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Militarized Schooling? "Newtown Was A Nuclear Bomb That Changed Everything"

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The following sign on the grass in front of a Texas school sums up where we are with the militarization of education in America.


As WSJ reports, public schools nationwide are greeting students for the fall term with a host of new security measures including adding armed guards, giving guns to employees, installing perimeter fencing, and bulletproof glass. "It's kind of the way of the world, unfortunately," notes one parent, but bulking up on security has led some parents and experts to question how it affects students. The idea of "hardening" schools against intruders took on urgency after Dec 2012: "Newtown was a nuclear bomb that changed the whole landscape of everything."



"The reality is that we do have to be careful, and the children have to be aware of it, too," she said. "It's kind of the way of the world, unfortunately."

But, as WSJ reports, bulking up on security has led some parents and experts to question how it affects students.

"We would like greater attention to the psychological safety measures," said Stephen Brock, president of the National Association of School Psychologists. "They need to not just be safe at school but also feel safe at school."

From a percentage standpoint, schools remain a safe place for children.

A joint report by the U.S. Education Department and Justice Department released in June found that less than 2% of youth homicides occurred at schools between the 1992-93 and 2010-11 school years.

Yet a stream of violent incidents at schools since Sandy Hook has added to the concern about school security, with preliminary estimates from the joint report saying there were at least 17 school-associated violent deaths in the 11 months after the December 2012 shooting.




The idea of "hardening" schools against intruders took on urgency after the December 2012 killing of 20 children and six educators in Newtown, Conn., with districts considering a variety of measures, from adding armed guards or giving guns to employees to installing perimeter fencing and bulletproof glass.


"Newtown was a nuclear bomb that changed the whole landscape of everything just because of the magnitude of it," said Jamie Grime, superintendent of Montpelier Exempted Village Schools in northwestern Ohio. "Security has always been an issue, but maybe not a huge issue. Now it is."

This will end well...

Returning students at Hillsborough County Public Schools in Tampa, Fla. found 20 new armed officers in the elementary schools in the first year of a plan costing about $1 million.


The school board also approved security training for employees, the hiring of a safety consultant and more measures to control school access, such as fencing and buzzers.


Meanwhile, all 16 schools in the Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, public school district have been enclosed in security fencing and each school limits visitors to a single entry point, officials said. This September, for the first time, two police officers will patrol elementary schools, at a cost of roughly $68,000 from the district's state funding.


...officials continue to allow four anonymous employees to carry firearms on school property. Bulletproof glass and panic buttons have been installed, and officials held schoolwide assemblies for security training.

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Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:29 | 5151721 Buckaroo Banzai
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Anyone who sends their kids to public schools is an irresponsible parent.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:31 | 5151734 quasimodo
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I would agree somewhat with that statement, however not everyone can afford a private school.......not that it's the answer to all the maladies with public ed

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:34 | 5151746 gmrpeabody
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I suppose these will be the same types they put in the airports to protect us.

Just saying....

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:46 | 5151790 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Just thinking ahead by preparing them for prison life.

Seriously, maybe it's time to give up on mandatory schooling, at least after age 12.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:57 | 5151835 CH1
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Fuck government schools.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:17 | 5151927 Chupacabra-322
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Fuck the Government Indoctrination Centers.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:05 | 5152062 sleigher
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I agree on the gov indoctrination centers.  I unfortunately being a single parent cannot afford private school.  Do not have the time (work) for home schooling.  I would gladly and in an instant take my kids out of public school, as soon as there is an alternative for a person in my position.  Anyone?  It is easy to knock things and say people are stupid for doing it.  I have yet to see a viable alternative.

Edit: I do spend a considerable amount of time undoing their indoctrination.  Making sure what they are learning is correct and not some liberal slant.  Ensuring they question the lessons and what they are being taught.  To always consider the other side and to think critically about what is being fed to them. It is amazong some of the crap they come home with.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:11 | 5152095 Stackers
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Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:15 | 5152103 rehypothecator
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Declaring that rights won't be abrogated in a particular location hardly amounts to a militarization of that location.  People can carry guns on many sidewalks, but that doesn't make the sidewalks militarized.  (Note: do not take this as a general endorsement of government schools.)  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:36 | 5152173 SafelyGraze
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paw-paw told me that I could probably be homeschooled this year

but he and maw-maw have re-entered the workforce as walmart greeters, so I would have to do an online self-paced thing here in the basement

which would probably just devolve to reading zh and following the links

the links in the ads


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:57 | 5152772 Drunk In Church
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Only the cops should have guns.  The citizenry can't be trusted with firearms.  When will the government wake up.  It's time to start cracking down on Joe Six Pack.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:06 | 5152781 Confused
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Carrying the guns is not what makes it militarized. Schools are, in a sense, a camp that is now guarded with limited entry and exit points. 

I choose to walk on the sidewalk. Children do not have the choice to attend school. 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 16:10 | 5155506 JRev
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Teachers = Government payrolled brainwashers.

