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London Mayor's Stunning Proposal: "Terrorist Until Proven Innocent"
With all of England on edge because the ISIS executioner of James Foley, known as "Jihadi John" sported a British accent, and who may or may not have been identified as Abdel-Majed Bary, although UK government sources have not yet officially revealed his identity, one person has decided it is time to not waste yet another crisis. The person: London mayor Boris Johnson who as the Guardian reports, has called for the presumption of innocence to be reversed in cases where Britons travel to Iraq or Syria and said he wants the jihadist who beheaded an American journalist to be killed in a bomb attack. If Johnson's proposal for a "swift and minor" law change passes, any Brit traveling to Iraq or Syria will automatically be branded a terrorist and suffer the appropriate consequences.
More on this stunning attempt to overhaul the most basic right of law:
The Mayor of London, who has overall responsibility for the Metropolitan Police, said legislation should be introduced so that anyone visiting those countries would be automatically presumed to be terrorists unless they had notified the authorities in advance, and joined growing calls for Britons fighting abroad to be stripped of their citizenship.
Johnson said Britain must take on the Islamic State (Isis) and “try to close it down now”, warning that doing nothing would mean a “tide of terror will eventually lap at our own front door”.
Writing in his Daily Telegraph column, Johnson said most Britons wanted “someone to come along with a bunker buster” and kill the man, reported to be British, “as fast as possible”.
Johnson had no comment on whether ISIS would have ever arisen as a credible, terrorist force had the grand "liberating" western alliance not come along with a bunker buster (or few thousand) against the Assad regime 2 years ago, and in the process funded the very Syrian "rebels" who subsequently morphed into the bloodthirsty sect which is too extreme even for al-Qaeda.
Johnson said those who “continue to give allegiance to a terrorist state” should lose their British citizenship and called for a “swift and minor change” to the law so there was a “rebuttable presumption” that those visiting war areas without notifying the authorities had done so for a terrorist purpose.
“We need to make it crystal clear that you will be arrested if you go out to Syria or Iraq without a good reason,” he wrote. “At present the police are finding it very difficult to stop people from simply flying out via Germany, crossing the border, doing their ghastly jihadi tourism, and coming back.”
The mayor said that while Britain’s recent military interventions had left the nation reluctant to wade into overseas conflicts, “doing nothing is surely the worst of all” and warned that the Isis “wackos” must be tackled.
“What is the point of having a defence budget, if we don’t at least try to prevent the establishment of a terrorist ‘caliphate’ that is profoundly hostile to civilised values?” he wrote.
Of course, all of the above is beyond ironic, because let's flash back to that Reuters report from July 2013, in which we read that 'Britain has granted billions of pounds worth of military export licences for countries such as Syria, Iran and Libya despite proclaiming deep concerns about their human rights records, the British parliament said on Wednesday. In a critical report, parliament's Committees on Arms Export Controls said Britain had approved licences for weapons exports to 27 countries worth 12.3 billion pounds highlighting the "inherent conflict" between its arms exports policy and its human rights policy."
"The government should apply significantly more cautious judgements when considering arms export licence applications for goods to authoritarian regimes 'in contravention of the government's stated policy'," said John Stanley, the chairman of the committees.
[The report] said such exports might contravene the government's own policy not to supply goods to countries on its list of human rights concerns where any items exported "might be used to facilitate internal repression".
The report gave details of 3,074 licences for the export of "strategic controlled goods", which can have dual military and civilian use. The products covered by the licences ranged from communications equipment to body armour and sniper rifles.
One can only assume that UK arms exporters will be exempt from this "swift and minor" law change. After all, how else can the UK create the very "humanitarian" crises it then seeks to abuse by crushing basic civil liberites.
And a follow up question: if and when the UK is successful in passing a law that brands one a terrorist simply for flying to a designated country, how long before other "humanitarian, democratic" stalwarts such as the US do the same? And how long before the list of deisgnated countries expands from just Syria and Iraq and encompasses any nations that dare to opine against a world in which the existing western superpower status is rapidly eroding.
We fear we will know the answer soon enough.
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CIA, SIS, Mossad, Azov Battalion in Ukraine,
all are Muslim-only organizations?
Gladio? Phoenix Program? Irish Rebellion? NAZI SS - all Muslims?
WW2 firebombings and A-bombings, all by Muslims?
The slave trade, genocide of American natives - entirely by Muslims?
Ben-Gurion was a Muslim?
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." — David Ben-Gurion
MAX, you are hardly a cynic, ... instead only a bigoted ignoramus.
ISIS execution video may have been faked. NO SHIT SHYLOCK, errr Sherlock.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murde...
Thank you Boris, but you really didn't need to tell us as "secret chimp" in Washington' has already been broadcasting it loud and clear for the past 6 years with the silent ceremony on December 31, 2011...
