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Ukraine President Dissolves Parliament, Announces It On Twitter

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Last week we were intrigued when the Ukraine Central Bank announced its FX market intervention plans not via 'trader sources" or Bloomberg but through its Facebook account (which later failed as the Hryvnia pushed on to record lows). Today, we hear perhaps even more important news - that Ukraine President Poroshenko has dissolved parliament. This was not entirely surprising news given recent political breakdowns but his chosen medium to disseminate this crucial (and potentiall detsabilizing) news... his Twitter account.

The crucial Twitter account to follow for all Ukrainians...

 

Bloomberg notes:

  • *UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT POROSHENKO DISSOLVES PARLIAMENT
  • *UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT POROSHENKO CALLS ELECTIONS FOR OCT. 26
 

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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:05 | 5141463 order66
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They should give a class on this.

CME could attend.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:08 | 5141482 knukles
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Madness.... Via Facebook and Twitter.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:13 | 5141505 tonyw
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yes madness, but if he dissolves parliament does that mean he can rule without any opposition at all, i.e. become the great dictator of all ukraine?

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:16 | 5141520 Chupacabra-322
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I see he's taken a page from the Criiminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. State Dept. / CIA on how to decemenate PsyOp, False Narrative & Propaganda Scripts.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:23 | 5141549 Keyser
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He saw where the French did it today and thought, what the hell, why not... 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:19 | 5141855 ACP
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I'd prefer people to make important announcements on twitter.

That way the bullshit media doesn't have a chance to "filter" the information for their purposes, like Huffpo and other propaganda outlets do every day.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:33 | 5141918 shovelhead
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He was afraid that if he went through Ukrainian news outlets the story would become:

"Russian tanks cross border... SS missiles close Parliament.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:44 | 5141973 NidStyles
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I wonder what sort of image this idiot is trying to portray, because this incident gives me any confidence this guy is a complete US stooge.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:20 | 5142110 Keyser
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Well, he is a puppet of a puppet... The question is, who is it behind the curtain pulling the strings... Hint, it's a couple zioinst jews in the CFR that have been pulling the strings for decades... 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:25 | 5142362 Not Too Important
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He's just keeping up with the MTV VMA's and the cra-cra Twitter crowd, tryin' to be Ukie-schnizz an' all.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:45 | 5142209 Jambo Mambo Bill
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Exactly, it seems the all countries are going Dictator Style from now on.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5141559 power steering
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I see he also used spell-check

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:19 | 5141825 fervent in spirit
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Something that Chupacabra forgot to turn on?

I know what it is to disseminate information, but not quite sure about decemenate

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:28 | 5142145 N2OJoe
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Deseminate: Like when Bill looked down at Lewinskys dress and tried to mop it up with a napkin.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:41 | 5141957 suteibu
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But no #hashtag?  This must not have come from the US State Dept.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:31 | 5141585 the phantom
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Keystone Cops... Ukrainian edition.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:47 | 5141680 Freddie
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Is this the State Dept and CIA run by Jonathan Pollard's friends and relatives?

The Ukies need to get smart and go after these oligarchs in Kiev and give them an Italian Job - like the one Mussolini and his girlfriend got.   They were hung upside down at an Esso (Rockerfeller-Red Shield oil) station.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:22 | 5141538 power steering
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Yes English IS their first language

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:45 | 5144027 NoPantsSpongeBob
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And yes, they follow him on Twitter. All 85K of them.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:07 | 5141792 Kirk2NCC1701
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In Ukraine they have snap elections.

In USSA they have SNAP elections.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:25 | 5141554 jarana
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Yes, madness...

Not using any IT technology (hardware and software) product of markets for giving a message.

Madness, the fact that governments still exist.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:27 | 5141565 Berspankme
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That's why I don't use social media. The medium for criminals like Porky

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:28 | 5141568 Stoploss
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See knucks, he's not playing enough golf...

This has most likely been the problem all along.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5141601 knukles
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Ah hah!  The panacea for all world ills.  Make the politicians caddies!  Double-bag it you fuckers!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:51 | 5141708 ebworthen
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#iamincharge

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:09 | 5141484 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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This should add some credibility to the propaganda that Kiev is winning the war against the rebels.

