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Why Don't Muslims Speak Out Against ISIS?!
ABC News’ Laura Ingraham, Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and complicit in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News host Andrea Tantaros said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims should be met “with a bullet to the head”.
Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?
Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.
Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association explains:
“Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer is: Muslims have been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam.
Father Mallon is right …
Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reported last month:
Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.
The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and 1.4 billion Muslims.
In a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.
In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”
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Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview.
The Independent noted last month:
Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at continued violence in its name.
Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group does not represent the majority of Muslims.
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Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has no place in religion, violence has no religion.
100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video denouncing the Islamic State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.”
Breitbart noted earlier this month:
Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the radical jihadists.
“The public have to be critical. This is not about [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf.
The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the world and concentrates on traditional Islam.
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Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam.
“That’s my point, this [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer losses.”
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These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul. The group claimed the rejection served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a negative image of Islam and Muslims.”
Al Arabiya News reports that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice, and he:
Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.
The Daily Star writes that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam – denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group violates Islamic law:
[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) - the largest Muslim group in the U.S. - called ISIS “un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” noted that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley “gruesome and barbaric”. See this, this and this.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim organization on the continent - released a statement denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said:
ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people.
The head Shia religious leader in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders in Iraq have all condemned – and called for war against – ISIS.
Al Jazeera reports:
Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the “number one enemy of Islam”.
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“Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims” ….
The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.”
ISIS and Al Qaeda Are FAKE Muslims
The 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any mosque. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. Hardly the acts of devout Muslims.
Huffington Post reports:
Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How about Messages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.
Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them.
In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5′s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [Here's the Guardian report.]
For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found that foreign occupation - and not religion - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter agreed]; the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men (and, yes, they usually are men).
Instead they point to other drivers of radicalisation ….
When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports.
And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead. And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler than a devout Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background).
I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian”. Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims”.
Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply anti-American.
And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would never have gained power if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders.
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i'm going with the likud party, dianne feinstein and the lockheed-martin corporation as a first approximation.
Didn't they all merge with Goldman Sachs?
Ding we have a winner.
The belief in a higher power is not an issue. The letting some self serving twat lead people by the nose into doing unspeakable actions is. It is what it is. This is madness turning ones blind faith into the most destructive forces thruout human history. The religious leaders should fight it out themselve with handgrenades in a phone booth.
Leaders must always be questioned about everything. Weather its the leader of a flock or a nation. Call me a simpleton or whatever you want. A good leader wouldnt need to hide the truth about anything. The worlds leaders have been spewing hate and outright lies for centuries.
Accountability changes everything.
Who benifits? Probably joodom nd of course oil companies also. Its really the old game of pin the tail on the donkey. Something mossad and the cia are world class at.
Who benifits? Probably joodom nd of course oil companies also. Its really the old game of pin the tail on the donkey. Something mossad and the cia are world class at.
Yes why doesn't Al Queda denounce them for being too violent? Oh wait....
That's akin to Al Quids denouncing HAMAS. Oh Brother
Actually ISIS did denounce Al Queda for being too moderate.
...comment appeard in wrong place....
Kill them all and let God sort 'em out.
Which God are we talking about here?
Dangerous ground.
There is only One True God! and it is ME!
They are speaking out...their silence vocalizes their disgust in ISIS's lack of performance...
Radical Islam is Marxism (more specifically Bolshevism) hiding behind a "relgion".
STOP CALLING IT RADICAL ISLAM !!! iSIS and Al Qaeda are the REAL Islam. They are following the teachings in the Qurr'an, Hadith and Siras. The RADICAL Muslims are the ones that don't pray several times a day.
The same GOD? Not quite. Muhammad as a boy was immpressed by the Jews and Christians and he later 'borrowed' from the Torah and Bible. He disagreed with the concept of 'father, son and spirit' so he decided his God was the only God, Jesus must have been a Prophet like him. In Mecca was the Kaaba, a central place of worship for Arabs who had several dieties. The principle diety was a moon God called Al-ilah which was shortened to Allah. Some think Allah is derived from Hubal, another moon God but I think Al-ilah makes more sense.
Muhammad claimed to be a prophet, like Jesus and Abraham, so everyone assumes they share the same GOD. I don't think so.... one wages war and other calls for peace.
The other may call for peace but it's adherents sure as hell manage to serially ignore the call!
'adherents' ...like blind sheep, right. Wow, you have an undisciplined mind
The only Christians that I know of that are truly representative of the religion are the Church of Christ. They live their lives strictly according to what Jesus taught and only that. I'm not sure whether their gospel includes the occult books of the Bible (Enoch, Thomas, etc.) but the tenet is sound.
BTW, Jesus, being a "Jew"*, ate kosher. So why do Christians today eat pork?
* term did not exist when Jesus was alive
I am Chumbawamba.
Only the Israelites were under the Law given to Moses at Mt. Sinai (see below). Christians believed that the death of Jesus fulfilled the law (Jesus became the blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sins required under the law). Christians also believe that other barriers created by the Law to keep Israel separated from surrounding nations were lifted after the death of Christ - including the restriction on what one could eat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter%27s_vision_of_a_sheet_with_animals
The Law of Moses – from which come the 10 Commandments – was given only to the Children of Israel. It was given to no one else. The Gentiles (New Testament Church) were/are bound only by the four requirements listed in Acts 15:20 – which are subsets of the Noahide Law. Any church that does not teach this cannot be considered a New Testament church. Any layman who does not let this truth inform his debate cannot be said to really understand the point of the New Testament. See in particular Acts 15:9-10.