Schools = Government indoctrination centers replicating prison life

Schools where only teachers are armed = FILL IN THE FUCKING BLANKS.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:42 | 5152202 sleigher
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There won't be a costco by the time they would have entered the workforce.  Unless it is some stronghold by the local militia.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:39 | 5152896 Frankie Carbone
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"Not Sure" also went to a public school but with his perfectly average 100 IQ he was in all the advanced placement classes, like Basic Algebra and Reading Comprehension in 12th grade. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:17 | 5152320 A Nanny Moose
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You cannot afford private or home schooling, because of monopoly gurantees by gubmint, to the pewblik skewls.

"Education is the kindling of a flame, not the filling of a vessel" - Socrates Johnson

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:47 | 5152620 benb
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According to school security consultant/expert Wolfgang Halbig two websites for major charities to commemorate the 'victims' of the Sandy Hook shootings and to collect donations, were up and online a full two days before the supposed shootings occurred. The whole thing was staged. It was all bullshit to attack your 2nd amendment rights. Why isn't anyone talking about that?

Research it. -

9-11 changed everything too... remember that staged bullshit?


The posts at this site continue to disappoint.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:19 | 5152674 RichardParker
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Hopefully your kids weren't being taught to sing songs about our beloved leader.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 16:00 | 5155439 JRev
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There very much is. It's called unschooling. It'll require a significant amount of time and effort on your part, but it's entirely feasible for anyone. I know parents who work two jobs each and manage to unschool their children; it's hard, but you owe it to them to at least try.

It's commendable that you take time to undo the improper knowledge that school levies upon children, but there are things about the Prussian system of education that can never be undone. The heirarchical caste-based structure that kids are forced into to "prepare" them for society, the deference to authority figures in order to succeed, a willingness to follow orders to avoid punishment, adhering to social norms so as not to be bullied... these are unavoidable and traumatic psychological inevitabilities of school. Why do you think people have nightmares about their school days well into their later years? :P

“Children learn what they live. Put kids in a class and they will live out their lives in an invisible cage, isolated from their chance at community; interrupt kids with bells and horns all the time and they will learn that nothing is important or worth finishing; ridicule them and they will retreat from human association; shame them and they will find a hundred ways to get even. The habits taught in large-scale organizations are deadly.”
-John Taylor Gatto


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 08:04 | 5153090 Newbie-Plus
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I get all the anti gov-school sentiment...but we have to realize the flip side as well.  As bad as many schools are, there are many more sets of parents completely unprepared to teach their children anything to prepare them for the future.  I'm all for the parents having the decision to make that choice, and I completely support parents right, and do not think any type of "test" should be imposed...but I've seen some kids get totally screwed up from home school as well.  I've seen parents who weren't smart enough to get through the material past about 3rd grade level.  I've seen parents who can't figure out how to find answers when the kid has them.  I've seen kids who "graduate" a state's home schooling program and couldn't get through 8th grade coursework taught in a school.  

The school system is definitely broken, but pushing everyone to homeschool is like pushing everyone to own a gun.  It should be everyone's choice...but it isn't the right choice for everyone.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 15:44 | 5155247 JRev
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Freedom of choice is paramount, sure, but those failed "home schooling" attempts are probably enacted by either a) Parents who were themselves a product of public schools, or b) Parents who tried to replicate, as opposed to eliminate, traditional government schooling. How could one do anything else if that's all they know?

Point is, this all leads back to the slow, steady retardation that the Prussian system of education breeds. At some point, just like the economic mass that's barreling down on Western society, this problem will HAVE to be dealt with. It will be ugly. That's the result of serially abusing children for nearly 100 years now; not sure if I believe in karma, but I do believe in physics. The inertia of public indoctrination must be stopped, but it cannot be halted without casualties.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:33 | 5151747 Supernova Born
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Armed school employees are fine with me.

Defenselessness is never a solution. Children being murdered without a fight is an abomination.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:36 | 5151759 SHEEPFUKKER

By children, you mean 17 and under? Not the 18 year olds being murdered overseas right?

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:05 | 5151770 Supernova Born
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What are you talking about? Nothing I said had jack to do with dismissing the deaths of children anywhere.



Hickok45 on YouTube was a school teacher.

Check out how that ole Tennessee school teacher can shoot.


Thu, 08/28/2014 - 16:08 | 5155280 JRev
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Hickok45, for his bredth of knowledge about firearms, is also a flag-waving dupe who's too propagandized to acknowledge the true nature of the tyranny around him. I love the old guy, and I'd happily have him by my side at a dinner table or a gun fight, but his geopolitical and historical musings are about as worthwhile to me as the shit-stained rags I flush down the toilet twice a day.

Teachers are being turned into prison guards. If that much isn't abundantly clear to you, I don't know what else to say. Just you wait; perhaps there will be triumphant tales of armed teachers defending classrooms at life and limb, but sooner or later, the situation will devolve into teachers "defending" themselves and State property from the increasingly "violent" youth. And why wouldn't they be violent? They're being dumbed down at an ever-increasing rate and treated like cattle. Problem, reaction, solution, remember? This solution, like all the others brought about by Hegelianism, will end poorly for Joe Six Pack.

