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Creepy Mission: Obama "Lays Groundwork For Air Strikes" In Syria Next

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What's the opposite of 'limited' air-strikes? As The WSJ reports, The Pentagon is preparing to send surveillance aircraft, including drones, into Syrian airspace to gather intelligence on Islamist targets, laying the groundwork for a possible expansion of the limited U.S. military air campaign beyond Iraq, senior U.S. officials said. The 'Nobel-Peace-Prize-Winner-In-Chief' appears to have suddenly gone full hawk-tard - one wonders which little birdy whispered in his ear that, with the Fed pulling out, the whole ponzi is up unless the US undertakes a populist deficit-bursting war...

 

As WSJ reports, The Obama administration move to send drones over Syria...

...amounts to an acknowledgment that U.S. intelligence-collection efforts must be expanded to provide a better picture of the threat posed by the group calling itself the Islamic State, which holds large swaths of Syrian and Iraqi territory.

 

The U.S. military's Central Command, which oversees American operations in the region, has requested more surveillance aircraft, including drones, to gather more intelligence on potential Islamic State targets, and officials said they could start flying missions over eastern Syria shortly.

But what about the Syrians?

U.S. officials said Syrian air-defense systems in eastern Syria won't pose a threat because sensors are either sparsely located or inoperable. The drones would enter Syrian airspace without any Syrian regime approval or authorization, U.S. officials said.

Not like it's the first time?

American officials have conducted at least some secret flights with drones and manned aircraft inside Syrian airspace in the past, including during a July raid to try to rescue a group of Americans held by the Islamic State.

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So just to confirm... Putin is the "Hitler-esque" destroyer of nations and Nobel-Peace-Prize winner Obama, currently bombing (or planning to bomb) various nations, regardless of borders, is the world's protector?

We are sure we must be over-simplifying this here... ah yes, it's for humanitarian reasons... oh wait, is that Russian humanitarianism or American humanitarianism?

 

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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:19 | 5142552 Cattender
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Doing God's work..

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:20 | 5142555 Rican
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They're all full of shit.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:33 | 5142604 nope-1004
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and greedy for earths resources, as destabilizing other nations allows the "good guys" to pilfer local natural resources.  These wars are the same as they have always been - To the winner go the spoils, to the loser defeat and despair.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:38 | 5142628 COSMOS
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The Russians should do the same with Ukraine.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:45 | 5142648 Liberal
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If Obama wants to wage more wars, I am all for volunteering other people's children to go fight them. 

Because Obama.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:56 | 5142694 camaro68ss
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What the fuck is going on. This double speak is spinning my head.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:15 | 5142987 MalteseFalcon
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I thought Russia and China strongly opposed US intervention.  Wonder what they are thinking?  I suppose the Russians could help Syria upgrade their defenses in eastern Syria.

Is this move completely unilateral by the US?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:53 | 5143134 Tabarnaque
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Listen to this. The Russian sent food and water to the suffering Eastern Ukrainian population and the USSA is all up crying at the violation of a sovereign state by Russia! And now the USSA want nothing less than send bombers into Syria airspace? Fucking mind blowing.

 

If the USSA start bombing inside Syria then look at another false flag that will "justify" the full use of military force against Assad. The USSA won't be able to bomb only IS. These incontinent bombers will be way too tempted to make a few strikes to help their own rebel supported groups. Like, bomb IS in US supported rebel areas so that IS is forced to concentrate its fighting power against Assad...

 

I don't understand why Assad is not asking the Russian to provide direct bombing support instead of letting the USSA entering the scene. That part here makes no sense to me. If Assad thinks that he will be able to control US intervention inside Syria then he is deluding himself. The US intervention will be shaped in such way as to strengthen its rebel group and to leave Assad as weak as possible. This is the USSA's back door entry inside Syria.

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:03 | 5143182 greyghost
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"a populist deficit-bursting war"??????? who the hell writes this trash. they have taken populists and now equated them with these nonstop wars! WHY? the author doesn't like "populists" or is it "war" or maybe "deficit-bursting". you see more and more of this lowlife writing on zerohedge. been here for years and this kind of crap writing is becoming the daily fair. just a gut feeling i have had for many months that maybe the original cast is long gone. with more and more propaganda. subtle, very subtle

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:49 | 5142661 Bossman1967
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exactly. un fucking believable. and you know one day some country gonna do this to our borders oh wait South America already is. how this market keeps going up and gold/silver keeps going down is just totally crazy. do the laws of economics and common sense mean anything or is that just an old person thinkin I'm 46

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:03 | 5142722 BlindMonkey
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I'm confused. Does Mexico have unmanned aerial vehicles or are you equating fleshy invaders as drones?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:10 | 5142740 Bossman1967
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who knows what country in South America is sending what here I'm thinkin prayer rugs are flying over the border. I said nothing about Mexico but S America a whole lotta countries sending their kids here

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:24 | 5143271 BlindMonkey
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That ''minor" bit is a ruse to pull at the heart strings. FYI.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:21 | 5143938 Majestic12
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"who knows what country in South America is sending"

1967 says it all...  While you were being diapered, the US of A was instigating banana republic warfare in all of South America by using the CIA to bring us "nice guys" like Pinochet (Google it).

