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Spotting The Next Detroit - America's Fasting-Shrinking Cities

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Whether Detroit's slumping population was cause or effect (or both) in its demise remains up for discussion; either way, in the ever-more-entitled and ever-less-working world in which we live, a declining population in the face of increasingly promised benefits has only two ends - death (bankruptcy) or taxes. In spite of almost record-low Muni market yields (and spreads), risks remain - just ask the HY market... and these 25 cities have the highest rate of population decline in America.



Bloomberg ranked U.S. cities based on the percentage change in population from 2012 to 2013 and identified the 25 that were shrinking the most.

Only cities with at least 50,000 residents as of 2013 were included. Population estimates were as of July 1 each year. Data were rounded.

Source: Bloomberg


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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:53 | 5142678 Stuck on Zero
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Things will get much better for everyone else when Washington DC is listed as the fastest shrinking city.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:59 | 5142708 Pladizow
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Hence no border control!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:05 | 5142728 p00k1e
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That’s an astute observation.  The population may even be negative if the poor free-loaders weren’t here to be counted.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:06 | 5142733 knukles
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Another astute obeservation..... don't buy the munis of any of those cities.
Somebody will sell them to you, kids

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:18 | 5142764 p00k1e
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Michigan’s white population has been in decline. 81.2%

At some percentage soon a tipping point will be reached triggering so-called ‘white flight’ from that state. 

Pop info –

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:42 | 5142864 max2205
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I guess a decline in population by murders saved Chicago and Baltimore from making the list.

Fuck lists!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143164 argoz
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In Baltimore there are about 200,000 black males, 200 of which die by murder each year.  So the chances of a black male being murdred are about 0.1% per year.  Not much, but when adjusted for an average male life span of 70 years, the rate is 7%.  

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:54 | 5143397 Almost Solvent
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Surely a city in NY must be on that list. 


NY cities lost their population in the 80s, and stop calling me Shirley!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:13 | 5143803 jez
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Manhattan is there, but it seems to have moved to KS.

In other news, it took me four days to hitch-hike from Saginaw.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:59 | 5144116 jcaz
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....And when adjusted for being involved in an average liquor store hold up,  the rate is 90%......

Not feeling your stat,  but if your point is that you feel the % is high,  then perhaps you might suggest to your brothers to not be involved in such activities that expose themselves to such a high rate of murder....

Or not.   I prefer problems that solve themselves.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 21:26 | 5147428 mkkby
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Fuck these stupid lists.  A few of the "cities" lost 300-500 residents.  Is that exciting news?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143172 argoz
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In Baltimore there are about 200,000 black males, 200 of which die by murder each year.  So the chances of a black male being murdred are about 0.1% per year.  Not much, but when adjusted for an average male life span of 70 years, the rate is 7%.  

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:47 | 5142880 Theta_Burn
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 Camden NJ's flight of residents, lol, those that could left yrs ago, that drop was due to violent attrition...

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 08:17 | 5144170 Big Corked Boots
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My thoughts exactly. The only exit from Camden is cold and horizontal.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:04 | 5142949 Loucleve
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Never from the UP.  Cold up there.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 13:03 | 5145543 KnuckleDragger-X
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Yoopers are some of my favorite people though they do get a tad wierd in the winter. ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:17 | 5142993 Slave
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Already happening.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:20 | 5144068 de3de8
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Manhattan Kansas? That was first mistake.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:08 | 5142738 killallthefiat
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Jacksonville, NC is a shit hole.  They can bring in more marines, but twice as many locals leave.  We do not want the marines here in Wilmington on the weekends either.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:18 | 5142763 LasVegasDave
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Restrictive covenants are the answer. But that is now considered unconstitutional.  Strange how the govt. Can force you to associate with, rent to, sell to or hire somebody solely based on the color of their skin, their fairy tale god in heaven or now, if they are dykes or homos