John Gatto, America's PREMIER educator, on Columbine as an INEVITABLE result of public schooling:

...or as I like to call it, quit swatting branches and hack at the root of the problem.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:04 | 5151865 SuperRay
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I work with a woman who has a military family.  Her husband was in Iraq, her sons are in the reserves.  She told me the other day that her youngest is eager to go to Iraq and fight against ISIS.  I've tried to talk to her about the total corruption driving the deaths of these kids, but she's totally committed to the military mentality.   Her son's death, if it happens, will change nothing for her.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:05 | 5152576 Freddie
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So her kids are fighting and maybe dying for Obama and the bankers?  Dumb sheep.   Amazing that if you talk to anyone who was over there with a brain - they will tell you it was total BS.  People who were in Afghan talk about patrols where See Eye Aye is protecting the poppy fields.

I have no sympathy for her if she loses her kid after you tried to tell her. 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 16:23 | 5155561 JRev
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Empire only ends when there's no one left to fight; either people change their minds, or these morally backwards dimwits keep sending their loved ones into the meat grinder until we're all broke. I can only listen to so many stories like yours before I come to the conclusion that the first option is a virtual impossibility at this point.

I weep not for dead mercernaries on either side.

"War isn't hell at all. It's man at his best; the highest morality he's capable of. It's not war that's insane, you see. It's the morality of it. It's not greed or ambition that makes war: it's goodness. Wars are always fought for the best of reasons: for liberation or manifest destiny. Always against tyranny and always in the interest of humanity. So far this war, we've managed to butcher some ten million humans in the interest of humanity. Next war it seems we'll have to destroy all of man in order to preserve his damn dignity. It's not war that's unnatural to us, it's virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved."
-Charlie Madison, The Americanization of Emily

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:54 | 5151826 luckystars
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Military school comes to mind

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:22 | 5151885 nmewn
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Because gun free kill zones are better?


And on that point, I can tell you with metaphysical certitude that, guns are (and have been) on my sons high school campus (though "illegal) for years. Thereby making fully three quarters of the graduates (by virtue of that fact) "felons", though never charged but they did break "the law" and they knew it when they did it and still do it.

Yet, no one has ever been shot.

Remarkable restraint from the yout's, yes? ;-)


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:51 | 5152027 boattrash
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nmewn, Well put. I'm in my late 40's, but in my H.S. days, Aprox 1/2 of the vehicles in the parking lot had rifles, shotguns, or both. (It was also the largest School District in the state, by area). Oddly enough, we never had a problem with school shootings.

PS. We did have a special guest (old Barn-Stormer type stuntman) that shot helium balloons from his motorcycle using a .22 rifle. He also blew a stick of dynamite, in a "doghouse" while his head was in it. (W/helmet, of course). What a Show on the football field!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:36 | 5152178 nmewn
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Its amazing to me how the "Coddled Class" can't control or raise their children to be normal.

I brought up squire nmewn, it was about the age of seven or eight I introduced him to firearms. He wanted to shoot my .357, so I put some .38's in it and we plinked a few.

Then I put in .357's and walked up to a pine tree and blew a hole in it and told him to come over. I said, look at that little hole and feel that bark, hard huh? He said yeah. I said, feel your arm, soft huh? He said yeah Dad.

I said now come around here to the back and look at what it did coming through & out.

I told him then & there these things can kill you or someone you love if you're careless or show no respect for them...and they can also save your life or someone you love.

He got it instantly ;-)

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:37 | 5152618 boattrash
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Well done! I've had similar sessions w/my Grandson, starting @ age 6. His level of attention to detail, and comprehension of safe handling are impressive. To date, he will check with an adult first, open the bolt to verify an empty chamber, then show adult the empty chamber.

I only wish I could get adult co-workers to soak up the basics so well...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:02 | 5152737 Leraconteur
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Wow, thanks for the memory jog.
That's right, my high school DID do just that. No religious stuff, just some guy blowing up a dog house at the 50 yard line, wearing a helmet.

Good to know it lasted another few years, I am  in my mid-50's. 

What do you think, 1984 and it went to hell? 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 10:15 | 5153509 boattrash
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"What do you think, 1984 and it went to hell?"

It's hard to put into a time frame, as I was not the most "awakened" 18 yr old.

In hind-sight, I would have to agree that it was headed down then, but has just Rapidly increased speed. How did it go from having a show like that, to some law banning firearms within 1500ft of school property (which if you look, actually includes many homes).

I'm giad you got to see that show too! (He also could throw 100 Ringers in a row).