/s

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:13 | 5141504 Winston Churchill
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Seeing the regular fisticuffs in their parliament, surely there should have been a loud bell

to mark the end of the match.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:49 | 5141697 Theta_Burn
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A head-butt from that freakishly large head would get a message across...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:49 | 5141952 gallistic
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Porky does have a impossibly massive noggin on him...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:07 | 5142292 TheFourthStooge-ing
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He has a head like the tail of an Ankylosaurus.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:45 | 5141975 Thom_333
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Insane. The NWO seems to think that the best way to communicate with the masses (or propagandize them) is via Youtube , Facebook and Twitter...? The latest annpuncemnets not surprising considering the "communication" regarding the downed airliner was pushed out thru same channels. An airliner shot down and about 300 people killed and "evidence" is presented in social media,only?? And now this? Very few reasonably reliable facts have been presented. Perhaps the conspiracy nuts have been right all along? It´s just smoke and mirrors from the western side.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:45 | 5142217 Reptil
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I'm sure this move has nothing to do with Pornoshenko calling the parliament a bunch of traitors for not going along with his genocidal/neo-con crap?
http://rt.com/news/177560-ukraine-poroshenko-terrorist-east/

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:06 | 5141468 IANAE
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stability?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:08 | 5141481 viedoklis_lv
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Sorry, it's not North Korea "stability". Or Russian theatre with Putin-Medvedev changing chairs with each other every elections.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:07 | 5141798 Theta_Burn
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Its way worse..

with that illegal coup and all, backed with wonton murder.

What has NK to do with this again?

How many people from other nations have died as a result of internal Russian oligarch corruption?

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:27 | 5141885 viedoklis_lv
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It was as illegal as geting off Hitler.

And there where presidential election so he is legal president that represents Ukranians.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:39 | 5141942 Theta_Burn
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I see you missed the 5-6 mth period before the legal elections.

Hell of a show man, Gloria and Yulia in the depraved dyke dungeon..

People sniped in the head left and right, with a bunch actually burned alive..

All under the allCIAing eye, that part they left out, cause that would be illegal...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:41 | 5141955 shovelhead
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Until the new elections next month.

Then it will be Right Sektor's turn.They won't need a Parliament after the fire.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:19 | 5144066 The Big Ching-aso
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I ate at a shitty Chinese restaurant once. Talk about wonton murder, man.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:07 | 5141470 Senduko
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Someone's gonna get a bullet 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:50 | 5141703 Freddie
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Hopefully The Candy Man gets one along with the other Ukie oligarch scum and don't forget Yulla too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPGyKGuWeA

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:07 | 5141473 viedoklis_lv
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Nice! Now there will be no arguments for russian propoganda to say that elected parlament doesn't represent Ukranians.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:22 | 5141531 Lore
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There was no need for propaganda. Remember those videos of the beatings?  Kiev parliament did a fine job of demonstrating dysfunctionality all by itself. 

This might be a gesture of good faith to weed out Nazis in anticipation of a deal with Putin. Something is cooking, definitely.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5141596 viedoklis_lv
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They where fighting all these years. Also when that Putin criminal puppet with his family was in control (after he was throuwn out for steeling just too much from Ukranian people).

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:04 | 5141775 TheFourthStooge-ing
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For a retard, this viderkolis guy is kind of funny.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:10 | 5141811 Lore
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Just a stupid troll, too weak for a plant.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:15 | 5141833 JuliaS
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viedoklis_lv, your green swastika looks funny.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:28 | 5141890 viedoklis_lv
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Google swastika and now compare.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:10 | 5143210 TheFourthStooge-ing
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viedorkolis, your green GoogleSwastika© looks funny.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:52 | 5142008 ChiangMai
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"...after he was throuwn [sic] out for steeling [sic] just too much from Ukranian [sic] people..."

Yeah, $5 billion of our tax dollars (and counting) to replace thieves with mass-murdering Nazis backed by oligarch-funded private mercenary armies.

USA, USA!!!!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:10 | 5142305 Stumpy4516
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More likely he will control those who count the votes.  The election then is corrupt but represented as the will of the people and then he and his henchmen can do anything and the msm will still claim it's what the people wanted.