The center cannot hold much longer

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:30 | 5142813 knukles
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LVDave...  The Center was gone through a long time ago.  People simply fail to notice as the progression is not cataclysmic in any one given day, week, month or year. 
The center no longer exists

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:53 | 5142899 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Now that is astute !!!    +1

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:20 | 5142769 johngaltfla
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Quite a few of the cities listed are in decline because of the "peace dividend" allegedly created by electing the Black Jesus as President and closing of numerous bases and reductions in personnel. Of coruse Detroit and some of the Rust Belt liberal toilets are declining because the bankrupt cities are driving people out to anywhere that  a better life might be found.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:30 | 5143042 duo
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Lots of the older suburbs of Detroit are emptying out.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:56 | 5143404 Almost Solvent
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Moving to FL with free pill clinics. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:51 | 5143585 BlindMonkey
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Red ones I hope. It is getting lonely around here.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:55 | 5142911 Herodotus
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Detroit has lost an average of 189,000 per decade for the last 6 decades.  If this trend continues, the population of Detroit in the year 2050 will be 0.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:01 | 5142716 astroloungers
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Yuma and Carson City were a surprise to me.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:21 | 5142775 Bollixed
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Doesn't mean the BLS, err a I mean the census numbers are correct. The same phenom could happen if people simply conspire to not be counted. It's easier to fall off the rolls than most people think...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:54 | 5142902 conscious being
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Lack of rainfall? Drought?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5143247 mvsjcl
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Yuma? What, are they closing the territorial prison? Seriously, I had some good times there, but the heat takes some getting used to.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:01 | 5142718 Jendrzejczyk
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DC is where your money is. I'm not leaving until you quit sending it here.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:37 | 5142842 Vendetta
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K Street in DC needs the most depopulation

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:54 | 5143591 BlindMonkey
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Leave that to ISIS.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:44 | 5143363 tempo
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What difference does it make if the cities that are growing have populations that are unemployed, uneducated, live on EBT cards, have 75%+ of babies born out of wedlock, controlled by gangs?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:53 | 5142679 colddirt
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I can't believe Rockford, Il is not on there.... what a pit..........


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:35 | 5143315 lasvegaspersona
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Rockford is NOT a hell hole. There are bad parts (kinda like Vegas) but lots of good folks and far enough from Chicago to retain it's provincial feel. If you must visit I sugget Allegiant airline into Rockford then drive to the Weatern burbs of Chicago. Time saved at the airport will make up for the drive time into the real hell hole of (By thy rivers gently flowing Illinois,) Illinois.

Cheap Trick is a famous product but before industry followed the dictates of world reserve currency status it had lots of light industry, tool makers, and going back funiture makers.

Also one of the best park districts anywhere.

It got me started on a life of outdoor adventure.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:55 | 5143406 ImReady
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+1 for the Cheap Trick reference. One of the greatest live bands ever! 

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:02 | 5143715 christiangustafson
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Yeah, I immediately looked for Rockford, too.

It showed up on a list of most dangerous U.S. neighborhoods recently.

Archaeologist James Henry Breasted was from Rockford.

Climber Ed Viesturs is from Rockford.

Oh and here is a most excellent map of the ethnic makeup of Chicago, Illinois, over the long haul.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:54 | 5142682 armageddon addahere
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Where are they going? In other words where are the growing cities?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:56 | 5142690 NoDebt
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Don't know but I bet there's a lot of gated communities there.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:56 | 5143599 BlindMonkey
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Do you consider FEMA camps to be gates neighborhoods? Generally I think of a gated neighborhoods as keeping folks out but I am always ready to cope with a paradigm shift.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 08:59 | 5144313 TuPhat
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Houston is moving welfare families out to the surrounding small towns.  We have got a lot of them over the last decade due to the rent being cheaper.  Of course border crossers living several families to an apt. take up the slack in Houston.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:56 | 5142692 stant
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:48 | 5142884 Falconsixone
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Wait until they splash half the gulf of mexico up the mississippi delta. Oh! You've got a boat so your good to go threw 2000ft

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5142710 yrad
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Texas, for good reason.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:41 | 5143086 Magnix
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Texas: Oil, no state taxes, plenty of decent jobs, hot ladies, living expense are affordable in most areas, lots of place to dine out, young kids, tanks, Army, Air Force, much more!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:55 | 5142689 Dre4dwolf
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Its like a list of cities to go buy real-estate in, in 5 years after its done self-destructing.

