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Why Don't Muslims Speak Out Against ISIS?!
ABC News’ Laura Ingraham, Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and complicit in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims should be met “with a bullet to the head”.
Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?
Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.
Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association explains:
“Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam.
Father Mallon is right …
Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reported last month:
Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.
The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims.
In a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.
In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”
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Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview.
The Independent noted last month:
Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at continued violence in its name.
Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group does not represent the majority of Muslims.
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Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has no place in religion, violence has no religion.
100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video denouncing the Islamic State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.”
Breitbart noted earlier this month:
Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the radical jihadists.
“The public have to be critical. This is not about [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf.
The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the world and concentrates on traditional Islam.
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Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam.
“That’s my point, this [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer losses.”
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These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul. The group claimed the rejection served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a negative image of Islam and Muslims.”
Al Arabiya News reports that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice, and he:
Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.
The Daily Star writes that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group violates Islamic law:
[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) - the largest Muslim group in the U.S. - called ISIS “un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” noted that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley “gruesome and barbaric”. See this, this and this.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim organization on the continent - released a statement denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said:
ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people.
The head Shia religious leader in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders in Iraq have all condemned – and called for war against – ISIS.
Al Jazeera reports:
Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the “number one enemy of Islam”.
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“Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims” ….
The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.”
ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims
The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any mosque. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. Hardly the acts of devout Muslims.
Huffington Post reports:
Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.
Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them.
In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5′s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [Here's the Guardian report.]
For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found that foreign occupation - and not religion - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter agreed]; the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men (and, yes, they usually are men).
Instead they point to other drivers of radicalisation ….
When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports.
And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead. And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler than a devout Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background).
I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian”. Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims”.
Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply anti-American.
And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would never have gained power if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders.
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I know a reporter who used to work for the Detroit Free Press. He told me there were many muslims speaking out against the actions of 9-11. so I asked why those stories were not showing up in his paper. He said he had actually written some, but his newspaper did not want to run those stories. This was back in the 2001-2003 time frame just as the U-S was gearing up for Iraq.
Yeah, but what do they say in their native tongue? Just Muslim disinformation for Western PR. Obvious, they awake and lie right before "emulating"the most perfect man; Mohammad with the tip of the blade. These modern slave traders musta got their training from the ZOG's. Hehe, more drek from Ahmed Geo Waaaaashinnnton.
remember taqqiya before you believe what a muslim says
Remember the Torah, before you trust a Jew.
Same idea.
Do you see Jews compelling non-Jews to convert to Judaism or face torture and death ?
Can't rightly recall other religions doing that except for the religion of Peace !
I guess the population of Gaza really appreciate the peaceful approach being taken by Israel right now.
If Israel decides to ignore the concept of peace, there will be trouble!
No, just globalism.
Charlemagne did a rather brisk business in seeking souls.
Our Latin cousins also were subject to some strident urgings in that direction as well.
A certain Mr. Cromwell & Co. were very enthusiastic bringers of enlightenment from the Plain Folk side of the aisle.
But as of yet, I'm unaware of forced mass circumcisions by the Sons of Abram although I'm sure Tony has some esoteric evidence of pre-Columbian American top-chopping.
Because Jews are EVERYWHERE.
No one can be compelled to accept the religion of Islam. People have a right to decide which path they choose to follow in this life and which religion they choose to follow.
No Muslim can compell another to believe in God. Belief is an act which can not be forced on another person.
All people are free to believe what they want. In the end God will judge if we chose to follow the truth or falsehood.
Dead people dont have beliefs
Yeah but Yeah but what about 1492? Oh yeah or 1140, oh yeah. Just thought I beat Ahmed Geo Waasshingggton to the punch. :)
How childish....Torah are books of the bible
Taqiyya and Kitman are concepts identified w/i the Koran.
Yep its a mind job all around. Like some kind of magic act. Its sad really but then I go and work with regular honest folks. They get it and its nice to see. Face to face people are pretty cool. The Hate pimps need to go away.
why dont muslims speak out against ISIS??? Wouldn't the better question be "Why don't amerikan's speak out in favor of ISIS??? Didnt we finance them and then make the excuse that they just happened to rob all these banks? Didn''t we arm them with rat lines out of Libya???
at least ole norths rat line had a cocaine nose job at the end of it. here we are just blowing up our own equipment that we "gave" to them.
I am a Muslim and I will speak out against the wrongs of people and the killing of innocent people, whether they are Muslim, Christian or Jews.
Well...let's hear what you would say.
I am a Muslim and I will speak out against the wrongs of people and the killing of innocent people, whether they are Muslim, Christian or Jews.
Let's face it, from the standpoint of population Egypt and Iran ARE the Middle East, and the hub of the Muslim world. We've seen nascent democratic movements stubbed out in both in the past few years. In both, bands of armed thugs with bitterly nationalist ideologies cling to power and skim the profits from the rest of society. These are the hallmarks of colonized societies that can't break free from the cycle of violence and malinvestment that ultimately keeps them broken and far short of their potential. Outcomes which are the strong second-best (short of maintaining the colonial rule outright) for the 'major powers'.