Once he solidifies greater power he clamps down hard and increases the persecution of any who speak out.  And of course increases the draft into the military.

This smells more like prep for greater battles or looting of the country's wealth.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:05 | 5141787 Jano
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Say, how many jews did your grandfather kill?

Say, have you been attending the latest SS march this year as well?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:28 | 5141894 viedoklis_lv
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Where can I see that march? Do you have any video evidence where people marchign with SS symbols / flags?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:05 | 5142049 ChiangMai
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[06:46] Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine: NEWSNIGHT

BBC Newsnight

14 February 2014

"…Mostly they carry baseball bats; sometimes they carry guns…"

Six months later, they've escalated from baseball bats to firing deliberately into city centers white phosphorus incendiary bombs and imprecise ballistic missiles developed for the purpose of obliterating entire armor units on open plains.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:16 | 5142331 Reptil
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PLENTY of NAZI'S in Kiev.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKFptM7oOk
Victoria Nuland (Ass. State Secr. Europe) weaseling her way out of her setup (admitting OUTSIDE AGITATORS as Maidan snipers!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TpZa4OMFVk

EU Parliament warning in december 2012
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P7-T...

Yatsenyuk categorised opponents (ethnic russians) as SUBHUMANS (Untermenschen - Nazi terminology during Holocaust)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140615062948/http://usa.mfa.gov.ua/en/pres...
And now it was Psaki's turn to do some weaseling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBy7tQ124Fk

Azov batalion - nasty nazi symbolism, tough looking - got massacred in Donbass anyway.
Like many fascists they love to kill civilians but don't make good soldiers. too stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJRdozlrv0
I don't like scum like that. So I can't say I was very sorry to hear that.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:07 | 5141475 Sudden Debt
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It's better not to read all this crap. It's just all slapstick.
I guess the Americans want a more hardcore with a bit more brains in charge to start a war and who can actually get it done... Up to the next...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:19 | 5141534 Chupacabra-322
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.....IMF / World Bank / BIS & Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Puppet.

There, I finished it for you.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:25 | 5141556 Sudden Debt
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Actually, I think it must be pretty exiting if you belong to that club and get to play with world events like that :)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:09 | 5141477 centerline
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Twitter?

Maybe later he will post a pick of his resignation letter on Facebook.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:08 | 5141479 Itchy and Scratchy
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There was a government?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:22 | 5141542 Chupacabra-322
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No, however, there was a Fascist Junta Nazi Regime.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:06 | 5141789 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

No, however, there was a Fascist Junta Nazi Regime.

That's why they don't need a parliament. This is probably all part of the austerity measures that Yatzi is imposing for the IMF.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:21 | 5141545 john39
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well, until victoria nuland & co. showed up anyway...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:10 | 5141485 bugsmashers
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By this post I hereby dissolve all banks and their associated governments.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:10 | 5141486 NOTaREALmerican
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And people on here said Twitter was useless.   What's twitter stock at,  might be time to "invest".

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:12 | 5141487 alexcojones
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TWATS and TWITS use tweets on Twitter

Where are the ATC tapes and black box recordings, ASSHOLE?

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:18 | 5141526 BlackChicken
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I'll bet they were accidentally destroyed.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:36 | 5141550 knukles
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Betcha they'll find 'em in a storage area in the third-floor private residence at the White House where unsolicited gifts to the President and First Lady are stored before being sorted and cataloged in the same filing cabinet drawer as the Rose Law firm billing records once Hillbillary is elected Topbonerinchief.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:45 | 5141980 shovelhead
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I hope Billy's old cigars ain't up there.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:12 | 5142975 knukles
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One of my buds said at the time they should name a cigar after her, "The Monica".
I said they should name a Humidor after her.

Sick fuck.  Betcha he gnawed on that thing in fronta Hillary with a shit eating grin on his face
Then kissed her....
LOL

The Clintons, America's Couple!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:10 | 5141489 ZakuKommander
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How's that new Constitution project coming along over there?  Perhaps they need the assistance of a noted US Constitutional scholar?  LOL!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:13 | 5141490 ThroxxOfVron
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SEE: WE are a democracy, too !

 

TAKE THAT FRANCE !!!

