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Merkel Slams US Hegemony? "America Can't Solve All The World's Problems Anymore"

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First Russia and China, then UAE, Egypt, and Turkey... and now it appears Germany (following a phone call with Putin) is pulling the rug out from under US hegemony - just as Obama's warmongery ramps up...


Which is odd because just yesterday, President Obama (who never lies) stated "The United States is and will remain the one indispensable nation in the world..." adding that "no other nation can do what we do." Perhaps he is wrong?

“Even a superpower can’t solve all of the problems alone anymore,” German Chancellor Angela Merkel says.

Merkel did not stop there...


Seems like she is returning to the offensive from the defensive...


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Wed, 08/27/2014 - 12:52 | 5149652 Dr Strangemember
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Duuuhhhh!!!!!  Merkel is a bit of a slow learner is see.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 12:56 | 5149672 crazzziecanuck
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America makes most of the world's problems.  It's never solved any.  Solving problems doesn't make money.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:01 | 5149702 Latina Lover
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Wow! Let's hope that Merkel has secure communications, that she doesn't plan on taking any commerical flights like MH17 or flying over the Ukraine, and that her bodyguards are extra vigilant.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:04 | 5149725 SamAdams
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At the top, it's all ruled by those who own the BIS.  However, the CEO's of their state corporations are free to battle it out and borrow as much debt money as possible in the process.

That's how it works... Enjoy the show.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:09 | 5149757 Pool Shark
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Umm,... did I miss something? When did the US actually solve any of the world's problems? 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:14 | 5149788 Raymond K Hessel
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The world's problems are solved when you emigrate from whatever shithole you were born to and move to the US.

Problems solved.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:21 | 5149826 insanelysane
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There was an article the other day that the sanctions are going to cost 50,000 German jobs.  And as summer wains, it starts to get a little chilly in parts of Germany and there may not be any nat gas coming from Russion.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:27 | 5149872 jbvtme
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amerika doesn't solve problems. it creates them

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:29 | 5149881 max2205
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Ouch, Barry be getting the Merkel strap-on.....

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:36 | 5149919 espirit
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All going down on Obombas watch.

Wow, what a legacy.

(btw, when's tee-time?)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:54 | 5150021 Uber Vandal
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Somehow, it will still all be Bush's fault.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:05 | 5150077 espirit
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I gave you the greenie because of the hypersensitivity elicited here at ZH to the "B" word.

That, and somebody dropped off a box of rocks.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:57 | 5150874 Uber Vandal
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I probably should have put a <sarc> tag on that one.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:17 | 5151685 gmrpeabody
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It's a lesson not to be soon forgot, not around here anyway.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:48 | 5151804 remain calm
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When you are a weak spineless lying pos even fat ugly women enjoy beating you up. When you voted him in what were you expecting America? You got just what you asked for. Enjoy

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:59 | 5151843 JuliaS
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"...when you emigrate from whatever shithole you were born".

As clearly illustrated by Edward Snowden.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:18 | 5152109 bunzbunzbunz
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Thank you for one example. Please instead of rhetoric, post immigration statistics. Feel feel to try to prove your point with facts.

Also, everyone please note that anti-american posts get up votes. And pro-american posts get downvotes...therefore...

FUCK AMERIKA!!! Putin will show these USSA PUSSY(riots) how to play chess instead of checkers!!!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:36 | 5152164 JuliaS
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You crazy? I love America! I want it to be what it was as oppose to the shithole it's become! Putin will teach Obama nothing. It if worked, it would've happened already. I don't want Putin to replace Obama.

I want Ron Paul or someone puting an equal respect for the Constitution being in charge. I don't want wars. I don't want destruction. I don't want death.

We are blessed with a prime piece of land, peaceful neighbors and oceans everywhere else. God damnit! We have a good thing here. Let's not piss it away like this with sociopaths hitting buttons bringing about complete anihilation.

Let's not wait for Putin to fix our shit! That's our fucking job!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:51 | 5152232 asdasmos
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They are increasing the cost to renounce US citizenship to $2,350 after record renunciations.

The amount of people renouncing are undercounted. Waiting times around the world do not add up as they can process many per day. In Toronto, Canada, the amount they can process in a year is just about the same as the official number of renunciants and relinquishments for the wolrd per year.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:48 | 5152767 Drunk In Church
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I strongly disagree.  America can solve all the world's problems.  We can't leave it to the French.  America is the world's best hope.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:58 | 5152564 bunzbunzbunz
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Agree, but other countries exist too. So do individuals. A country not ready to defend itself/prove abilities will be taken advantage of. Economically, militarily, psychologically. There are always military, religious, and economic powers that will feed on anything where the cost/benefit analysis proves in their favor.

I don't think anyone is truly naive enough to think we can just stay out of the world's affairs and be our own country.

