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US Furious After Source Of "Mystery" Libya Bombing Raids Revealed

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Over the past week a new geopolitical mystery emerged: an "unknown" party was launching airstrikes against Libya, which is already reeling in its latest political crisis where headlines such as this have become the norm:


The strikes puzzled all media outlets, including Reuters which just over the weekend reported that "Unidentified war planes attacked positions of an armed faction in the Libyan capital Tripoli on Saturday, residents and local media said. Local channel al-Nabaa said the planes had attacked four positions of the Operation Dawn, an umbrella of Islamist-leaning forces from Misrata which has been trying to expel brigades from Zintan, also located in western Libya." This follows a similar report when on Monday, the government said unknown fighter jets had bombed positions from armed factions in Tripoli, an attack claimed by a renegade general in Benghazi.

Turns out the renegade general was lying, and merely trying to take credit for another party's intervention. That party, or rather, parties has been revealed as Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, which as the NYT reports, "have secretly teamed up to launch airstrikes against Islamist-allied militias battling for control of Tripoli, Libya, four senior American officials said, in a major escalation between the supporters and opponents of political Islam."

But what is surprising is not the intervention: after all, hardly a day passes now when there isn't some small to medium political invasion taking place somewhere, in a world in which newsflow no longer affects anything. It is that both countries decided to roundly ignore advising the one country which previously had made it quite clear it has explicit national interests in Libya: the United States.

The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise: Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent, leaving the Obama administration on the sidelines.

It gets worse: Egyptian officials explicitly denied the operation to American diplomats, the officials said. It is almost as if the theme of ignoring and/or mocking US superpower status exhibited most recently by both China and Russia, is gradually spreading to even the more "banana" republics around the world. Because while one can debate the pros and cons of any previous administration, it is very much improbably that any regime, especially ones as close to the US as the UAE, and to a lesser extent Egypt, would have conducted such military missions without preclearing with the Pentagon first.

So now that the "mysterious" owners of the punitive bombing raids has been revealed, the next question is: why? The answer is simple - to keep Islamists in check. And since the US can no longer be relied on to do the bidding of formerly key petrodollar allies, the UAE decided to take the law into its own hands.

The strikes are another high-risk and destabilizing salvo unleashed in a struggle for power that has broken out across the region in the aftermath of the Arab Spring revolts, pitting old-line Arab autocrats against Islamists. Since the military ouster of the Islamist president in Egypt one year ago, the new Egyptian government, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have formed a bloc exerting influence in countries around the region to rollback what they see as a competing threat from Islamists. Arrayed against them are the Islamist movements, including the Muslim Brotherhood, backed by friendly governments in Turkey and Qatar, that sprang forward amid the Arab spring revolts.

And while "old-line Arab autocrats" may see the military invasion as justified (they can simply point to what the US is doing in Iraq), that doesn't mean that the US is happy in being ignored. In fact, quite the contrary: the US is "fuming" (perhaps because it is not the one conducting the airstrikes?)

Libya is the latest, and hottest, battleground. Several officials said that United States diplomats were fuming about the airstrikes, believing they could further inflame the Libyan conflict at a time when the United Nations and Western powers are seeking a peaceful resolution.


“We don’t see this as constructive at all,” said one senior American official.


The U.A.E. has not commented directly on the strikes. But on Monday an Emirati state newspaper printed a statement from Anwar Gargash, minister of state for foreign affairs, calling questions about an Emirati role “an escape” from the recent election that he suggested showed a desire for “stability” and a rejection of the Islamists. The allegations about the U.A.E. role, he said, came from a group who “wanted to use the cloak of religion to achieve its political objectives,” and “the people discovered its lies and failures.”

Most important, however, is that as the NYT notes, this latest escalation in direct political intervention in a sovereign state, means the middle-east is no longer a playground for proxy wars: after all, who needs to beat around the bush when one can directly bomb a proximal country without fears of repirsals by the international community, as Abu Dhabi and Cairo have done:

Officials said that the government of Qatar has already provided weapons and support to the Islamist aligned forces inside Libya, so the new strikes represent a shift from proxy wars —where regional powers playout their agendas through local allies —to direct involvement.

All of this ignores whether or not the strikes have actually achieved their objective of halting the militants' progress. They haven't.

The strikes have also proved counterproductive so-far: the Islamist militias fighting for control of Tripoli successfully seized its airport the night after they were hit with the second round of strikes.


American officials said Egypt had provided bases for the launch of the strikes. President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt and other officials have issued vigorous but carefully worded public statements denying any direct involvement inside Libya by Egyptian forces. In private, officials said, their denials had been more thorough.


American officials said the success of that earlier raid may have emboldened Egypt and the U.A.E. to think they could carry off the airstrikes without detection. Or the brazenness of the attack may reflect the vehemence of their determination to hold back or stamp out political Islam.

The biggest irony in all of this is that, just like in the case of ISIS, the U.A.E. is said to have one of the most effective air forces in the region, and is now using it to engage its own enemies directly, all of which is possible excluslively thanks to American aid and training.

Which means that at this point one can start the countdown until the US, seemingly in aattempt to halt the progress of another ascendent regional hegemon, will now arm the very Islamists that it was backing in Egypt before the whole Morsi fiasco, in the process making even more enemies, while the rest of the world awaits as the latest batch of weapons are used either against US interests in the region, or, as ISIS has shown, against the US itself.

Clearly, however, what is needed, is even more US intervention in a region which is rapidly bacoming nothing but rubble thanks to US weaponized "assistance and training", which benefits nobody except a few US military/industrial conglomerates, and the global money-laundering banking consortium of course.


