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"A Man Of Many Perversions" – Federal Cybersecurity Head Convicted Of Child Porn Charges

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The following story is a warning as to why centralized power is so dangerous. It doesn’t matter whether the power is political or corporate, overly centralized power in all forms must be resisted whenever it appears. The worst of all worlds is when centralized political and corporate power unite in an unholy alliance, which is what has happened to America in recent decades. When this occurs, the combined forces of oligarchy simply begin to rapaciously feast on the citizenry with zero accountability. This is a fair description of the United States in 2014.

The primary problem with centralized power is that sociopaths (for obvious reasons) gravitate toward, and greatly covet, positions of power. Once entrenched in such positions, they are able to act upon their perversions with general immunity, and if they are caught, are often left in positions of power by others who at that point “own them” via blackmail. This of course is nothing new, it is how the game of power, politics and economics has been played since the beginning of time. It is also why decentralization of power is the natural evolution we as a species must embrace in order to build a better world.

Enter Timothy DeFoggi, the one-time cybersecurity director of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, who received several awards for his government “service” over the years. The self-proclaimed man of “many perversions,” frequented a child porn site called PedoBook where he “exchanged private messages with other members expressing interest in raping, beating and murdering infants and toddlers.”

More from Wired:

As the acting cybersecurity chief of a federal agency, Timothy DeFoggi should have been well versed in the digital footprints users leave behind online when they visit web sites and download images.

 

But DeFoggi—convicted today in Nebraska on three child porn charges including conspiracy to solicit and distribute child porn—must have believed his use of the Tor anonymizing network shielded him from federal investigators.

 

But DeFoggi’s conviction is perhaps more surprising than others owing to the fact that he worked at one time as the acting cybersecurity director of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. DeFoggi worked for the department from 2008 until January this year. A department official told Business Insider that DeFoggi worked in the office of the assistant secretary for administration as lead IT specialist but a government budget document for the department from this year(.pdf) identifies a Tim DeFoggi as head of OS IT security operations, reporting to the department’s chief information security officer.

 

Although anyone could use the sites, registered users like DeFoggi—who was known online under the user names “fuckchrist” and “PTasseater”—could set up profile pages with an avatar, often child porn images, and personal information and upload files. The site archived more than 100 videos and more than 17,000 child porn and child erotica images, many of them depicting infants and toddlers being sexually abused by adults.

 

DeFoggi became part of that sting after becoming a registered member of PedoBook in March 2012 where he remained active until December that year when the FBI shuttered it. During this time DeFoggi, who described himself as “having many perversions,” solicited child porn images from other members, viewed images and exchanged private messages with other members expressing interest in raping, beating and murdering infants and toddlers.

 

DeFoggi received many commendations during his government career, according to an exhibit list created by the government for his trial. The list includes several certificates of award from the U.S. Treasury, a certificate of appreciation from the State Department for his work on a Hurricane Katrina task force, several documents related to computer courses he attended and certifications he received.

 

 

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Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5156940 holdbuysell
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Sociopaths vs. Sociopaths.

Break out the popcorn.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:51 | 5156960 BellyBrain
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The penalty for pedophilia and other forms of rape should be:  THE DEATH PENALTY.

Seriously.  End these sick fuckers, because there is no cure.

Further, the one who has been harmed (or their family) should be empowered and assisted in killing their abusers if they so desire. 

Finally, women should be well armed and well trained in all forms of interpersonal combat, and encouraged to kill attempted rapists.  Afterward such a killing occurs, the woman should be given counseling and a small token of gratitude from their community. 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:10 | 5157017 Ballin D
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Or he didnt follow orders.

There are posts every day about the dangers of a government that supposedly tracks our every action online and what they can do with that blackmail. What prevents them from making stuff like this up?  I wouldnt trust their word against a stranger and just the same I wouldnt trust it against a brother.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:20 | 5157060 FreedomGuy
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The thought struck me the other day that if NSA and others can monitor and get into all our communications and computers what prevents them from inserting whatever they want into the same devices? The vast majority of people are relatively unsophisticated in the nuances of their systems and where things could be hidden.