We can either accept being taken advantage of, fight to stay in the middle, or fight to take advantage of others.

I don't know what is right. Rightness depends on the perspective. The perspective depends of psychology. Psychology changes. You can either fight for a "greater good" or fight to prevent others from fighting for a "greater good". Either way, you are both right and wrong, depending on perspective.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:07 | 5152655 bag holder
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Well, that's right, we can't stay out of the world's affairs and be our own country. Our currency is backed by aircraft carriers.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:08 | 5152658 sleepingbeauty
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"I don't think anyone is truly naive enough to think we can just stay out of the world's affairs and be our own country."

1. The swiss do it fairly well.
2. Crap, just stop bombing folks.
3. So the choice is to be a bully or to be bullied. I reject that those are the only options.
4. There's this thing other countries do, it's called getting along. From every perspective, it's right.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:02 | 5152852 conscious being
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Sleepingbeauty - of course you are correct. I just want to point out that you are arguing America's fate with bunzbunz who plays for the Hebrew National team.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:49 | 5152810 silver4me
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I'm not american nor anti-america. I upvote because americain government has never solved any problems. Plain and simple.In WWII they dropped a nuclear bomb on civilians in Japan after Germany had already surrender. The bomb was not needed. Vietnam, and every war since has always been about profits and never started by citizans of the USA.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:32 | 5152152 Tarshatha
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OMG, did Brzezinski ok this?

Their German puppet just can't run around spouting any old shit that crosses her mind?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:21 | 5152505 palmereldritch
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Part of the negotiated settlement was Putin's insistence that Lagarde has to work off her corruption fine as a Ukrainian truckstop waitress.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:10 | 5150131 SuperRay
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Bush is a scumbag globalist puppet, just like his father and grandfather.  I'll give you even odds that Obama doesn't make it to the end of his term.  He'll either be hospitalized or maybe fake his death, like Ken Lay, just to get away from DC.  At least Bush had a goal and a dream - to take over the world along with his Nazi pals at the CFR and PNAC.  Obama hasn't got a clue, doesn't know what to do, and is scared shitless.  

The USA has been the biggest troublemaker in the world since WWII ended.  The CIA has managed to fuck things up beyond all recognition.  They've toppled governments, assassinated anyone who stood in their way, and have served bankers and corporations since the day they were born (sired by Wall St. bankers and lawyers).  And they're not going to stop.  Sure, we've given away aid to developing nations and have bases all over the world, but it wasn't to 'protect freedom.'  It was to control everything.  There's always a price (and the money always goes to the bankers).  The truly sad part of the story is that all the proof is out there.  All it takes is some curiosity and a wish to know the truth.  That is definitely not a priority for Americans.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:20 | 5151693 gmrpeabody
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But, what about baseball, what about APPLE PIE for God's sake?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:50 | 5151807 SuperRay
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Oh, yeah, and Mom!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:20 | 5151940 zaphod
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SuperRay hates Mom's everywhere.

(SR I upvoted you)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:23 | 5152120 bunzbunzbunz
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Don't be a little girl. Argue with him even if you think he is right. Quit sucking eachother's dicks and debate.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:27 | 5152138 Vendetta
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I tried to find something wrong with what you wrote, but couldn't find much... sorry.  Oh but scumbama will make it to the end of his term.  Then he'll ride off into the sunset collecting his payola for national betrayal like the last 8 presidents.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:40 | 5152194 August
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Actually, the only positive component of the Obama Legacy will be the collapse of Team America's World Police function.

The big follow-on negative for 'Murcans will be the USD's loss of reserve status; however, this will happen sooner or later anyway, and I'm of the opinion that sooner is better:  it will likely precipitate some (much needed) serious shit on the domestic front.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:25 | 5151956 Kirk2NCC1701
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When decoded, she was clearly referring to Einstein that "Problems cannot be solved at the same level they were created". 

IOW... "The level at which the problems are created (by the US) are rather basic, and at some point the real Adults in Geopolitics need to step in an take over."

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:12 | 5152661 sleepingbeauty
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The Kirk avatar kinda ruined the whole adults need to take over for me. ;-)

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:12 | 5152748 Kirk2NCC1701
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Mon, 09/01/2014 - 11:06 | 5167490 cali
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Daily lurker and first time commenting:

I couldn't agree more!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:29 | 5149885 MalteseFalcon
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Could someone list the global problems solved by the US in the last 25 years?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:35 | 5149912 NOTaREALmerican
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Well, uh,  think of how much WORSE it could have been if we weren't out there try to spread freedom-n-democracy.  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:49 | 5149991 ChiangMai
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Not yet solved, but the USA is working hard on the overpopulation problem:

Earth: 248 armed conflicts after WW2; US started 201 (81%), killing 30 million 


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:20 | 5152340 ShakaZulu
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I'm afraid it's the ONLY "problem" we are going to solve before the end of this century.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:25 | 5152754 Kirk2NCC1701
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Even there they do a shitty job: Off by 50x too low in results, and 50x too expensive.

