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Forensic Expert Says Foley Murder Video "May Have Been Staged"

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While there have been many suggestions, some of very dubious nature others not so much, that the ISIS video showing the execution of James Foley may have been staged, faked or otherwise fabricated (especially after Scotland Yard warned that sharing or merely viewing the infamous YouTube clip of Foley's murder is a crime and is punishable under anti-terror laws, stunning virtually everyone), it wasn't until today that an actual forensic expert opined - apparently one who isn't afraid of the criminal charges headed their way - that something may be wrong with the 4 minute 40-second clip. The Telegraph reports that an "international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used."

While the expert analysis does not deny that the video ends with the death of Foley, it alleges that the execution itself may have been staged, "with the actual murder taking place off-camera." In other words, the implication is that the British jihadist in the film may have been the frontman rather than the killer. Which also means that the manic scramble that has gripped the UK to identify "Jihadi John" may be one giant misdirection whose purpose is not quite clear.

The Telegraph continues:

A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.


“After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black,” the analysis said.


Sounds allegedly made by Foley do not appear consistent with what may be expected.


During Foley’s speech, there appears to be a blip which could indicate the journalist had to repeat a line.


One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”


However the company, which requested anonymity, did not reach a definitive answer.

Nonetheless, it concluded: “No one is disputing that at some point an execution occurred.”

Still, if even one part of the clip is questioned, it opens up a whole can of worms, with a plethora of questions suddenly demanding an answer: why the manic pursuit to prohibit dissemination and viewing of the video? After all, over a decade ago the beheading of Daniel Pearl by Al Qaeda also was available on the web, and there was no talk of criminal charges against anyone who shared the video, let alone merely viewed it. Also, why fake the execution scene, and what goal does ISIS really pursue with the release of the tape? Finally, if indeed the video was staged and "post-produced", who was directing, and why?

And then, if one proceeds along this path of asking questions, there many other, far more "conspiratorial" questions emerge if the coherent plotline behind the video as presented for public consumption, or rather the prohibition thereof, unravels. But we will leave those for another night.


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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:28 | 5143027 vmromk
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Cui bono ? Ask the Federal Reserve who benefits from this fake execution.

The Central Bankers are the REAL terrorists.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:31 | 5143043 Barnaby
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Cui gives a shit? It's got a bow on it.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:42 | 5143087 BLOTTO
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Maybe thats the reason why 'they' would consider someone a terrorist for watching that 'gruesome' video...cause its bogus?


Jim Stone site talks about it on the top of his for consideration:


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:48 | 5143113 NoDecaf
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This could be why the Syrian govt went out of it's way to say any flights over it's turf to go after ISIS would be considered an act of aggression....they know it's a BS excuse to get US warplanes in their airspace.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5143233 maskone909
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NoDecaf nailed it. Plus one to you my good man.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:25 | 5143283 Herd Redirectio...
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The halflife between conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact seems to be getting shorter and shorter.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:49 | 5143358 BLOTTO
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Conspiracy theory is just a smear word created by them. Ask any criminal investigator/detective and they'll tell you 100% their are conspiracy theories.


Those that dont believe in conspiracy theories show a sever lack of functioning brain waves and mental retardation. What, theirs NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES on this planet?! Really? come on man...


What the real hard part also to do is to understand all this going on is to think a bit hocus pocus like...because logic is not making any sense.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:20 | 5143487 armageddon addahere
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Never forget, the US was FOUNDED on conspiracy theory

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism"

From the Declaration of Independence.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:57 | 5143723 balolalo
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At least ZH has the fucking balls to call bullshit!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:32 | 5143819 BellyBrain
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The experts:  Every person with a BRAIN who watched the video and said "That shit is fake as hell."  Many of them made their own videos about it, and the YouTube-isphere was teeming with them.  Honestly, this one was too easy...distraction?  Maybe...

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:17 | 5143804 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Conspiracy" is or has become such a laden and dirty word.

Ambitious, competitive, driven, focused, like-minded. relentless, ruthless and powerful people don't 'conspire'.

They 'collaborate'. They 'cooperate'. They may even 'collude', but they don't conspire.


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:33 | 5144084 PT
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It's only a "conspiracy" when you're not in on it.  Otherwise it's just called "helping out your mates" or "just getting things done".