 

Will one of you please call the IMF on the way out and let them know...  

I can't right now.  Nuland and Biden are waiting for me outside in a double parked limo...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:11 | 5141494 Cacete de Ouro
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Ukrainian Secret Service tweet: "You know those air traffic control recordings from MH17 that we confiscated from Borispol air traffic control tower? Well, we lost them. Opps. Sorry"

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:14 | 5141512 cougar_w
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Check under the sofa cushions.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:21 | 5141541 Platinum
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Change you can use to buy a beer.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:19 | 5141849 Lore
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Whistleblowers are biding their time. Plea bargainers are caching paper trails. Truth will out. It will come in a torrent and make BIG waves.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:11 | 5141499 Dr. Engali
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Shortly before the end of his term El Presidente Zero will tweet:

I'm a gay Kenyan and I don't care who knows it.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:22 | 5141546 ThroxxOfVron
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Twittering about it and then doing a TV interview with Ellen Degeneres sounds about right.

OR, maybe a two hour prime time original cast reunion The VIEW special ?!

( That will teach Katy Couric not to return my horse! )

I'll gt back to you after the LGBT focus group info is run through the computer algo...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:15 | 5141500 Mike Masr
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Maybe there will be better fabricated evidence vis a vis, photo shop, faked youtubes and misc anti-russian propaganda after the election. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:13 | 5141506 alexcojones
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Almost like our Negro-in-Chief has personally

Whitewashed Putin, cuz Vlad looks so good by comparison.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:35 | 5142402 gallistic
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Your "negro in chief" is 50% white.

Ipso facto whites are equally as guilty as "negroes" when it comes to Obama and anything he does.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:14 | 5141507 Peter Pan
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Elections in Ukraine? i can just see the result.

Poroshenko aide: I have bad news and good news Mr President.

Poroshenko: what is the bad news?

Aide: the opposition got 52% of the vote

Poroshenko: So what is the good news?

Aide: You got 55% of the vote.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:21 | 5141536 Son of Captain Nemo
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*UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT POROSHENKO CALLS ELECTIONS FOR OCT. 26

Petro. Bro, it's time for you to do one of two things...

You can either get another emergency loan from the IMF for more merc protection although I have this funny feeling that the rapidly dwindling numbers protecting your fat ass probably haven't been paid for some time and are getting kinda pissed... 

I meant to ask you how John Brennan's "crops" are doing this year in Afghanistan?  If it's been a good enough growing season maybe he and the boyz in McLean can tied you over with a loan before the start of the New Year?!!!

If you can't come up with that emergency aid?  My advice is that you find yourself a really good plastic surgeon and pack quietly before you are completely surrounded by rebel forces in the next few months, or you might just be making a visit with "the gimp" to bring in the New Year!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:28 | 5141571 Winston Churchill
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Paraguy is nice for your type I hear.

Weekly sing songs at the Horst Wesel glee club.You will feel right at home Porky.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:44 | 5141649 Son of Captain Nemo
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From Rupert's stable at"Sheilaville"...

Looks like the tin soldiers workin for the tribe are getting "cold feet" again just like they did this time last year?

Someone needs to remind President Lancelot Link that all four branches of the military (especially the ones that where the boots) ain't seein the "same shit" on the ground with those airstrikes from last week!

Well if Syria doesn't work out, Dempsey can always invade Russia as the "alternate"!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/25/joint-chiefs-chairman-says-is...

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:21 | 5141544 olle
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Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory part 2, the Chocolate King of Ukraine POROSHENKO moves on... I hate white trucks...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5141553 trader1
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this movie scene best captures the moment (given russian posturing around the borders)

<note: putin = bobby fischer>

interesting event before tomorrow's big meeting.

will poroshenko be a no-show in minsk?

 

angie, what kind of a pep talk did you give the choco king yesterday?  ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5141560 bid the soldier...
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With the Dutch report MH17 due in a week, the dissolution of the Rada should give the killers of Kiev ample time to travel to Brussels, shuttle back to the US on Nuland's State Department Jet and stay at her beach house in Cherry Grove until the MSM blows the whole thing over.

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:28 | 5141570 trader1
Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:40 | 5141948 bid the soldier...
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Thanks for the link.  I'm always puzzled to read the realpolitik prognostications of academics that have nothing to do with reality.