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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:47 | 5141659 ThroxxOfVron
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"Egypt and the United Arab Emirates" bombing 'islamist insurgents in Libya?

Hmm...  -But, NOT bombing 'islamist insurgents' in Syria or Iraq?  Hmm...


                                                   ...I wonder WHY...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:48 | 5141684 knukles
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Quote of the Century:

"We don't see this as constructive at all."

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:52 | 5141707 Ignatius
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Beat me to it, knukles.  Priceless.

"We don’t see this as constructive at all,” said one senior American official.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:52 | 5141711 ThroxxOfVron
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"Let us give this another year before we reach a verdict."

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:59 | 5141738 Keyser
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Seems like Barry and the spooks at Langley were left out of the loop...  How dare they play the US game without Uncle Sugar being consulted... 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:04 | 5141778 SafelyGraze
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"Reuters reported that ..."

I keep forgetting

who owns reuters, anyway?


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:12 | 5141812 knukles
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Rothschilds, maybe
(churchlady voice)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:15 | 5141831 Liberal
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Now now...let's not use this opportunity to criticize innocent contributors to our President's fundraisers.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:35 | 5141925 Manthong
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How damn dare they bomb our Islamists in Libya!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:40 | 5141951 john39
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the bombing is obviously proof that in Libya you have real local resistance to NWO terror, whereas in Iraq and Syria, you simply have NWO terror...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:41 | 5142192 espirit
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Just because we gifted them our weapons doesn't mean we can tell them how or when to use them ;)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:56 | 5142688 palmereldritch
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:40 | 5142857 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Aside from Libya which I thought the world had forgotten, if the US start bombing Syria won't they be assisting ISIS? 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:59 | 5142923 espirit
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Sshhhh... they haven't thought that one out yet.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:49 | 5143116 MontgomeryScott
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George W. and the Neocons/libs are really pissed (along with Hussein-Soetoro and the Neolibs/cons).

How DARE they use the weapons WE gave them to 'decide' in OUR region? WE are the 'DECIDERS'!

The UAE and Egypt are just BEGGING for some CIA interdiction...

Billary and 'songbird' McCain are co-ordinating a strategy speech as we speak. They'll give the speech to Lurch and Barry as soon as they have cleared it with Dov Zackheim and Paul Wolfowitz and Zbignew Brezinski.

QUICK! Call Soetoro back from Martha's Vineyard! We need to rally the 'Merkuns! Catchphrases like 'progress' and 'democracy' and 'humanitarian crisis' will no doubt be employed...

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:24 | 5143761 Wild Theories
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No no, they are trying to stop ISIS, that's why they are going to bomb them in Syria, and not bomb them in Iraq.


Even though the Iraqis are pleading for help, and Assad sure isn't...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:47 | 5141960 Quus Ant
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Check out this vintage exchange between pre-death Gaddafi and the Sith Lord Abdullah.

and again:


Set your neighbor's house on fire and you may join him in the flames.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:02 | 5142041 john39
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if abdullah wasn't so evil and arrogant, he could see that his turn to burn was planned from the beginning...  or at least his country.  He probably doesn't care about that... 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:35 | 5141928 FL_Conservative
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Barry wasn't "on the sidelines", he was busy playing golf.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:51 | 5142012 VATICANT
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And snorting blow/getting his asshole dug-out.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:59 | 5142270 SoilMyselfRotten
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Let me touch that up FL,

He wasn't on the sidelines, he was in the rough

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:38 | 5141941 Ying-Yang
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The USA not knowing about ISIS, now air attacks on Libya from 2,500 miles away?

Does the USA really have intelligence? Lately it seems, not so much!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:09 | 5142296 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Wait until everybody gets drones just like ours, the US has set such a wonderful precedent: it's OK to drone bomb anyone you want, anywhere, for any reason. Pre-crime drone murder with no due process? No problem!

China may think the mayor of Cleveland is going to do something bad someday...WHAM there goes his house. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:04 | 5142943 disabledvet
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Yeah, no shit. "Now please close the pod bay door Hal.

I said "please close the pod bay door" Hal.

Hal? Why aren't you listening?

Listen to me opened the pod bay door now hurry the phuck up and please...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142792 Greenskeeper_Carl
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"Does the US even have intelligence?"
Of course. Unfortunately they have been all tied up spying on innocent US citizens the past couple years, and are way to busy doing that to worry about trivial matters such as which country is bombing their neighbors. Plus, Ron Paul supporters are way more dangerous...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 07:21 | 5148359 Escrava Isaura
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Because domestic population is the state worse enemy.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142793 Eyjafjallajökull
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They're busy elsewhere, like waching the Hainan island, Ukrainian-Russian border, ISIS, Taliban Afg, Taliban Pak, Iran, Guardians of the Galaxy 3D version, and last, but not least, US citizens, especially in Ferguson. Everybody has limits...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:55 | 5143148 MontgomeryScott
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They're watching, all right, but not anything relevant.

They're too busy downloading PORN.

Straight porn, gay porn, midget porn, child porn, trannie porn, group porn, BDSM porn, softcore porn, hardcore porn, ametuer porn, porn, porn, porn...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:46 | 5141981 Dave Thomas
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BULLSHIT - That's our fucking job!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:14 | 5142084 Keyser
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The US exceeds at bombing brown people that have no defense... 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:11 | 5141818 MalteseFalcon
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Are these raids war crimes?  Is it possible to charge these guys?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:19 | 5142106 oudinot
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A Canadain  family, the Thompsons; not Jewish.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:18 | 5143976 DavidC
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Thomson Financial. You might just as well ask who owns Bloomberg (i.e. how much does it matter).