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:05 | 5143427 Freddie
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Assad and Syria better have their S300 and S400's ready.  Hopefully they have a little suprise for the Saudis and Qatar if Syria is attacked.  ISIS was created by the West.  Putin, Russia, China and Iran need to stand with Syria.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:39 | 5143549 Otrader
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You're supposed to watch the video and not question it.  Is everyone here NOT a team player? Sheeesh.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 20:33 | 5147286 hesk
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+1 for "the departed" ref.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:43 | 5143091 aurum4040
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C%I^A(1x1) ~ ISIS

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:20 | 5143262 Herd Redirectio...
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Plausible deniability, I see what you did there.  There will be a knock at the door in 5 minutes.  Answer it.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:37 | 5143542 Otrader
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Van pulls up - "Flowers By Irene"

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:07 | 5143633 palmereldritch
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ISIS = [insert definition]

It's what the is is

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:15 | 5143748 Christophe2
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Maybe it's a desperate plea for existence (plausibility):

'is is' = 'I am! I am!' [says the hand-puppet]

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 18:27 | 5146918 palmereldritch
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You're on to something.

They think they define reality so now the're just rubbing it in our faces....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:39 | 5143340 garypaul
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Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:22 | 5143986 Atlas Crapped
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I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:24 | 5143987 Atlas Crapped
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I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:24 | 5143988 Atlas Crapped
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I would suggest that it's who they serve that are the real terrorists. If staged, it was done so to foment public outrage in an attempt to get the populace behind what is coming.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:27 | 5143028 q99x2
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ISIS works for Obama, Hitlary and McCain. It is a CIA psyop video. We've seen many of them and know who the enemies are.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:29 | 5143037 williambanzai7
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Criminal carges for sharing the video?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:34 | 5143060 trulz4lulz
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And terror watch list for watching it too. Meh. Watched it, figured I was already on Schindlers list.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:51 | 5143126 Rican
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I figure everyone on ZH is already on multiple lists.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:00 | 5143174 Keegan11
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I love lamp.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:07 | 5143199 Grande Tetons
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I made $9500 staging beheadings last week. All I needed was a kitchen knife and betacam. 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 08:13 | 5144158 quasimodo
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Ya, but how much did your sister make off camera?


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 03:54 | 5143876 mc225
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lizsts schmists

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:54 | 5143068 nmewn
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Meanwhile, the bodies are pilied up around Mosul, thats just a fabrication too.


Someone disagrees?

So the refugees on Mount Sinjar the Kurds rescued were...just stranded motorists looking for a place to picnic?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:00 | 5143170 john39
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Are there incubators being unplugged, mobile biwarfare labs and yellow cake there too?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:10 | 5143211 nmewn
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Lets do it "John".

Do you deny what jihadists are doing?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:22 | 5143269 Herd Redirectio...
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IMO they are mercs.  The bit about them being on jihad is to 'induce fear' AKA terror.

They are... The Boogeyman!  And they're coming to GETCHA!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:25 | 5143284 nmewn
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I want the boi's to answer me, you're opinion is noted.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:01 | 5143422 conscious being
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Do you deny what radical nmewn is doing?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:08 | 5143443 nmewn
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I've never denied my radical side, I'm not a pacifist, I won't lay down in a ditch and be drilled in the back like a fucking Shiite.

Is that what you wanted to know?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:40 | 5143555 tony wilson
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lay down son

go on

lay down rest your shylock head

you did your best

failed the test

and shot your load

not firing just

dumped out air.

no seed was sown

just a  poof of wind  and a stale

wiff of gefeltafish

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:53 | 5143960 Lea
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"IMO they are mercs.  The bit about them being on jihad is to 'induce fear' AKA terror."

Clean chic black attire, Rolex watches, glossy reports, perfect training/organization, staged videos, Saudi/Qatari financing... yes, one can have one's BS detector flickering like a electric Xmas tree.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:27 | 5143290 john39
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flogging for another military intevention using fake jihad as a pretext?  no thanks... cut off the money and arms flow to the mercs, and this all goes away...  including the comical propganda videos that can no longer even fool teenagers... 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:32 | 5143311 nmewn
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Answer the question John Boi...better yet, answer the question of why an Egyptian "rapper" BRITAIN starred in the video.

