Forensic Expert Says Foley Murder Video "May Have Been Staged"

Tyler Durden's picture

While there have been many suggestions, some of very dubious nature others not so much, that the ISIS video showing the execution of James Foley may have been staged, faked or otherwise fabricated (especially after Scotland Yard warned that sharing or merely viewing the infamous YouTube clip of Foley's murder is a crime and is punishable under anti-terror laws, stunning virtually everyone), it wasn't until today that an actual forensic expert opined - apparently one who isn't afraid of the criminal charges headed their way - that something may be wrong with the 4 minute 40-second clip. The Telegraph reports that an "international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used."

While the expert analysis does not deny that the video ends with the death of Foley, it alleges that the execution itself may have been staged, "with the actual murder taking place off-camera." In other words, the implication is that the British jihadist in the film may have been the frontman rather than the killer. Which also means that the manic scramble that has gripped the UK to identify "Jihadi John" may be one giant misdirection whose purpose is not quite clear.

The Telegraph continues:

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.


“After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black,” the analysis said.


Sounds allegedly made by Foley do not appear consistent with what may be expected.


During Foley’s speech, there appears to be a blip which could indicate the journalist had to repeat a line.


One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”


However the company, which requested anonymity, did not reach a definitive answer.

Nonetheless, it concluded: “No one is disputing that at some point an execution occurred.”

Still, if even one part of the clip is questioned, it opens up a whole can of worms, with a plethora of questions suddenly demanding an answer: why the manic pursuit to prohibit dissemination and viewing of the video? After all, over a decade ago the beheading of Daniel Pearl by Al Qaeda also was available on the web, and there was no talk of criminal charges against anyone who shared the video, let alone merely viewed it. Also, why fake the execution scene, and what goal does ISIS really pursue with the release of the tape? Finally, if indeed the video was staged and "post-produced", who was directing, and why?

And then, if one proceeds along this path of asking questions, there many other, far more "conspiratorial" questions emerge if the coherent plotline behind the video as presented for public consumption, or rather the prohibition thereof, unravels. But we will leave those for another night.

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vmromk's picture

Cui bono ? Ask the Federal Reserve who benefits from this fake execution.

The Central Bankers are the REAL terrorists.

Barnaby's picture

Cui gives a shit? It's got a bow on it.

BLOTTO's picture

Maybe thats the reason why 'they' would consider someone a terrorist for watching that 'gruesome' video...cause its bogus?


Jim Stone site talks about it on the top of his for consideration:


NoDecaf's picture

This could be why the Syrian govt went out of it's way to say any flights over it's turf to go after ISIS would be considered an act of aggression....they know it's a BS excuse to get US warplanes in their airspace.

maskone909's picture

NoDecaf nailed it. Plus one to you my good man.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

The halflife between conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact seems to be getting shorter and shorter.

BLOTTO's picture

Conspiracy theory is just a smear word created by them. Ask any criminal investigator/detective and they'll tell you 100% their are conspiracy theories.


Those that dont believe in conspiracy theories show a sever lack of functioning brain waves and mental retardation. What, theirs NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES on this planet?! Really? come on man...


What the real hard part also to do is to understand all this going on is to think a bit hocus pocus like...because logic is not making any sense.

armageddon addahere's picture

Never forget, the US was FOUNDED on conspiracy theory

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism"

From the Declaration of Independence.

balolalo's picture

At least ZH has the fucking balls to call bullshit!

BellyBrain's picture

The experts:  Every person with a BRAIN who watched the video and said "That shit is fake as hell."  Many of them made their own videos about it, and the YouTube-isphere was teeming with them.  Honestly, this one was too easy...distraction?  Maybe...

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"Conspiracy" is or has become such a laden and dirty word.

Ambitious, competitive, driven, focused, like-minded. relentless, ruthless and powerful people don't 'conspire'.

They 'collaborate'. They 'cooperate'. They may even 'collude', but they don't conspire.


PT's picture

It's only a "conspiracy" when you're not in on it.  Otherwise it's just called "helping out your mates" or "just getting things done".

Freddie's picture

Assad and Syria better have their S300 and S400's ready.  Hopefully they have a little suprise for the Saudis and Qatar if Syria is attacked.  ISIS was created by the West.  Putin, Russia, China and Iran need to stand with Syria.