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:29 | 5141860 Dubaibanker
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More and more countries are detaching themselves from the US and US dollar, every passing day and some of the biggest ones like Russia are standing up and saying NO to military expansionism based on their national self interest.

As Putin said in April, it is better if the friendly Americans/NATO visit Sevastapol base into Russian territory instead of Russians having to visit Sevastopol into friendly 'NATO' territory!

Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, now UAE, Saudi... Brazil, Colombia... all countries attacked by US in the past decade such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc.....and then thanks to the Russian sanctions, large cracks have finally appeared between the EU nations. If Scotland breaks or Germany cannot bail out Deutsche (when it fails) or the banks / economies of the weak EU countries...then this very large group when it trades in Chinese Renminbi or EUR, the final link with US dollar will give way to a new way of trading after which the national interests of every independent nation will be respected equally and not viewed from the eyes of the MIC.

Democracy and freedom (brought to you courtesy of the US of A) will be left behind and jobs will hopefully increase due to more dynamic domestic economies and relationships based on mutual respect with no US relationship to worry about.

China mostly does it right by buying or investing or building a nation's infra with a strict code of non intervention in politics. It has it's negative side but for the most part, jobs and economic growth truimphs 'freedom and democracy', almost all the time. This reduces crime, improves infra which in turn improves standards of living among various other benefits and the economy moves faster too (just ask the Top 7 out of Top 10 global growth economies, of Africa who have flourished ever since US went bust and could not 'help' them and ever since China arrived in Africa a decade ago.

If Russia received freedom and democracy like Iraq or Libya, then the world is doomed! Just ask Russia's neighbour Ukraine where freedom and democracy is being currently delivered! 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:58 | 5142032 hot sauce technician
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Very interesting. I just didn't get what you were saying about "if Germany can't bail out Deutche", then the Euro would or wouldn't be ditched? 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:38 | 5142124 Dubaibanker
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EUR may not be ditched by the EU nations until the very end. But EUR will be ditched by the non-EUR nations for trade purposes which has been ongoing due to barter trade, Russian sanctions, Chinese asking to trade in CNH etc.

I have been advocating the disintegration of EUR post the Greek/Spain crisis since 2011. But despite the political, fiscal and productivity differentials, 'they' wish to continue with this EUR currency experiment which costs the public very heavily because when a country goes down, it is unable to price itself to an advantage just like Brazil or Russia or India can do. This will lead to a fatal downfall of the weakest countries first and subsequently the stronger ones too (due to bail outs of the weaker ones until they themselves collapse) due to this EUR currency connectivity that all the disparate EU nations have.

Germany may bail out Deutsche and we can see the coming demise of Deutsche in its ever declining price over the past 2 years despite all the cost cutting and thousands having been laid off. From 120 EUR in 2007, highest price since 2008 has been EUR 60, last year was below EUR 40 and today is EUR 25.

There is no direct correlation between EUR and the Deutsche fiasco. But it will only increase pressure on the German Govt and they will have to choose between bailing out Deutche and the next domino outside Germany. One of the reasons all countries are putting bail-in requirements is due to this. Because the good old days of bail outs are coming to an end as signalled by the reducing QE in the US. Eurozone will, however, continue with its easy monetary policy till a much longer time, perhaps the longest, continuing with the fake economy of insolvent companies and employed though really unemployed and bankrupt citizens.

Trade reduction in EUR currency (hence declining demand) and internal conflicts within Eurozone should bring EUR currency down, not just the Deutshce bail out. Who knows, with all the mumbo jumbo that goes on, maybe Deutsche will not need a 'public' bail out.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142797 Doña K
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Germany does not have to bail out Deutsche, the FED will attempt to do that as the 1 quadrillion derivatives will unravel and bring down the top 6 banks if not all banks.

Attempt...... because either hyperinflation, war or total financial destruction will follow that attempt. 

Machu Picchu time

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:42 | 5142863 WhackoWarner
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I think Germany will bail-out before their economy fails.  I think Germany is the pivot nation for this USA desire for Eurasia control; all tied to the concept of (USA)  "What the frig are you doing sitting on "our" oil??? So what if it is anywhere on the planet..."What the frig are you doing sitting on "our" resources??"

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:35 | 5142151 Jendrzejczyk
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Comment withdrawn

(and a selfie down arrow for presuming to put words in the Banker's mouth)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:47 | 5142222 Not Too Important
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Save Deutche! Fire Bill Gross!

El-Erian saw this coming, and got out while the getting was good.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:24 | 5142128 Jambo Mambo Bill
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Well said, and because all that, something tells me that we are getting closer and closer to a major rift...meaning WWIII ! NO EMPIRE in history, EVER, gave up their foreign lands, their political influence and their financial grip on others without fighting to death... Folks have to realise that we are in an unstoppable countdown at the moment, we are getting closer...and our lives are on the line either way you look.

If our democracy ‘tries’ Russia or China, we will see mushroom clouds popping all over the lands...and that...will be the end of a 1000 years of evolution, unfortunately

We are heading there, human nature tells me that.

Good luck to all.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:40 | 5142188 Jendrzejczyk
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At some point in the recent past, we really began to devolve didn't we?

Was there a defining moment when THE CLOCK reversed and started spinning backwards?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:03 | 5142281 unrulian
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I'm sure there are many answers to that question but for me it was when we gave up our self reliance to corporations and globalization really took hold. It wasn't that long ago that people had a cow and a few acres and knew how to put food by. That ability is unfortunately lost and when this debt system fails if the war doesn't get us then starvation will.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:32 | 5142605 Jendrzejczyk
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My Grandfather's favorite book was "Five Acres and Independence"


His land/dream is now a Pizza Hut in Joliet.

