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Why Don't Muslims Speak Out Against ISIS?!
ABC News’ Laura Ingraham, Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and complicit in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims should be met “with a bullet to the head”.
Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?
Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.
Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association explains:
“Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam.
Father Mallon is right …
Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reported last month:
Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.
The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims.
In a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.
In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”
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Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview.
The Independent noted last month:
Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at continued violence in its name.
Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group does not represent the majority of Muslims.
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Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has no place in religion, violence has no religion.
100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video denouncing the Islamic State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.”
Breitbart noted earlier this month:
Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the radical jihadists.
“The public have to be critical. This is not about [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf.
The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the world and concentrates on traditional Islam.
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Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam.
“That’s my point, this [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer losses.”
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These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul. The group claimed the rejection served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a negative image of Islam and Muslims.”
Al Arabiya News reports that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice, and he:
Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.
The Daily Star writes that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group violates Islamic law:
[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) - the largest Muslim group in the U.S. - called ISIS “un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” noted that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley “gruesome and barbaric”. See this, this and this.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim organization on the continent - released a statement denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said:
ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people.
The head Shia religious leader in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders in Iraq have all condemned – and called for war against – ISIS.
Al Jazeera reports:
Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the “number one enemy of Islam”.
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“Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims” ….
The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.”
ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims
The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any mosque. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. Hardly the acts of devout Muslims.
Huffington Post reports:
Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.
Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them.
In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5′s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [Here's the Guardian report.]
For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found that foreign occupation - and not religion - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter agreed]; the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men (and, yes, they usually are men).
Instead they point to other drivers of radicalisation ….
When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports.
And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead. And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler than a devout Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background).
I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian”. Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims”.
Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply anti-American.
And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would never have gained power if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders.
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if you can't make it to a mosque... there are always youtube lectures by Sheikh Imran or Yusuf Estates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_Estes) among others...
both usually deliver talks well worth a listen, regardless of whether you are a muslim.
Yeah but you asked someone for evidence, and I can judge by your comment that you were already aware of this bizarro over reaction by the Israeli gov't against the free speech of Israelis.
israel disciplining those idf grunts reminds me of lynndie england taking the fall for abu ghraib,
Does it really?
I just find that everywhere you look their is a total lack of logic.
The Israeli government use the death of one child to justify going out and killing 5 or 10 Palestinian kids then criticising the Palestinians for responding.
An eye for an eye and soon we'll all be blind.
US Christian fundamentalists who take the Bibel literally criticise Muslims for taking the Koran litterally.
What the fuck is that???
I'd be able to stop drinking, if the world made bit more sense - I might lapse every now and again ;-)
Christian fundamentalists? Who are they? And are they dragging socialists, muslims, and other 'infidels' into the streets to be massacred or even saying booo!
Decades of liberal MSM brainwashing is subtle but runs deep in the subconscious. They don't know why, they just believe it.
No, they are the ones supporting the election of neocon / neolib politicians who never saw an opportunity for empire building that they could pass up! They support the "special relationship" with the socialist Zionist state of Israel and persist in shoveling great gobs of foreign and military aid their way because they perceive some bizarre religious apocalyptic need to fast forward to the end of times.
"US Christian fundamentalists who take the Bibel literally criticise Muslims for taking the Koran litterally."
I'm not aware of Christian (US or otherwise...lol...but I did note you said US Christian) fundamentalists sawing off the heads of others who do not practice the faith they do.
Perhaps you could enlighten me where this is happening, in the US or elsewhere.
TIA ;-)
Where did I claim Christians were dragging people into the street?
It's more organized.
Western governments use Christianity as the divide, conquer and demonize technique to justify wars, killiing a lot more.
You inferred the criticism is without merit and/or hypocritical and specified US Christians:
US Christian fundamentalists who take the Bibel literally criticise Muslims for taking the Koran litterally.
It is a valid criticism toward these muslims, US Christians are not dragging muslims out of their homes in Dearborn Michigan (or anywhere else in America) and telling them to convert or pay a "special tax" for not being a Christian or sawing their heads off.
It is valid.
I see fake beheadings and Zionist controlled mercenary armies killing in the ME, not true Muslims... How can you tell? They are not attacking the source of evil behind the current global mess. When they start beheading bankers for practicing usury (a sin), then I will agree that they could be Muslims.
"When they start beheading bankers for practicing usury (a sin)..."