Its a good idea to buy land in a city after its liberalism destroys itself, because thats usually around when common sense kicks in and they convert to a more libertarian style society out of the sheer need to actually have citizens who give a shit about their own future.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5142712 Boomberg
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Odd that none of the cities are in those liberal, commie bastions of California and New York, while the top 5 are shithole red state towns along with almost all the rest of them. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:16 | 5142758 Turk February
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Red states, black cities. Hence, white flight and the inevitable downward spiral.

Jackson, Mississippi, recently elected a black supremacist mayor who goes by "Chokwe Lumumba" and who declared the city the capital of something called "The Republic of New Afrika."

Sounds like a great place to raise a family!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:30 | 5142771 Gromit
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The city listed above is Jackson Massachusetts - not Jackson Mississippi, whose local economy has benefited from gaining auto manufactruing drom the midwest.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:32 | 5143051 MalteseFalcon
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There is no Jackson MA.  It's Jackson MS alright.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 15:21 | 5146172 MalteseFalcon
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I repeat.  There is no Jackson MA.  It's about Jackson MS which is a shithole within a shithole.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:27 | 5143280 Gromit
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Will you at least check the graph above (where you will see MSt intended for Massachusetts)?



Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:53 | 5143396 Turk February
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1) MSt is not an abbreviation for Massachusetts.
2) Click the link and read the bloomberg article; it clearly says Jackson, MS with a population of 172,000

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:37 | 5143541 Gromit
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Thanks - very interesting.

I don't understand why they put Jacksom MSt on the graph.

Yes Jackson itself is losing some folks - but the Jacksom MS Metropolitan Statistical Area increased from 539,057 in 2010 to 576,800 in 2012.

And yes, most of the growth is in the suburbs.,_Mississippi_metropolitan_area

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:00 | 5143610 falconflight
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Get off the Interstates in the deep south, and travel through the "black belt" and if you're white, black people will stare at you like you're from Mars.  Like Tusgeegee, Alabama, a black college town.  Very strange vibes, as folks on the town green just would stare at me and mine driving the ole Volvo.  

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 13:11 | 5145571 KnuckleDragger-X
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A Volvo? They mistook you for a liberal on safari.....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:22 | 5142774 wee-weed up
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Odd that none of the cities are in those liberal, commie bastions of California and New York
All the undocumented liberals are flowing into CA & NY. More free shit.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:33 | 5143057 MalteseFalcon
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In the very blue states of New England, old mill cities that should have disappeared right after WWII continue to exist with goverment subsidies of all kinds.  These cities should be gone and plowed under.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:30 | 5142799 PrecipiceWatching
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Red states are "shitholes" ONLY in the limited geographical pockets of urban-Zulu and college Campus-Communist infestation.


The vast majority of those largely Conservative states are HANDS DOWN, among the very best places to live on the planet.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5142715 kaiserhoff
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Sounds great,

  but where, exactly, has this happened?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:31 | 5143044 snr-moment
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RIGHT?!?!?!?!!!  By the time THAT happens, we'll have title by conquest all over again.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:10 | 5143213 Wahooo
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Sounds like something out of the prospectus for a tech startup. Check your reality and your wallet.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:51 | 5143125 hootowl
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Large urban plantations are anachronisms and are no longer the results of needful close associations.  Current Internet and satellite communications will reduce the need for personal business travel and face to face meetings.