Come on boi...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:47 | 5143366 john39
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answered that part below.  its perfectly obvious.  how better than to sell the war on (fake) terror, 2.0, in the homelands of Europe and the U.S. than with native speaking (totally scary) islamists (gasp), who grew up at home, went to war to learn the trade... then came home to sow terror (oh the horror), where they can blend in and dissappear.   even better,  they can start rounding up anyone they want using this pretext...

and while the sheeple are worrying about non-existent terror threats, the bankers have robbed ever single man woman and child in the western world of their future. and killed millions around the world.  they are the true terrorists, everything else is pure propaganda designed to conceal that fact.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:58 | 5143412 nmewn
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All those people on the mountain (saved by Kurdish "muslims") are fake. Got it. All the Aramaic speaking Christians from Mosul butchered & driven from their homes for centuries are also...fake. Got it. All the Shia laying in the bottom of a ditch being sprayed with bullets, never happened. Got it.

Its all pure propaganda, an illusion of the mind, no ones really dead at all, these are all obviously incantantions meant to bring death & destruction down on poor innocent jihadis minding their own business.

They've posted the videos & pics to prove it ;-)

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:28 | 5143492 tony wilson
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yes they exist battalions  and regiments  all of them marching singing dancing dancing.

not the musselamic shuffle

just the talmudic snake crawl.

thousands upon thousands of adam pearlmans comin to your neighbour hood all the way from nuke city dimona.

the yiddisha takin care of greater israel oil and gas futures business


BUSTED: Foley Beheading done with CPR DOLL

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:33 | 5143530 Otrader
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The part of the 'play' ended.  We're in intermission.  I wonder what the second part of the play will bring?  It's a good bet that it will be shocking.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5143226 tony wilson
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changed your satanic avatar you  talmudic cunt

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:16 | 5143245 nmewn
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Ahhh, "Johns" room mate has arrived...outstanding.

Would you like to answer my question from above?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:30 | 5143299 john39
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whining about multiple ID's?  seriously?  complain to the webmaster if it makes you feel better.  that is rather easy to confirm or refute...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:02 | 5143322 nmewn
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I don't whine to anybody...John Boi...I'm calling your ass out and your demented butt buddy Tony.

Answer the question, why were those people on that mountain? 


Oh yeah, while we're dickin around with muslim squirrels, something a little closer to home:

Department of Justice attorneys for the Internal Revenue Service told Judicial Watch on Friday that Lois Lerner’s emails, indeed >>>all government computer records, are backed up by the federal government in case of a government-wide catastrophe.<<<  The Obama administration attorneys said that this back-up system would be too onerous to search.  The DOJ attorneys also acknowledged that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) is investigating this back-up system.

Yeah...and that too.


Don't worry, it'll come out tomorrow.

Its all backed up...just like we've been saying ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:09 | 5143454 Freddie
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Are you expecting any criminal activity by the corrupt US govt and Lois Lerner to face justice?  LOL!   You are a fool. 

Are you related to Lois and Jonathan Pollard?  Is that a Guy Fawkes hat your are wearing or an Orthodox Rabbi's hat?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:12 | 5143460 nmewn
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I always knew what you were, boi.

Too many tells, nice try over time though.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:17 | 5143479 conscious being
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Are you speaking in tongues now?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:45 | 5143573 Freddie
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LOL!  IS this the real guy or did some zombie steal his account.  He used to be a good poster.  I guess it is his orthodox rabbi hat in his avatar.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:59 | 5144051 nmewn
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Unlike you who could never find his ass or his hat with both hands.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:54 | 5143596 Slave
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Do you disagree with the (R)tards on anything?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:53 | 5143380 tony wilson
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you got satanic demon blood and a dog in this fight girly your words are zionist shite.

less hasbara bro

more hasboro ho

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:09 | 5143423 nmewn
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Nice up arrow from your boi "John".

Or did you do that for your own satisfaction?


Whup...confusion reins...down vote it!...down vote it!!!


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:23 | 5143501 conscious being
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Tony - he's also (no surprise, given the baggage he has to carry) a 9/11 truth denialist .. in the Guy Fawkes mask no less.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:58 | 5144048 nmewn
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Why were they demanding the release of Aafia Sidiqqui and what is her connection to 911?

Deny that dumbass.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:12 | 5144370 tony wilson
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oh dear oh dear

check the date darlin

your dancing mossad tribe been busted the dumb arabs with box cutters meme has been busted.

some arabs as useless tools being controlled by the rabbi ye sir.

controlled by the rabbi or just made up stories.

my suggestion is go tell your shit to a greater israel forums your memes may have some traction you cunt my guess is your intel is 10 years to late.

what a rancid rabid fagin like charachter you are.