So incumbent Comrade A is running against challenger Comrade B for office and losing handily. Two weeks before election Comrade B is found to have 25,000 child porn, actual rape and snuff photos and videos on his computer. Comrade B is confronted by planted reporter and supporter of Comrade A during a live campaign rally and is speechless.

Comrade B loses handily and his name is cleared five years later. Meanwhile Comrade A smiles and tells all challengers to take notes. He also doubles the funding of the NSA.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:40 | 5157107 Urban Roman
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Exactly.

Kiddie porn is such a convenient way to obtain a conviction and end someone's career. Nothing else is required; simply stick a few files on the victim's computer and call the police. No other evidence is needed.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:02 | 5157148 Say What Again
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OT but - Has anyone else noticed how slow ZH is in responding?  Downloads are slow, login is slow, posting is slow.

What's going on?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:05 | 5157156 So What
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The second most disturbing thing about this article is that Tor Browser is not as safe as claimed. they can still track you down. So rebels, use caution.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:41 | 5157207 Pinto Currency
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Most of those control freaks are perverts.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:54 | 5157228 InjectTheVenom
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No worries for this creep ... he should find a position in Barry's inner-circle within a year . He'd fit in perfectly ... they're always lookin' for fine morally-sound men like this !

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:04 | 5157236 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I just want to urge you all NOT to lose faith in our government. This is a totally isolated case. I am 100% certain he's the ONLY ONE bad apple out of all federal employees. Only one. There are no other bad apples. None. You can trust us.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:05 | 5157242 Pinto Currency
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Not even a smidgeon of bad apples.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:14 | 5157255 Liberal
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And I'm sure this DeFoggi guy is just misunderstood. Maybe he was just doing good ol' spy work and found some powerful people at the si...Oh, I better stop now.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:40 | 5157342 Richard Chesler
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He should have no problem finding a job at the SEC or TSA.

Banana republics SOP.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:22 | 5157420 jeff montanye
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re: death penalty

only as good as the criminal justice system enforcing it.

given all the people taken off death row by dna evidence, i'd be a little hesitant to enlarge the ability of the masters to execute the "citizenry", especially for computer crimes that, as noted, can be faked so easily.

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/cawrongfulconviction.htm

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/DNA_Exonerations_Nationwide.php

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 06:48 | 5157514 eclectic syncretist
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I predict we're going to trade in a whole bunch of our current sociopathic leaders for a new bumper crop of them this Fall.  Assholes.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:42 | 5157770 Save_America1st
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as I've always said...these sick government fucks are all sociopaths...this particular sick fuck is also a full-on psychopath as well.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 10:05 | 5158177 boattrash
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Help me out here. Does anybody remember if this was the guy recently arrested by Feds with much fanfare? Seems some perv w/no violent record was busted in Mid-West w/SWAT, Choppers, Etc.. with a local School being used as a staging area. (If I find it ,Ill come back with a link).

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 12:14 | 5158868 Nehweh Gahnin
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The death penalty is a lot more reliable if you kill the perpetrator while he is committing/attempting the crime.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:21 | 5159851 Vullsain
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Yeah, amazing how many of these ZH, distrust of government types become goose stepping sheep when agitated.This article is very disturbing, but to advocate for execution of all convicted rapists, with the readily available knowledge of false accusations and convictions is classic lemming like behaviour. It might be different if the legal system strived for justice instead of politically and career motivated conviction rates. Or if financial or revenge motivated accusations were actually prosecuted. This will never happen as the Police State uses politically correct propaganda and hysteria tactics to further erode our constitutional rights. For the idiots who don't get it and bury their heads in the sand, google Brian Banks rape conviction.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:09 | 5157248 MsCreant
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Trust gov?

Trust libs?