Small, more moderate size living arrangements will be the wave of the future.

The remains of the urban plantations will be the domain of feral dogs and barbarous baboonic predators.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:57 | 5142696 tnquake
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To the last one leaving MI, please turn off the lights!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:05 | 5142823 Gromit
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You're off topic - there is no Mississippi city on the above list.

The Jackson listing above is Jackson Massachusetts.

Please be aware that Mississippi population is slowly rising - up 0.6% 2010-2013 - and gaining manufacturing from the Northeast and Midwest.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:23 | 5143015 MrButtoMcFarty
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OK Kids....Let's Review!

MA = Massachusetts

MI = Michigan

MS = Mississippi

MO = Missouri

MN = Minnesota

MJ = What I'm smoking right now

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:36 | 5143066 MalteseFalcon
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Dude, you flunked the geography bee.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:54 | 5143141 Gromit
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If you read the graph carefully you will see that is shows Jackson MSt.

Fooled me for a while too, then I realized it couldn't be Jackson Mississipi becasue I am familiar wiht the local economy and know that population is actually rising in Mississippi acording to US Census data.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:10 | 5143445 rwe2late
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There is NO city "Jackson, MA"

NO ZIP code


If you dispute what the article states about Jackson MS,

then provide your info.

But please give up about the fictitious "Jackson MA"

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:31 | 5143303 Sedaeng
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Ummm, MI is for Michigan.  MS is for Mississppi.

state abbreviations

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:59 | 5142702 Jendrzejczyk
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"Valdosta has a total population of 54,518"

The two Mormon families moved out of town.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:51 | 5142890 CloseToTheEdge
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Valdosta Motto:  "A City Without Limits"


“[He] had to submit to the fate of every newcomer in a small town, where many tongues talk but few heads think.” Les Miserables

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5142709 toady
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Nothing new there. The Detroit population has been shrinking since the 50s, and really picked up with the white flight after the riots. Coleman Young and the African-American caliphate in the 70s sealed the deal.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:44 | 5143096 hootowl
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"Free Trade" and all of its attendant evils, is what has destroyed America.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:02 | 5142720 p00k1e
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Sinkholes are opening all over the planet.  Ideally, Jesus will see to the Earth gulping down The D. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:04 | 5142724 Miffed Microbio...
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If this drought continues there may be a few from Cali on this list. Right now watching the " water will always drop from the heavens" mentality all around me is depressing. People are not only becoming less intelligent but more disconnected from reality.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:31 | 5142816 Anusocracy
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Have they tried rain dances yet?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:03 | 5142725 suteibu
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Urbanization continues apace.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:21 | 5142772 kaiserhoff
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Ebola cures cities.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 13:19 | 5145619 KnuckleDragger-X
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Ebola is not likely but there are several old school disease's that'll do the job. I expect a Spanish flu type outbreak at any time and the black plague has a chance in the cities that have gone tribal.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:43 | 5143088 hootowl
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The Ebonic Plague is destroying all of these cities.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:09 | 5142741 explosivo
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Manhattan, KS? That's a college town. Does this mean enrollments are dropping?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:18 | 5142767 PrecipiceWatching
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One can only hope.

The thieving BigEducation criminal enterprise and its Communist enablers and participants needs to go down HARD.




Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:19 | 5142768 Lostinfortwalton
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:10 | 5142742 Herdee
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America's run-down ghetto-ized Cities.Reminds me of the same crap in the MiddleEast.Some places you just never drive into bro' might get yourself and the family shot,raped and robbed in no particular order.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:12 | 5142752 Magnum
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But the government employees who setup themselves with posh retirement packages, they know no bounds and have no morals at all when it comes to shaking down the remaining residents for tax money to ensure the pension money keeps coming in.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:26 | 5142801 p00k1e
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Goodfellas: Fuck You, Pay Me

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142791 Lostinfortwalton
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What happened in Valdosta? Had a friend in the USAF there years ago and visited he and his family a couple of times. No big negatives as far as I could see.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:56 | 5142909 Cthonic
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Couple of towns on that list are heavy into MIC.  Moody AFB nearby, may be downsizing post-Iraq.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:14 | 5143228 geotrader
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Moody AFB is actually outside of Valdosta.  Also the University there has 12,500 students that many are not being counted in this population survey.  A loss of 1100 people just isn't a lot even though the % makes it on the list.  