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 18:36 | 5146947 nmewn
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The weird part about arguing with you is you produce a lot of words yet never say a thing.

Why were those people on the mountain, boi?

I'll answer for you because you're incapable of producing a cogent sentence and your one-track mind only see's jooo's (, they were up there because Sunni ARABS are funding other Sunni ARABS (that would be ISIS, Tony Boi) to slaughter as many "infidels" as possible while they can.

Its a short run game plan fueled on hatred as they will never hold what they think they have gained. This isn't the 700's or the 1400's, they are all going to die.

And I won't be shedding a tear for the butchering bastards when they go flying in different directions and neither will anyone else, except you, boi.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:32 | 5143526 Otrader
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Flase flags sometimes contains bodies...U know, for maximum effect.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5143249 blindman
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just the start,
beheading for sharing ...
or thinking.
isis is the creation of the bankers
alter ego, incarnate. it is what they
are and fear, played out on the technological
plane of delusion and false opposition power.
(business as usual)
man's functional
flaw and fate, to be agreeable on the service and surface
while creating the dying and threatening
to death. there is a link that
details this fundamental business of war reality
as it is. sheesh, it is everywhere in the face.
wbai 5 pm 8/25/2014.
described is the iraqi army's unique and historic
refusal to oppose isis. the iraqi soldiers were
concerned with a system of graft income that
could not compete with the offers by isis, or
so is said. it appears to be the antithesis
of nation building or an incident revealing dynamics
of nation destruction.
to see through the im-irage into the darkness
and light, form and shape,
the left and the right.
anyway poems^tm

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:30 | 5143040 Barnaby
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Cap'n Crunch had a more convincing knife than this Ali G fellow.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:27 | 5143292 Ginsengbull
Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:31 | 5143047 Magnum
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It's very suspicious that last time the head choppers appeared, ala Nick Berg in an orange suit, stupid sheep Americans fell over each other to support more war spending in Iraq...  The same thing is happening now.  

The team calling BS on the video is doing a great service.  I never understood how Obama could release a birth cert that consisted of layers, an obvious forgery to anyone who uses Adobe Illustrator.  Where were the professionals then?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:43 | 5143093 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I've wondered from the very beginning, why use a guy with an obvious British accent to do it? I've been to several of those countries in that region a while back, and encountered people from nearly all of themin Bahrain, and the majority of them speak passable, easily understandable English. So what would be the point of using a guy with that accent?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:48 | 5143115 john39
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Because next they re-import the phony muslim terror back into western countries.  War on terror 2.0

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:49 | 5143118 Grande Tetons
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Wanna sell a Chrysler Cordoba? Better get Ricardo Montalban to pitch the add. No sarc.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:44 | 5143562 williambanzai7
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Volare was a vastly superior nauga-product

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:00 | 5143879 mc225
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corinthian leather

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:26 | 5143286 Ginsengbull
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Because there is no gayer sounding accent.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:26 | 5143287 Dead Man Walking
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he may have been the only one in the group that didn't have an langley va. american accent, so he got elected.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:30 | 5143678 palmereldritch
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British actors would be invariably cast to portray Nazi officers in WWII movies popular in the 60s and 70s.

Meet the new mainstream Hollywood boogeyman.

(In reality the accent is probably just a nod to some of his homeboys in The City)

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:55 | 5143837 Sandmann
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Probably because they could act....and not reduce everything to mock Irish accents. Are there any American character actors ?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:32 | 5143052 Grande Tetons
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Ever seen Emily Parker with a chainsaw?  

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:34 | 5143054 alexcojones
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Yeah Right-

There are many discrepancies with that Foley video that were noticed. Here are some of them

1) Professionally produced video (most are on cell phones)
2) The lack of any wind or background noise (like it was on a sound stage)
3) The cheesy ‘Hollywood style’ bad guy
4) The educated terrorist with a distinct British accent
5) The video is in English with Arabic subtitles (normally is is the opposite)
6) The very calm demeanor of the “victim”
7) The very casual atmosphere of the executioner and victim
8) The fade to black once they started (this is the biggest oddity because they ALWAYS feature the most gruesome part – that is the point of it)
9) The most sadistic group in the Middle East makes a beheading video PG-13?
10) The scene of the body (stills are not as convincing as video)
11) The calm demeanor of the “next victim” who supposedly just watched a friend get decapitated
12) The bad guy had no blood on him (beheading is very messy)
13) When the bad guy started “sawing” – absolutely no blood is visible
14) The reaction of the parents is pretty much “ho hum, our son died” (reminds me of Sandy Hook parents)