You brutally ugly motherfucker "outside" (first and foremost) as well as "inisde"
I russia are sanctioned for involvment in Ukraine (without har evidence, exept the fact of Krimera) and US feel free to bomb in Iraq and Syria, and it´s ok for UK to send in swat´s into Iraq to hunt one man down....??? Killing how many on their way..??
why sanctions and why hunt russian aid convoy..... are there different ruels for east and west?
The free press is a disaster... like trying to get in contact with FB...just Algos....
Hey UK, what will air travel be like around the holidays?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2733974/Horrifying-moment-medic-...
Boris trumps Trump by a kilometer. Is there a more quintessentially ego-centric, self-aggrandizing, blustering, snowballing, megalomaniacal, vulgar buffoon in politics? What? There are? Say again? A "lorryload"? ..... Shite.
Hadn't Tony Blair gone to Iraq? Just asking...
drone him!
Crazy times call for crazy people with crazy ideas.
By now most people who have internet access have searched 'Foley hoax'
London's mayor is a windbag. Surprise!
London's Johnson Calls To Recall His Seed
I'd like to propose my own idea for those of a certain tribe: Bolshevik, until proven otherwise.
Boris,
How are all those CCTV surveillance camera's working out for you? Appears the only ones working are for generating traffic infractions to boost revenue. The people of London will be handing your ass too you.
How about a "crook until proven innocent" test for bankers.
I think it is sad that the Brits are more upset about an American getting beheaded than the Americans. Apathy is destroying the human race.
Happens when u cry wolf 1m times!
Don't forget UK general elections next May - Boris doing his bit to pander to the right wing but making an ass of himself in the process regarding the law. Also causing a headline to distract the sheep from the Scotland debate tonight.
Remember, more people in UK Parliament allowing military contracts /SAS than than 400 - 500 fighters in Middle East. Who is doing the most damage?
Underneath his jovial buffoon behaviour he has some ambitous / troubling ideas.
Napoleonic code. "Although in principal the French system presumes innocence, it allows people under investigation to be held for lengthy periods before a charge is ever filed. Also, the investigator and the magistrate are the same person. So it is the investigator who is deciding to hold the person i.e. there is no bail hearing before a judge like in English common law. There is also no right to silence. You can refuse to answer but the court is allowed to draw adverse conclusions from refusing to answer. In the US, exercising the right to silence can not be used against the accused."
Do we really think the US still assumes innocence?
I guess the 'boy wonder' forgot the GOVERNMENT of the U.K. was front & center on agitating & distabilizing most of the middle east in the first place? These elite visionary politicians get stoooopider & stooopider by the day!
What this shows me is that terrorists have truly won the war on terror. Their stated goal has always been to destroy our way of life, and they have done just that. When the presumption of guilt trumps the presumption of innocence, the Western legal system is toast. Obama.....uh, I mean Osama must be happily smiling in his grave.
Citizens privacy, liberty & freedoms were disappearing long before any 'so-called' terrorists showed up on the scene!
Perhaps. But that slope seems to have become much steeper and slippery since we started the "war" on terror.
Smashing, I say, olde chap, smashing!
Oh wait, what about British troops deployed for any reason to Iraq or another "terrorist haven" ?
Balderdash! Chin up, olde boy, your government does not make mistakes!
Tallyho and balleyhoo!
What happened to any Brit who went to Nazi Germany during the war?
Err, what's so hard about notifying them advance you are travelling to one of these countries? Looks reasonable to me.
"....stunning attempt to overhaul the most basic right of law...."
HORSESHIT!
This is where neo-cons and half-assed, half-wit conservatives get it so wrong: it is NOT a "right of LAW"...it is an UNALIENABLE right, one that can never be broken, taken or even given up by the posessor. It is a right because you are a created human. All attempts to control this right by laws are corrupt and automatically void. Sadly one must fight governments of psycopaths that steal our wealth and rights with their perverted laws.
How can you still see yourself as a Brithish Empire when you can drive across your whole "empire" without refill... even in a SUV... and London has more servere problems than terrorist.... com on Boris be realistic
One reason why BoJo wants to change the law to presume guilt is that "Jihad John" aka L Jinny, did not behead the American journo in that video. That has become quite clear to anyone who studies the video. That being so, IF he returns to the UK it's difficult to see what he could be charged with. There is precious little evidence that he's been involved in jihad in Syria or Iraq. In any case WTF has that got to do with the British govt.
When English young men went to fight Franco in the Spanish Civil War they were treated as heroes back home. There's a memorial to those who died, by the river in Putney.
The second reason for BoJo's proposal is that he's a corporatist fascist, not a real Conservative by a long shot.
When did Gary Busey become the mayor of London?
I agree wholeheartedly with this.