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:40 | 5152002 Ckierst1
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Armed citizens are fine by me.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:51 | 5152023 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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Of course, instead of hardening schools against intruders hopped up on selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, we could just stop massively over-prescribing these dangerous psychotropics. But no, how much police-statey fun would that be?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:59 | 5152271 magnumpk
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I agree.  Arm teachers, or at least some of them.  While not ideal, it's better than teachers and kids being shot like animals in pens.  And while I'm at it, every time I walk into my kid's middle school I think, "this is a prison."  It looks like one, feels like one, and is operated like one.  Which is to say we are strongly considering private school, even though I've already paid for the prison.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:59 | 5152272 magnumpk
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I agree.  Arm teachers, or at least some of them.  While not ideal, it's better than teachers and kids being shot like animals in pens.  And while I'm at it, every time I walk into my kid's middle school I think, "this is a prison."  It looks like one, feels like one, and is operated like one.  Which is to say we are strongly considering private school, even though I've already paid for the prison.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:35 | 5151754 nobodyimportant
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too poor to home school?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:00 | 5151849 BlindMonkey
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Homeschool or die.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:35 | 5151967 Ckierst1
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Parochial schools are frequently better than public schools, less threatening and less expensive than private academies.  People should be able to direct their pro rata share of education tax monies to the educational institution of their choice.  I would even hold still if the state required that they be accredited, so long as they weren't dictating curriculae and indoctrination like pointy headed, goosestepping fascisti.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:28 | 5152144 Oleander
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Homeschool is as expensive as you make it. Plenty of free materials online. Private schools are not necessarily better just because they are expensive.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:07 | 5152309 A Nanny Moose
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It private school is unaffordable, it is largely due to government protected monopolies granted to pewblik skewlz. Competition reduces price. Peri-Fucking-Od!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:20 | 5152504 awakeRewe
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"however not everyone can afford a private school"

However not everyone can afford to have children


You breed em you feed em ... if you knw what I mean.



Thu, 08/28/2014 - 15:42 | 5155326 JRev
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Private schools, with the exception of the few elite East Coast high schools like Andover that serve as Ivy League training grounds, are no better than public schools. Sure, the structure might be a bit less tyrannical and industrial in nature, but who do you think prints their books? McMillan. Wiley and Sons. Simon and Schuster. The same Rockefeller/Carnegie endorsed drivel they feed kids less successfuly at their public counterparts.

The point is, if you're going to have children, make sure you can provide for them first. Provision, in my book, means making sure your children grow up to be as intelligent and unabused as possible, which means teaching and raising them yourself, as was intended. American schooling is a form of welfare for parents at the expense of kids, and it's high time people started viewing it that way.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:35 | 5151755 TrulyStupid
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Yes, best keep them in a well armed home and feed them racism,  fundamentalist Chrisitianity and paranoic "history".  Teach them the supremacy of force over freedom and prepare them for a Mcjob.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:42 | 5151772 Overfed
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Better off sending them to public school to learn dependency, helplessness, and .gov worship? Not to mention learning phony history and getting a proper fascist/socialist indoctrination.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:59 | 5151844 CH1
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Home schooling for the win!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:53 | 5151824 Duke of Earl
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Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:37 | 5151993 NoDebt
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What an appropriate screen name you have.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:56 | 5152000 papaswamp
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Paranoic?.... Mmm maybe not so much?

1400 kids raped and nothing done for fear of being called racist? Perhaps PC has neutered common sense?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:10 | 5152315 A Nanny Moose
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As oppose to feding them the religion of Statism, which still teaches them that might makes right.

Next straw-man please?

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:56 | 5152726 Leraconteur
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I see that Freedom of Speech, Association and thought do not make the rounds at your dinner table.

They are his/her kids. He gets to teach them whatever he wants, even if you disagree.

No one owns his kids, but the state definitely does not get to force values upon them, that is his choice and her choice, alone. She gets to rear her kids as she wants, and what you think, and what the state thinks, is irrelevant.

That's what freedom means - tolerating those you dislike and disagree with.

That's why his kids are not in state schools - they teach the fascism, intolerance, closed-mindedness that you display with such lack of ironic awareness.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:37 | 5151761 FreeMktFisherMN
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And don't delegate that responsibility to anyone else, either. Homeschool your kids. Raise your children in the way of the Lord, to fear Him and to truly gain wisdom, which only comes from the fear of the Lord. No surprise that as far as academic achievement, homeschoolers also are way above the rest of the crowd. 

Schools are breeding grounds for humanists, decay of family, and sexual perversion. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:05 | 5151873 Bangin7GramRocks
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Most of you dumb fucks lack the ability to teach your kids jack shit. Homeschooling is for paranoid assholes! 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:39 | 5151999 NoDebt
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Generally, people who have the motivation and commitment to undertake such a monumental task as home-schooling their children are not lacking in ability.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:12 | 5152090 Freddie
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I was in public school many years ago. I was not the best student, but things worked out.  My problem is a lack of conformity.  I do not want to be a sheep.

Anyway, I remember at the time that the administrators were semi illiterate.  They were a total joke.  A few of the teachers from the old school tried but the whole place was a total circus.

My macho latino dean felt my problem was that I was not trying to get laid.  This guy ended up going on a vacation with a female student and then he married her. He did it a second time.  The union just moved him to another school.   If I had just been chasing more puta, I would have been just fine.  My failing was not getting some girl knocked up in the 11th grade.  This guy should have been in jail as a child rapist.   Many years later, I still cannot believe this even happened and how someone my age dealt with it.   I guess at 16 to 17, I already understood irony and hypocrisy.

My guidance counselor, a woman of dark complexion and a low IQ, said I was not college material.  I doubt this woman could read at an 8th grade level.  After part time and full time jobs, hard work and sacrifice, I graduated with an undergrad and graduate degrees. My average GPA over 3.5.  During this period, I was working 30 to 50 hours a week.