Beheader of American journalist “Jihadi John” identified

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:02 | 5143178 potato
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Brilliant. You are giving voice to many of the notions we had while viewing. We are always too busy and distracted to condense and think about it.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:27 | 5143289 remain calm
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#15) A Swiss Bank account with 5,000,000 in his name was created the day before and his body can not be found. And oddly, he has a tee time with Obama next year in Hawaii. Weird.


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:24 | 5143671 palmereldritch
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#16) Travel documents discovered indicating he would be sharing a cottage with Ken Lay in El Rey

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:23 | 5143894 Perfecthedge
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remain calm: I love you!

Analysis is spot on.  Some of you here have serious cojones.

I guess, after reading ZH for a while you will never watch the eight o'clock news with the same mindset EVER again.  The thinking skills grow. 


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:15 | 5143470 Freddie
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14) The reaction of the parents is pretty much “ho hum, our son died” (reminds me of Sandy Hook parents)

Where are those Sandy Hoax crisis actors when you need them?  Gene Rosen, Robbie Parker, Veronique Pozner and the weird medical examiner?

This like a bad Disney film.  Or some Tarantino shit.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:32 | 5143520 conscious being
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Plus he got captured in Lybia, in time to encourage humanitarian bombing to free the journo.

Plus his tweets seem to be anti-Assad which you would expect from a US journo-agent.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:36 | 5143071 alexcojones
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The Telegraph used to be a good paper.

Now it's worse than a Tabloid.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:15 | 5143473 Freddie
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Tabloid or Talmud?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:42 | 5143085 blindman
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it doesn't take an expert to state the
linguistically required and obvious.
@"Forensic Expert Says Foley Murder Video "May Have Been Staged""
they could not even get that statement right. every
murder video is necessarily staged, if they were not staged
they would be just plain murders without the video part.
then again, you have video of murders captured and transmitted
by third party observers, but these are not released as
political statements or agipropaganda pieces.
so what did the "experts" contribute? of course, what they
always contribute. no evidence but an opinion. usually,
an opinion they are paid well to espouse. and there ya' go mate.
an analysis that concludes less than the obvious, the video
is equivalent to a cartoon as evidence, yet there is no doubt
that a beheading occurred somewhere close to the production of it,
somehow that cannot be expressed in words or images.
so, obviously, it is time for more debt and war and war
spending. lots of research for war too/feel good yet/? getting

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:44 | 5143095 papaswamp
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...and in other news... Large earthquake took place at 01:26 UTC in Bárðarbungu fissure system. 5.3

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:51 | 5143098 RaceToTheBottom
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It brings up some interesting speculation as to why the killing if they did it off camera, why?   Were they concerned about the law?  Public opinion?  Or did they botch the actual murder so badly that it would have looked bad for them?

Or did they go through mock, fake killings with each as part of the torture of each, perhaps way before they choose to kill them.  He may have tried to escape or got on someones bad list.

In any case, the killing could be at a different time than the rest of the clip and spliced together later....

Opens up the thinking.

Scotland Yard is just being stupid.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:51 | 5143122 john39
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Its all fake.  Full stop.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143161 RaceToTheBottom
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In every good fake, there is a fair share of real.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:00 | 5143168 Seize Mars
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:59 | 5143418 ThankYouSatan
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Also, I love word sentences

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:22 | 5143940 LasVegasDave
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Bingo. There was a glitch during the killing. Maybe Foley got up and ran.  Sometimes shit happens. Like when John 39's folks were trying to have a kid but his dad hit the wrong hole and john39 is the result

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:46 | 5143103 Sophist Economicus
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This was clearly a Bildeberg, psycops, false flag, NSA, CIA, CFR, Rockefeller, Goldman, JPM, elite, TPTB, Jew, Lizard People, Reptilian, Freemason, Woody Allen farce of a production!

Oops, forgot Cheney and Blackwater

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:32 | 5143110 Grande Tetons
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Does Woody fuck one of his adopted kids again? 

Edit. Well, the down votes did not come from Mia Farrow. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:52 | 5143132 CheapBastard
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Really strange is if you play the video hear "Paul is deadl..."