America supplies more weaponry and military "aid" to South America than anywhere else to support "the war on drugs" ...which makes sure that the US is in control of all wholesale drug dealing to support black ops programs with off the books cash....

Your ridiculous claims of South American "masterminds" who are "sending kids" and "prayer rugs" as if it is something other than your obvious youth and meth addiction, is ludicrous...

You sound like a 46 year-old lunatic who has been a shut-in...yet, you own a computer and an internet connection...so your excuse for "not" knowing the US's involvement in South America is definitely not excusable....so, shock us all and do a little "reading"...I know, it will hurt, but you may be surprised....

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:21 | 5142559 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Doing the "work" of the invisible magic man in the sky seems to increasingly be the privilege of the military-industrial complex.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:25 | 5142570 Smegley Wanxalot
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Give credit where it's due:  God does Obama's work.

I know cuz they said so on ABCNNBCBS.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:58 | 5142703 Freddie
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Liberal DEMOCRATS and blacks voted for this.

I hope Syria has S300 and S400's to shoot any shit down.

Maybe they can send that piece of crap the F-35 over Syria. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:09 | 5142743 NihilistZero
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DUMBFUCKS like you still believe we wouldn't be waging the EXACT same banker wars if Romney had won???  Kill yourself so the IQ average at ZH will go up a few points.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:22 | 5142778 john39
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Well, it might be a little different if Romney had won. We would have nuked Syria two years ago... And we would be bombing Palestinian kids directly, rather than just supplying the bombs.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:30 | 5143946 Majestic12
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NihilistZero and john39:

notice all the down marks...the number of right-wing (as in believe in Fascist statements, but "title" themselves "Republican", "conservative" or "Libertarian") trolls here is growing....

Yeah, their "stealth" political correctness of using populist appeal to create the appearance of "consensus" is right out of the Koch bros. playbook....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:23 | 5142565 OMG
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The Pentagon is preparing to send surveillance aircraft, including drones, into Syrian airspace

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Statement means we've already done that & are doing that & will continue to do it!

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:37 | 5142626 JuliaS
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Indeed. Most government statements can be summed up with:

 

A. Today we're prepared to admit...

B. Today we're going to deny...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:24 | 5142567 Catullus
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They must have crossed a redline like Assad

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:40 | 5142635 booboo
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Careful, john McCain might be setting up a photo op with a group of freedo er terrorist and may get droned.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:25 | 5142579 f16hoser
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It's always been about Syria. I love the way "they" used a Brit in the Staged Beheading. Now, they can convince the British Pairliment to go along with a Syrian Invasion. That's what stopped the bankers last time. Dumb Ass Cameron couldn't sell it to Pairliment.  The beheading was fake. Nuff said.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:28 | 5142585 nope-1004
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Totally agree.  The beheading was real, but the perpetrator(s) were actors.

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5142714 tony wilson
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listen you are all wong herel

have you not got eyes to sea

the dummy was real

latex for sure.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:24 | 5142783 john39
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But that dummy took it like a real man.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:39 | 5142846 max2205
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There's this book, Beheading for Dummy's

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:45 | 5143571 tony wilson
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now that on a non slow night is worth 40 up ticks : )

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:40 | 5142638 NoDebt
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Fake beheading or not, I've come around to believing this ISIS threat was manufactured as a way to get us into Syria through the back door (after Obama failed so horribly getting us to go in through the front door).

These guys came up VERY fast to prominence.  Even the oldest intel reports weren't screaming about them until a few months after Obama failed to do as he was told, and launch attacks on Syria/Assad.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:46 | 5142657 Iocosus
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Even the Telegraph called bullshit. It's simply a precedent setter.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:51 | 5142676 knukles
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen....
Let us merely conclude that the Eternal Existential Threat upon Whom to Wage the Perpetual War has Successfully been Established.