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:30 | 5142812 Thirtyseven
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What are the demographics of these cities?  Correct me if I'm wrong but more than half of these towns (2/3rds?) are majority black.  Lawton, OK and Jacksonville, NC are "base towns" and likely have to do with base realignments.  If even a batallion moves and they take their wives and kids with them you're potentially talking a huge chunk of the population (and the government money that props these towns up).

Not sure what's wrong with Manhattan Kansas, in 2011 it was ranked by Forbes at the best small town to start a business or career.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:15 | 5143420 Almost Solvent
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Karma creeps up if you name yourself after the most statist town in 'merica

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:31 | 5142820 Laddie
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Detroit was one of the most vibrant, beautiful cities in the world 55 yrs ago. It was pretty much a White city. Look on it now.
The USSA, unless there is revolutionary change this is your future.

THE COMING DARKNESS: A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:37 | 5142839 PrecipiceWatching
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The Dutch and British built a First World, near paradise in South Africa.

How long before the uncivilized, amoral, thieving baboons utterly destroy it?

I got 50 years.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:33 | 5143056 duo
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When they start re-distributing the farmland, you've got less than 5 years left.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:01 | 5144052 SmallerGovNow2
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:32 | 5142826 Berspankme
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Which lucky city will receive our black jesus dear leader when he leaves DC ?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:36 | 5142837 Gromit
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He's going to do voiceovers on nature shows - inheriting the James Earl Jones gigs.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:24 | 5143019 snr-moment
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Uh...Luke,, let me be clear.  If I had a son...uh, it'd be you.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:44 | 5142866 Vendetta
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he'll probably go to hawaii, somewhere near an exclusive golf course,  he'll visit the 'mainland' to collect his payola, er, speech money at $200k a pop

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:52 | 5142889 kaiserhoff
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Barry won't have much of a retirement.  He's aging in dog years...,

  and what is he retiring from, except golfing and begging for money?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:37 | 5143076 hootowl
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.....Maybe AIDS is aging him so fast.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:46 | 5143101 sylviasays
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Obozo and the drag queen he married were rumoured to buy a mansion near Palm Springs


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:03 | 5142937 MATA HAIRY
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the elite and the corporations are busily working to make sure as many immigrants --legal and illegal-- are crammed into the USA so that all these cities will expand and not shrink

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:13 | 5142976 adr
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A lot of those cities have seen population explosions over the past 30 years, just that most of the population moved elsewhere. If you take a look at the racial makeup of the surrounding areas you will find the percentage of blacks in those towns went from the low teens to a huge majority. So while the population of Detroit declined, the people there left for other cities offering EBT benefits.

Once the ghetto finishes off a city, nobody moves back.

I want to post a map of northeast Ohio based on the racial makeup of towns in 1965 and now. The finished product would show an outward arc of around 20 miles from Downtown Cleveland that went from majority white to majority black. It is possible to draw a line from downtown Cleveland to Akron and only pass through one town with a majority white population. 

I think the goal is to be able to go from Youngstown west to Lorain and Cleveland south to Canton without being able to see anyone other than Hispanics and blacks. We're almost there.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:34 | 5143062 duo
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It's called "Section 8 Checkers".  When you live 60 miles from your job, you've reached the opposite side of the board and can start jumping back.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:38 | 5143077 snr-moment
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You get what they force you to pay for.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:06 | 5143196 Wahooo
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You boil this plight down to race demographics when in fact the issue is wealth and income. The question to ask isn't why are there so few white people and so many blacks, but rather where did all the money go? I want to see that map. BTW, IMHO the next wealth boom in this country will be among Latinos.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:09 | 5143206 Aremo
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So its literally a black plague that moves through the city causing devastation and the city never bounces back.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 04:52 | 5143911 Kobe Beef
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Yes, Ebonic Plague. 

