all over the world and start intermingling culturally and sexually to avoid an otherwise inescapable we-they-logic developing.
That's a good idea that will never happen. I'm white so I wouldn't want to live on a 100% Chinese planet. Oh wait...
It seems, on first thought, a mathematical impossibility for any white to ever live on a planet that is 100% Chinese.
But Chinese can be a concept like American, with European-Chinese ( or white-Chinese ? ) and African-Chinese etc.
"The Chinese should consider to accept/attract migrants from all over the world and start intermingling culturally and sexually to avoid an otherwise inescapable we-they-logic developing."
I've been putting in an inordinate amount of effort, shagging chinese girls. My motives aren't totally altruistic but it will still help with the cause.
From Chinese Americans to American Chinese to Gentile Jews and pygmy Vikings. Progress? To what end this global genetic melting pot I wonder?
To what end is life ?
I had a crush on Li Gong.
Tot Ruski Sukhoi look better painted in traditional Sukhoi Su-34 "sky blue" camouflage.
Yes the Su-27 series developed since the 1990s including this striped down F-11B. Actually the article is mostly a discussion of technical developments written by a so-called 'Yang ji' military blogger for the Sina's new 'indepth' military column and is more interesting than the rather defensive commentary at the end about the US. The general gist or warning to his readers by the author is that the US can not back away now that they have been provoked. Most of the comments on weibo centre on the tech part.
Thanks for taking some time to share your knowledge. Much appreciated.
The jist of the article, is that the 21st century superpower( IS )employed a clown, to run it's " day-to-day" operations/
Those pesky Aliens?
Actually the title of Simon's article is a sentence towards the end taken a bit out of context. It refers to the NSA (not by name but in general) spying disclosures and the need for the military to remain vigilent and not be 'bullied'. The original title is very straight forward and the article, unexceptionally, evinces a patriotic slant on the success of the new aircraft and skilled pilot. The author praises the Hainan South China Naval Aviation fleet and says that 'in the near future' there will be three groups located there including 'over 70 J--11B / BS heavy fighter guards, supplemented by a group of JH -7A "Flying Leopard" fighter-bombers as the assault force.'
As I implied, the article is generally defensive in tone. I have read more provocative and hyperbolic lapsap by the military clowns the gov. lets out of the kennel when they have a 'domestic' problem.
The "body" of the article caught my attention. (good catch) By the way...
'over 70 J--11B / BS heavy fighter guards, supplemented by a group of JH -7A "Flying Leopard" fighter-bombers as the assault force.' Corrrugated cardboard much?
Yes, the 'body'--now composite materials to improve thrust to weight ratios. According to the author, the -11B used the Russian AL-32F engine but in 2010 with refinements to the 'Taihang' engines this plane used the thrird generation modification and 'proves' the Taihang is now stable. Also the plane has other modifications or bells and whistles apparently.Well, that is one test. I hope they are not 'thin-skinned' about it all.
I tend to think the whole "blue water navy" thing is still a bit of a sticking point for Chinese superpower status.
But as should to obvious to even the dimmest bulbs at this point, military power really doesn't address the majority of the international and subnational crises facing governments today.
"Blue water navy" talk is a little too 19th century to be taken seriously.
Lob a nuke-tipped missile 200nmi in front of a carrier battle group, and indicate that the next one will be aimed at the flight deck; all of asudden the "blue water navy" is exposed for what it is - a hugely expensive set of floating targets that exist to aggrandise retarded geriatric fuckwits (like McCain).
Google "Van Riper" or "Millennium Challenge 2002": a carrier battle group facing a sensible enemy is basically dead in the water. And unlike MC2002, "Blue" doesn't get to re-float its boats.
Nukes really aren't a usable strategy, especially for the Chinese. We have a ton of nuke subs, they don't.
Empires come and Empires go. its the ones that refuse to go (all of them?) that causes all the shit that we know.
I'd err (the side of caution) on your side.
Chinese seem big on metaphors.
I hope BHO is watching the newspapers on his vacation, since it appears that he only finds things out from the news:
http://news.msn.com/us/obama-orders-review-of-police-use-of-military-har...
Bear, did you notice how aud/usd was bid 24-36 hours before Mr. Yellen? Just over {100} pips on conjecture and speculation?
I love my AAA+ antipodian/
Conjecture and Speculation ... Is that like Hope and Change ... or Hype and Cringe. Also I think Yellen is of the female Hobbit variety, but I'd have to check to make sure
The " Carry trade" is alive and well my friend. The market was speculating that "Mr. Garden Gnome" was going to be dovish.
Get ready to short usd/jpy/ The final assault is on. ;-)
Remember before Qe Bear? Markets priced RISK/
I'd have to check to make sure.
What? that she has female sex organs or hairy feet?