Grandmaster =Putin

Rank amateurs =Obama, Rasmussen, Breedlove, Poroshenko, etc

now opens the door for poroshenko to accept putin's offer

If  Poroshenko doesn't "accept", Putin will rub his face in the wreckage of MH17.

If what Walker  (probably not a tenured professor, rather a student) says is true about the extent of the Russian Army in Donbas, Putin, angry about the Ukrainian attempt to raze Donetsk and Luhansk, will keep his army there, like the US army in Iraq and Afghanistan, until it turns into a pumpkin at midnight.

Clearly forces of NATO have not come rushing to the rescue of the Ukraine in Donbas (could NATO know what we have not yet been told?  Ukrainian jets shot down MH17 with cannon fire?)

That puts the ball back in the sanctions court and that hasn't worked out too well for the sanctioners, has it?

Russia’s extreme leverage over Ukraine is now – in all likelihood, its invasion option will have disappeared by the onset of winter (and possibly earlier). 

I dislike ambiguous talk like this.  Is Walker saying that the cold weather of winter works against Russia or that something unforeseen by Putin will occur by December 21st?

And then he cites photos and videos and doesn't link them.

Putin chews up Walker and spits him out.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:52 | 5142256 trader1
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Edward W. Walker is Associate Adjunct Professor in the Department of Political Science and Executive Director of the Berkeley Program in Eurasian and East European Studies at the University of California, Berkeley. His book Dissolution: Sovereignty and the Breakup of the Soviet Union (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003), explains the breakup of the Soviet Union into fifteen successor states, emphasizing the role of the institutions and the mythologies of Soviet federalism and nationality policy. He is also the editor of a posthumous volume of writings by Mark Saroyan, Minorities, Mullahs, and Modernity: Reshaping Community in the Former Soviet Union (1997), and he has written and taught on communist systems and post-communist politics, nationalism, ethno-politics and ethnic conflict in the former Soviet Union; problems of federalism, secession, and nationalism; religion and the state; frozen conflicts in post-Soviet space, political Islam movements in the Soviet successor states, and geopolitics in Eurasia. A National Fellow at the Hoover Institute in 1998-1999, Walker received his Ph.D. in political science from Columbia University in 1992, and he has an M.A. from the Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (1986) and a B.A. from Harvard (1977).

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:18 | 5142549 bid the soldier...
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More Associate Professor Walker:

July 19, 2014  two days after the MH17 tragedy

It now appears highly likely that MH-17 was brought down by a separatist-controlled Buk that was launched from territory controlled by the separatists. As for the provenance of the Buk, it is possible that the separatists captured it from the Ukrainians, but there is no credible evidence of that, and I think it is more likely that they obtained the system from Russia.

If that turns out to be the case, my guess is that the sequence of events went roughly as follows. In the wake of the Ukrainian military successes in Slavyansk and elsewhere last week, the Kremlin ordered the Russian military and security organs to do whatever was necessary to keep the border open and prevent supply lines into Luhansk and Donetsk from being closed. To that end, the Russians began stepping up military activity along the border, including rocket fire from Russian territory (for which there is also pretty good video evidence) to prevent key border crossings from coming under Ukrainian control. They also decided to deny Ukraine control of the airspace over the conflict zone. As a result, they shot down an SU-25 close to the border with an air-to-air missile from one of their fighters on Wednesday.

Rather than abandoning efforts to keep their support for the separatists covert by openly violating Ukrainian airspace, however, they decided to supply them with more effective SAM systems, including first one or more Strela-10s and then one or more Buks. At least some of the people operating the system were likely former or current professional Russian soldiers with the technical expertise to operate the systems and who were recruited for the operation by Russian security agents and who coordinated their activities with Russian intelligence. Finally, I suspect that those operators, using their independent Buk-system radar, confused MH-17 for a AN-26, bringing down the commercial airliner and killing 298 civilians.

Really, Trader one what is the point of going to print two days after the tragedy with nothing but the West's WMD version of events.  Where is the mention of Russian radar which shows Ukrainian fighters or fighter tracking the doomed plane?  Where is the intelligence, as valid as any phony western intelligence, that the fuselage was riddled with cannon fire which can not be mistaken for shrapnel. Or that the plane was diverted off course by Kiev because of bad weather.