I had no respect for the majority of these people in public schools and I am sure it is far far worse today.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:22 | 5152344 Bill of Rights
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So glad I'm not like most, thanks fuck face.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:06 | 5151875 SuperRay
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Humanism and Libertarianism ROCK!

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:15 | 5151920 exi1ed0ne
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I'm a humanist and homeschool.  We have a strong family with my wife of 13 years despite our nonsecular and logic based approach to education.  We also enjoyed immensely the sexual perversion in creating our children (as well as continuing perversion on a frequent basis).  I REALLY wish you nutters would stop soiling homeschooling (and religions!) name by associating it with CRAZY.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:13 | 5152589 Freddie
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What is with the hate and bitterness? I hope this is not something your teaching your children. Geez.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 09:17 | 5153314 exi1ed0ne
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We teach acceptance of all people, regardless of religion, sexual orientation, etc. so long as they don't infringe on our ability to live peacefully.  I've rejected the church militant for the church triumphant if you want to get right down to it.  God doesn't need middlemen.  Organized religion is in my experience an echo chamber filled with biggotry, hatred, and the small minded that wont accept anything other then their narrow vision on living and spirituality.

I'm not bitter, but very sad for these blind and indoctrinated people.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:50 | 5151810 enforcer92677
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I have two sons attending public school.  And we are very fortunate they go to a great school.  Why the blanket judgement calling me an irresponsible parent?  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:58 | 5151839 Stuck on Zero
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Didn't they teach you about sarcasm in public school?


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:02 | 5151858 CH1
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Government schools teach government ideas, which are brain poison.

Hopefully, you can un-teach things in the evenings, but you're better off doing it yourself.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:22 | 5152117 Freddie
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The Saudi's oil fields are dying.   They have to pump tons of sea water to keep the pressure up.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 14:17 | 5154909 enforcer92677
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Ah ok.  Yes I am constantly showing and teaching my sons to think critically and question everything they see.  To verify things and not just accept everything as "that's the way it is so it must be right."

Their mother is full of hate and poison and in dealing with her, (and the hateful things she says about me to them) they have already developed a healthy sense of skepticism.  I have learned to go the extra mile and show them my proof and not just tell them, "Because I said so."

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:03 | 5151861 BlindMonkey
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8th grader told me today that they made a poster of what school should look like in Language Arts.  She is in honors class.  Let that sink in fellas.  (For the record, my ex's unwillingness to homeschool was part of the end of the marriage.  I made the money and she sat on her ass.)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:41 | 5152196 palmereldritch
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Good background on the prevalent mind control and deliberately dumbing down by design in public schools as exposed in this interview with Charlotte Iserbyt

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:59 | 5151841 ultimate warrior
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The problem is that the government has a monopoly on education. The private sector cannot fairly compete with public education sector.

The solution would be to privatize the entire education system. My idea is that anyone could basically be a teacher or maybe businesses would provide teachers to kids. The free market would dynamically change the way we think about education.

For example: maybe one teacher only teaches 15-18 year old boys how operate machinery, along with geology and math. Maybe another teacher only works with special ed kids. Maybe another teacher does everything online for 6-10 year olds with an emphasis on math, science and foreign language. The possibility's are endless and the market would determine how and what the best way to teach kids. This would give our country a huge advantage over the rest of the world and I believe the technological advancements and benefits on society would be amazing. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:05 | 5151871 CH1
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The free market would dynamically change the way we think about education.

A real free market would! Haven't seen many of those in a long while.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:21 | 5152876 hot sauce technician
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I see you're a reader of Friedman, Osterfeld and Wollstein :)  No doubt, but schooling is too good of a racket for governments to allow anyone to fairly compete with them.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:24 | 5152026 Freddie
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Go spend a day on youtube and watch all the Sandy Hoax videos.  I thought the idea was insane.  After a few hours and common sense - I knew it was a lie.  A slight boy carrying 4 hand guns killing almost 30 adults and children in less than 10 minutes with no survivors.  A cop would have been there in minutes.  Someone would have survived.

The story kept changing about 4 hand guns or an AR 15.

I have come to the conclusion that Adam Lanza, his mom and dad never existed.

The Gene Rosen overacting lies is another one. A school bus dropped 6 kids on his front lawn?  Idiocy.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:59 | 5152266 HK21E
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+1. Ridiculous inconsitencies in what was being reported and then - suddenly - all the contradictory evidence disappears from news sources all over the Internet.

Just a false flag psyop for the express purpose of pushing the anti-gun, pro-statist bullshit.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:50 | 5152715 Leraconteur
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a false flag psyop for the express purpose of pushing the anti-gun, pro-statist bullshit.


Which failed miserably and has caused a massive pro-gun backlash throughout the USA.

Yep, the illuminati/NWO/statists are perfect and manipulate everything.

If what you claimed was true, the guns would be gone. Except the opposite happened.

If another Sandy Hook happens, the same response will result.