To paraphrase Niezsche: "America is dead. It died of its pity for negroes."

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:18 | 5143001 MollyHacker
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My view is the world is in a cooling-down mode since 2001 9/11. The first phase was a psychological effect from the attacts, aside from the real damage the attacks had. People spend less and 'attempt' to save more which results in a economic cooling of global trades effecting financial elements which promotes hostilities. The mean effect from less monitary velocity within urban developments is less infrastructure support and exasperates the community's ability to deal with the overall governance.

'The last word probibly killed any chance for the up votes /sarc'

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:20 | 5143008 MrButtoMcFarty
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The beaches on west side of Michigan are nice for a couple months a year....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:20 | 5143009 snr-moment
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Whoa.  Judging from the states involved, the FSA is on the march.  Point of no return?  10 years ago at least.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:25 | 5143024 q99x2
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I'm headed out in a few years to trace my anscestors migration path. Reached a dead end here.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:59 | 5143162 reader2010
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Like Jim Rogers, everyone has moved his money and ass to Asia. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:04 | 5143187 homebody
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Why Pocatello ID? Anyone know?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:33 | 5143684 zyby
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Folks aren't eating as many potatoes as they used to.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:08 | 5143202 potato
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Those are not cities.

Those are hick towns and villages.

Look at Europe. A real city has at least a million inhabitants.  

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:56 | 5143408 bilejones
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In England a city has a Cathedral.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:39 | 5143538 Village-idiot
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:37 | 5143539 Village-idiot
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OR a university.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:38 | 5143338 brown_hornet
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Best BBQ restaurant anywhere in Valdosta, Ga. The Smokin' Pig. Very reasonably priced with great service.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:08 | 5143449 batterycharged
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I hate when fucking morons talk about Detroit that have no clue what they're talking about.

Detroit shrunk because of race riots and SPRAWL, not liberalism.

The Detroit Metro AREA has not shrunk just the city per se.

People all moved out to the burbs to shop at big malls and live in sterile subdivisions. And to avoid the blackman.

Anyone that makes a connection to democrats or liberals or welfare are FUCKING DUMBASSES.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:12 | 5143465 batterycharged
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Metro Detroit population - not quite shrinking. I guess WELFARE is a good thing *rolls eyes*.  Now go back to your Alabama's and Mississippi's, the red states you embrace and tell me about welfare.


1950 3,016,197 — 1960 3,762,360 24.7% 1970 4,307,470 14.5% 1980 4,353,365 1.1% 1990 4,382,299 0.7% 2000 4,452,557 1.6%
Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:45 | 5143567 falconflight
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However Detroit is no longer the jobs magnet.  The downtown/commerical hub has likely moved to satelite towns, like in other cities.  How many counties are included in the Metro area...the MSA?  Democratic rule has utterly destroyed the City.  Its main partner HUD and all the affiliated urban planners used Detroit for their grand experiment of urban renewal.  Hundreds of billiions poured into every facet of the city's life attempting to turn its downturn into a shinying success of public public and some private partnerships to renew the city.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:30 | 5143680 JoJoJo
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Metro Detroit 4,296,000 2010 census

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:20 | 5143663 JoJoJo
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Liberalism promotes race riots and thus people want to sprawl as far away as they can from the inner city

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:38 | 5143547 Spungo
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We should raise taxes to encourage the rich to come back.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:44 | 5143563 3rd Pig
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By the year 2050 Detroit will become an elitist paradise. Geographically it is the centre of American manufacturing post peak oil, as it was before in the pre-oil economy. Look at the waterway system around the city.