If you seriously are interested in how non-Jews are not bound by the Law of Moses, read through these two links for an introduction to this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Moses
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. (Romans 2:14; NIV)
From Acts 15: (NIV) The early church leaders met in Jerusalem and decided that, indeed, the Law of Moses did not apply to the Gentiles (non-Jew). See in particular Acts 15:9-10.
Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.” The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: ... (Acts 15:5-7)
"BTW, Jesus, being a "Jew"*, ate kosher. So why do Christians today eat pork?"
Because BACON.
"During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.
In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.
Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers"."
the rest:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere.
J39 - you are being a bit silly. Is it on purpose, or do you seriously not know?
Judah and Jew are English words. Did English exist as a language at the time of Jesus?
Reframe your argument, using the Hebrew (Aramaic), Greek, and Latin terms for Judah and Jew. Did those Hebrew and Greek and Latin terms for Judah and Jew exist at the time of Jesus. What was it that Herod had written and attached to the top of the cross upon which Jesus was crucified: King of the what? (writtn in Aramaic, Latin, and Greek) In the Nativity story in Matthew, who was it that the Magi inquired of King Herod about - where is he that is born, King of the what? (in their native language of course, not in English).
The words Judah and Jew and 'King of the Judeans" or "King of the Jew" have very much been employed since the time of Jesus. Just not always in English. But certainly in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin.
Judea was a geographic area... Judeans were people from that area... Jesus spoke Aramaic, not hebrew, though much as been done to conflate the two.
Evidence: the term "Jew" doesn't appear in the English literary corpus until after 1650:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=jew&year_start=1500&year_e...
-Chumbz.
Man, you are some full of shit
lol. Yes, Bush the Christ liberated Iraq and Afghanistan in the name of peace. He liberated the HELL out of them!
I am Chumbawamba.
Bolshevism is obviously and openly Talmudic...
What's ironic, is it is the SAME God.
The God of Abraham. Different "prophets" to Him.
But, on topic, they are as guilty as they blame us for the sins of OUR leaders/military.
Every time I read that statement I know that the person has never read either the Bible and Quran. The deities revealed in the books are completely different regardless of the claims of the Quran that the deity is the same as the Bible.
Both holy books are created by men for men, and that is before you apply the agendized, or outright crackpot, spin. Then, of course, I suppose there are no internal inconsistencies in either holy book? We all know that no blood has been spilt over the Holy Bible and that no genocides have been practiced by its professed adherents. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? Please, Christian Fundamentalists, tell me what Jesus Christ was the Prince of? This in no way is intended to excuse Islamists for their own sins and empire building episodes. Or Buddhists. Or Hindus. Or the animists or Ikk people or Unitarians or who whomever else has a crusading axe to grind. This shit needs to stop. Too many cynical men are profiting by misery.
Yes, because Christians have been duped into worshipping an impostor god of war named YHWH, whereas Jesus was teaching about the one true God.
There is no god but Allah. Allah is not God.
I am Chumbawamba.
So true. And recall that Jesus warned, in the future (present day) even the very elect would be deceived by the war god's lies and his synagogue (of satan).
Look around today, so caled Christians support and defend the very evil Talmudic mentality that led to Jesus' murder.
If Jesus were around today he'd be turning over tables inside the Christian megachurches. The Christians who go to those types of churches wouldn't even understand.
-Chumbz.
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:24
and yet the fluoridated, vaccinated, gmo stuffed, obese masses in the U.S. the mega churches somehow think they have it all figured out...
It's simple. Anyone claiming to be the returned Messiah is a liar. The real Messiah won't have to say anything, he'll just be silently performing miracles.
-Chumbz.
>>miracles
like creating money from thin air?
No, that's "magic" ;)
-Chumbz.
i hear you, just being sarcastic. all this will get straightened out when the time is right. hopefully soon.
You forgot to take your meds again, didn't you, Chum?
“have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”
The only problem I have with that statement is that is not true..
at least if you follow the prescriptions of the Koran or live a llfe like their chief holy man "prophet".
And that “same God” argument..
Yeah, if I steal your car, spray paint it flat black, paint skull and crossbones all over it and put manacles in the passenger seats for the women.. it’s the same car.
...well, it's almost true
Muslims just want to keep their privilaged status and continue to colonize the west. They hope they can deal with us later. They seem to be ignorant that NSA leaks show Mossad run ISIS
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by...
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/isis-is-run-by-simon-el...
Jews are behing the open borders movement
http://nationalistasatrunews.com/news-central/resources/resource-a-concl...
http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-Br...
and Jews have only brought them into our nations to destabalize us so we can't face the Jewish menace, while providing support for Israel of course.
Egyptian Muslim woman gets naked and poops on an ISIS flag. She's kind of hot looking too. In Germany this would be considered porn.
http://victorygirlsblog.com/egyptian-female-activist-poses-nude-and-poop...