According to who, Aristotle?
http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/01/17/meet-the-real-deal-michae...
Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary is muslim, he could have went after the bankers right there in The City of London where he lived, instead of flying half way round the world to cut off a kidnapped reporters head...but he didn't.
There's no getting around the facts John, he's muslim.
With a totally Jewish administration? I'm confused...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/obamajews.html
Can you list the Muslims in his admin? And before you say Valerie Jarrett, better take a closer look:
http://blogs.forward.com/the-shmooze/135922/presidential-aide-valerie-ja...
Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary is a subject of "the queen" (not American) which probably led to the confusion.
He's British ;-)
you are only proving my point Nmewn. the british royal family claims descent from "the house of david":
http://www.originofnations.org/Royals/queens%20descent/The%20Queen%27s%2...
and yes, Obamao is related to the "royal family"
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20181471,00.html
when you step back take a hard look, all of the insidious evil pieces of the puzzle fit together.
(Rolls eyes)...come on John, none of that has anything to do with Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary hacking off the head of Foley and demanding Aafia Siddiqui's release from prison.
Obviously she's just an innocent Islamic flower caught up in some sort of CIA-Zio intrigue...I mean all Paki chicks walk around with cyanide hidden under their burqa's.
Right? ;-)
i try not to pay attention to bullshit psyops. big picture is all that matters. Big picture, the NWO is based on satanism, usury and pitting people against people. Blaming the muslims for any of this is missing the big picture, theough certainly some of them fall for it and play a role... but that is no different for Christians or any other group.
I think decent people are only blaming the marauding, butchering muslims who actually do it. And they've been doing it for centuries.
Certainly before our time John...like in Otranto, Italy 1480-1481.
But I guess that was jooos and/or CIA, Mossad, McCain or some variation of all of them combined too ;-)
i see you prefer the propaganda version of history... there is certainly a war going on, and has been for a long time. and anyone paying attention can easily see that Muslims are not the masterminds behind it... but rather have been on the receiving end of most of the bombing and mahem. look at the world today. just a bit of thought and observation shows that usury and debt have been the key weapons used to conquer and enslave, to corrupt and infiltrate. Muslims were not behind this... Muslims see usury as a sin, as did christians, until a certain pope reversed teaching. In short, all the spin and propaganda that the zionists MSM can conjure up is not going to stop the truth from coming to light... the MSM and army of trolls on the net and scream night and day about the muslim boogie man coming to take away our freedom... but its not going to work, people can increasingly see the truth. its only a matter to time now. ;)
Its not propaganda, its historical fact John. The Ottoman Empire came about how, exactly?
And the Riyad Bank charges interest, so I'm not sure I get your point on usury...
http://www.riyadbank.com/English/PersonalBanking/PersonalFinance1.html
...unless usury is defined as excessive interest, which I agree is immoral/unethical to offer as it is usually predatory.
Just because some group claims to be islamic or christian is almost meaningless.
The Saudis are a prime example. They are thoroughly Zionist and sold their souls to the petrodollar. The Bush family, or Obama are also good examples. So many layers of lies that most never get down to the simple truth, no matter what they say they are, their actions betray them as Zionists. Same goes for many of the socalled arab leaders in the ME. If you base your understanding on their words, not actions, you will get nowhere.
You keep trying to turn this back to the here & now while I'm giving you historical context for them doing the exact same things they've been doing leading up to, the here & now.
Bush & Obama weren't even alive. Israel was not a state. Holding people for ransom, selling others into slavery, raping conquered countries women, slaughtering their children and old people (useless eaters), ripping down statues, burning libraries and churches/temple/shrines, establishing caliphates where you swear allegiance to that governments religion, pay a special tax or die...is what it is.
No other religion or culture on earth does this or condones this.
It doesn't have a damned thing to do with Bush or Obama or jooos or fairies riding unicorns sprinkling pixie peaceful dust, its right there in front of you John.
Ignoring it doesn't change reality.
>>no other religion
you can't be serious with this... the so called "old testament" is filled with genocide, slavery and rape... comanded by "god"....
http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=21
you can't possibly be ignorant of this content... and this content is much older than the Koran, so what gives? why the selective memory? the problem the world faces today has everything to do with Jewish supremism... and this content is the root cause of it....
The entire quote is:
"No other religion or culture on earth does this or condones this."...meaning NOW. They have done it for centuries John and you know it and continue to do it.