The performance of performance troll is incomplete without the details.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:47 | 5157303 Liberal
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Are you racist or something?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:08 | 5157646 Rakshas
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LOL - nice one  MsCreant, can't vote up can't vote down - wonder how many trollbots fell off thier stool on that one.....  now if they'd only understand the same exists for elephant/donkey...... 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:20 | 5157377 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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I smell much sarcasm.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:20 | 5157270 zanez
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They'll make him head of the SEC.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:55 | 5157230 0b1knob
Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:09 | 5157367 OldPhart
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Hard to tell since he shaved off the mustache.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:45 | 5157211 lakecity55
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Hint: "tor" was created by in ess ay.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:36 | 5157737 PeakOil
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No. US Naval Research Lab, & DARPA. Currently maintained & developed by the Tor Project.(open source) There have been several attacks on Tor over the years. So what? This is clearly similar to the cryptographers and crypto-analysts "arms race" which has gone on forever. The ideas and motivation behind Tor are sound, but like anything else, there are limitations and cautions. No technology can be used blindly. 

The point is, to slam Tor and to just give up using good technologies like Tor and I2P and strong crypto because there are always cautions and things to be aware of is precisely what the 3-letter agencies want you to believe! Encryption works. If used properly, it gives the powers that be fits.

 

 

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:20 | 5157271 Lux Fiat
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I am no expert on Tor or web anonimity, but the moment I read that DARPA and other government agencies had a hand in it's development, I thought it might be a potential long-term honeypot.  Couldn't say whether it is or not, but would they really be involved in something like that and not create a backdoor somewhere?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:53 | 5157309 PT
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Talk is cheap.  If you didn't write the code yourself then you can't trust it.  If you can't read the code then you can't trust it.  If you can't understand the code then you can't trust it.  In fact, these days I can't trust the hardware either and neither should you.  Most people understand if you say you can't trust a mechanic and yet they trust those who build and program their computers.  WTF is up with that????????????????

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 01:58 | 5157316 PT
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P.S.  And hackers are people who write and understand such things as "POKE 47298,24" or some modern language equivalent.
Downloading and running some file that someone else wrote, without so much as a glance at the underlying code, is NOT hacking, not even in the slightest.

Err, not sure if I started drifting off topic just there but I thought the point needed making anyways.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:23 | 5157337 Lux Fiat
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I guess there are no guarantees in life, or code.  Caveat compiler? 

There have been a number of intriguing links that I have not clicked on over the years, whether on ZH or elsewhere, because of concerns over what might find it's way onto my computer, as anti-virus software etc. is not always all it is cracked up to be.  And from what I have read and heard over the years, backdoors seem to be the norm, regardless of who developed it. 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:57 | 5157837 PeakOil
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So we should all just throw up our hands? Say: "it's too complicated" and give up? No. Be aware of the risks and fight back.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 05:35 | 5157467 vegan
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Maybe? Maybe not?

I don't claim to have any knowledge whatsoever about this case, it's entirely possible that a rogue govt set the guy up on fictitious charges; none of us trust this govt any farther than we can shit. We know that peacful protesters are targeted as "terrorists", so is it a stretch to set up a "persona non grata" as a fan of child exploitation?

Anyway, it's also possible that the govt/prosecution threw in mention of TOR just to make people say "Oh, fuck it. It's too complicated and it doesn't even work." The govt has previously claimed that they can easily crack any encrption, so don't bother with encryption. I'm sure they read a lot of encrypted messages, but NOT because they cracked the encryption, rather they compromised the hardware and/or software being used to compose and read encrypted messages.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 06:53 | 5157520 aurum4040
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Its simple - if you or we are all afraid of the illuminati - they are winning. If we all weren't afraid and expressed that through mass rebellion of the atrocities at hand - we win. 7.5 billion vs. the <1%'ers = the new world order that the masses need.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:35 | 5157576 booboo
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"The second most disturbing thing about this article is that Tor Browser is not as safe as claimed"

That was the intended message the entire article was built around. See how easy that was.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 09:01 | 5157852 sleigher
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Exactly.  If TOR is so compromised, then how come it took so long to get the dread pirate roberts dude (I forget his name).