There is no way you will get USA citizens to surrender their firearms. There could be an episode a week and you could print MSM proof they were all false flags, but those guns are not going anywhere.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:43 | 5152207 sleigher
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How many kids do you have?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:02 | 5152274 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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My son is 6 months old and home school has already started. He recognizes the words "one, two, three, four, five" and smiles every time he hears them. What kind of sick bastard waits until a child is 4 or 5 before teaching them anything academic?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:06 | 5152300 A Nanny Moose
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"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." -Frederich Bastiat

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 02:01 | 5152734 Bloppy
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Obama-supporting journalist on gun range instructor death: ‘Is the 9yo going to the funeral of the guy she killed?’

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:16 | 5152786 Sticky Wicket
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So Tyler is in favor of gun free zones? Only on ZH and youtube can this topic devolve into retards arguing over homeschool vs public/private.


You should seriously just stick to the financial news.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 09:52 | 5153441 The_Virginian
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*Compulsory schooling* is the antithesis of education. Public or private doesn't matter, both are regulated by the State and attendance is mandatory. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:29 | 5151725 lickspitler
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How's that Hope n Change thingy working out for you Merica

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:06 | 5152304 Freddie
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Pretty f**ked up eh?   Thank the retard white liberals and black people for voting for this twice. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:32 | 5151735 reader2010
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MIC needs to get Moar Profit$ from every "homeowner" in the land of the Free Profit$. Don't you understand public shcool was set up as a population control device and wealth transfer device at the time time?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:33 | 5151740 blu
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So the teachers and staff are armed. That's great! Oh but wait, what if a teacher loses his shit and starts drilling the kids for not settling down? Well then we need the kids packing heat too. For defense.

You're almost there, folks! Not long now.  Just one ... more ... nudge ...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:35 | 5151752 Grande Tetons
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LOL. We both wrote packing heat at about the same time. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:18 | 5151897 SuperRay
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Having worked in a school, I can tell you the teachers will either shoot each other, or the Assistant Principals.  Principal won't be shot - probably tortured, more likely.  :-)

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:33 | 5151741 Grande Tetons
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Dodgeball banned...Ms. Crabtree packing heat OK.  Gotcha. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:34 | 5151744 Omen IV
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The USA is an open air insane asylum

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:36 | 5151758 Grande Tetons
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The grass surface makes it easier to charge the net. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:45 | 5151784 steelrules
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Just it's leaders.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:05 | 5151868 BlindMonkey
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No.  The FSA is right at fucking crazy too.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:45 | 5152707 Leraconteur
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...and a forced labour camp with better food...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:36 | 5151756 loregnum
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Saying Newtown was a nuclear bomb that changed everything pretty much backs up it being a false flag/fairy tale. I don't think there has ever been a legit event that magically "changed everything" and it is only the false flag type ones (the events that have serious holes or evidence that doesn't make sense) that do. 


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:39 | 5151763 Oldrepublic
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A good piece today from John Whitehead, calling public schools

incubators for fascism

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:46 | 5151792 Stoploss
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Bingo. Fascist indoctrination centers are all they are.  It's crystal clear.  The fucking British are breeding these fucking killing machines with their fucked up common core up the ass of America teaching program.


Don't think for a fucking minute we don't know where this shit is coming from.

Britain has a fucking problem, they just don't realize it yet.

Oh, but they will...

Gonna suck balls if Putin gets enough of their bullshit as well.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 23:28 | 5152514 gonetogalt
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My libtard second ex-wife was a special education university level teacher of teachers. We had WW111 over our kids education and her work goals in general. She defended public education on the grounds of 'children need to be socialized' in a P.S. situation.

'nuff said, the purpose of socialization is the production of socialists.  That pissed her off.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:57 | 5152727 Otrader
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Is that her on the avatar?  If yes, then may be we can give 'children need to be socialized' in a P.S. situation' thing a chance.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:41 | 5151768 BadDog
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More 911 phoney baloney

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:43 | 5151776 steelrules
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The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, BTW wasn't Sandy Hook school one of these hardened schools with locked doors at all times where you had to be buzzed in with security cameras on...

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:45 | 5151786 Seasmoke
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Who are the good guys ???? Won't be long before students are getting shot for mean looking stares

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:49 | 5151805 l8apex
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So I guess stopping the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place is out of the question?  


Funny how that seems to work in pretty much every other civilized country on the planet.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:10 | 5151887 Ckierst1
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Actually, it doesn't and you really meant to say that you want to disarm everyone else, placing everyone at the mercy of the goons. You need to spend less time reading the New York Times.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:20 | 5151936 Raymond K Hessel
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When you find a civilized country better than America, don't you think we'd all fucking emigrate to that place?

Don't you think if there existed a country better than America, people would be going there instead of coming to America?

I love how people say how other countries do it better than we do it, even more so when they themselves are immigrants.  All I'm thinking is, you could have moved anywhere in the world, and in your estimation you picked #2 to find your fortune? Not that other place that so much fucking better than America?


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:36 | 5151988 FeralSerf
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What makes you think a civilized country would allow Americans to immigrate there and fuck up their society too?

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:43 | 5152705 Leraconteur
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Reality and facts. USA passport holders can move more or less freely as they wish, emigrate at will to most nations.

Germany (gun ownership), Canada (gun ownership), Denmark, Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland (gun ownership), France.

Shall I continue?