Walker doesn't fail to mention the purported conversation between the two separatists which would be inadmissible in any court in this country. Or the hacked up confession on the separatist wed site.

Does Walker seriously believe that the pro-Russian rebels are so stupid as make these acknowledgements by radio and internet.

OH WAIT.  THE ISRAELIS HEARD SYRIAN OFFICERS ADMIT THEY FIRED SARIN GAS.

WHEN IS THIS BULLSHIT GOING TO END?

Polonius

What do you read, my lord?

Hamlet

Words, words, words.

Polonius

What is the matter, my lord?

Hamlet

Between who?


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:04 | 5142490 shovelhead
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Another academic ponderer who links to the CFR, the holy grail of academics.

So what exactly has Putin DONE? Crimea had a vote to join Russia and Russia accepted taking them. He's put troops on the border to protect Russians if Uke forces overwhelm Eastern cities, He's given refuge to 3/4 million Russians and UKES who have fled shelling and given humanitarian aid to besieged cities in the East.

This is the bad guy?

What has Russia been accused of?

Nothing that is proven despite the daily accusations of new incursions and atrocities that now have reached the level of ludicrous.

Russia is under no obligation whatever to stop Russians passing into the East to visit family or volunteer with the rebels.

Academics know which Govt. gives out the grants and drives the think tanks.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:45 | 5142215 Phuk u
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Nice link Trades

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:16 | 5143240 bid the soldier...
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Now trader, you know as well as I that Poroshenko is totally out of the loup when it comes to accepting Putin's offer.  Putin's offer, if accepted, will be by the Pentagon and State Dept in Washington and be relayed to Poroshenko through Nuland.

Talk about the White Truck Charade. Really!

 

In so far as the fighting in Donbas is concerned, what we have here is Minature Golf with missiles and Willy Pete.  It is a microscopic version of Napoleon's pursuit of the Russian Army in 1812.  Instead of marching from Paris to Moscow, Poroshenko marched from Kiev to the Russian border, where apparently he his having his ass handed to him by the opposition.  (Serves him right for shooting down a passenger plane, even if he was told Putin had a window seat in first class).

When the motherfucks from the West say it's okay for Kosovo to quit Belgrade and it's okay for South Sudan to quit Khartoum, but if the Russian speaking section of Ukraine dares to think about leaving Kiev there will be all kinds of hell to pay.

Well, we've all seen how hard NATO came down on the separatists.  And we know who the sanctions really hurt by who's crying the loudest.

AH, WAR

Sherman didn't say the war was hell, because it bore a slight resemblance to 

 Un dimanche apres-midi a l'lle de la Grand Jatte.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:59 | 5143839 Jano
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Pporosenko does not want to die. Not yet, you don´t remeber Hussein, or Kdafi? Am convinced, Porosenko does. This zionist jewish moron is just a talking head.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:26 | 5141561 David Wooten
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Using a Twitter account might have been the only safe way Poroshenko can conduct government business now.  As it seems increasing likely that MH17 was shot down by elements of Ukraine's armed forces, the guilty party(ies) may try to rub Poroshenko out before he has a chance to have them arrested.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-causes-of-the-mh17-crash-are-classified...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:06 | 5141791 smacker
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-causes-of-the-mh17-crash-are-classified...

"...the results of the [MH-17] investigation will be published once completed only if a consensus agreement of all parties that have signed the agreement prevails."

AND:

"Any one of the signatories has the right to veto the publication of the results of the investigation without explanation."

So these four criminal conspirators [Ukraine, the Netherlands, Australia and Belgium] have already decided to hide the truth that MH-17 was shot down by Poroshenko's own air force.

Meaning that Russia will be alone in demanding full publication. I sincerely hope Russia will publish and be damned.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:22 | 5142560 shovelhead
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"We have conclusive proof that rebels shot down MH-17."

" Let's see it."

"Can't. Top Secret. You'll just have to take our word."

"WTF!."

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:27 | 5141566 Chupacabra-322
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Guess the Criminal IMF isn't going to get paid back in their "pound of flesh."