That's 50x50, or off by thousands of times in Combined Effectiveness.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:31 | 5150298 notadouche
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Turned the scientific certainty of a "second ice age" when I was a wee lad and completely turned it into an oncoming scientific "burning in hell" known as global warming.   Good ole American know how and ingenuity right there.   Plus the US has even learned how to monetize the situaition allowing the offending acts to still occur if you can afford to pay for the rights to burn the planet all to hell.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 16:32 | 5151081 Monotaur
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They never want to "solve" problems, instead they incite them. Then by "trying" to fix the problems, they come a step closer to NWO. Example: "War on Terror"

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:53 | 5151611 James_Cole
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Could someone list the global problems solved by the US in the last 25 years?


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:59 | 5151630 nmewn
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The election of Obama caused the oceans to recede.

You're welcome ;-)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:30 | 5151719 gmrpeabody
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You don't have to have any higher education.., or have had to hold down any kind of job..., or even have to be of any proven particular nationality..., to get elected President. If that ain't contributing, I don't know what is.

(having a degree and having been educated are two different things entirely, for those of you who will surely down me)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:59 | 5151629 ugmug
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We solved the problem of turning billionaires into trillionaires....

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:15 | 5152868 conscious being
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Hollywood solved the problem of how we are supposed to think and feel.


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:11 | 5152870 conscious being
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Hollywood solved the problem of how people are supposed to think and feel.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:11 | 5152470 rabetwoirr
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Replace "Solved" with "Created" and then you have a host of answers!

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 10:39 | 5153645 gcjohns1971
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Could someone list the global problems solved by any country in the last 1000 years?

Seems you have an 'inflated expectations' problem.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:58 | 5150883 InvalidID
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 There will be no sanctions on gas and oil, who are you kidding? Russia has no ammo left.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 17:43 | 5151331 MykeTheVet
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Welp, when you get linked from Drudge, this is what happens...a drone with an opinion. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:40 | 5151750 Raymond K Hessel
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Hey SuckMyDyke,


When Americans start crossing the border into other people's countries than I'll take back what I said.

As it stands, I'm 100% correct and the rest of you guys are fucking full-retard American-hating jackass libtards who think food, medicine, and shelter should be handed to you on the backs of people who earn them for you.

To one and all, America has faults but it shines sunlight out of its own asshole compared to timid Europeans, cannibalistic Africans, psychotic Middle Easterners, and soul crushing commie Asians.

If you don't like it here, leave. just get the fuck out.  I won't stop you and I'll pay for it with my taxes, but just go and take your shitty idiotologies with you.

...and use deodorant.

Love, Raymond K Hessel, DVM

And yes I up arrowed myself, motherfucker!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:48 | 5151800 saveUSsavers
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DVM? WTFIT? anyone got the answer?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:02 | 5152060 TungstenBars
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Clearly he's a child so it doesn't matter.


I mean links to video games wtf...must be some 17 year old who is still fucked from many years of conditioning. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:14 | 5152096 Kirk2NCC1701
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DVM = Dr of Veter. Med.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:46 | 5152215 August
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Large animal, or small animal?

This is the key.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:52 | 5152247 Ralph Spoilsport
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He's sort of a veterinarian. He's a psychiatrist for dogs and a lifeguard in a car wash when things are slow.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 09:45 | 5153418 InvalidID
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 You talking about me or the linked article? I've been here longer than you by a few years....

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:04 | 5151863 Escrava Isaura
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Raymond K Hessel

You wrote: “The world's problems are solved when you emigrate to the US.”

How so?

Do you mean by sending dollars abroad?

Aren’t immigrants that send money back home a form of 'contributor to' imperialism?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:10 | 5151904 Raymond K Hessel
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If you lived in America you would know exactly what I meant.

Instead you are either chained to your computer in some Chinese Army base or working for Igor at the Internet Research Agency.

You would know why people leave their homes for America and experience for yourself an increase in your standard of living.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:16 | 5151917 Escrava Isaura
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First, I live in DC.

Second, isn’t that increase because of the dollar being the reserve currency?

Or do you mean something else?