New World Order

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:26 | 5142794 john39
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Big brother just can't ever seem to get that Emmanuel Goldstein can he...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:39 | 5142851 Al Huxley
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It's got British public opinion back onside for 'revenge against the evil terrorists' so I guess pretty much served its purpose.  The cocksuckers running this show seem to be willing to go to any lengths to achieve their objectives.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:02 | 5143179 thamnosma
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It was NOT that the beheading was faked.  Foley lost his head alright, it just wasn't on camera by that ninja.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:03 | 5142719 klockwerks
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Following things as close as I do I figured that out right away. All a scam to go back into Syria and I am awaiting Putins response. Last time he jumped over the red line and scared our fearless leader to death.  NEW PLAN B. Yesterday it was we are going in and bomb them and break stuff, today it was lets think about this and everyone stepped back. Mr O, Putins on the red phone. You just can't make this stuff up.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:12 | 5142749 Quus Ant
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If some of us saw through the charade Putin and China are all over it and have countermeasures in place.  Manufacturing consent takes longer than it used to. 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:55 | 5143962 Majestic12
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"You just can't make this stuff up."

...and yet, here we all are typing away....instead of lining up 1%'ers in crosshairs....

...keep your eye on the shiny object.....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:06 | 5142730 Al Huxley
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I hadn't really thought of it, but it seems plausible now that you mention it.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:37 | 5143953 Majestic12
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"It's always been about Syria."

Yeah, but get off the "ideology" train fest here....

It's "STILL" all about the Qatar and Saudi gas pipeline into Europe via Iran and Syria....to displace Gazprom completely in Europe and cripple Russia by smiting their biggest export and source of income....

It used to be a story that was regularly covered here at ZH, but seems to be buried in Russian "invasions", plane downings, beheadings and other "shiny objects"....

Keep your eye off the ball.....you are getting sleepy...very hungry, and sleepy.....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:34 | 5142586 nmewn
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Wassup with the brown guy killing brown people?

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Wut...its true ain't it? ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:41 | 5142629 tony wilson
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you sayanim types are forever saying barry is a muslim.

he cannot be

he is from your synagogue of satan tribe kleinfelt in my naive anti semetic view.

his muslim kill rate is even better than fuc king nuttyahoo.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:07 | 5142737 nmewn
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Uhhh, he attended a mad-rasa as a you't. He admits it, its in his book, you should read it. Loved the sound of the call to muslim prayer, if I recall correctly.

Now, this is the second time you've called me sayanim (this time I goggled it) and a Jew.

Do you have any evidence outside of your own everything-muslim-is-good dementia?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:26 | 5142802 john39
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And he has a wife... But he is still gay. See how that works?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:47 | 5142811 nmewn
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Yeah, you and Tony are room mates.

I get it.

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Wahtsa matter "fellahs" dish it out but can't take it? ;-)

Pouting..lol.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:48 | 5142882 Freddie
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Maybe you have been hanging around Kirk or Kurok who posts here.  Tony bitch slaps that little zio on a regular basis.   The same mensch Shatner who drowned his goyim wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IADPTCVHWxU

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:07 | 5142960 nmewn
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Well I don't know about any of that but John & Tony make a nice couple.

Don't you think? ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5143217 Seize Mars
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Yes.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:52 | 5143586 tony wilson
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i do not believe in cia barry

his book is a lie.

i always believe the mossad cos the word honest is engraved on dere hearts

as for you

you kosher mut you cannot be israeli isis  not on 4 dollars an hour.

 

 

Efraim Halevy, the head of the Mossad, Israel's espionage agency, or as he is usually introduced in English, the chief of the ISIS (Israel secret intelligence service). SIS is the official name of MI6, the British version of the Mossad; Halevy was born in Britain and came to Israel as a youth.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:13 | 5142745 BlindMonkey
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I guess he is lucky the Nobel prize is Nordic.

Then again, it is named for the guy that invented dynamite. It is somehow very fitting.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:38 | 5143955 Majestic12
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"Wassup with the brown guy killing brown people?"

Guy Fawkes = the "new" Grand Wizard?  Clever... ;|

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:28 | 5142588 Chupacabra-322
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Imagine a room full of Pure Evil Psycopathic Criminal CIA Scum Fucks attempting to script together more False Narratives, PsyOp & Propaganda The American People / The World aren't buying any more.

The whole illusion has completely spun out of thier control. Amateurs.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:45 | 5142650 booboo
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Not like the good old days when a spook could put together a real plausible operation. Just were the fuck are they recruiting these hobby globbers, the cast of Glee?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:00 | 5143880 Confused
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There have never been good old days for 'spooks.' They have always, and will continue to be, the pawns of bigger players in the interest of conquest. 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:40 | 5143956 Majestic12
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" the cast of Glee?"