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:37 | 5141612 Winston Churchill
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Dollar of offall.

FIFY

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:41 | 5141636 john39
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they will get it from the U.S. taxpayer instead.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:32 | 5141586 stinkhammer
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suspend his account!  that fuck!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5141598 hwy
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diisolved - then frozen - then burried

Temperature has been dropping here in E. Europe though we are still in August. Heaven just remindering the Ukrainians

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:02 | 5141767 Freddie
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Yup.  How cold in F?  We knew it was any day because old man winter is just around the corner and nothing in Kiev or Washington can stop old man winter.

Putin just sits back and waits.  Ukies - your problem is in Kiev, Washingyton DC, Brussels and a place your oligarchs have dual citizenship in.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5141637 IridiumRebel
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he'd also like to announce his love of pork rinds.... #porkrindshenko

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5141641 general ambivalent
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There's ebola in them there white trucks. And Putin's little green men, they got their hands in my cookie jar.

The audio track has been removed from this video for a copyright violation. Please kill 7 children in 7 days to receive 7 billion more chocolate dollars from Lagarde. Thank you. It's been a pleasure serving you today. iNudelman.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:46 | 5141671 DeliciousSteak
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This is great news. It most likely means that some sort of an agreement between Russia, Ukraine and the EU is close. Let's just hope other, hmm, parties don't decide to spoil it like what happened to the agreement with Yanukovich.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:57 | 5141742 JohninMK
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Dream on.

Kiev has got a real problem, the Right Sector if he goes for peace he could find himself at the end of quite a different civil war.

Also Putin has a problem, the Seperatists may not take orders from him if the start to push the Ukrainian Army back. They seem to be on a roll, they only really need him for ammo and fuel now.

As to the EU they just want the sanctions lifted and they can do that themselves tomorrow if they didn't need to save face somehow.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5141880 Freddie
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The Seperatists and ukies should go to Kiev and get the dual citizen oligarchs and their henchmen and put them on a trial.  Then hang them for treason.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:18 | 5143982 tonyw
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There is a huge difference between definding a comparatively small area and conducting a huge offensive.

IMHO at present the seperatists are not numerous enough to mount such an offensive.

Whilst they seemingly chew up the junta's offensive they will grind them down to a point when they can no longer mount offensives.

A fourth stage of drafting is rumoured which will go down badly with the general population.

Replacement equipment will be/is being supplied from neighbouring countries to give the appearance the junta army is not loosing too much.

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:53 | 5141712 JohninMK
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We didn't really think that that World Bank loan to Ukraine was only about money did we? All the US farm supply industry is lining up to get their share in the trough. Plus, genetically modified crops as well. When you are over a barrel financially you cannot keep the vultures away.

Finally, a little-known aspect of the crisis in Ukraine is receiving some international attention. On July 28, the California-based Oakland Institute released a report revealing that the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), under terms of their $17 billion loan to Ukraine, would open that country to genetically-modified (GM) crops and genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture. The report is entitled “Walking on the West Side: the World Bank and the IMF in the Ukraine Conflict.” [1]
In late 2013, the then president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, rejected a European Union association agreement tied to the $17 billion IMF loan, whose terms are only now being revealed. Instead, Yanukovych chose a Russian aid package worth $15 billion plus a discount on Russian natural gas. His decision was a major factor in the ensuing deadly protests that led to his ouster from office in February 2014 and the ongoing crisis.
According to the Oakland Institute, “Whereas Ukraine does not allow the use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture, Article 404 of the EU agreement, which relates to agriculture, includes a clause that has generally gone unnoticed: it indicates, among other things, that both parties will cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies. There is no doubt that this provision meets the expectations of the agribusiness industry. As observed by Michael Cox, research director at the investment bank Piper Jaffray, ‘Ukraine and, to a wider extent, Eastern Europe, are among the most promising growth markets for farm-equipment giant Deere, as well as seed producers Monsanto and DuPont’.” [2]
Ukrainian law bars farmers from growing GM crops. Long considered “the bread basket of Europe,” Ukraine’s rich black soil is ideal for growing grains, and in 2012 Ukrainian farmers harvested more than 20 million tonnes of corn.
Monsanto’s Investment
In May 2013, Monsanto announced plans to invest $140 million in a non-GMO corn seed plant in Ukraine, with Monsanto Ukraine spokesman Vitally Fechuk confirming that ‘We will be working with conventional seeds only” because “in Ukraine only conventional seeds are allowed for production and importation.” [3]
But by November 2013, six large Ukrainian agriculture associations had prepared draft amendments to the law, pushing for “creating, testing, transportation and use of GMOs regarding the legalization of GM seeds.” [4] The president of the Ukrainian Grain Association, Volodymyr Klymenko, told a Nov. 5 press conference in Kiev that “We could mull over this issue for a long time, but we, jointly with the [agricultural] associations, have signed two letters to change the law on biosecurity, in which we proposed the legalization of the use of GM seeds, which had been tested in the United States for a long time, for our producers.” (Actually, GM seeds and GMOs have never undergone independent, long-term testing in the U.S.)
The agricultural associations’ draft amendments coincided with the terms of the EU association agreement and IMF/World Bank loan.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/22/70838/