Soul Crusher.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:31 | 5142386 Citxmech
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This is what happens when there is a lack of selective pressure favoring "the fittest." 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:44 | 5142647 nmewn
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And yet Obamao & Hitlary couldn't get to Benghazi and their "good friend Chris" all the way from Aviano.

(Or anywhere closer)

Stunning what the UAE has done with their air force these days ;-)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:24 | 5142787 Lumberjack
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Aviano plays a lot more into things than many realize. Think energy.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:05 | 5143625 cape_royds
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:24 | 5142574 onthesquare
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NO EMPIRE in history, EVER, gave up their foreign lands, their political influence and their financial grip on others without fighting to death...

Hold on there Jambo.  I am 6th generation Canadain and my parents were born British subjects.  They were too young to go to wwII but in 1948 they were made 100% Canadian.  The Empire gave them up.

My point is this can be done peacefully.

The USA has invaded Canada 3 times when the Brits were here and we sent them packing all 3 times.  Now we live as seperate nations with the longest international boarder in the world and it is lamely protected.  The majority of the time they do things differently than we do.  We are more socialistic and have a higher tolereance of minorities.

Just saying

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:38 | 5142845 Doña K
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Those days there was no need for natural resources and it is cold there. Since they have no army, the US is keeping it for last.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:04 | 5143184 Oldwood
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Onthesquare, Canada is more tolerant of minorities? Ahem...who has a half black president, excuse me! How many minorities serve in the Canadian government compared to America? Admit it, you are oppressing your minorities as they are not president or attorney general or any of the minority ruling class we have. Americans have PROVEN that we love everyone with white people willing to throw themselves on the fire rather than succumb to the racism that obviously dominate your society.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:42 | 5142862 Eyjafjallajökull
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1. Who did Soviet Union fight when they were dismantled by the US/UK?

2. Who do you think still holds ultimate domain over your country (as it does over the Land Down Under)? Who can still dissolve your government as the last resort? The same old lady you thought you have total independence from...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:52 | 5142896 WhackoWarner
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Give it a rest. Yup you got it right regarding the Queen's empire/Commonwealth (as if)....but I think you are living in la la land with the rest.  Ain't going to happen; not in Australia, Canada or any large "Commonwealth" country.

So go have another court case regarding why you are not the CORPORATE EYJAFJALLAJOKULL".  Good luck as I am with you in spirit.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 09:26 | 5144431 TuPhat
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onthesquare,  The US invaded Canada 3 times and you sent them packing?  Really?  So when did you did you take back detroit and the northern part of Michigan?  The williams family was Canadian a while back and after the US attacked they found themselves in the US.  Different history for each country perhaps.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:47 | 5142876 WhackoWarner
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I just did a search criteria of "where will the nuclear bombs fly?"  Asking for advance info for likely trajectories to targets.  Just looking for a cave or a place with great winds blowing the crap away.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 21:17 | 5142997 disabledvet
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The Internet is a far greater threat to the human race than the Hydrogen Bomb ever was or will be. "And I ain't talk in' cuz people spend all their time on the computer now." (Although that does indeed happen.)

That thing was created in The Governmet Lab for a reason...and that reason was for it to stay in the Government lab.

"Nuclear time" (chemical,atomic, sub-atomic) is slow compared to "internet time" (speed of light...maybe even faster.)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5143227 MontgomeryScott
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The EMP that proceeds the blast-wave will give you a few seconds to contemplate the reason that your internet just stopped; and seconds before the heat-wave and the radiation-wave instantly incinerate your edifice and your body; and (if you were lucky enough to be shielded from the light-wave which will instantly blind you; should you not be in a basement), you will have an eternity of time to watch as total unstoppable destruction comes your way at a speed far less than the 'internet'.

After the shockwave deafens you instantly, and your body refuses to cooperate with commands, the futility of trusting a system that relies on a power grid and a series of ones and zeros will finally be realized in your mind (probably the last thought you will have before annialation).

The INTERNET is a last-ditch tool that might be used to forestall the nuclear holocaust; NOT a 'savior' from it.

Your faith is misguided.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:40 | 5142191 TheInfoman
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Why does the U.S. need to be consulted?  Did the U.S. consult Egypt when we took Grenada?  Of coarse not.  We didn't need to consult them about goins on in our backyard, and neither do they need to consult us regarding their backyard.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:26 | 5142584 onthesquare
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As Obama pointed out in speach not too long ago..."Americans are exceptional"

The fuck they are!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:12 | 5142747 TheRedScourge
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Change "are" to "were" perhaps.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:06 | 5143195 Oldwood
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Obama is sad that he ever said that, he didn't mean it and the last thing he would ever want to do is hurt your feelings.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:48 | 5142881 WhackoWarner
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And that is precisely what you need all your neighbours/voters to to question stupidity.

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 01:28 | 5143766 Wild Theories
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It's not so much about whose 'yard' they are bombing.

It's more about whose 'militants' they are bombing...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:04 | 5142050 kill switch
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as the US was never given advance notice of these attacks.


That’s because the FSA is irrelevant. It's catching on all around the world...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:11 | 5142064 Chupacabra-322
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Dear Criminal CIA,

We are perfectly capable of arming, funding & training Terror Organziations around the World. We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your ongoing support throughout the decades. However, at this time we will NO longer be needing your services.