Otrader's picture

You're supposed to watch the video and not question it.  Is everyone here NOT a team player? Sheeesh.

hesk's picture

+1 for "the departed" ref.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Plausible deniability, I see what you did there.  There will be a knock at the door in 5 minutes.  Answer it.

palmereldritch's picture

ISIS = [insert definition]

It's what the is is

Christophe2's picture

Maybe it's a desperate plea for existence (plausibility):

'is is' = 'I am! I am!' [says the hand-puppet]

palmereldritch's picture

You're on to something.

They think they define reality so now the're just rubbing it in our faces....

Atlas Crapped's picture

I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

Atlas Crapped's picture

I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

Atlas Crapped's picture

I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

q99x2's picture

ISIS works for Obama, Hitlary and McCain. It is a CIA psyop video. We've seen many of them and know who the enemies are.

williambanzai7's picture

Criminal carges for sharing the video?

trulz4lulz's picture

And terror watch list for watching it too. Meh. Watched it, figured I was already on Schindlers list.

Rican's picture

I figure everyone on ZH is already on multiple lists.

Grande Tetons's picture

I made $9500 staging beheadings last week. All I needed was a kitchen knife and betacam. 

quasimodo's picture

Ya, but how much did your sister make off camera?


nmewn's picture

Meanwhile, the bodies are pilied up around Mosul, thats just a fabrication too.


Someone disagrees?

So the refugees on Mount Sinjar the Kurds rescued were...just stranded motorists looking for a place to picnic?

john39's picture

Are there incubators being unplugged, mobile biwarfare labs and yellow cake there too?

nmewn's picture

Lets do it "John".

Do you deny what jihadists are doing?

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

IMO they are mercs.  The bit about them being on jihad is to 'induce fear' AKA terror.

They are... The Boogeyman!  And they're coming to GETCHA!

nmewn's picture

I want the boi's to answer me, you're opinion is noted.

conscious being's picture

Do you deny what radical nmewn is doing?

nmewn's picture

I've never denied my radical side, I'm not a pacifist, I won't lay down in a ditch and be drilled in the back like a fucking Shiite.

Is that what you wanted to know?

tony wilson's picture

lay down son

go on

lay down rest your shylock head

you did your best

failed the test

and shot your load

not firing just

dumped out air.

no seed was sown

just a  poof of wind  and a stale

wiff of gefeltafish

Lea's picture

"IMO they are mercs.  The bit about them being on jihad is to 'induce fear' AKA terror."

Clean chic black attire, Rolex watches, glossy reports, perfect training/organization, staged videos, Saudi/Qatari financing... yes, one can have one's BS detector flickering like a electric Xmas tree.

john39's picture

flogging for another military intevention using fake jihad as a pretext?  no thanks... cut off the money and arms flow to the mercs, and this all goes away...  including the comical propganda videos that can no longer even fool teenagers... 

nmewn's picture

Answer the question John Boi...better yet, answer the question of why an Egyptian "rapper" BRITAIN starred in the video.

Come on boi...

john39's picture


answered that part below.  its perfectly obvious.  how better than to sell the war on (fake) terror, 2.0, in the homelands of Europe and the U.S. than with native speaking (totally scary) islamists (gasp), who grew up at home, went to war to learn the trade... then came home to sow terror (oh the horror), where they can blend in and dissappear.   even better,  they can start rounding up anyone they want using this pretext...

and while the sheeple are worrying about non-existent terror threats, the bankers have robbed ever single man woman and child in the western world of their future. and killed millions around the world.  they are the true terrorists, everything else is pure propaganda designed to conceal that fact.

nmewn's picture

All those people on the mountain (saved by Kurdish "muslims") are fake. Got it. All the Aramaic speaking Christians from Mosul butchered & driven from their homes for centuries are also...fake. Got it. All the Shia laying in the bottom of a ditch being sprayed with bullets, never happened. Got it.

Its all pure propaganda, an illusion of the mind, no ones really dead at all, these are all obviously incantantions meant to bring death & destruction down on poor innocent jihadis minding their own business.

They've posted the videos & pics to prove it ;-)

tony wilson's picture

yes they exist battalions  and regiments  all of them marching singing dancing dancing.

not the musselamic shuffle

just the talmudic snake crawl.

thousands upon thousands of adam pearlmans comin to your neighbour hood all the way from nuke city dimona.

the yiddisha takin care of greater israel oil and gas futures business


BUSTED: Foley Beheading done with CPR DOLL

Otrader's picture

The part of the 'play' ended.  We're in intermission.  I wonder what the second part of the play will bring?  It's a good bet that it will be shocking.

tony wilson's picture


changed your satanic avatar you  talmudic cunt

nmewn's picture

Ahhh, "Johns" room mate has arrived...outstanding.

Would you like to answer my question from above?