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Why Don't Muslims Speak Out Against ISIS?!
ABC News’ Laura Ingraham, Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and complicit in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims should be met “with a bullet to the head”.
Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?
Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.
Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association explains:
“Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam.
Father Mallon is right …
Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reported last month:
Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.
The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims.
In a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.
In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”
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Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview.
The Independent noted last month:
Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at continued violence in its name.
Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group does not represent the majority of Muslims.
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Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has no place in religion, violence has no religion.
100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video denouncing the Islamic State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.”
Breitbart noted earlier this month:
Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the radical jihadists.
“The public have to be critical. This is not about [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf.
The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the world and concentrates on traditional Islam.
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Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam.
“That’s my point, this [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer losses.”
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These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul. The group claimed the rejection served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a negative image of Islam and Muslims.”
Al Arabiya News reports that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice, and he:
Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.
The Daily Star writes that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group violates Islamic law:
[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) - the largest Muslim group in the U.S. - called ISIS “un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” noted that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley “gruesome and barbaric”. See this, this and this.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim organization on the continent - released a statement denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said:
ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people.
The head Shia religious leader in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders in Iraq have all condemned – and called for war against – ISIS.
Al Jazeera reports:
Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the “number one enemy of Islam”.
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“Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims” ….
The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.”
ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims
The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any mosque. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. Hardly the acts of devout Muslims.
Huffington Post reports:
Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.
Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them.
In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5′s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [Here's the Guardian report.]
For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found that foreign occupation - and not religion - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter agreed]; the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men (and, yes, they usually are men).
Instead they point to other drivers of radicalisation ….
When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports.
And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead. And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler than a devout Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background).
I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian”. Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims”.
Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply anti-American.
And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would never have gained power if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders.
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Geez dude you are a tenacious dhimmi toad. I don't think scratching will help you at this point. Islamic snackbarian murderers and criminals always work towards dominance. Always.
Booked that trip to Mecca yet? Don't forget your GOPRO Hero 3 beheading camera and mount.
Grimaldus
Some one has observed that two civilizations cannot occupy the same geography. I ascribe to that view. History repeats.
I think we could share the planet peacefully if we respect one another's societies and territories but are brutally honest about the limits of each. The biggest problem with Israel is that it was once Islamic and as far as Muslims are concerned they need to reclaim any territories that were ever Islamic.
The world belongs to God and he gives it whomever he wishes to.
"It is written."
"Nothing is written until I write it."
Movie quote quiz for today.
Muslim control of Israel...as there are over 1 million free Israeli Arab/Muslims. Palestine (Israel) those damned Romans with their damned name change, was once Christian and Jewish, but Islam demanded otherwise. Islam is due to reconquer the Iberian Peninsula and southwest Europe. Too bad about Byzantine, I like that better than Turkey.
That's Byzantine, I prefer Turks (sans Erdogan).
Why does the USA have to kill them? Just get out of the way and they'll do a great job of killing each other.
A person who professes to be a Muslim will NEVER turn another Muslim in.
Non-Muslims are infidels and are not even human in a Muslim's eyes. The deaths of a billion infidels does not even equate to the death of ONE single murderous Muslim.
I recall the words of a Yazidi who said his own Sunni neighbours turned on and participated in the murders of the Yazidis who had been living in the same community for years.
Look at the rare instances where some Muslims had renounced Islam and how the Muslim community in these "moderate" Muslim countries murdered them for apostasy.
Consider how non-Muslims are discriminated against when they live in majority Muslim countries. Consider the minority communities in Egypt and Pakistan and the various Middle Eastern countries. The current sad state of affairs of the Yazidis is a good example.
Where the followers of Islam is concerned, I find them to be psycotically intolerant of anyone who does not share their faith.
BTW I am an atheist.
And the only good Indian is a dead Indian! %)
Atheist?
The Methodists are coming to kill you.
You can take any religion out of context.
Have you ever tried to speak to a Muslim? If yes, then why did he not kill you?
What you are claiming is completely false.
Muslim believe in God, one God, with no son, daughter, etc.