What's even stranger is some 'security expert' on the radio said the Brit who beheaded Foley supposedly was a member in a gang called, [ARE YOU SITTING DOWN?!] "The Beatles."


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:14 | 5143232 Ginsengbull
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I am not convinced he was actually British.


Maybe he just watched a lot of Doctor Who, and picked up the accent.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:55 | 5143143 ramacers
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done deed? where's the body?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:55 | 5143149 reader2010
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I remember I asked the authenticity of the YouTube video the moment the news got circled. My thinking was based on Google's eager willingness to allow it played on YouTube. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143157 tony wilson
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no shit shylock


There is no sin but ignorance.


kit marlowe

from The Jew of Malta.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:49 | 5144035 Apostate2
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I think it's time for you to go. Pack your bags, check your passport and go silently into the night. You have, in your manifesto, said that ignorance is a sin. Your sin is indeed ignorance. Sad but not exceptional. Your posts replete with prejudice are so apochrypha they evince the fetid smell of a game gone bad. Give it up. You have a chance to live without the drag of hatred and despair.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143158 Seize Mars
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"While the expert analysis does not deny that the video ends with the death of Foley"

Yeah bullshit. He's in hiding, like the fucking CIA worm he is.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5143225 Ginsengbull
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Anybody can make a paper-mache mock-up of someone, smear it with ketchup, and take a picture.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:09 | 5143441 tony wilson
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the fucker in the head chop video is not even the guy that is meant to be the sim called foley

2 different guys


James Foley - His Secret Life and the CIA




A Foley artist is the person who creates this sound art. Foley artists use creativity to make viewers believe that the sound effects are actually real. The viewers should not be able to realize that the sound was not actually part of the filming process itself. Foley sounds are added to the film in post production after the film has been shot.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:03 | 5143169 rwe2late
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 Better yet, compare the video of quick death by beheading

with the videos the US REFUSES TO RELEASE

of renditioned captives and prisoners

slowly and cruelly tortured, many surely to death,

and the countless killed, maimed, and wounded by US drones and bombs.


Then review the prisons and treatment of prisoners by US allies

like Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.


Then talk sensibly about the true motives for US "humanitarian military interventions".



Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:10 | 5143215 Ginsengbull
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Dude, they don't "release" such videos...


You have to subscribe and get them by pay-per-view!


Enhanced interrogation can be sooo hawt.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:43 | 5143295 rwe2late
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I'm sending in for a subscription to Torture Secrets

c/o NSA @ (any website). com

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:01 | 5143180 herohedge
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Thanks, guys. Now that this video has been outed as fake, the people in the US are sitting ducks for the impending false flag.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:08 | 5143185 Son of Captain Nemo
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Does this mean Katie Couric will be questioned about what she knows?... 

Will her network bring back Foley's brother and sister for more question(s) on what they know given her interview last week with them?...

And while we're at it... Even though it happened almost 13 years ago without a real investigation, will someone be bold enough to ask Dan Rather why he said what he said when Building 7 collapsed in lower Manhattan that day? Does he question why The Solomon Brothers Building never made it into the "official" Commission Report in 2004? And why his silence has been so deafening given the state of our economy and justice system due to the "war on terror"?...

For inquiring minds!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:22 | 5143498 Freddie
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They can always interview Sandy Hoax actor Gene Rosen.

What about Adam Lanza, his mom and dad?  Apparently, none of them ever existed.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:04 | 5143188 GrinandBearit
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I said it on the very day the video was released.

Not "staged"... it was FAKE.

When people get their throats cut you see blood immediately.  The guy in black was sawing the knife back and forth and no blood came out...  FAKE.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:07 | 5143201 Ginsengbull
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It's as fake as Pamela Andersons tits.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:30 | 5143304 loregnum
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Glad there are others who like me think the video may have been fake. Just seemed odd to me that a video that is supposed to show a beheading magically cuts out when the beheading takes place.

You really can't trust anything you see these days online or on video you didn't shoot or witness yourself..

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:57 | 5143722 ombudsmanrules
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If you're going to be executed in some gruesome way, would you recite some nonsense diatribe on camera, knowing you're going to end up in a global propaganda video?     What's the point?    At least you'd attempt to get away or overpower the guy.   The bad rapper dude looks kinda weedy and armed with a knife?   Surely the journalist has a chance of grabbing it!   At least you'd have a go when the fight or flight response kicks in.    Maybe you'd get shot in the process but you wouldn't end up looking like an idiot.