Into the bowels of trading together mate! Take no prisoners!
The only trouble with trading, my friend, is that it's done on exchanges.
AND THERE BE DRAGONS
China was England and the Alliance of Eight Nation's sex slave from 1839 to 1939.
Now England, the US and some of nations are handcuffed to the headboard.
China is opening up the jar of K-Y and the sorebutts are crying "Mommy Mommy."
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What you describe is schoolyard revenge, the mindset of a child.
The People's Republic of Children.
Definition of Chutzpah? China calling anyone a "Thief"! Apart from engaging in military and commercial intellectual property serial theft, China is the largest sovereign debt defaulter in History:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/210715422/Summary-Brief-of-the-Known-Actions-o...
Things will get real serious when the Chinese pilot unzips his fiight suit and shoots a moon while doing a barrel roll right in front of the US plane...
Tempest in a teapot as usual.
yes the kettle is calling the skillet black. the usa has overthrown more nations than i can count, yet it takes great umbrage over a nation attempting to protect its sovereignty. on the other hand the chinese are as aggressive as americans with their imperialist designs on taiwan and anything else not under control of the chinese communists.
the usa, along with israel, is the number 1 terrorist state in the world ruled by ziocons and other rothschild israeli minions.
Taiwan was recently a part of China - I can't recall Iraq Afghanistan Georgia Ukraine Somalia Yemen Libya et al. ever having been a part of the US.
China should defend our southern border also since they don't take shit.
There are millions of chinese people who have come to the USA over decades. remember the words of the song "first we take manhattan"? well wiki is going to be out of date but from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_American the number of chinese doubled between 1980 and 1990 (ten years from c., 800,000 to c. 1.6m) and more than doubled again from 1990 to 2010 (twenty years from c. 1.6m to 3.3m).
I would not be at all surprised that in the last 3 years, the number of chinese buying places to play in the US has continued to grow at a fast pace, putting the population at c. 4m, making an increase of 2.4m in the last 24 years.
There have been changes of president, senate and congress in the US and the paramount leader, national people's congress (3,000 elected members, largely of the communist party) and the state coucil over that time, but to be picking a fight with a country with which the US has exchanged vast amounts of labor and capital seems a somewhat dubious path to being good "howdy neighbor" policy (best toolman tim accent).
As with the sentiments in 1984 (originally titled 1948, but too close to the time of its writing) there is a dark side to human nature and a light side. The dark side would say that of the 2.4m who have entered the US and the (guesstimate) 500,000 US citizens that have entered China over the last 24 years, probably around 1% (guesstimate) are spying; i.e. observing, passing sensitive information inlduing trade secrets and technologies.
Without each countries military and espionage networks, people probably would get along and have a good time, by visiting each others countries and making friends. You don't make friends by either sabre rattling or meddling in each others affairs.
Both the US and China have nuclear weapons and a space industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_US_and_Chinese_Military_Armed...
As far as I know, taking out the top 50 US or Chinese cities effectively returns that country to the stone age. The Chinese do have an aircraft carrier in service today, well kind of an aircraft carrier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_Liaoning
The Chinese weapon is not going to be military hardware. It is going to be population software, that is, Chinese people will migrate, The US has been a willing recipient of the money of the more wealthy Chinese (now numbering around 1/5 of the population or c. 300 milllion, which coincidentally equals the population of the US).
San Francisco had c. 20% Chinese ethnicity back in 2010. I wouldn't be surprised if this was now between 25% to 30%. Nice for real estate for people who want to move out, but a pig for those who want to buy a first home.
(Thanks to Wiki, I will donate for as long as your facts aren't propaganda).
We should never have taught them how to make planes!
They'd still be riding bicycles and eating puppies if it weren't for all the information they've stolen from the West. lol
They still eat puppies.
...and some still ride bicycles but not as many as 40 years ago...
The Chinese pilot wanted to defect.
The Orion probably scanned the airframe.
Now we know the resonant frequency for HAARP mass air defense.
Hey China, don't take it personal...I got a couple spying over my fence and I'm in the USA. They're not too dangerous, just a little pervy. If you have daughters just keep em inside....and close the blinds while you and the missus have a go.
Dear Chinese People at Sina News:
If you think you have a Snowball's Chance In Hell of taking on the United States Air Force with your relatively puny homemade fighter jets you are so very sadly mistaken.
The United States Air Force will kick your collective asses into next week.
Don't even think of getting into a military engagement with the United States or we'll show you just how pissed off we can get.
Then we find out who really are the "sick" ones.
Trust me. You really don't want to see that.
You have been warned.
You might like to try Fox - it'll be right up your alley.
always interesting to see the rats that scurry out of their holes when you move their cheese.
Why would China even bother with a military conflict all she has to do is dump the bonds - game over.