Best regards,

Saudi Ariabia, Egypt, Lybia, Syria, UAE, Jordan, Turkey, Yemen & Mossad.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:48 | 5142229 Not Too Important
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Mossad? Not Israel . . .

'Turkish, Israeli, Chinese Investors Show Interest in Crimea'

Excuse me, while I turn around and take this knife out of my back.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5142790 pelican
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Is this WWIII yet?  When can it be declared?  When the first nuke is popped?


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:21 | 5142558 williambanzai7
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Let me guess, someone with a name like Valerie Hunfukker is in charge of these matters...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 22:22 | 5143267 MontgomeryScott
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Her name is Valerie Jarrett, WB.

I didn't realize she preferred German men.

I was under the impression that she preferred black women. With nice big round booties. And their 'husbands' booties, as well.

 Valerie must be FURIOUS, now.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:29 | 5142809 WhackoWarner
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Actually "WE did not orchestrate, control and rig this game so we are pissed at you....time for another regime change. We'll get back to you on who we want to win"

Tue, 08/26/2014 - 07:57 | 5144110 Antifaschistische
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bombing?  "constructive" lol..

of course not, but that's where KBR comes in.   They'll rebuild it.   It's the cycle of life.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:53 | 5141720 lunaticfringe
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I truly laughed out loud when I read your observation.

I tried to call you 'merica but they told me you were busy golfing.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:04 | 5141776 ThroxxOfVron
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Hey, Luna !  I hope you are well.  It's very pleasant to see you around.

Grab a ladle or a shotgun: this kettle of fish needs stirred.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:15 | 5141830 Carpenter1
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In a year or so, the US decline won't be comedy cannon fodder anymore, it'll get real. Some say the status quo is good for another decade or two.

Not a chance. Russia, China, and Israel all making moves. Crimea isn't about Putin popularity, it's about military strategy. Russia needs (and is getting)naval ports set up all around the south, preparing for a massive, swift advance all the way down to North Africa, including Turkey on the way.
From there, it's up through Europe. Nations like Russia don't make moves without a greater plan.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5141871 Theta_Burn
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wha wha what???

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:47 | 5141988 gmrpeabody
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Ground Control to Carpenter1....

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:37 | 5141933 BandGap
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Carpenter1 = ghost of Patton.

Double dose of kool-aid today, perhaps?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:32 | 5142389 petkovplamen
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to Carpenter: have you taken your meds today? if not, please do so.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:29 | 5142594 onthesquare
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are you related to general Buck Ripper

"we got to get those dirty ruskies before they get us"

Fucking idiot.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:11 | 5143458 MontgomeryScott
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:21 | 5141862 D-liverSil-ver
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No shit, bombs are supposed to be destructive, not constructive.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:34 | 5142169 Dugald
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How dare they act independently, as the masters of violence why would they not seek our permission. It's appalling, that's what it is its appalling....its tantrum making that's what it is, several department have already gone into full tantrum mode, heads will roll let me tell you, heads definitely rolling.......we are shocked, and we thought they were our good buddies, appalling, spoilt our lunch I can tell you!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:41 | 5142433 trulz4lulz
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"You didn't bomb that!"
-Prezidente Obombya 2014

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:46 | 5142868 Eyjafjallajökull
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So that's what it feels to be on the receving end of your own medicine...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:48 | 5141685 cossack55
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The most worrying thing about all these bannana republics (most nations escept Iceland and Bhutan) is that bannanas are treated to doses of radiation b4 shipping.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:49 | 5141691 knukles
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That's helpful

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:08 | 5141800 Jumbotron
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Let the Muzzies clean there own house.  Let's stay WELL clear of this.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:42 | 5141959 john39
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Apparently the Muslims in Libya are trying to do just that... whereas the phoney zionist muslims that run egypt and co. are trying to stop them.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:43 | 5141969 crazzziecanuck
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That means we have to stop funding people like Israel and the Gulf States.

That's just not going to happen.  Ever.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:10 | 5142065 thethirdcoast
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They won't.

Iraq is the future they want for the entire globe.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:53 | 5142022 Thom_333
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Insane. I really don´t believe it. The camel jockeys in the emirates have airforce and tankers to make a round-trip bombing of Libya ?? Guess we just will have to wait for the "official" news on youtube , twitter,facebook and instagram. They seem to be the favorite modern media outlets for the NWO. I guess the presstitutes in MSM do have som standards after all. Refuse to take it up the ass and then suck it to speak.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:03 | 5142046 Overfed
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They're flying the sorties out of Egypt, not directly from UAE.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 20:48 | 5142883 Eyjafjallajökull
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Psaki might come out with something brilliant right out of the Dept of State...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:14 | 5142321 Rentier88
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FOOK off US diplomats you don't own the world or the right to advanced notice on issues that don't concern you!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:16 | 5143472 luckystars
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Notice they fly over Saudi, Jordan, Israel, Egypt, Libya

and no bitching from anyone.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:46 | 5141664 max2205
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I don't buy we didn't know

If it is true, we should pack everyone up around the world and bring all troops home

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:37 | 5141936 bh2
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This may be one of those "plausible deniablilty" arrangements. While the present administration may be rank amateurs, it may also be they've managed to strike back room agreements to provide armaments without getting involved in specific details about how they will be used, when, or where.

Neutrality is a superior strategy to intervention (AKA "internationalism") and has well served richer countries which have avoided going broke futily trying to police the world.

It's well past time for the US to turn over active supervision of regional conflicts to regional powers and let them duke it out as they see fit. Not our dog. Not our fight.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:54 | 5142025 TheReplacement
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American/NATO radar strikes again.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:50 | 5142242 Not Too Important
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Although, the Illuminati can have their Black Swans, too, and they wouldn't necessarily want us to know about it.