 

booboo, you're killin' me!  I have to stay near the bathroom whenever I read your comments...!

+1

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:15 | 5142757 BlindMonkey
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Lots of Oval Office photo ops on the web. Not hard to imagine at all.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:53 | 5142898 Pure Evil
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There was a meeting of all the top evil doers?

How come I didn't get the memo?

Damn, I wish I could've been there.

Had some really good shit cooked up.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:29 | 5143297 Wahooo
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You're not a Cabinet member.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:58 | 5143607 TheReplacement
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How many people have you convinced to decapitate someone else so you can convince another country to help you fight the people you convinced to decapitate someone so you can take the oil?

Yeah, you just aren't that evil.  Sorry.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:44 | 5143959 Majestic12
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There was a meeting of all the top evil doers?

PE, it was for "real" evil doers, like the "9th Circle"....

We all know (hope) that you're not a member....

Damn, I knew I shouldn't have put that in writing...black choppers over my house again...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:28 | 5142592 kchrisc
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How does the CIA and Obama spell ISIS? A - S - S - A - D. I foresee some targeting "errors."

Israel must have pipeline and Lebensraum at any cost to the rest of the world.

An American, not US subject.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:33 | 5142609 Chupacabra-322
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Na, Putin will Cock Block that attempt as well. How do I spell ISIS? CIA.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:48 | 5142662 Al Huxley
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I think the idea is to keep him busy in the Ukraine and hope he doesn't notice.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:54 | 5142685 knukles
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Actually I think his idea is to keep the West busy in Ukraine and hope we don't notice his advances elsewhere.

Where's Crimea?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:04 | 5142727 Al Huxley
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Maybe, except that we always seem to be the instigators.  Wasn't it our guys who kicked things off in the Ukraine?  And in Syria prior to that?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:40 | 5142853 BlindMonkey
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Yeah but VP Judo'd the fuck out of the west. He got the jewel of the Ukraine without firing a shot.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:06 | 5142953 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Just throwing this out there, but what if Putin can be persuaded to turn the other way on Syria if we stay out of the Ukraine? I know the gas pipeline through Syria that this whole shit show is all about would undermine his near monopoly on supplying gas to Europe. However, by the time that is complete, Russia could have set up the infrastructure to ship their energy exports to china, ignoring an indebted and falling apart Europe all together. This is pure speculation on my part, just a different possibility I haven't heard mentioned

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:25 | 5143508 Al Huxley
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Or they did it to stir up anti-Putin sentiment in the west so he can't ride in and be the hero.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:09 | 5142739 Chupacabra-322
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Brother, you can best believe Putin's been all over it since day one. Least you forget, we're dealing with a Patient Chess Player Vs. a take it in the Gums & Brown Golfer.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:23 | 5142780 Hephaestus
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I'm beginning to think that Putin is the most dangerous man alive. Can you imagine what he could do if he had the military/spy resources of the US.....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:35 | 5142833 Freddie
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I would guess his intel is pretty good.  He has the best missiles in the world, the best fighter aircraft in the world - so I would not underestimate him. 

Most of the US defense contractors have so much waste, AA hires, shitty software, unionized factory workers, endless waste and corruption and major shareholders who are of the Jonathan Pollard variety.   The software for the F-35 is not even close to being done and it is a piece of shit.  US weapons systems filled with crappy Chinese components. 

Israel's Iron Dome is a scam.  Their Merkava tanks are easily taken out by cheap Russian Kornet anti-tank missiles.  Ditto US M1s. 

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36076.htm

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:40 | 5142855 Freddie
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Short video - Putin kicking oligarch ass.  I bet this billionaire oligarch  was pissing in his pants. 

A hero to the Russian people while white Democrats and American blacks gave us Obama.  F you liberals. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flC---s2moA

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:49 | 5143120 Hephaestus
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You guys made my point. He started with a total USSR wreck. Now he has kick ass toys and top flight intelligence. Not only that but his govt. can be effective. What if he had begun with what Obama had when he first went into office? Putin and his govt. have made fools of the US over and over without 130 bases in whatever countries. His leadership ablility is so strong it must make the Chinese at least a little nervous! He is like the little tiny kid kicking the shit out the class bully. The great big heavy kid is watching the fight. He sees how the US govt. can not get a solid hit. Every blow from Putin either hurts or causes shame for the bully. Putin is scary good at this game of thrones!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:28 | 5143294 Wahooo
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"Give me back my pen." Classic.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:11 | 5143461 Amerikan Patriot
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It almost sounds like you envy the man that aims to re-create the Soviet Union, currently controls all of Russia's major media outlets and has his political opponents killed, imprisoned or placed under house arrest.