And sure TPTB say ...  DON'T WATCH IT ...  just in case you have enough knowledge to see there's been a frame edit or chromakey fringing effects or just analyze the file to see the metadata buried inside.    I didn't know it faded to black!  If ISIS are that gruesome, and it appears they really are, why the hell woudn't they show the whole thing?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:31 | 5143310 A Lunatic
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 Keep it off my fucking lawn and I no longer care what (reportedly) happens.......

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:47 | 5143339 Jz kong
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I don't think I saw anyone mention this already, but what about the parents speech:

I saw better acting in my 101 level theater course years back in college

come on, especially the mother, who the hell talks like that after their son gets game of throned???

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:49 | 5143385 blackbeardz
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-reminds me of some of the Sandy Hoax interviews. TPTB don't need everyone to beleive.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:45 | 5143367 Reaper
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Obama lies. The media lies. Governments lie. The pitiful sheeple believe.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:46 | 5143368 blackbeardz
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The folly in that video is for purely ornamental reasons.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:49 | 5143379 john39
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maybe this is part two of that "innocence of muslims" movie that the state deptartment produced to kick off that benghazi cover up thing?  /s

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:49 | 5143383 Fuku Ben
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But other "intelligence experts" say it is genuine

Hmmm, who to believe?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:59 | 5143409 HUGE_Gamma
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you can tell when Foley speaks the wind is calm and when Jihadi John talks the wind picks up

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:04 | 5143434 jacship
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Syrian gaswar retake

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:06 | 5143439 mark mchugh
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To me, the Scotland Yard warning confirms that the clip is essentially a fraud that can't stand up to any level of scrutiny.

Also, know that Foley was captured in 2011 in Libya.  In this clip he talks about the importance of "Front Line Journalism."

Foley's own words tell me that he would want people to see that footage.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:45 | 5143568 Bunga Bunga
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Next: reading Zerohedge a crime.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:32 | 5143683 tony wilson
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Lt. General McInerney Warns 911 2014 DEFCON-1 ISIS MH-370 False Flag Psyop New World Order

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:53 | 5143718 palmereldritch
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09/11/01 to 09/11/2014 = 13 years

This is the kind of nutty numerological alignment these occult sacrifice freaks live for....not good

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:26 | 5144071 lakecity55
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Sounds like TPTB are warming up for a nuke surprise on 9/11/14!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:50 | 5143712 dsty
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doesn't say much for ZH when a bunch of morons are allowed to post such crap

I suppose these photo's are fake too

Islam is a religion of terror
Muhammad beheaded people
they are only following their "PROPHET"

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:16 | 5143806 xavi1951
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Oh my Allah!  You have been reading about Islam and the sociopath Muhammad.  An interesting book is 'Did Muhammad Exist?', by Robert Spencer.  Could Muhammad have been the Christ, twisted by the Muslims to justify their conquests?  Hmmmm!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:54 | 5143836 Sandmann
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Mohammed was not a sociopath - he was a psychopath

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:20 | 5144403 tony wilson
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your gonna have to fight harder schlomo you guys maybe good at the 911 dance shuffle,you may be good at killing children and woman but what you low level hasbara do not understand is your workin for satan.

call it shit but have a comms problem the genie is out of the bottle this foley story is busted the director a yiddisha member be proud you pulled off the lies for so long revel in your times.the msm maybe your whore but she is a bloated cancer full of kosher distemper.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:54 | 5143789 DIgnified
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They're either cocky, and lazy as a result; or we're getting better at spotting this nonsense as a whole.  Either way is problematic.  Desperate people in power are not to be taken lightly.  Panicky, desperate people in power, however, are much worse.  They might do things in desperation that normal assholes wouldn't think of.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:11 | 5143800 xavi1951
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What did I miss while I was having dinner?  Does it really make any difference if the ISIS fucks staged the murder?

They will NOT go away.  They will NOT stop.  They have one (1) agenda, establish the Califate and KILL the infidel.

Other than mnewn, I doubt many ZHer's have any real idea of what ISIS really is.  KILL them ALL !