Go, Black Swans, Go!!!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:13 | 5142315 Jendrzejczyk
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Whether it's true or not, we should pack 'em all up and bring 'em home.

That's Oome for all you Brits.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:46 | 5141665 souljaboy
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I don't believe a damned word any of them say anymore. It's a joke.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:50 | 5142244 Thom_333
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I agree. All these strange events communicated thru the "reliable" facta outlets of Facebook, Youtube , Twitter and Instagram...

It seems like the foreign policy of the whole western alliance is coming apart at the seams. This is quite worrying. Moscow and the Warsaw Pact was one impressive behemoth...until it wasn´t. Maybe it´s time to exit all markets and go to safety. I wonder what "news" are next.

BTW - any more solid data ever communicated on that Malaysian flight that was shot down ...or are we expected to go to war with Russia based on flimsy second-hand communiques on Youtube...? This is getting very dangerous. It´s like the White House doesn´t know what it is doing.At all.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:12 | 5142310 Lumberjack
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Trust me when I say you are in good company.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:47 | 5141669 NOTaREALmerican
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I sure hpe the State Department is keeping all this straight, because the next President will want a detailed briefing (I'm sure).

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:48 | 5142225 Budd aka Sidewinder
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next President as in about 3 months from now??????

General Fill in The Blank

The military is sick of having to answer to the pussy

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:52 | 5142253 Not Too Important
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They didn't say anything about the recent culling. Too pussy to maybe lose a paycheck and that cush job at a defense contractor after retirement.

Pussyfication runs deep.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 23:24 | 5143503 MontgomeryScott
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What really turns a pussy on?

Pussies like it deep, and hard; and fast. They like to be surprised (as opposed to 'predictability').

They're constantly worried about cleaning themselves before the next cock dirties them.


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:47 | 5141672 Flybyknight
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How come the US is not furious when Israel bombs Gaza without US permission......Or does it go without saying they have it

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:03 | 5141773 talisman
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you are thoroughly confused...

not only does ISrael have US permission,
they have full US blessing for their Gaza
genocide bombing--plus all the additional
weapons, ammunition, funding,  etc
they can possibly ask for to kill Palestinians

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:26 | 5142135 CuttingEdge
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As Ofuckwit would say (if he wasn't too busy working on his swing): "Some folks got genocided"

Of course if its good genocide (i.e. in the US national interest), then its all well and dandy.

Same as the twisted Nazi fuckers in Ukraine have a green light (and Blackwater merc manpower besides) from Nuland and the State Dept to do the same against ethnic Russians. On the plus side at least Joe's son will get to frack the hell out of East Ukraine once it's cleansed (in his fucking dreams).

I wonder how long it will be before the great unwashed wake up to the fact that its "our" side who are the bad guys these days. The Germans are aready starting to get very twitchy:

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:59 | 5142273 Not Too Important
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Love this part:

"It was not long, however, before the public mood in Europe began to turn. A pivotal factor was openly voiced U.S. threats in a law that had been passed by both the House of Representatives and the Senate of the U.S. Congress that could eventually result in an invasion of the Netherlands by United States army forces.

When this was learned outrage was expressed not only within the Dutch government, but also among the population of the country. According to the law, if it should ever happen that American citizens are brought before the International Criminal Court (ICC) and accused at The Hague, Washington would exercise the preemptive right to invade the country in order to prevent prosecution.

Remember that Malaysia’s government had permitted a tribunal in 2011, whose judges in the tradition of British court proceedings condemned both George W. Bush and Tony Blair as war criminals. Some Europeans are asking if there could be a connection between the ruling of this tribunal and the loss of two Malaysian airliners."


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:51 | 5142674 trulz4lulz
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You dont need permission to test weapons on animals you have fenced in behind concrete walls!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:52 | 5141675 alexcojones
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Yup. TERROR-ism again.

On the same "Terrorism" topic

Was the  Foley Beheading video a Fake?

1) Professionally produced video (most are on cell phones)
2) The lack of any wind or background noise (like it was on a sound stage)
3) The cheesy ‘Hollywood style’ bad guy
4) The educated terrorist with a distinct British accent
5) The video is in English with Arabic subtitles (normally is is the opposite)
6) The very calm demeanor of the “victim”
7) The very casual atmosphere of the executioner and victim
8) The fade to black once they started (this is the biggest oddity because they ALWAYS feature the most gruesome part – that is the point of it)
9) The most sadistic group in the Middle East makes a beheading video PG-13?
10) The scene of the body (stills are not as convincing as video)
11) The calm demeanor of the “next victim” who supposedly just watched a friend get decapitated
12) The bad guy had no blood on him (beheading is very messy)
13) When the bad guy started “sawing” – absolutely no blood is visible
14) The reaction of the parents is pretty much “ho hum, our son died” (reminds me of Sandy Hook parents)

Http //

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:56 | 5141729 Ignatius
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Don't forget the torment of the family, like their son/brother had only come in 2nd in the sack race at the fair.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:02 | 5141764 lunaticfringe
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:02 | 5141759 lunaticfringe
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I hate missing a good conspiracy just like the next guy, but this one asks too much. The parents are in? I'm sorry, no time to finish- there's a a Yeti at my door selling Rolex watches and handing out free cheese sticks.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:09 | 5141806 NOTaREALmerican
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Get me some cheese sticks!

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5141872 knukles
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Know how you can tell a rich Ebola patient?
Wears his Rolex around his waist.