ISIS could be a game-changer but for now is merely the latest aspirant to the mafioso role for the Sunnis. It makes essentially no difference for the shopkeeper in Cairo or Tehran who is running around beheading folks in the wastelands. What matters is who is beheading folks in Cairo and Tehran.
*we can discuss oil and Mecca as a subsidiary theme*
*oh and Isreal, like that matters*
the past few years? the cia overthrew the elected leader of iran in 1954 and installed the shah who ruled until 1979. "and Isreal, like that matters".
it does. it raelly does.
A lot of intellectual laziness and cheap button pushing going on these days....but hey if you're into 'chaos' like Atwater, Rove and the DLC (birds of a bloody feather) then please, pretend a few more lines. Want a cracker?
Or, let us know what you think The Plan is for the Oil Area with Inconvenient Humans Near/On Top AKA the Middle East. And for bonus points, your own, better plan.
Oh go buy another Howard Zinn book.
Why don't you start with a little Fazlur Rahman and get back to me.
"The corruption of religious leaders, who were expected to be the source of spiritual force and regeneration, is the last step in the of decay of a community." Fazlur Rahman
Here! Here!
isis is a contrivance of israel, the number 1 terrorist state in the world, without peer - except for perhaps the usa. yet israel and rothschild satanists, using their treasonous dual citizen murderers, rule america.
isis = israel = mossad = cia = rothschilds.
israel is a genocidal state hellbent on destroying the united states. if america does not wipe out israel now, israel will destrroy it. ziocon satanist dick cheney has already announced the next 9/11, and he should know since he and israel did the first one. 100-200,000 people are targeted for the next assault which will be nuclear just like the first one. israel was enirely responsible for 9/11 with complicity from the ziocon murderers of the bush white house. it appears that the mossad owned isis will deliver the nuclear attacks, just like israel did in nyc, lebanon, and everywhere else their murderous shithole selves go.
the saudi arabs were cutouts for 9/11. isis is a cutout for israel this time around - not al qaeda - another cia-mossad contraption. of course the saudi royals are as despicable as the israelis, but the saudis are far too stupid to know better - which means that they could be the perfect american.
TONY BONN you and all the other anti-semites.
fuck yourself. the weaponization of islam for the hegelian dialletics of intelligence operations is largely accomplished by britain and the united states as well.
if you wanna blame mossad, without first off blaming the american and british military intelligence units which devised divide and conquer strategies long before israel's existence than youre a fucking anti-semite. fuck you.
i'm tired of you fuckers. many people even say israel itself was part of the british/american divide and conquer strategy. you didn't wnat to deal with the fucking mess you made of your refugees in europe, so the idea of a partition was just fine by you----especially with a willing class of zionist crusaders.
well guess what, isis wehther contrived or not, are a willing class of zealotous islamic crusaders. the same people kicked out of europe in the reconquista. blame the jews all you want, but at least we don't proseltyze, we don't multiply like rabbits, and we generally ASSIMILATE. muslims in the united states and europe don't assimiliate they have tons of kids, and there's 1 billion muslims that exist as a repository for emigration of migrants to the west.
there's 6 million jews in the u.s. and 6 million in israel. go fuck yourself you antisemties. and don't give me that rats ass bullshit about how being critical of israel is not being anti-semite.
it isn't always. but almost all anti-semites of which there are a whole lot-----will jump on the band wagon. and then they say---well, the jews accuse of us of being anti-semites but it's just becasue they are tricking us into supporting israel.
the whole thing is complicated for sure. but you're suicidally embracing unending immigration into europe from the middle east packistan and islamic embracing regions. the reason is appeasment of the major oil countries. that run their own cultures like slaves. ironically, but for the u.s. and the u.k. the radicalization of islam in persia would never have happened. and so the u.s. and u.k. ahve now used the radicalization of islam as a weapon against the middle east itself and the world ====by leveraging the chaos radicalists foist upon their own regions. and so, blowback sucks. i agree. but don't blame israel and jews for your fucking blowback.
the u.s. took over the phillipines and central america far before the existence of israel. the great game existed far before the existence of israel. and you fuckers have been blaming the great jewish conspiracy for all the worlds problems far before the existence of israel because a powerless weak people are a convenient scapegoat. blame the people who cannot defend themselves, people who , for 'tradiation ' or other 'sentimental' reasons hang onto their religion wchich really isn't all that much fucking different than conventional luthernism in many ways. and you scapegoat them .
again and again. this has happened to the jews. there is always an excuse to kill and rape and steal the property of minority groups. if there's any possibility that jews get this treatement more than most other groups, it's because we've used our brains to survive. and so, while scapegoating has resulted in the destruction of most historical groups over time, the jews survived to live another day and get scapegoated again.
how about those 'yazidis' in iraq being converted to islam. oh yea, it's mossad that wants to convert some random fucking zoroastrian babylonian minority group that survived for at least 1500 years to islam.
fuck you you anti-semite. if you cannot understand how the world's power dynamics and great game works, then fine, but stop blaming the fuckin jews, go blame the christians or the natzi's or the muslims or the pagans. fuck yourself.