Detroit is the poster child of the future. The 1% knows this, which is why they are kicking the shit out of it.  It may quite possibly be the new Washington as Constantinople was to Rome at the end of the Roman Empire.

Belle isle maybe the site of Rothschild castle for the next 1000 years, they could even go Scottish with a loch ness monster and everything, even wearing tartan and playing bagpipes on their man lips while wearing skirts and dancing highland style..!

Och eye the knoo... laddie eat my fuckin furry haggis Jock Obummer!


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:24 | 5143673 Freddie
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I am not kidding but Detroit may be turned over to China.  The Repub (RINO) MI governor is all for the idea to let Chinese flood in to transform Detroit.  I thought it was a joke when I read it on the web.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:04 | 5143623 knowshitsurelock
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Just move to DC.  Minimum wage for a government job is 120K a year to sit around and do nothing but fuck with people who are doing things.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:31 | 5143682 zyby
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Global warming will reverse the trend of folks moving to the south and west from the rust-belt. So buy property in those northeast holes now in advance of the rush.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:11 | 5143925 Mitch Comestein
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This is the problem with a chart that shows only one year.  Manhattan, KS is a booming college town.  It has per decade population growth in the double digits; around 16.6% is the lowest per-decade growth since its founding.  (Look it up on Wiki).  You blow your whole arguement with me when it shows up on your list.  I live close to there.  I wish I lived in Manhattan as it is fun to visit.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 05:09 | 5143926 Jano
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But that population does not die off.

That population must opup somewhere, Where?

Plus another 2 million annual hispanic immigration from the South. Which cities grow?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:27 | 5144073 Raoul_Luke
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But, but, but...these cities are progressive paradises, operated for decades along Keynesian priciples.  How could they have possibly lost population?  Call Krugman, he has some 'splaining to do...

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:49 | 5144102 FreeNewEnergy
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This list is crap. Real population decline takes years, decades. The Northeast has been slowly, but surely, losing people for the past 30-40 years.

Thankfully, the articles on ZH these days are short and useless, but the comments are still well above par (compared to Yahoo or other lib shithole sites).

I'm in upstate NY. Message to potential looters and rioters in Rochester: Fuck you, stay in the ghetto. You come out to the suburbs and you'll get shot.

Message to suburban whites in Rochester: Get a gun and plenty of ammo. And stop passing ridiculous school budgets and paying premium taxes, dumbasses. There's a couple of disturbing trends going on in my community, a suburb of Rochester, NY. One, lots and lots of vacant houses in the burbs. Mostly bank-owned and fairly maintained, the banks are paying the property taxes and keeping up appearances, thinking somehow, this market is going to rebound. As usual, the banksters are WRONG. Two, single family homes being turned into rentals and being rented out by minorities with kids, who move from the city (graduation rate, 42%, lowest in the state, I kid you not) to the 'burbs, where graduation rates are in the high 90's%. Meanwhile, stupid white people continue to pass exorbitant school budgets to teach black kids of rental parents. The kids leave when they graduate, houses go empty or add more renters.

Bad situation, surely to get worse. I am thinking of getting out within five years. More black and brown people around here than ever before. When I was growing up here (60s-70s), you could not find a black person. Not saying that all blacks are bad, but the trend is in place and they are ruinous to neighborhoods on a general basis. Good thing we have whoop-de-doo white cops, keeping them in check wit all their military gear and stuff.

Place I grew up in is turning into a third world shit-hole, except with high property taxes. UN-SUS-TAIN-ABLE, but don't tell our elected people. They just want MOAR!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 08:11 | 5144153 optioneer
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With the high correlation between these "dramatic population delines" and factors such as universities, military bases etc, Bloomberg should give themselves a pat on the back for having a completely useless chart they can pull out EVERY YEAR and the number will probably be about the same, every time. 

It's a sad world where even Bloomberg and the WSJ strain credulity anymore.

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