(modern neo-con, uncaring wall street humor, bitchez)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 19:24 | 5142573 Winston Churchill
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Recycling old jokes knuk, you're busted.

Thats so old I don't even properly remember the original. Nigerian civil war, but can't

remember the breakaways country's name.Biafra, that was it.

Sucks getting old, having to re hear these  ancient jokes.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:57 | 5141888 indio007
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Are you that naive?

Don't you remember Foley's capture in Libya started/proceeded airstrikes?


As for Foleys supposed parents, Did you actually see the bizarro world interview?

 they know intimate details of how the terrorists serve their captives lunch and who stands where in line … I mean jeeze

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:01 | 5142040 TheReplacement
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Being from very near them and having read some on it let me inform you a bit.  They attended church in town where they are well known.  They were in contact with at least one former hostage of the Euro-ransom-paying variety who gave them details about what was going on in captivity.  This does not smell like a conspiracy unless the US Mil being delayed for a month by the WH before launching the rescue mission while the hostages were moved the day before the raid counts as anything.  There is no need to fake killing an American over there - they will do that for real and for free.

That said, who the hell knows?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:26 | 5142367 indio007
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He might very well be dead . That doesn't mean he isn't CIA and his parents had to lie to cover up his true employment. It's well known CIA uses reporters and NGOs.


There is no moral outrage if Foley was engage in espionage.


This an end run around getting airplanes over Syria with a little "friendly fire" sprinkled in.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:33 | 5142391 Not Too Important
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Rescue mission? Hahahahaha. US Military rescue missions - where good men go to die.

If it was even launched.


Tue, 08/26/2014 - 06:24 | 5143991 indio007
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Foley murder video 'may have been staged'


Bizarro  world sibling interview (even Katie Couric is about to bust out laughing)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:13 | 5141823 kchrisc
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"Was the  Foley Beheading video a Fake?"

Did C(IA)NN "report" it? If so, go directly to fake, and do not pass "Go."

An American, not US subject.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:56 | 5142371 piratepiet
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Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:34 | 5142393 Not Too Important
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It shut up CAIR for awhile. Good enough for me.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:34 | 5142011 piratepiet
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I really really wish it was a fake.  Your list is absolutely hilarious !

But where/how would the guy live the rest of his life ?

Or maybe the vid was made a while ago and there was an agreement it could be used for propaganda purposes after he died for some reason.  Was there any indication as to the real date of production ?

(like a newspaper shown in the video ?)

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:17 | 5142035 tony wilson
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even 15 year olds are calling out obarme

foley fake


on a side note folllow the folly  of foley .

and action cut shit lets go again the sound was shit fuck it no time sort it in post.



Foley is the reproduction of everyday sound effects that are added to film, video, and other media in post-production to enhance audio quality.[1] These reproduced sounds can be anything from the swishing of clothing and footsteps to squeaky doors and breaking glass. The best foley art is so well integrated into a film that it goes unnoticed by the audience.[2] It helps to create a sense of reality within a scene. Without these crucial background noises, movies feel unnaturally quiet and uncomfortable.

Foley artists recreate the realistic ambient sounds that the film portrays. The props and sets of a film do not react the same way acoustically as their real life counterparts.[2] Foley sounds are used to enhance the auditory experience of the movie. Foley can also be used to cover up unwanted sounds captured on the set of a movie during filming, such as overflying airplanes or passing traffic.[2]

The term "Foley" is also used to describe a place, such as Foley-stage or Foley-studio, where the Foley process takes place.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:36 | 5142409 Not Too Important
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No, the thing is he posed as a progressive and turned out to be counterfeit. We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency. The torturers go free. The Wall Street executives go free. The war crimes in the Middle East, especially now in Gaza, the war criminals go free. And yet, you know, he acted as if he was both a progressive and as if he was concerned about the issues of serious injustice and inequality and it turned out that he’s just another neoliberal centrist with a smile and with a nice rhetorical flair. And that’s a very sad moment in the history of the nation because we are—we’re an empire in decline. Our culture is in increasing decay. Our school systems are in deep trouble. Our political system is dysfunctional. Our leaders are more and more bought off with legalized bribery and normalized corruption in Congress and too much of our civil life. You would think that we needed somebody—a Lincoln-like figure who could revive some democratic spirit and democratic possibility.


And we ended up with a brown-faced Clinton. Another opportunist. Another neoliberal opportunist. It’s like, “Oh, no, don’t tell me that!” I tell you this, because I got hit hard years ago, but everywhere I go now, it’s “Brother West, I see what you were saying. Brother West, you were right. Your language was harsh and it was difficult to take, but you turned out to be absolutely right.” And, of course with Ferguson, you get it reconfirmed even among the people within his own circle now, you see. It’s a sad thing. It’s like you’re looking for John Coltrane and you get Kenny G in brown skin.


There’s a lot of disillusionment now. My liberal friends included. The phrase that I have heard from more than one person in the last year is they feel like they got played.

That’s true. That’s exactly right. What I hear is that, “He pimped us.” I heard that a zillion times. “He pimped us, brother West.” That’s another way of saying “we got played.”


I think Obama, his modus operandi going all the way back to when he was head of the [Harvard] Law Review, first editor of the Law Review and didn’t have a piece in the Law Review. He was chosen because he always occupied the middle ground. He doesn’t realize that a great leader, a statesperson, doesn’t just occupy middle ground. They occupy higher ground or the moral ground or even sometimes the holy ground. But the middle ground is not the place to go if you’re going to show courage and vision. And I think that’s his modus operandi. He always moves to the middle ground. It turned out that historically, this was not a moment for a middle-ground politician. We needed a high-ground statesperson and it’s clear now he’s not the one.