We were speaking of the NOW here aren't we?
Or does Hamas, ISIS, Boko Haram, Ansar al-Sharia, Hezbollah etc. ALSO call on people to evacuate where they are NOW, so they won't be killed?
No, I didn't think so, they come as a thief and murderer in the night...big difference.
>now
so you missed the senseless slaughter of children in Palestine the past few months? oh yeah, we are supposed to blame hamas for all of that murder. right.
Did you miss the part where Hamas is digging tunnels into Israel? Did you miss the part where Egyptians killed Palestinians (Hamas) for doing the same at the other end of Gaza? Did you miss the part where every Islamic state treats Palestinians as their own personal dagger and doesn't give a flying fuck how many Palestinians die for their own amusement?
You missed all that, didn't you John?
nice try Nmewn, but that tired hasbara isn't fooling many these days. Gaza is under siege, self defense is the right of the Palestinian people. Go back to the beginning of this mess for the proper context. You occupy someone's territory, they tend to shoot at you. israel made its mess, now it gets the consequences.
I'm calling bullshit. Jews, Christianity and every other religion, including state worshiping ones, are under siege from islam. Mohammed was not happy until the Jews and Christians of Arabia were wiped out.
Book 019, Number 4366:
So Hamas does not call ahead, whocouldanoed.
You know what also works from time to time John? The realization that you're about to become tiny pieces of goo stuck to a wall somewhere...al-Nusrah released Curtis yesterday:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-24/american-hostage-released-by-al-nusrah-group-in-syria.html
I guess they didn't want the 72 virgins that bad.
The Christian Fundamentalists don't chop off heads, they support neocon politicians who bomb Moslems into the stone age. The net result is the same, dead innocents, the difference is that we are much more efficient and mercenary.
Neocons like those who supported Hitlary & Obama's "Arab Springy" Libyan war?
Use your head logicalman, Which collectivist ideology treats people as groups and divides by race, religion, age, gender, wealth etc.?
Most of 'em, it would seem.
He who wishes to lead must somehow get the herd into the field that he has control over.
Race, Religion, Gender, Wealth etc. are the tools of those who desire control over others.
Mr. Carlin nails it nicely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgps85scy1g
Some of these posters remind me of Media Matters, ThinkProgress, and the Freedom From Religion rank and file of the US Democratic Party.
Ignorance of what Islamists are, will not shelter them in the long run.
They can sprinkle all the rose petals and point to the rainbow overhead as they're all marched up to the wall all they want but they'll be given the same choice as everyone else, convert, pay a tax or die.
It is what it is, has been for centuries.
To use a trite and very over used phrase: Same as it EVER was.
Nothing like dropping 2,000 heads at the feet of Mehmed II to show you're a "good muslim".
Same as it ever was.
If Muslims tried to speak out, the MSM would keep it quiet anyway.
Doesn't fit the Agenda.
Why should any Muslims feel in the least obliged to apologize for ISIS?
It's not like ISIS were elected.
Let the people who do the deeds be the ones who answer for them, and leave everyone else out of it.
If Dear Leader Obama won't speak out against them why would they speak out against themselves?
It is pretty damning. The same thing would happen if Israeli's objected to zionists.
(see: norman finkelstein)
edit - oh yeah and...muslims speaking out against any of these extremists groups might wind up with their heads lopped off. It seems popular over there.
Here are two brave women, getting a little rough with ISIS.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/08/24/egyptian-feminists-defecate-in-...
Maybe they dislike Western terrorists and their toady governments more than Muslim terrorists.
After all, the Western terrorists have killed more people.
Who Benefits?
When ISIS wrecks kids and countries, who benefits? When Masked bandits like ISIS wreck Shia shrines and Christian churches, WHO benefits?
Who benefits when endless wars wreck Libya, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Gaza? Who Benefits?
Who Benefit$ when the MIC wastes $Trillions of American taxpayer dollars?
When ME people are poisoned by DU, When People who you never met, who never threatened you or me, never hurt you or me, are killed and their families ruined,
WHO Benefits?
- "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
Who benefits? Why WHO, of course (World Health Organization)!
Why would anyone criticize religious people for using drugs as author does. Isn't religion the opiate of the masses?
To summarize my "thoughts",
"Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker"
Gays????Blacks????Women????
Science????
Interesting redirect. I suspect there's a Joooo connection to these issues as well. Speak up JewHaters