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 04:28 | 5152833 Memedada
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I live in Denmark. If I were to move to USA that would mean:

1.    Lower wages (for the same work) – even after tax


2.    Lesser and more expensive access (in Denmark ALL health-care is free – for the person who unfortunately needs it) to inferior health-care

3.    An expensive, indoctrinating and (to secular minds) over-religious education system (in Denmark it’s only your skill that determines if you can get an education or not – there’s no tuition)

4.    Risk of being arbitrarily thrown in jail for minor offences (many not being offences in Denmark) – or arbitrarily shot down by your ‘police/domestic military’-force

5.    Being excessively monitored and spied on

6.    No independent medias (all owned by or serving the fascist state and its cohorts)

7.    Risk of being a (justifiable) victim of terrorism (false-flags and logical responses to USA’s aggressive foreign policies – its many wars (both covert and those in the open)

8.    Living in a dystopian scene of what hyper-capitalism does to a society – the ‘aesthetics’ (or lack of) of capitalism (the sea of billboards advertising junk, chains of junk-food vendors, concrete oceans/roads (no relevant public alternatives in most areas) and so on)

9.    No democratic alternatives and a broken down political system (= a political system subjugated by the financial elite/the oligarchs). And no left-wing parties or organizations (all have been – alt the way back in the 50’s, which might explain why so few US-based ZH’ers understand what left-wing politics is about) dismantled as part of the corporate coup

10. Debt enough for the next 100+ generations to be enslaved by

11. Less social mobility (being born poor in USA is almost certain a guarantee to die poor too – in Denmark there’s much more social mobility because there’re many more possibilities for the poor – se ad 1, 2 and 3 above). Quite a paradox that ‘the American dream’ is more alive in a (semi)social-democratic society like Denmark than in USA itself.

The list of the ‘merits’ connected with moving to USA could go on and on…



Thu, 08/28/2014 - 07:11 | 5152964 Escrava Isaura
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You did a great job, I believe, exposing some of the truths about America.

Not that I need to remind you, but it’s very hard to break through when the prevailing assumptions are based in meaningless clichés and downright repeated stupidity.

Anyway, thanks for the post. And I think you should repost it, when necessary.


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 08:06 | 5153095 old naughty
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"should repost it..."

ditto X 3.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:58 | 5152260 deKevelioc
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Don't travel much, do you?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:15 | 5151899 Kirk2NCC1701
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True.  Some problems just can't be solved, as she knows herself.  E.g. Merkel's Greek dance Koulouri

Seriously though, this BBC documentary does a decent job of telling us the story of Angela Merkel.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:33 | 5150310 Jack Burton
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"Latina Lover", What do you think has made her flip? She is coming around to seeing the damage the US is doing to Europe in the name of containment of Russia and Kiev's revolution. What may have made her see the light now? I am not sure what has moved her to become sane all of a sudden?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:50 | 5150474 Latina Lover
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Jack Burton,  I am not sure but per certain russian blogs it seems that Putin gave Merkel the choice of pulling back their Ukrainian cur or facing even greater european destabilization due to risks of energy shortages, ongoing sanctions etc. The EU economy is in deep trouble, and if Germany falters, then it is game over. Germany is a client state of the USSA, but owes its ultimate loyalty to the EU. And without russian gas, Germany grinds to a halt.

Further, as you already know, the Ukies have been stealing Russian gas for decades, estimated in the tens of billions,  and the Russians are frankly sick of it. 

Moreover, violence directed against the Donbass, coupled with threats, insults, the MH17 false flag have so infuriated the Russian nationalists, that they are demanding that the Ukraine govenrnment be choked to death via denial of Nat Gas, Coal etc. Putin may have to do this to placate his nationalists opponents, who would happily turn Kiev into a parking lot.

  Porkyshenko overplayed a bad hand at the behest of the USSA, and he is about to be dealt out of the game, and sent to his spiritual home, Israel.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:59 | 5151626 centerline
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Lots of history here.  Predates the US even.  EU is at the edge of the cliff.  Merkel has her tits in the wringer.  She is going to walk the line here as best as possible.  No other option really.  Someone else has to be the first to shit the bed.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:00 | 5151635 James_Cole
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Germany is a client state of the USSA, but owes its ultimate loyalty to the EU. And without russian gas, Germany grinds to a halt.

No not really I don't think. Europe is ultimately a competitor of the USSA and their relationship for the past couple decades has mostly been as frenemies. Not to mention US&A stuffing europe with a whole shittonne of toxic debt. 

Germany (and a lot of europe) has tended lately to have more common interests with russia than US. 

US&A is almost an afterthought on much of german tv coverage too.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:06 | 5151874 JuliaS
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By controling the flow of spice Putin essentially gets to call elections across the EU. He can remove a politician simply by stepping on a hose and creating unfavorable economic conditions. Merkel has been on shaky ground more than once. Could've lost her spot already if it weren't for Russian selective generosity. All Putin had to do was remind her of that.

And as it's been repeated many times - winter is slowly approaching. You'll find many more Western politicians loosen up as things progress, else next time around they won't be lying about cold snaps  affecting the GDP.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:32 | 5151964 Escrava Isaura
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Merkel grew up in East German. Speaks Russian.

Germany is an industrial power. US is a financial power. Both deals are about to collapse.

Ukraine is small rent for the West, but major distraction and expense for Russia, especial in a war.