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 08:27 | 5153145 Raymond K Hessel
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Continue, please.

But do stop at a country that American boys and girls spend their nights dreaming about moving to that country for a better life.  

Please continue to list countries every single country in the world but STOP when you reach one, just one, that is overrun with American immigrants crossing its borders in thousands, tens of thousands because life in America is so much worse here.

I'll wait. Or you can realize that mass immigration is to America and not flowing away from it. When it moves in the reverse, then I'll change my tune.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:28 | 5152142 Shrapnel
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JTRIG pls go

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:23 | 5152601 luckylogger
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Who decides whome is the bad guy????? You?????? Me??????????????

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 05:58 | 5152903 InsaneAngloWarLord
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Hillary Clinton of course. what were you thinking?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:43 | 5151779 Seasmoke
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And the property taxes go thru the roof , causing more and more fraudclosures. A win-win for the Treasonous Motherfuckers.

How did any of us ever survive in school thru the 70s and 80s ??

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:46 | 5151795 Grande Tetons
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I road my bike to school with no helmet and a cigarette hanging out of my mouth for aboyt 5 years.  This was back when Aerosmith was a cool band. 

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:59 | 5151846 toady
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AKA "The good ol' days"

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:38 | 5152696 Leraconteur
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Except that it isn't a bunch of old farts deluding themselves about how great things were, we have objective measurements that prove that the present is worse than the past.

Did you know that no kids play pick-up sandlot whiffle ball or baseball or kickball or softball any longer? Dodgeball, of course, outlawed years ago.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:53 | 5152720 Otrader
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This was back when Aerosmith was a cool band.


Now Steve T. is doing American Idol.  Sheeesh.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:45 | 5151788 himaroid
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Gives a whole new meaning to the "The Sundance Kid" "Younger Brothers" and "Billy the Kid".

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:48 | 5151797 VWAndy
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Them teachers wont know what hit them.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:51 | 5151812 Notsobadwlad
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First the government creates the problem and then the install whatever they want with virtually no opposition.

Could it be any more obvious that Newtown was a false flag for this very purpose.

Nothing happens by accident.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:53 | 5151818 Seasmoke
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Diane Feinstein gives you a green arrow.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:57 | 5151833 Notsobadwlad
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One wonders about the real purpose... maybe to keep parents from taking their kids in an emergency. And, it would be interesting to know what government servants they trust with guns around kids. TSA rejects, too violent and disturbed for airports, maybe?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:53 | 5151821 luckystars
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Its militarized everything. That's what the want.

Total fascism, they were pissed at Hitler for thinking of it first.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:58 | 5151842 Notsobadwlad
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This is just Hitler 2.0.

They believe that this time, given the additional technology they will get it right.

It is not enough for us to be slaves to money, but they want us to be slaves who have no rights to property or even our own kids.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:57 | 5151837 william114085
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I was walking my dog on the grounds of my old elementary school over the summer.  Plastered on each side door was a sign "no firearms permitted on premises".  They were on doors that had no handles from the outside (maybe you remember them).  Only kids returning from recess would be seeing these placards.  Ironically, the sign was not posted on the front door. Think about the lunacy of having these signs everywhere.  If someone is planning to bring a firearm into the school for some evil purposes, do these pin-heads think the signs will deter them?  It's all about instilling fear into the kids.  


And morbidly obese fathers everywhere won't grow a spine.  I heard some kid asking his dad about all the BS TSA security at the airport....this fat fuck tells the kid it's to keep them safe.  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:58 | 5151838 Spungo
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Number of shootings in Canada =?

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:21 | 5151943 Supernova Born
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Wait until Burger King starts making your donuts.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:22 | 5151946 steelrules
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Worst was in Quebec in 1989 15 killed

Total death in school shootings, 39 since 1884 total incidence 16. Stats have shown in Canada you are 2/3 more likely to be killed by a non gun owner than by a gun owner.

Canada has a large gun culture, over a million gun owners with a police estimated 10 million guns, my guess would be double that, this would put us on par with the US at 1 gun for every 2 housholds. There's been a huge run on guns up here since about 2006 with more people getting licenced.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:25 | 5152354 Skargit
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And contrary to what FoxNews or the loony left in the MSM like to parade about, it isn't hard to get a fire arms license up here in Canuck-Ville.

FoxNews like to use bullshit in this facet to show how we hate FREEEDUM!
The Left-wing insanity like to parade about (fake) statistics about how we're scared of guns and it makes us a romper-room of a country with love, snuggles, hope and change.

Both sides are full of crap.

But you're reading ZeroHedge... so you knew that.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 03:24 | 5152681 steelrules
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It isn't hard to pass the firearms courses, but you have to provide 2 refrences to vouch for your character, pass a criminal background check not just once but daily, your name is run on RCMP computers "daily", your application also wants the name of your significant other and their signature, whom they may contact to be sure they weren't forced to sign under duress, then they ask whether you have had suicidal thoughts in the past seeing a shrink or if you have been in bakruptcy. Yup it's easy to get your licence up here or at least that's what the anti's think, they think licences are being given away like popcorn.