The same God mentioned in the First Commandment, where it is stated "Thou shall have no Gods beside me". This is what Muslims believe in.
All people are free to believe what they want. In the end God will judge if we chose to follow the truth or falsehood.
NV, you really shouldn't have to provide full disclosure, but I understand, I do the same from time to time.
Good job George Washington, you get my "Dhimmwit of the Year" award!
The Qur'an plainly teaches that it is not only proper to kill in the name of Allah in certain circumstances, but that it is actually a requirement. Muslims who don't believe in killing over religion may be that way out of ignorance or because they are more loyal to the moral law written in their hearts than they are to the details of Muhammad’s religion. Those who put Islam first or know Islam best know otherwise. Islamic terrorists staged nearly ten thousand deadly attacks in just the six years following September 11th, 2001. If one goes back to 1971, when Muslim armies in Bangladesh began the mass slaughter of Hindus, through the years of Jihad in the Sudan, Kashmir and Algeria, and the present-day Sunni-Shia violence in Iraq, the number of innocents killed in the name of Islam probably exceeds five million over this same period.
There really is no such thing as moderate islam and there will never be peace with islam. And dhimmwit fools like you GW will be rewarded for your efforts by beheading just like the dhimmi reporter was.
Grimaldus
new Grimaldus,
Is your selective memory, because of you unawareness to facts?
Or, some psychological disorder?
Welcome, Grimaldus:
That is your reply?
I rest my case.
Grimaldus
Am I so braindead, I don't care if a commenter got his account 5 minutes ago !!!
WHY IS THIS SO DAMN IMPORTANT ?
I agree with Grimaldus.
I also belive that ZH's primary purpose it to amass a profile of all account holders as they vote. Every time you vote UP/DOWN for a comment, you've filled in another part of your resume for the inevitable state cleansing. Who's side are you on, from the state's view, is defined and refined with great clarity everytime you UP/DOWN vote.
Why pay me to fill out longs form about myself when I do it for free ?
WE do it thinking it has some affect.
THEY use it knowing it has great affect.
Its true here, and every site on which you place your vote.
Those little counters eventually come back to condemn you.
Tuning out slowly.
Perhaps because it heralds the arrival of another agendized troll?
I don't understand this tactics GW. I'm sure I don't know enough about Islam to have an opinion on the subject, and I'm definitely not sure I can agree with Grimaldus and TruthTalker but, ...... is it because someone is new on this website (apparently, maybe it's not really the case), that his/her opinion is less valuable ?
Aren't you applying some kind of "shoot the messenger" tactics here ?
Correct,
It's 3rd grade tactics.
Grow the fuck up GW. You have way too thin skin.
And no, I've been around here a lot longer than my name suggests. Just one too many nights posting drunk pissing off pussies like Flakmesiter and VD.
I guess you forget Francis Sawyer is back under a new name.
You can take any religion out of context.
Have you ever tried to speak to a Muslim? If yes, then why did he not kill you?
What you are claiming is completely false.
Muslim believe in God, one God, with no son, daughter, etc.
The same God mentioned in the First Commandment, where it is stated "Thou shall have no Gods beside me". This is what Muslims believe in.
All people are free to believe what they want. In the end God will judge if we chose to follow the truth or falsehood.
You can take any religion out of context.
Have you ever tried to speak to a Muslim? If yes, then why did he not kill you?
What you are claiming is completely false.
Muslim believe in God, one God, with no son, daughter, etc.
The same God mentioned in the First Commandment, where it is stated "Thou shall have no Gods beside me". This is what Muslims believe in.
All people are free to believe what they want. In the end God will judge if we chose to follow the truth or falsehood.
@ Grimaldus
Very well said.
The ignorant can afford to be ignorant until their good Muslim "friend" puts the blade to their throat.
Well, likely to all of our throats first, while those ignorant continue making excuses until their time arrives.
More like Dhimmi of the Year Award ;-)
I don't think you should mention Hannity and news in the same post. Douche bag yes, but news no...
But not all cheerleaders are bad.