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:44 | 5142645 Rootin' for Putin
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GMOs dont make you anymore money either, it all goes to the chemical company.  But it is easier, for the first 15 -25 years until the weed are chemical resistant and you cant kill them no more.  But hey, thats someone elses problem.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:54 | 5141726 SpanishGoop
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Hacked....

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:25 | 5142578 shovelhead
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80 AP reporters and no pictures.

Why am I not surprised.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:07 | 5141796 Jano
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As for the meeting tomorrow, Putin was dealing the stack of cards this time.

AM eager to see, what stock got Walzman-Kosher-Porosenko.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:16 | 5141834 trader1
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interesting that RT (live) is offline tonight (GMT 8pm - 6am) for "scheduled maintenance"

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:49 | 5142238 Phuk u
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Ominous must mean something.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:06 | 5142274 trader1
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probably means nothing...

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:28 | 5141895 ncdirtdigger
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This is what democracy looks like. Ukrainian Spring is upon us.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:38 | 5141939 asiafinancenews
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Seems reasonable to use social media as the forum for official  announcements, as Ukraine is a 'virtual' country.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:48 | 5141992 viedoklis_lv
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RIP in secret cermoney buried Russian army soldiers that fought as terorists in Ukraine.

http://tvrain.ru/articles/pojavilis_fotografii_mogil_pskovskih_desantnik...

May they souls rest in peace. It's a shame they had to die for Putin regime crimes.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:58 | 5142480 Gadfly
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It's a shame you have to post here.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:48 | 5142660 stacked
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hit your head again?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:37 | 5143835 Jano
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Take care about youor SS in Lv.

Why are you bothered by Russia?

the guys have been killed at Rsotov training range and not at Ua. U seem to be a Goebel´s son.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:50 | 5142004 giggler321
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illegitimate government, illegitimate twitter

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:08 | 5142057 jacship
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Merkel in Kyiv argued that a ‘diplomatic solution’ was the only way forward and that both sides should agree to a ceasefire. will poroshenko be a no-show in minsk?

 

 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:22 | 5142117 Sow-puncher
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Bullish! Nah, Motherfuckers...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:37 | 5142177 IndianaJohn
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The Twits is all a'twitter

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:10 | 5142303 NoWayJose
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Nazi see. Nazi do. Hitler didn't need a Parliament (or Parliament building) either!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:13 | 5142530 Robert of Ottawa
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Is this the first example of a Twitatorship?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:53 | 5143592 AgeOfJefferson
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Silence the other voices in power before they get a chance to speak or disagree. Classic/textbook Puppet Guidebook Ops.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:54 | 5143595 Moonrajah
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The revolution will be twitterized!

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 02:18 | 5143810 onmail
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The King is a Fing

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 03:45 | 5143870 IronForge
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So, did he get many "Likes" on FB?

Do the Parliament Members have a chance to reply with "Yes I'm attending", "Maybe", or "No, Get Lost"?

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:35 | 5144008 Jano
Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:49 | 5144036 StrikerMax
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Absolutelly unbelievable!!

The total and complete Lack of any type of notion of Basic Education and State Responsability.

The world's Politicians Stupidity neveer stops  amazing us ...

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