Wed, 08/27/2014 - 19:59 | 5151845 VWAndy
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Guys this is bad. chew on it for a bit.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:07 | 5151869 alexcojones
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Sandy Hoax

Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died

26 Christmas trees aleady in place beforehand

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:12 | 5151891 alexcojones
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   "According to State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky, Lanza killed his 26 victims with the Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle and then killed himself with his Glock 10-mm handgun. Lanza was also supposedly carrying three 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster as well as a Sig-Sauer 9 mm handgun (see above). The victims were shot multiple times each in a fusillade of bullets from these military-style weapons. In order to wreak this havoc, he fired more than 150 rounds, and he must have carried more rounds in addition. Lanza was reportedly found dead wearing a bulletproof vest and military-style clothing (AP).

   "As Mike Powers, a professional military investigator and ballistics expert, has observed, this young man of slight build could not have carried all these heavy, bulky weapons and ammunition on his person. Furthermore, since first responders were supposedly inside the school within seven minutes, there was not enough time for Lanza to have carried out the shooting as reported. In an interview with Joyce Riley, Powers states that Lanza could not have fired so many times continuously without destabilizing himself from the intense noise from the Bushmaster. As a novice, he could not have shot an AR-15 with such speed and accuracy, supposedly changing magazines 4-5 times without a stoppage."

And surprisingly. no wounded.

Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 01:02 | 5152647 Bawneee Fwank
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Sandy Hook reminds me of the Port Arthur massacre...

Martin Bryant, an intellectually impaired registered invalid with no training in the use of high powered assault weapons, could not under any circumstances have achieved or maintained the incredibly high and consistent killed-to-injured ratio and kill-rate which were bench marks of the port Arthur massacre. Whoever was on the trigger that fateful day demonstrated professional skills equal to some of the best special forces shooters in the world, His critical error lay in killing too many people too quickly while injuring far too few, thereby exposing himself for what he was: a highly trained combat shooter probably ranked among the top twenty such specialists in the western world.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:17 | 5151928 Budd aka Sidewinder
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Hopefully CIA wont use schools to have british accented phony ragheads to accomplish their objective

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:20 | 5151934 alexcojones
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Getting to be a lot like Christmas...

26 Christmas Trees "Present" Behind Sandy Hook
Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:59 | 5151953 alexcojones
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  "The Christmas trees were already at the fire station BEFORE the anonymous N.C. man donated them.

  "You may say: “Well, of course the trees were at the fire station before the man donated them because the station was planning to have a Christmas tree sale!”

  "There’s just one other thing wrong.  The Sandy Hook fire station had EXACTLY 26 Christmas trees the day before the anonymous donor so generously donated 26 Christmas trees to remember the 26 victims."

Gee, Coincidence, right?

1:57:02 Sandy Hoax - Full Documentary by ThinkOutsideTheTV
Wed, 08/27/2014 - 20:24 | 5151958 Haloween1
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Show your kids the movie "Stand By Me" so they can see the freedom kids used to have.  Then explain to them how their parents and grandparents gave it all away because they were too lazy to enforce the rules of personal responsibility and civility ethics that they were taught by their parents in the '50s and '60s.  Explain to your kids how their parents and grandparents decided to transfer their parenting responsibilities to the government so they could sit around on their couches and watch football games and Oprah instead of spending time with their own kids.







Wed, 08/27/2014 - 22:35 | 5152387 ShakaZulu
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Seen it many times.  Reminds me of my youth.  Sadly gone forever!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 12:18 | 5162368 optimator
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They didn't give it away, it was taken away.

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:21 | 5152087 Salsipuedes
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Fait accompli.  Newtown was the kind of "Nuclear Bomb" that destroys no buildings, kills no people and leaves no evidence but effectively destroys the intellectual fabric of a population. (I hope they don't think I'm flattering them. The acting is atrocious and the story lines are preposterous!)

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 12:01 | 5162323 optimator
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One demented kid killed 27 in a few minutes.  Not one person was wounded, only killed and untouched.  When has there ever been a shooting like this with not a drop of one wounded person's blood?  

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:25 | 5152130 Seize Mars
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Don't ever forget. The same scumbags who brought you 911 also brought you the fake beheading and the fake Sandy Hook. I encourage you to watch the above video.

Anyone who is trying to disarm you is trying to kill you.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:18 | 5152596 luckylogger
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Why else was it dropped right away.............
You are point on..............

Wed, 08/27/2014 - 21:33 | 5152168 Shrapnel
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Sandy Hook was a blatant fraud. Gov't degeneracy, nothing more.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:05 | 5152575 Fuku Ben
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Arm the kids

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:15 | 5152591 Joe A
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The children locked and fenced in. Then it takes just one security guard to go beserk and then there is no way to get out.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 07:00 | 5152941 andrewp111
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That is why you need more than one guard. They have to watch each other you know.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:16 | 5152592 luckylogger
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This looks like an anti-gun post to me................

libertarians do not favor more regulation...............

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 00:43 | 5152627 TheEndIsNear
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Allowing teachers and other school personell to carry firearms that they are trained to use is something "they" should have been doing all along. More Guns = Less Crime. If you outlaw firearms, only outlaws will have firearms.

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