And so what did he do? Every time you’re headed toward middle ground what do you do? You go straight to the establishment and reassure them that you’re not too radical, and try to convince them that you are very much one of them so you end up with a John Brennan, architect of torture [as CIA Director]. Torturers go free but they’re real patriots so we can let them go free. The rule of law doesn’t mean anything.


Sorry. Couldn't resist. Best laugh I've had for a week.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:20 | 5142105 nc551
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Just because the video was fake doesn't mean they didn't eventually chop his head off and snap that final photo in the video.  Some of the Foley's co-prisoners were released and said they were regularly subjected to mock executions and it would not surprise me if this was one of them.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:25 | 5142137 john39
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i am certain that the manequin in the video was terrified.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:59 | 5142271 Thom_333
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Normally I would express my doubts on your opinion - but with the recent news - Arab Emirates - countries the size of a post stamp.. their air force making a round trip to Libya or flying out of Egyptian bases or whatever the next news cycle will try to tell us....This seems more an more like a Wag the Dog TV production. Does anyone know what Bruckheimer is doing right now. Maybe I should phone him. If he is on "vacation" os something like that...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:49 | 5141690 ebworthen
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The ultimate irony is that the U.S. has funded and armed the very Islamic Jihadists it says we are fighting in the "War on Terror" twice in the last three decades; the Mujahedin in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Russians, and right now.

What did we lose 4,000+ young Men and Women in Iraq and Afghanistan for again?

Why did we remove Qaddafi then lose our Ambassador and three other souls?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:55 | 5141725 LawsofPhysics
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Why do oligarchs kill the sheeple?  That's easy.  They do because they know that there is no political, economic, or monetary solution to resource scarcity.  Living that high on the hog most definitely requires a lot of resources, so, no soup for you, as it were.


same as it ever was.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:16 | 5141840 WTFx10
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Because NO ONE has the BALLS to Kill them?


Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:46 | 5141986 negative rates
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Lets not complain about who killed who, lets rejoyce in the pleasures of harvest and leave the fighting for tomorrow.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:14 | 5142081 TheReplacement
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Does that include you or are you complaining that others aren't doing what you wish they would?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:35 | 5142171 oudinot
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I think you are right.

And if you do have the balls you are a terrorist.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:22 | 5141867 blackbeardz
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MIC profits

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5141875 Paveway IV
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The U.S. lost at least 10,000 young Men and Women in Iraq, and that's excluding Afghanistan. 

The fake 4,000+ number was manufactured by DoD spinmeisters during the Iraq wars. That's only the number that 'qualified' according to their classification rules and their official reports. The true cost of the Iraqi wars - excluding PR spin - was closer to 10,000 U.S. military lives.

Afghanistan is officially reported as around 2,000, but is actually much closer to 3,000 U.S. military lives.

Both of the above real figures exclude the one-suicide-per-hour rate of otherwise healthy discharged vets. 

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:50 | 5142454 Major Major Major
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"...Self-inflicted homicide, don't pull the trigger.

I feel like I got to tell you, you got something to contribute. 

Regardless what you're into, regardless what you've been through, I feel like I got to tell you, you got something to contribute."



Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:50 | 5142241 css1971
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A few dollars more.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 15:49 | 5141694 ThroxxOfVron
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Hmm...   Those U.A.E. fighter/bomber sorties are flying awfully close to Israel for them not to have noticed...

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:05 | 5141750 ThroxxOfVron
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IF the Israelis DID notice they didn't say anything about it.  ...At least not publicly.

IS someone NOT sharing prime intel with their most generou$ benefactor and $uper $pecial ally ?

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:07 | 5141790 lunaticfringe
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The Israelis', particularly while involved in skirmishes of their own, rarely if ever monitor inbound warcraft. Often they are busy smoking hashish and making matzah balls instead.

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:26 | 5141851 ThroxxOfVron
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Fully absorbed in skirmishing with semi-captive semi-autonymous Palestine and ignoring local airspace?

What IF one or more of those purportedly U.A.E. fighter/bomber aircraft suffered an Ukranian/Malaysian style accident and crashed w/ a full payload and fuel right on something big/expensive/culturally important in Israel ?

Nah.  What am I talking about?  It's not like islamic jihadists resort to suicide bombings or anything like that.

...Besides they would be destroying their own uber expensive airplane.

Unless they just found a few fighter/bomber aircraft lying around in the desert somewhere all fueled up and loaded to go...






Mon, 08/25/2014 - 16:44 | 5141930 ThroxxOfVron
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Of course, IF those fighter/bomber aircraft were actually coming out of Iraq: flying south into Saudi airspace and then folling the flight path shown in the graphic...


Say.  About that graphic:  Doesn't the United States have airbases IN Saudi Arabia that would be right in the flight path depicted?

What ho!   What do we have here:

"Eskan Village Air Base     Location: Lat 24.576, Lon 46.848

King Abdul Aziz Air Base  Location: Lat 26.255, Lon 50.146

Riyadh Air Base                Location: Lat 24.71, Lon 46.725

King Fahd Air Base           Location: Lat 21.482,  Lon 40.539   "

Hmm...   I guress the U.S. just doesn't have ANY radar or anything like that at ANY of the airbases in Saudi Arabia....

 ...Or at the U.S. airbase in Qatar either...

"Al Udeid Air Base           Location: Lat 25.117, Log 51.315"

Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:17 | 5142098 TheReplacement
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Ugh, the article strongly implied the strikes were flown out of Egypt by UAE crews.  Why on earth would they sortie all the way from the gulf if they can just go from next door?

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