You silly goose!

 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:14 | 5143641 Hephaestus
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No..I do not. I do however acknowledge that he is brilliant and talented. It is fun to watch him screw with other Oligarcs I will give ya that. The guy I would want to elect would have Ron Pauls principles, Putins cunning and George Carlin's delivery.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:07 | 5143444 Amerikan Patriot
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Actually, this video is Putin saying "I don't care if you're able to make a profit here or not - it's hurting me politically, so re-open the damn factory NOW or I'll go against every free market principle and confiscate it from you!"

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:18 | 5143253 daemon
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" Na, Putin will Cock Block that attempt as well "

That could prove difficult. Syria is "far away" from Moscow.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:19 | 5143757 Hephaestus
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Since Syria terminates the new silk road the Chinese may have something to say about it.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:03 | 5143920 daemon
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" .... the Chinese may have something to say about it.  "

Something to say, definitely. Something to do ? Don't know in the end, but I doubt it.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:59 | 5144566 Hephaestus
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Pretend you are locked in a jail cell with 20 people.  One guy is twice as big and twice as strong as every one else.. even you. You watch big guy kill 3 of the other prisoners.  What ya gonna do? Stand up and get pulped too? No you keep your mouth shut and stare at the floor while waiting for some advantage.  But while you wait you realize big guy just killed two more. Wait too long and you may wind up alone with big guy.  Attack too early and fight big guy 1 on 1 while every one else cowers in the corner.

I would wait until I could see that all the others had come to the same conclusion. Then when big guy is tired and fighting one of the strongest prisoners... I would attack big guy from the rear without warning with absolute brutality. Teeth to the jugular  fingers through his eyes into brain.....no trick is to dirty because there is only ONE CHANCE and big guy will never stop killing. If I timed it just right the other prisoners would join me even big guys lackeys...and down he would go.

So if the Chinese move don't be surprised if satellites fall from the sky, ships sink at sea and millions of PLA pour out. It will be a war. Not a police action on a 90lb weakling state.

China nor Russia seek a fight. I think they are hoping desperately that big guy has a heart attack and dies before they have to act...... big guy has been looking tired and confused he keeps putting his hand on his chest.....

 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 11:53 | 5145105 daemon
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" China nor Russia seek a fight. I think they are hoping desperately that big guy has a heart attack and dies before they have to act...... "

Yes, I tend to agree..... but doesn't this mean precisely that they probably won't try to directly prevent the US from attacking Syria ?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 15:22 | 5146178 Hephaestus
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I feel the only way they can win is if everyone works together. If trust between them is broken and Sryria falls Iran may be lost too. They will stall but the real red line I think is Syria. Last time the US tried to get in the front door Russia had a very strong reaction. What is less talked about is the monster assault ship the Chinese just happened to send training close by...

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:01 | 5143615 TheReplacement
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Nothing a few hundy k Iranians can't fix.  Word is they are cooperating with the Kurds.  The foot is in the door.  The only thing between Iran and Israel now is ISIS.  Toss in some SA-300/400s and it gets interesting.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:30 | 5142597 SweetDoug
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So-ooo… We're now going to be bombing the guys that were our allies about 2 years ago?

Nice…

 

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V-V

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:49 | 5142665 Al Huxley
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You say that like it's a new thing, and not the standard modus operandi.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:31 | 5142606 SmittyinLA
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US to Syria:

"Stand down while we bomb the terrorists we funded waging war against your country"

We have a criminal govt.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:36 | 5142622 Fuku Ben
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Obama deserves the ultimate Einstein Pacifist Lifetime Achievement Award

What a true humanitarian

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:39 | 5142631 I Write Code
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How about doing the airwork for ground strikes?  Anyway what does Obama know about strikes, he's not even a bowler.