I don't consider myself an anti-Semite. I also am getting pretty tired of supporting the socialist Isreali state, a state which knowingly attacked a US ship in international waters, watching my nation's political process being co-opted by wealthy "dual allegiance" Zionist activists, and watching Isreali military disproportionately persecute Palestinian civilians. It also wouldn't hurt if you called off your double-dealing, blood money turning, Fed peddling, globalist Rothschild dogs.
Nooooo, you must believe! Ignore what you see with your own eyes! It's not the zionists and their usury empire crushing the planet. It's those filthy brown people! Obey!
I like to refer to these virulent JewHaters by their own demographic distinctions: Left-hand sniffers, CAIR rectum-snooters, and Buchenwald Oven Operator Union (BOOU) members. According to a significant cadre of posters and authors, the Jews are responsible for all misery within the human condition. They plagiarize Mein Kampf without affording attribution. Don't do that on your term papers, it's a no no.
Yeah, no doubt about that. All the dysfunction you see with Islam is the fault of the Jooos. If you were about to get beheaded by an ISIS executioner, you would probably curse him out with your last breath for being a Zionist.
You are your ilk are so fucking stupid it just defies the imagination.
The contemporary Arab/Islamic world is so dysfunctional, so utterly devoid of logic that if you read comments from these people at web sites they frequent (When they're not posting here) or even public comments from politicians to other politicians, they when angry, call each other various contrivances of a Jew/Zionist. They even officially blame Jews for sharks being trained by Jews to attack tourists in Egypt. It is without a doubt societal insanity...institutionalized by the Book.
I suspect many of the people posting this nonsense (on ZH and other sites deemed "sympathetic") are professional Muslim or Leftist activists. Normal people who actually have to work for a living can't possibly be this dumb. To deny that Islam is a brutally violent, dysfunctional, backward religion is akin to denying the nose on your face. Anyone who blames Zionism or Judiasm for Islam's excesses is either lying about their true agenda or a weak-minded, useful idiot. Either way they are enabling the decline of the West and the rise of a new barbarism. When the latter takes hold, they won't like the outcome.
Judaism is actually the source of the movements destroying western Christian culture... Usury, Bolshevism, collectivism, feminism, lgbt movements, pornography, free trade, open immigration...
But you probably consider all this "progress", right?
Of course, because no one else partakes in any of those things but the Jews. Especially porn.
Progress? That would you and your ilk getting your collective heads out of your asses. Don't worry though, I'm not holding my breadth for that to happen.
partaking is a private issue... producing, pimping it and selling it... that is something else. and there is no question who dominates that business:
http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38
Partaking seems to be a muslim issue....wow, looks pretty bad man.
http://www.muslimsandtheworld.com/do-muslims-watch-pornography/
Book that trip to Mecca yet? You might actually live for awhile if you are carrying some good porn with you rather than a picture of Jesus, a cross or a bible.
Grimaldus
pretty amusing that the sheeple are blind to the secrets hidden in plain view.... can you not see that the IS in ISis.... is the same IS in Is-Ra-El.... Isis, Ra, EL.... time to forget what you think you know and start over.
I thought ISIS was a Bob Dylan song, Do'h! Another Hebbe.
I thought ISIS was John McCains long lost love children ;-)
Haaaater, and so apropos for a propaganda piece about the peaceful flower power thorns of Islam.
Do you think Israel has nukes emplaced in US cities? Just curious.
Don't encourage him.
I may change my mind about Islam when I see Palestinians turning in the criminal elements of their society.
That would likely require massive depopulating arrests. Maybe a denazification would allow for coexistence.
Would you change your mind if the Zionists did likewise?
Israel has arrested and prosecuted the criminals in their country.
You just don't read that part.
Please support your statement with something based in fact.
Hey ya big dummy, 5 IDF soldiers just in the past few months went to jail for simply posting nonembracing comments about Arabs on their FB page. FU
I'm really impressed.
All we need now is for Netenyahu to be prosecuted for genocide and things will start to improve.
Then we can start on all his accomplices - Congress and the Senate would change DRAMATICALLY.
All this talk of Muslim and Zionists, and Christians being separated and condemned for the politicians that as we all know we can not reach or do anything about. ISIS funded by all 3 are just doing the bidding they are paid to do and we all just sit here and condemn the other religious sect when a vast majority of the people have nothing to do nor can do anything about the violence. The one I feel the sorriest for are the jews when a few rotten apples have so many people on ZH against them. Reminds me of prior Hitler history. Question is will the past repeat itself. Just a thought and now let the red down arrows fly
I wonder how many of the commentators here have even been inside a mosque,
or heard a sermon in one. I have a feeling I am the only one.
An ET visiting earth, would be just as confused trying to understand the bible or the quoran.
Both can be cherry picked to prove what ever you want.
Its not as if christianity has not had its share of bloodthirsty history.Caused by a small minority,
the same as ISIS. Just the timing is too convenient , so IMO its about money and power,
with religion as tool to aquire them.
Same as it ever was.