Iran is the real deal. US has some Saudi oil and its oil-rent income.

US has Iraq oil stored underground for later on (when TSHTF).

US has lots of leverage, but lives way beyond its means. Not an easy problem to solve without igniting a civil war.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:18 | 5152069 JuliaS
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The saddest thing in this conflict is that Ukraine is broken beyond repair and even if all hypothetical paths are explored - nobody wants it. EU does not want the west where NATO trained Junta is segregated. They don't want Nazi's spilling over into their lands, like ISIS out of Syria. Those are real terrorists that will set fire to buildings and shoot people simply because they're pissed.

Russia wouldn't want to have any presense there either - not after Odessa. Ukraine cleansed itself of all the reminders of former association with USSR? Fine! You can keep your concrete pieces of Lenin's statures. Eat them if you like!

Russia will not do business with those people. Whatever land comes into Russian possession after the crisis will be used to rout shorter gas pipelines around the rest of Ukraine towards EU states the oligarchs still buy things from. Western Ukraine will get to keep its agriculture and its currency to barely remain afloat.

But when you unravel all the things like that, you understand why a new world war is almost inevitable. You see the certain disintegration of NATO, EU, IMF, the petrodollar. You see Russia taking over and that will not be allowed to happen. Germany was in a position to establish direct, no middle-men trade with Saudi Arabia. It united the entire world against it. Everyone rushed in to prevent the outcome and Germany lost.

Germany had a major weekness - no access to oil required to run the industrial machine. Russia has everything it needs and then some. So, only a direct invasion will do. An actual attack. Do now, find excuses and tweak history books later.

China's being coordinated into a controlled economic implosion also. It's being timed, as it would otherwise provide a critical ally to the neighbor. The West is waiting for China to go out of commission even if only temporarily. Just long enough to have a chance wrestling the bear to the gound. China wants land. The West hopes it can maybe persuade them to take chunks out of Russia East of Ural - open an 2nd front, but under no condition allow China to keep the gainst. The plan, most likely, is to wait for China to cough, poke Russia, persuade China to switch sides, open a second front, move in wiping out Western resistance and then neuter China by perhaps dropping a few nukes Chengdu to Beijing. It worked in Japan, didn't it?!

US hopes entire action will be segregated in Eurasia just like the last time. It made a huge mistake reveaing its hand - highlighting its involvement and making itself a primary target. At this point it's panic mode. They don't give an ass about secrecy, about hypocricy. They know what they want and it's now or never moment. Their hate glows with the power of thousand suns. If they drop bombs, the first dozen will be aimed straight for Putin's shiny head. They will not care about it being justified. The state department will not go on television with a hour-long press release. Obama will not read a passage out of a teleprompter. He will tweet: "Fuck it!"  and off we go into chaos, moving another step closer to Einstein's sticks and stones prophecy.

Meanwhile, Germany will express its one remaining regret - dismantling the Berin Wall that could've perhaps shielded at least a dozen people from a nuclear blast.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:48 | 5152550 CrazyCooter
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I have felt for quite some time that Germany will simply partner up with Russia. In many ways, they are a strong match (e.g. German industrial base and Russian natural resources). Folks quickly forget the deep history between Germany and Russia.

Germany has already done financially what it tried twice to do militarily; subjigate Europe.

If Russia steps in and partners, Germany might hold onto what they have and Europe will pivot East.

THAT Is what the white house and its handlers are in a panic about.

I do agree it ends a big war, but I have a hard time figuring out who the teams are...



Thu, 08/28/2014 - 10:30 | 5153559 gcjohns1971
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"Folks quickly forget the deep history between Germany and Russia."

Do you mean Koenigsberg... ahem... Kaliningrad?  Where almost the entire population of a German city was butchered, and then displaced by imported Russians?

But of course that is too recent to be 'deep history'.

Maybe you mean the 'Triple Alliance' Germany made specifically against Russia during WWI?

Or do you mean the mennonites in Danzig and Vistula?  The ones that were forcibly, violently, driven out from 1860 to 1914...and ended up in Pennsylvania?

Or do you mean the 'Dual Alliance' of Germany and Austro-Hungary against Russia of 1879?

Or do you mean the strategic exclusion of Prussia (which became Germany) from the 'Concert of Europe' at Russian request in 1815?

Or do you mean the 'Seven-Years War' between Prussia (which became Germany) and Russia in the 1760's?

Or do you mean the 'War of Austrian Succession' where Prussia and Russia fought during the 1740's? 


There is a 'deep history between German and Russia'.  

But it seems to be the opposite of what you imply.


On the other hand, the majority of white Americans are the descendants of Germans.

If you take a whole bunch of Englishmen and Germans and put then in a wild continent, without its own governance or laws, and with few permanent native settlements - what you get is America.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 07:20 | 5152977 Escrava Isaura
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Wish I had time to go into what you wrote.