I like the ones with the tiny skirts and tight sweaters. They can be bad all they want.
Uh-oh...I think I'm turning Japanese.
Admittedly, I too watch Diane Sawyer of World News Tonight, and her bottomless barrel of puppy and human interest stories has broaden my world beyond words.
Hannity is right up there with Chris Matthews in the no-merit ego category...lol.
GW; good to read your article, but.......
trouble is that certain western mosques ARE recruiting grounds for young [normally broke, stupid, easily lead] radicals that do go to the ME & take up violence. The moderates are displaced by the hardliners who bully their way in. plenty of cases in the uk.... see any uk newspaper archives. even happened in some areas of uk schools [birmingham], until recently exposed. (often mentioning this is seen as racist although it's fact & proven observation, and not opinion.) If muslims want to police themselves for extremism, that's great. But often no muslim will challenge radical imams through group fear/ personal cowardice/ lack of status/ etc ....
So thumbs up to those muslim orgs that denounce muslim violence, just as christians would denounce the kkk.
however I dont think ISIS is going to cease to be because a foreign muslim group said so.
& as for those that say it's all a zio-conspiracy, WTF ! ... think ISIS is a jewish fan club ? get real ......
muslims killing muslims /christians/jews/yadizis, therefore its an israeli plot !!! wtf.... same logic would say palestinians are killed by muslims then wouldnt it ? or does it only work 1 way round. ...?
anyway, its a fucked up world and religion often makes it worse not better... us athiests do not kill others, nor pressure them into believing our ideas. just saying....
If people are being killed because their beliefs are different to their murderer's , then yes - I would call it a religiously motivated murder. No amount of comments saying the murderers are 'confused' or 'havent understood islam' excuses the very real acts ISIS practices.
same Boko Haram, Al Q, Janjaweed, etc.
Of course the majority of any faith is peaceful. But it is how it deals with its own radicals that are not, which ultimately counts in changing that behaviour [again, think kkk in usa]. You think any of the protesting imams in the article have a rdv with ISIS to discuss that ?.........
btw; how much has this bullshit cost the west in the last 10-15yrs ???
think it helped much ?
...............................rant over, sorry !....................................
trouble is that certain western mosques ARE (3 letter agency run) recruiting grounds for cannon fodder for their shadow forces used to fight their dirty wars in regions where you can't really use traditional means for political or other purposes. Kind of how NATO trained and recruited Pravi Sektor in the Ukraine to fight in Kosovo and Chechnya.
You ever notice all the ISIS guys are Westernized Muslims....
You think they self recruited and trained themselves and moved freely in and out of the West without all this terrorist apparatus to keep use safe and secure including the overseas intelligence gathering not knowing? If they didn't know then why the fuck we do we need them in the first place since they are utterly ineffective then. If they aren't that implies consent for their actions either implicitly or explicitly by the powers that be even if the rank and file didn't agree. Also where are the British security services in all this since they can't seem to do their job weeding out the muslims like hatchet man there in the Foley video except when people want to view the damn video since it is a news source the second the beheading was made part of the news cycle. That is like a fuck you to freedom of information telling people the only source of information you are allowed to view on the story is the official one backed by the state or else you are a terrorist.
Don't pat yourself on the back just yet their buddy, the godless are the absolute worst killers of all and are usualy worshipers of the state. Just a different form of religion.
Death toll from the godless here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM
Quite the stack of corpses eh?
Grimaldus
@ Grimaldus, .... my post was not self-congratulatory, so not sure of your reply to it.
However, the athiest is not in a position to say 'god told me to do it', or '..it was written in the scriptures that....', so any intolerence/murder/persecution of others for their faith is entirely of their own actions which cannot be excused by the above statements. Obviously worshipers of the state are even more deluded than those who follow organised religions. Murder is never right, and against the backdrop of excuses that religions provide, athiests have none of those 'excuses' .... It is rare that atrocities occur at the hands of athiests, & those listed in your link were directly a result of oppressive state apperatus rather than religious hatred. It seems to be the issue of control & power-balance-maintenance though fear.