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 14:19 | 5165060 Bunders
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Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:39 | 5157757 fallout11
Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:53 | 5157808 PeakOil
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Eh, CIA funded? Doubt that. Man in the middle, traffic analysis, and browser exploits by the NSA - yes. Anything can be attacked. How easy and costly are these attacks to pull off? That is another question entirely. If the NSA wants to throw the full weight of the agency against you - then you likely have a problem and must be extremely careful online!! But if you are Joe Blow Tor user who just values his privacy and isn't frequenting dangerous potential honey-pot sites that host child-porn, then you are probably OK.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 20:49 | 5161038 MontgomeryScott
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You're pushing 'TOR' WAY too hard.

It's almost as if you have some 'ulterior motive' here.

Straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.ohmygodel.com/publications/usersrouted-ccs13.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the report, and in full (if you care to open the link).

U.S.N.R.L. and Georgetown University, and TOR.

Users Get Routed: Traffic Correlation on Tor by Realistic Adversaries Aaron Johnson 1 Chris Wacek 2 1 U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, Washington DC {aaron.m.johnson, rob.g.jansen, paul.syverson}@nrl.navy.mil Rob Jansen 1 Micah Sherr 2 Paul Syverson 1 2 Georgetown University, Washington DC {cwacek, msherr}@cs.georgetown.edu
Fri, 08/29/2014 - 09:54 | 5158125 SuperRay
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"I don't believe anything the government says"

George Carlin

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 17:11 | 5160268 MayIMommaDogFac...
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"All governments are lying cocksuckers"

Bill Hicks

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:07 | 5157159 McMolotov
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Probably just the NSA quietly placing a bunch of kiddie porn on the ZH servers.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:52 | 5157227 Ralph Spoilsport
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I'm not having any noticeable problem with my connection but I'm talking with my brother in Ohio and he is having trouble with slow page loads on ZH. He's with Comcast and I have a connection with AboveNet. It's a radio link on my end so this connection is only rated at 3 Mbps in clear weather with no large ships getting in the way.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:27 | 5157423 jeff montanye
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currently zh working fine for me but some time ago it was extremely hard to keep stories up, had to keep the mouse clicked down on the blue oval to maintain control, had to make comments very quickly to avoid page blankouts, etc. etc. etc.  perservered nonetheless.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:20 | 5157190 RichardParker
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Less work than going to the trouble to plant an ounce of coke in his car.  Besides, doing the time for possesion has got to be way easier than for pedophilia.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:01 | 5157319 PT
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Ding ding ding.  We have a winner.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:28 | 5157424 jeff montanye
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and the shame factor is so much more satisfying.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:26 | 5157194 SMG
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Among the Elite pedophilia is a religious thing.  They believe the act is about stealing some of the power from the victim. That said, you could eliminate just about any enemy you want simply by placing offending pic/vids on your enemies computer.

Frightening.

What a world.  It needs to change for the better.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:06 | 5157363 John_Coltrane
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This problem is completely eliminated by encrypting your entire internal HD using truecrypt or equivalent software.  Then store anything really valuable in removeable, hideable, also encrypted media if you're really paranoid.  Pretty hard to place images in unencrpted form or plaintext on an encrypted disc and then claim they belong to the computer owner, when everything else looks like binary gibberish (since its encrypted).  And if they demand you give up the passphrase to decrypte it they further destroy their case since everything decrypted is perfectly ordinary (maybe just the operating system and standard software).  Of course the hidden encypted media contains your real operating system, sensitive data etc.  And you boot only from removal media!  The computer internal HD is just a dummy system to entrap dummies (i.e. FBI, NSA types). 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:13 | 5157372 OldPhart
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I have no idea what you said.

But all of my fantasy pictures are of hangin' politicians, guillotined bankers, and President Ebola lying in state.

Nothing inciminating here.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:33 | 5157425 jeff montanye
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i'm of the clinton/bush/obama are horrible people and presidents persuasion, but since he is currently in power find the following somehow mildly satisfying:

http://media.y8.com/system/contents/13365/original/Falling_Obama.swf

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:12 | 5157542 StandardDeviant
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What you describe makes good sense, although it's a bit of work, and requires some technical sophistication.

Do be careful with TrueCrypt, though, as its status right now is unclear.  I'm not sure what I would trust in its place, but if you're on Linux then dm-crypt might be worth a look.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 09:10 | 5157894 sleigher
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7.1 is still ok.  7.2 is when things went weird.  