Anyway, love when you said "China's being coordinated into a controlled economic implosion also. It's being timed,..."

Not sure about timed.

The (world) Titanic is taking water, the dollars (US military) thinks it has a lifesaver by controlling Middle East and Pacific Ocean traffic.

However, US population is fucked beyond any chance, besides taking from Canada.

Interesting 'horrible' times ahead.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:32 | 5151975 williambanzai7
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EU Weather Forecast: Vlad Weather coming...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:39 | 5152522 palmereldritch
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How about a Breaking Vlad series.?...Putin is the Heisenberg of geopolitics lately...not to mention he knows how to deal with Nazis....


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:22 | 5151944 The_Prisoner
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Merkel is fucked.

If she appears to be schizophrenic and talking from the both sides of her mouth is because she know whatever side she takes Germany is fucked.

If she sides with the US/Nato Russia shuts off the gas and Germany starves. If she sides with Russia, US/NATO will take her scalp.

So she is trying to sit on the fence and hope this thing sorts itself out.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:42 | 5152003 Escrava Isaura
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The prisioner,

Does talking to her base ring a bell?

She's just talking her talk-points!


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:07 | 5152082 The_Prisoner
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Talking to her base was the Gold Repatriation story. Massive bait-and-switch.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:36 | 5152171 Dublinmick
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Porky over played a bad hand dealt by the pyramid of which the USA is only the mercenaries and cannon fodder covering up for the crown heads. The US has no treasury, the IMF is the treasury.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:31 | 5152613 Freddie
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A few weeks ago, Dr. Jim Willie said he heard weird stories that Merkel might step down. He said it was weird because she was fairly recently re-elected.

Jim has this The Voice connections who sounds like an old German or Swiss guy who knows the gold market very well and is connected.  He tells Jim about Chinese gold purchases, the criminal activity in London and theft of Saudi gold.  Supposedly this old guy has seen Russia's gold and supposedly it is the biggest in the world by far.

Putin supposedly was behind the Wesern Ukrainian commander stepping down. Sterlkov.  Very honorable and a Russian nationalist and anti-Leninist.  One of the White Army types. Putin was either concerned this man may become to popular in Russia orhe wanted a more Ukie face on the commanders in Western Ukraine.

So Merkel is under tons of pressure. The criminal junta in Kiev probably is.  Porky should be sent to the gallows with Yats and the rest.   Putin has a little pressure.  Obama and the criminal US govt will just go on their merry way.  Liberals will support him til the end.  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:11 | 5151404 schadenfreude
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She doesn't see the light now.

It's quite obvious that Europe doesn't want to have a conflict with Russia. Ukraine was never part of EU, it was always seen as a part of Russia. There wasn't a revolution to disband from USSR, as it was in other countries, after USSR collapsed. EU tried to reach a solution right before the Maidan killings, but "Fuck Europe" Nuland followed her agenda, which started this shit. EU and even more Germany are not free to make their own decisions without consent of USA. Now, after USA manouvered the situation into a lose-lose situation for all involved parties, Germany is allowed to find a solution.

Merkel is just doing "Realpoiltik". If this means a division of Ukraine, so be it. Ukraine was an artificial construct in the first place. But to bully Russia because of Ukraine is stupid. They have some severe interest, so why doing it?




Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:04 | 5151866 disabledvet
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Von Ribbentrop Redux bitchez! "Just get over it Ostlander...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:18 | 5152107 Dublinmick
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Merkel is mildly retarded she doesn't make any decisions.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:18 | 5152495 disabledvet
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It's a Von Ribbon Trope now...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:24 | 5152126 The_Prisoner
Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:18 | 5152499 disabledvet
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Or maybe some Von Ribbon tripe...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:03 | 5152454 Freddie
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Lufthansa is the only Boeing customers that does not have ground remote control.  So if you fly Lufthansa - the chances of you becoming fish food off of Diego Garcia are pretty low.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:00 | 5149704 nope-1004
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When Germany makes the flip formal and public, then it really starts.  At that point y'all better pay attention to PM's.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:02 | 5149711 Latina Lover
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Looks like Jim Willie was right all along...



Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:25 | 5149853 J Pancreas
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I found Jim Willie via DCRB who quoted/linked a few articles on here in the comments and was hooked. Willie seems eccentric but its rediculous how correct he has been as this collapse unfolds. +1

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:28 | 5149875 Canadian Dirtlump
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He's been way wrong headed on some of his ISIS type shit otherwise I love him. I love when he casually slips in things like a base on the dark side of the moon as established facts.



Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:04 | 5150074 greatbeard
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Willie is to gold bugs what Fox is to wingnuts.  Great entertainment, but come on.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:06 | 5150087 swmnguy
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Jim Willie is a nut.  His nuttiness actually reinforces my appreciation for what he's good at.  He's incredibly tuned in to the ongoing collapse of the global finance system.  Over the past 8 years or so since I started reading his stuff, he's been off on timing a little bit, but who hasn't.  The general pattern and trend he's had cold.  Most people I've encountered who have an almost otherworldly grasp on one topic tend to be completely bonkers on something else. Once I discover their "King Charles' Head" fixation, I'm reassured as to their genius on their main topic.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:06 | 5150577 atomicwasted
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Precisely.  Tune out the things he says that aren't related to finance/PMs but focus on his track record in those areas.  He's been 100% spot on for years.  Go back and look at his archives, and see that he was writing 2, 3, 4, years ago about things that are happening today.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:03 | 5149718 101 years and c...
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stupid bitch. if the US wasnt printing money and buying all your continent's junk debt (shhhhh, we're not supposed to know this), your depression would be much worse. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:16 | 5149791 Canadian Dirtlump
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the Western ( not wester *wink* ) bankers engineered the calamity that is the EU so yeah..

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:05 | 5150569 JRobby
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And the news portion of this "statement"?????

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:06 | 5151430 schadenfreude
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Stupid idiot. Let the fucking monetary system collapse and afterwards we'll find out out which country offers something valuable to trade. Facebook, Google, Apple and Mc Donalds have no intrinsic value.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:15 | 5152566 palmereldritch
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 Facebook, Google, Apple and Mc Donalds have no intrinsic value.

You didn't think it would be somaTM brand soma did you?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:21 | 5152116 Dublinmick
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No the printing of fiat money is ordered from London where Rothschild families own the non federal federal reserve and also supervises the printing of German money. Orders come down from the top of the pyramid which is the vatican. This beliefs in sovereignty are almost child like.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:07 | 5149749 Canadian Dirtlump
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Amen twin turbo timmy. You are seeing these glitches in the matrix more and more. We listen to Jim Willie hysterically talk about germany switching sides, and so they should.. The conspiracies we would think about and talk about in private, much to even often our own surprise are playing out which has one nervously looking around their office and saying "I figured I was right but holy fuck I'm right."


Weeks? Months? Who knows. Years? I doubt it. The days of buying PMS and a generator, and some food, and a water bob, and a water filter were sort of fun. Getting to the point where they are going to be used? Less fun - but that was never the point I guess.


The threat of military violence is what has held this together all along and a war is a great way to get a scapegoat to blame the collapse on.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:13 | 5149783 NOTaREALmerican
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I'm not sure why you need all "the stuff" if there's going to be a war tho.

War will cause all the dumbass males to "gather round the (slow-motion) flag" and march-off to meet the enemy (meaning away from you).    You won't need any of "your stuff". 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:55 | 5149939 espirit
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Better check the Wiki def of self assured destruction.

It's a No-Win for everyone.  Maybe they'll find our final history written in the Space Station.

Edit: Orbit to degrade and re-enter.  Maybe the next most intelligent species will dig up in 500 Million years, give or take.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:54 | 5150015 Canadian Dirtlump
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I'm prepared for a month or 2. Not for a mad max scenario. That type of planning is prudent.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:09 | 5150120 espirit
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Have a plan for 6 months, basic survival instinct.

If you're still alive then, we'll talk.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 16:02 | 5150915 MalteseFalcon
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I just screened 'Mad Max' so I'm ready.  Shotgun shells, gasoline and dog food.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 17:18 | 5151254 jfoles
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what type dog food do you like...  iams or science diet?   high protein...  flavor??

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:04 | 5151652 centerline
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ha ha.  All I can think of here is lots of #10 cans of brown gravy mix... with which - go for the protein.  ha ha

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:22 | 5152118 Dublinmick
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You can eat grass, cows thrive on it.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:01 | 5151643 centerline
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Agree.  Never hurts to be a boy scout.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 09:55 | 5153456 gcjohns1971
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You need to plan exactly the way that average people planned two generations ago, a century ago, a millenium ago, and ten millenia ago.

You need to plan to get from the date of the disaster, through the winter, and on to the next harvest.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:03 | 5149722 ilion
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Don't believe what Merkel says. (s)He is just another b.tch who likes to be pounded by Obummer & Co.

Which country has military bases in Germany?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:11 | 5149765 PartysOver
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"Which country has military bases in Germany?"   With the current trend the Q might be "Which country HAD  military bases in Germany?" 

Is Merkel wanting some of that Obama Biatch Slap action?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:14 | 5149789 Sandmann
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Without Germany the US is peripheral to world affairs which is why it is trying to destroy Russia. Mackinder Plan

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:19 | 5151490 schadenfreude
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Do you have a source for a Mackinder Plan?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:36 | 5149918 tonyw
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Which is the only country that has military bases in more than a handful of countries.

there fixed it for ya :-)


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:44 | 5149967 SumTing Wong
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And which country is going to take back those bases as the country fails to hand over the gold to that one?