Still we apparently have the New Obama Doctrine: red lines and borders don't mean shit.  Not the Afghan/Pakistan border, not the Syrian border, not the US/Mexican border, not his own redlines in Syria.  At worst take a penalty and swing again.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:39 | 5142633 benb
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He's a puppet for the Corporate Fascist Entity. It's all theater. All an act. The O-Boy gets his instructions from a rep from Kissinger Associates every day. The CFR, the Bilderberg Group, the Tri-lateral Commission run the show. Turn off your T.V.s.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:19 | 5142765 Chupacabra-322
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You left out The City of London, The Vatican (Jesuits), Zionist Isreal, Rothchilds, Comm. of 300 etc....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:40 | 5142636 SantaClaws
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Any movement on closing our borders?  Every action has a reaction.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:45 | 5142639 JustObserving
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As Seymour Hersh reveals, Obama almost lied America to war with Syria with false claims that Assad had used sarin.  The Nobel Prize Winner will not be denied his Syrian war for long:

 

The Red Line and the Rat Line


Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdogan and the Syrian rebels

 

In 2011 Barack Obama led an allied military intervention in Libya without consulting the US Congress. Last August, after the sarin attack on the Damascus suburb of Ghouta, he was ready to launch an allied air strike, this time to punish the Syrian government for allegedly crossing the ‘red line’ he had set in 2012 on the use of chemical weapons.?? Then with less than two days to go before the planned strike, he announced that he would seek congressional approval for the intervention. The strike was postponed as Congress prepared for hearings, and subsequently cancelled when Obama accepted Assad’s offer to relinquish his chemical arsenal in a deal brokered by Russia. Why did Obama delay and then relent on Syria when he was not shy about rushing into Libya? The answer lies in a clash between those in the administration who were committed to enforcing the red line, and military leaders who thought that going to war was both unjustified and potentially disastrous.

Obama’s change of mind had its origins at Porton Down, the defence laboratory in Wiltshire. British intelligence had obtained a sample of the sarin used in the 21 August attack and analysis demonstrated that the gas used didn’t match the batches known to exist in the Syrian army’s chemical weapons arsenal. The message that the case against Syria wouldn’t hold up was quickly relayed to the US joint chiefs of staff. The British report heightened doubts inside the Pentagon; the joint chiefs were already preparing to warn Obama that his plans for a far-reaching bomb and missile attack on Syria’s infrastructure could lead to a wider war in the Middle East. As a consequence the American officers delivered a last-minute caution to the president, which, in their view, eventually led to his cancelling the attack

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-li...

It must be noted that no media in the land of the free would carry Seymour Hersh's story.  It had to be carried by the London Review of Books which has a circulation of about 62,000.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:21 | 5142773 Freddie
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No this is a cover story for the Joint Chiefs too.  The gas was a lie that is true.

Russia had 8 ships between the US Navy and Syria.   China also had a big missile cruiser there and the ocean probably had many subs underwater.   Any Tomahawk cruise missiles would have flown over Russian ships and would have been easily shot down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPEkPVdd-3Q

There were other versions of of this story that Israel launched them and the US destroyer immediately shot them down. 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-on-syria-the-september-2013-militar...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36076.htm

Syria also has the P-800 Yankhont anti-ship missiles which can reach as far as Cyprus.   Putin will not give up or sell out Syria because Iran will be next. 

 

China and Russian ships in the Mediterrean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdpnQKpcLMY

Also Putin said that if the USA attacks Syria then the House of Saud and Saudi Arabia will be hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7sg5aw6Ecs

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:42 | 5142642 symtex411
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All of this should also serve to moviate the Dem base once the House start an impeachment process for yet another violation of the constitiution. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142788 Freddie
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You are silly if you have any faith in Congress to do anything to save America.  That train left the station. Ditto expecting the US Military doing anything to defend the Constitution.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:48 | 5142658 the wet spot
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Wait!  Is John McCain aware that his good friends in ISIS are about to be carpet bombed back to Mecca :*(

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:51 | 5142675 Al Huxley
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I don't think sociopaths have actual friends, in the normal sense of the word, so he's probably ok with it.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:06 | 5143629 TheReplacement
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He probably only has two questions:

How much money?

How much power?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:16 | 5142760 blindman
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the problem for the united states of military industrial and
corporate financial and entertainment complex front is that
spying with drones and killing at a distance, which technology
has made possible, profitable and common place must be
framed in a psychologically appealing light. right there,
there is a dilemma. how to foster a population of productive,
creative and social humans based on industry founded in
creepy surveillance and execution at a distance? and you have to
go into astronomical debt to accomplish your own destruction!!!!
.
seems like a recipe for doom, the kind of thing only
a homicidal quisling would serve or concoct.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:17 | 5142761 peanuts
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Somehow I don't think the new war plans are going to save our economy.  It's a different economy than what it was before ww2.  Just sayin......