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:24 | 5144422 tony wilson
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mnewn is a yid.

what does isis say about israel what does israel do about isis.

rupert murdoch and rothschilds own an oil company near the golan syrian land stolen by israel.

you understand a lot but pretend to know msm fuck all you are the dangerous kosher cunt here.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:20 | 5143811 jenniffer
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Didn't they notice the last scene with the beheaded body is not video, it's a picture.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:59 | 5143842 Sandmann
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What a potty thread. We are now in the Martin Bormann, Bin Laden phase of claiming reports of death are exaggerated. Daniel Pearl is dead, and it seems safe to assume Foley is too.....he is valuable only as a propaganda prop. The West is gullible when it comes to visual media - look at MH-370, MH-17, and the Bin Laden, 9-11, Foley situation - it is true/not true depending on how the mass-media presents it. Pathetic.

What you don't know you don't know. It has no bearing on the situation(except for his family) whether Foley died on-camera or off-camera

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:27 | 5144438 tony wilson
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foley is not dead he on a beach beit yannai  israel he been spotted wid his sun glasses on struutin around poor guy cannot be allowed to handle a camera anymore still he got 10 million for his troubles.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 03:31 | 5143865 Hannibal Barca
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This internet thing is what Jews haven't calculate.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:04 | 5143875 smacker
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One does not have to be a forensics expert to spot that the video was faked. I spotted it early on and many others did too.

"...why the manic pursuit to prohibit dissemination and viewing of the video?"

The relatively simple answer:  the British govt and its Praetorian Guard (aka Met Police) also spotted it was fake and threatened people with criminal prosecution for viewing it because they too might spot it and the govt's quickly announced plan to introduce yet more laws to strip jihadists returning home of their passports & citizenship etc would be undermined. At this point, there seems to be virtually no criminal case against Jihad John, yet the video has created a public head of steam "to do something" which the Cameron govt is milking for all it's worth.

Then there's MSM who ratcheted up the ghastliness of the video to keep people in a state of fear, whilst completely ignoring reports that it is fake.

Finally, the British govt (Cameron) has been peddling the need to treat ISIS as a risk to National Security (presumably they're only 45 minutes away from beheading someone) and therefore we have to take some sort of action against them, like bombing them or whatever.

I'm sure there are other explanations but one thing is for sure: once again the British govt, MSM are involved in a conspiracy to lie to people and hide the truth. MH-17 comes to mind.

Prime Minister Cameron's name seems to be a common thread that runs through many of the complete lies and disinformation being spewed out in the run-up to next year's general election.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:26 | 5143995 smacker
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If the claim in the Daily Mail is correct in that Foley was actually killed by ISIS a year ago (quoting Assad's spokesperson who also claims the UN know about it), it obviously means the video was shot at that time.

Given that the English accent soundtrack in the video refers to events much more recently (US bombing IS in Iraq), it must have been added to the video quite recently and therefore it's not the original, if there ever was an original soundtrack.

This means the guy in the video wielding the knife is probably some unknown jihadist who may or may not have been the person responsible for beheading Foley. We already know Foley was not beheaded on film.

It makes the connection to "Jihad John" from London even more tenuous. Meaning the effort being put in by UK spooks to identify him by the veins in his hands is largely a waste of time and money. A giant red herring to feed MSM with ever more sensationalist stories.

This is all becoming yet another farce, perpetrated by govt and broadcast by MSM.

It gets even worse: according to Assad's spokesperson, ISIS are an offshoot of the Free Syrian Army. They are the jihadists bought and paid for, trained and armed by the Obama, CIA with help from their friends in British MI6.

So are the real culprits the CIA & MI6? Under their own terror laws, yes.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:55 | 5144044 lakecity55
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The UN has the documentation that Foley was killed a year ago.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:36 | 5143951 sidiji
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Stinks of another false flag...oh I'm sure that poor sod is dead...but I'll bet you it was the Israelis behind this scheme to re-re-enrage america...smack smack...wake up Obama you noob, everyone is playing you for a fool.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:07 | 5143972 svkhost
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Anybody with half a brain cell, who watched this video, must realize it is fake. If the guy knew that his head is going to cut off, he would be crying a pissing his pants and not giving speeches to the government and family without even one shake in his voice. Terrible acting.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:27 | 5143994 indio007
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Bizarro  world sibling interview (even Katie Couric is about to bust out laughing)

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:16 | 5144042 22winmag
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Speaking of staged events, did anyone see that super creepy NSA produced video that was distributed after TWA800?


It's like... trust us, 747s spontaneously explode, and it was "not a bomb".

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