Shit, even I'm confusing myself by writing this.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:47 | 5150102 Oil_City_News
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 ALERT -For The First Time Ever In American History, A Foreign Commander has been placed in charge of American forces

A German Army brigadier general who recently served with NATO forces in Afghanistan is assuming duties as the chief of staff of U. S. Army Europe, the first time a non-American officer has held that position.

Army sources in Europe said the first-ever assignment of a German general to the USAREUR staff is unrelated to the political furor over the spying revelations, but does reflect the increased importance of multinational operations in NATO.

Brig. Gen. Markus Laubenthal, most recently the commander of Germany’s 12th Panzer Brigade in Amberg, and chief of staff of Regional Command North, International Security Assistance Force Afghanistan, will be stationed at USAREUR headquarters, Wiesbaden, Germany. He could report to duty as early as Monday.

Laubenthal also has served as military assistant to the deputy commander of operations and assistant chief of staff of operations for NATO forces in Kosovo. … 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 18:48 | 5151596 JohninMK
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That's only a one star general, yawn.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:15 | 5152486 Freddie
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Not totally true.   The USA's nuclear weapons are commanded and controlled by a dual citizen.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:04 | 5149731 Carl Spackler
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Winter is coming.

Must have been the first 5 degree celsius night in Berlin since April.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:15 | 5149793 Raymond K Hessel
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5 degree celsius?

Is that like fifth degree black belt or tenth degree Mason? 

What the fuck is a celsius?!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:21 | 5149824 Al Huxley
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That's the same as about 45 in American.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:30 | 5151728 Raymond K Hessel
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Even though it's called British Standard, I do agree with the sentiment that's American.

Fuck the metric system.

Fuck the metric system in its perfumed asshole!!!

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:09 | 5152657 ThirdWorldDude
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"In metric, one millilier of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade - which is one percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it.

Whereas in the American system, the answer to 'How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?' is 'Go fuck yourself!' because you can't directly relate any of those quantities..."

an excerpt from "Wild Thing: A Novel"

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:38 | 5149932 ThirdWorldDude
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Raymond, you're fuckin' exceptional!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:41 | 5149951 espirit
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About the same in Minot.

Wake up call at 3am, ready or not!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:36 | 5150357 gallistic
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It is a unit of measure used by everyone in the world, except the "exceptional" people.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:34 | 5151749 PhilofOz
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Well the exceptionals do have two friends on the planet that are also a bit slow to convert to the metric system, Liberia and Burma. Do they think the average IQ of the zombies there is too low to be ever able to change over?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:07 | 5150589 JRobby
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It is the bait used in an imbecile trap...............

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:35 | 5150731 Kirk2NCC1701
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Spock says to tell you that it's 278.15 degree Kelvin.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 15:34 | 5150732 silverserfer
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nobody cares about grammatical errors on ZH except dill-holes. Type away and dont give a fuck. Better to make a witty comment with a grammitcal error than be a grammer troll 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:42 | 5152628 Freddie
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What most Americans do not realize is that much of Europe is pretty far north compared to America. 

Northern Italy is about where north Florida or GA is.  I would guess Berlin is about where NH is. 

Avg Lows in Kiev:

Aug 52  F

Sept 44

October 35

Nov 28

Dec  19

Jan 17

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:34 | 5149908 Antifaschistische
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'America makes most of the world's problems"


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 13:44 | 5149964 espirit
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We make Freedum Fiat don't we?

Worked for awhile anyway, until it didn't.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 14:47 | 5150440 Berspankme
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Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:25 | 5151707 auntiesocial
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so many things I could say. I much as I despise Bush & friends enriching themselves and handing Obama a shit sandwich, he has had ample time to turn things around. Instead he is spending our way into hell, double the national debt and forcing poor people to pay a 1000.00 + kicker to not enrich the health insurance industry on our taxes. 

insert hope and change jokes here. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:07 | 5152467 luckystars
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America can't solve it's own problems.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:47 | 5152632 Lynn Trainor
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We used to help solve a lot of the world's problems, but now we are often the problem.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:26 | 5152794 Memedada
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Name one problem '"you" used to solve'?

And no, WWII was not 'solved' by US, but rather co-created (the Bush-family actually played a small role in this) the Nazis and the state-capitalists (Stalin).


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:06 | 5152741 Bloppy
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Obama-supporting journalist on gun range instructor death: ‘Is the 9yo going to the funeral of the guy she killed?’


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:22 | 5152793 Memedada
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True, solving problems doesn’t make fiat (and for sure not money) in our contemporary economic system. Creating them – especially the big ones (Wars being a good example) on the other hand make a lot of fiat (for the oligarchs).

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