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:30 | 5142818 blindman
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wars are about reassigning and refinancing old
or bad debt, conquest or foreclosure. the economy
of technology puts the cart before the horse,
some call it civilization but it always
destroys, first, the things it holds most close,
dearest.
anyway poems ^tm

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:22 | 5142779 lindaamick
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When the Russians thwarted the first attempt to bomb Syria via negotiating the removal of chemical weapons, the US had to think up another strategy to get the bombing started in Syria.

The ultimate plan is to disintegrate the sovereign state borders in the ME reducing it to weak, tribal areas so that Israel will become the regional powerhouse and the weak states and their local oligarchs will allow western corporations in to extract natural resources. 

It is all layed out in the Grand Chessboard.

Of course there is no thought or concern for the hundreds of thousands of women and children who will lose their homes and lives nor the wholesale destruction of cities and historical infrastructures.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:24 | 5142786 NoWayJose
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If the US uses drones shaped like MH17 the drones will be invisible to Western radar systems...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:26 | 5142798 NoWayJose
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Wanna bet the the US spy drones will be passing intelligence data to Israel and to the 'moderate rebels' in Syria?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:29 | 5142808 indaknow
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It's about time somebody conducted "limited airstrikes" on DC. and maybe a little humanatarian aide to the rest of the US. You know...for the children, and maybe to spread a little freedom and democracy. when empires are in their death throes it sucks for everybody

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:36 | 5142832 Jack Burton
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Not only that, this afternoon, CNN laid the ground work for US boots on the ground in Syria. CNN and their military experts pointed out that bombing can't stop ISIS, and Assad was evil and we can't cooperate with him against ISIS, so, they said Americna boots on the ground in Syria will be required if we seek to take on ISIS. Nobdy objected to that point of view. And since we know CNN is an official organ of the US State Depratment, that many of it's staff are CIA, and that their news comes in the form of officially approved Government hand outs, we can assume that boots on the ground in Syria is offical state policy.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:02 | 5142936 Freddie
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You need air power for boots on the ground and ships.    The USA will lose ships and planes if they try that and Putin is not going to let it happen.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5143220 thamnosma
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The buildup to the first and second Iraq wars along with the Afghanistan campaign required several months of obvious and blatant movement of supplies, ships, planes and personnel before any attack began.   Everyone paying attention on the planet knew those invasions were coming.  You can't sneak that level of "kinetic action" into theater in a few nights.  I figure the US is currently only capable of small unit actions via Seals, Special Forces, etc.   We are literally tapped out. 

 

Is the Obama Regime reckless enough to believe such limited action can eliminate IS?  That sort of hubris is extremely dangerous.  And then what?  Nation building?  Do they plan on attempting an occupation of those parts of Syria and Iraq IS now controls?

 

Pure madness.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:20 | 5143263 Wahooo
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One round table and two smaller square tables should suffice in getting ISIS to the peace talks.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5143248 potato
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With the economy the way it's going, and the armed forces accepting only 20% of potential recruits, there is a long line of people willing to potentially die invading a foreign land. Good for them.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:09 | 5142849 cn13
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Who are these "U.S. officials" so often quoted?  Can we please have a name with some real accountability?

For some reason when I read these headlines,  I envision Obama sitting in his bathrobe not wanting to wake up to hear the morning security meetings saying, "Yea whatever.  Do what you need to do not to bother me again".

And then he heads of to the golf course.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:42 | 5143255 Bollixed
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It wouldn't surprise me if it's the other way around. The morning security meeting is called and OBO is told to get his ass out to the links.

It hardly matters, he'll read about the decisions later when he stands in front of his teleprompter.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:05 | 5143193 thamnosma
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Recall last Friday...just a few days ago.  Secretary of Defense said IS is an immediate and grave danger to the US -- "Get Ready" he warned.  Same day Senator Imhofe claimed IS had plans to "blow up" an American city.   Nothing like a few days to negate that apparent bullshit as the Joint Chiefs of Staff announced today that IS is no danger to the US proper at this time.    At least we are free to choose various versions of reality. 

Any photos of those destroyed Russian tanks yet?

 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:53 | 5143716 Joebloinvestor
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The same was said for the "banking crisis".

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5143219 Amerikan Patriot
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What exactly is it Obama should be doing that wouldn't invoke the wrath of Zero Hedge?

If he sends missiles or bombs raining down on Syria, he's gone 'full hawk-tard'. 

If he doesn't do anything, he has a 'do-nothing foreign policy'.

It sounds like he's going to get crucified by y'all regardless, not because he's violated any set of principles per se, but simply because you don't like him.

Is that about the sum of it? 