Dictators & oppressive regimes often use these tactics to reign over the populace. History for millenia have described plenty of examples.
radiobomb you must be a passive atheist. God bless you.
Militant atheists are the ones to watch out for. They are responsible for the oppressive state apparatus that killed mega-millions and it is not a rare thing.
Grimaldus
Islam is not the problem. Religion is the problem. Any creed that tells you it is ok to kill, main, enslave, or mistreat anyone just because they are different, is itself immoral. Not a surprise to see the Catholics making excuses for the Muslims. If people up and started ignoring the immoral teachings of their holy books they would be happier have more money and more free time.
Islam is immoral. But so are the others.
He's a Witch...Burn him.
KaBoom! Pow!
Reviewing several press releases spanning 2 months from the CAIR, the preeminent Islamic American PR organization, disclosed not a single statement about the ISIS genocide occurring against the Christians (true text book definition of genocide) or the other minorities being shot, hacked, burned, buried alive, beheaded, and converted on pain of death. You'd think that if any Arab/Muslim org. , especially one that has been to the white house dozens of times annually for years now would utter a word or two, but no.
http://www.cair.com
However, those sneaky Jews at the ADL have a whole top of the page story about the same minorities.
http://www.adl.org
Bottom Line: I cannot believe my lying eyes
Hmm, what?
I clicked on the link out of curiosity, and the top news story is this:
CAIR Condemns Barbaric Killing of U.S. Journalist by Terror Group ISISIt contains links to this :
CAIR Condemns ISIS Violence and Rejects Calls to Join Extremists Fighting Abroadand that :
CAIR Reiterates Condemnation of ISIS Violence, Religious ExtremismOne of these statements says : "As we have stated previously, American Muslims view the actions of ISIS as both un-Islamic and morally repugnant. No interpretation of Islam condones the torture and murder of civilians, the destruction of houses of worship or the targeting of religious minorities. We reiterate our condemnation of the violent actions and religious extremism of ISIS and reject the false claim that it in any way represents mainstream Islamic thought or practice. ISIS's actions are neither Islamic nor humane, they are simply insane."
What more do you want exactly?
Way to prove GW's point...
You believe CAIR?
Grimaldus
Mark my words, CAIR in the US just like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt will one day be proven to be a criminal organization. This organization cannot be trusted at it's core and worse is intending to bring at the very least sharia law to this country replacing our constitutional law. Why anyone would listen to anything these people have to say is beyond crazy.
CAIR concerns itself with Arab issues.
Those headless people aren't Arab.
Simple really.
If you were part of a group that TPTB decided not to like, how much exposure do you think anything you had to say, would get?
Always consider the source of the information you are attempting (hopefully) to make sense of.
I cannot take anything for granted anymore, insofar as who to believe or not. I, like all most all posters here no longer believe much of anything about our 'ruling class (cringe),' however, I can still easily discern who calls evil good and the light darkness. Just like all the posters that seem to fawn over Putin and his gov't. I don't have to like or despise one or the other. That's the horror of the world today, imho, I know that the Russian and the Chinese governments are past and future enemies, yet my own society and gov't is only better like voting for the lesser of two evils. I have no heroes, they're all dead.
Ron Paul isn't dead.
Taqiyya.
Too bad Americans can not see through these thinly veiled propaganda campaigns that have the objective of spending MORE monies to do empire all around the world while the people here drift toward poverty in this third world country.
Pathetic.
Well, on second thought maybe it is better to be able to get Americans foaming at the mouth to kill Muslims this way rather than to have them wake up as then TPTB would have to stage some sort of nuclear attack on US soil to get Americans drummed up.
If Senate Bill 2277 gets passed and signed, we can have a nice little nuke-off in Euro-land.
But you know how these wee spats can get out of hand.
I cannot believe that MEMRI ran an Iraqi program featuring a pro christian, anti ISIS segment. WTF? Those Mossad, well actually Shin Bet retirees promised Zionists are God's Chosen 24/7. Did anyone get taken in by these ZioLiars and contribute? ?
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4428.htm