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:26 | 5143237 thamnosma
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Basically his regime created this monster and nobody is putting it back in its cage.  The Libyan war crime kicked this all off.  That's where we empowered the international jihadist movement.   The path of destruction then ensued.  A tangled web of bad policy and bad moves.  You're right -- I detest him for whatever course of action he chooses as there was no need to even be in this position, though probably less is better at this point.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:15 | 5143241 Wahooo
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He could pull out of the Middle East entirely, stop giving the Jew theocracy any money and stop sending arms and cash to every Muslim sect that raises its hand. Basically, he could stand down and let the Mid East take care of itself.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:22 | 5143268 thamnosma
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Sounds like a plan to me.  Their oil mostly goes to Europe, Japan and China anyway.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:53 | 5143394 Amerikan Patriot
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For the better part of Obama's nearly 6 years in office, that's precisely what he's done...stand down.  It's only recently that Obama has looked even remotely 'proactive'.

Early on Obama was tweaked here and elsewhere as having no foreign policy.  He clearly had no appetite - nor do most Americans for that matter - for further military misadventures.  Isn't that in accord with the Ron Paul dogma?

Now that Obama seems more inclined to swat at a terrorist or two, he's lambasted once again. 

Why?  Simply because he's Obama.

Let's face it, the needless spilling of blood and treasure by Bush II has created a lifetime of headaches for any American commander in chief.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:58 | 5143605 bid the soldier...
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It's obvious you don't believe that the Eunuchs, aka the CIA, had no role in the Syrian, Libyan, Egyptian and Maidan revolutions, devising plans, bank rolling billions, and slipping into the costume of Agent Provocateur or sniper to provoke the police into shooting students. 

I'm sure you know a much better way of spending an annual budget of $50 billion.

Lots of picnics and barbeques is more your style.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:58 | 5143417 Amerikan Patriot
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Israel isn't ruled by a theocracy, Bob - you silly goose!  In fact, Israel's Knesset includes no fewer than a dozen Arabs. 

Now, which Arab enemy of Israel's includes Jews in its governing process?  Please, take your time....

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:03 | 5143621 bid the soldier...
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12 Arabs out of 120 MKs.

Have they ever been asked to join a government?

If an Israeli ever voted with them, how far down his party's list would he end up or would he just be asked to leave the party?

 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:28 | 5143896 localspaced
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True, the Obama bashing is pretty instinctive here...but it's well earned. His foreign policy has been an unmitigated disaster. I don't take sides, Romney or just about anybody from the republican side would've been just as bad, if not worse. And it's the Bush boys that lit the fuse under Iraq, but nothing Obama did has helped the situation. It's like there's no policy with him. He's just flailing about, supporting this group here, that group there and then turning around on them. 

 

Overall, he's managed to squander more international respect for the US than Bush did. And that's saying a lot. You can tell by everything that's going on. That downfall of IS hegemony was inevitable but he has managed to speed it along greatly. One more president like this, or another Bush, or some tea party nut...and it's all over. You'll wake up in a Russia - China centric world. 

 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:46 | 5143707 JoJoJo
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Darn, Putin was right again. But Obama will still razPutin.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:34 | 5143893 Aussie V
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#1 Create "The Problem!" 9/11, Al Queda, ISIS Poroshenko etc

#2 Make the outworkings of "The Problem" horrific as possible (Innocents burning, blowing people up, film people diving from 80 story windows, Beheadings etc)

#3 If the horrificness isn't gaining enough attention from the insensitive masses to warrant next move, create sub section #3b

#3b Sacrifice a virgin. A US citizen or, as many US citizens as possible. A US mother and child would be good or, maybe a plane load of innocent people especially focussing on young innocent children.

#4 Once the public is attentive and now outraged at the level of the inhumanity, Take Charge! Use a deep voice and a presumed pretended Authoritive Position with lot's of pretend balls and.......

Then, pronounce to the world that we will destroy the destruction with some "Freedome Bombs" which will destroy the destructive evil we have seeded, financed, trained and carefully created.

#5 Take over all resources of targetted country, kill all educated and elected members of the population with ANY conscience, integrity or national worth of targetted country who cannot be bought.

#6 Once resources (Gold, Oil, Minerals) have been taken, burned or raped announce that the job is finally completed with a sanctamonius smile and be sure you are out of Office before the targetted countries population are all being raped, and in complete civil war and flames.

#5b Make a Hollywood movie based on complete fiction but pretend that it is documented factually using Matt Damon, Tom Hanks, George Clooney etc to complete the public's imagination that they are still the good guys serving a Government full of wholeness and goodness with many many "Freedom Bombs" left for future conflicts that will threaten the US National Security .

Job Done!

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