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:00 | 5157355 mc225
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something very similar to this very thing was a sub-plot on the tv show, 'utopia'.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 05:03 | 5157443 Perfecthedge
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I'll give you another story.

 

British police find 1.400 rape cases of children in some unknown village.  Maybe there where rapes - maybe only a few, maybe not.

Cam-MORON takes this as the perfect case to bring in more "security" + monitoring and also gets to beat and kick some brown people out of the country.

Or maybe I am getting paranoid. Who knows.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 05:09 | 5157448 Anton LaVey
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I believe Bill Hicks skit about "The Elite" is now more relevant than ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL-33xWX2gQ

I miss the guy... He would have had a filed day with NSA.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 10:07 | 5158182 A Nanny Moose
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"My dog ate my emails." - Lois Lerner:

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:04 | 5158472 JRobby
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A true "lightbulb moment"

G. Joubert: "I expect he was about to become an embarassment"

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:29 | 5157085 lakecity55
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He must have pissed off a higher-up perv.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:17 | 5157182 benb
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Or threatened to tell the truth...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:52 | 5157225 benb
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Remember what Hunter S. Thompson said, in essence - Whatever you hear coming out of Washington is never the real story.

He was the only journalist out there questioning 9-11.

Died of 'natural causes' not long after…

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:57 | 5157232 0b1knob
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Hunter s. Thompson.   Curiosity kill that cat.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:40 | 5157582 zorbathefreak
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He, naturally, blew his brains all over the wall.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:05 | 5158475 JRobby
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Shotgun inserted in mouth. Sounds accidental.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:31 | 5157088 McMolotov
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They have us so paranoid we have no idea who to believe anymore. I really hate that feeling.

I have three kids, and my gut reaction is for this guy to have his balls cut off. But after considering everything we've learned recently with regard to the NSA, I'm forced to think he may have done something that didn't please his superiors in government. Who the fuck knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

(The Shadow knows...)

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:36 | 5157104 ebworthen
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Inmates running the asylum.

I love that The Shadow carried dual .45 calibers.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:09 | 5157162 Zoomorph
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No idea who to believe. They're also attacking Tor's reputation with this story.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:16 | 5157175 potato
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Tor must be used properly for full anonimity. It is not anonymous out of the box, but with the proper procedures it is near impossible to trace.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:46 | 5157218 Hobo Sapien
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http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/

"Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government"

 

“The United States government can’t simply run an anonymity system for everybody and then use it themselves only. Because then every time a connection came from it people would say, “Oh, it’s another CIA agent.” If those are the only people using the network.”

—Roger Dingledine, co-founder of the Tor Network, 2004

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:54 | 5157229 Ralph Spoilsport
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Maybe the guys maintaining Tor are getting some help:

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/26/are-rogue-nsa-agents-tipping-off-tor-to

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:46 | 5157346 Dr Dooom
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Any hint or link ?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:10 | 5157165 Earl Slaughter-...
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"...I'm forced to think he may have done something that didn't please his superiors in government"

 

Maybe... or not. Could be he's a sick fuck who needs to be curb-stomped, but then, I hear there's a lot of good cops in prison-- you know, the ones who forgot to hide the kilo of coke that was found in the wheelwell of their squad car.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:04 | 5157322 PT
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... and you and me will never know.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:41 | 5157206 123dobryden
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small positive thing is, as they all hunger for power and as they get higher, natural thing for them is to surround themselves and hire not competent people as they could topple them, but loayal people first, so their ability to act is quite crippled, as primary goal of their "soldiers" is not to act, not to "fight" but suck up

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:36 | 5157103 Bingo Hammer
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Firstly proven pedophiles should be strung up or incarcerated for life, as there is NO known cure for their sickness.

Secondly the NSA spying/blackmail creation machine has really been put to good use in Europe in recent month, how else can you explain their total insanity of severly damaging their economies by falling into lockstep with US directed sanctions against Russia; indeed, a miss thrown boomerang can really deliver a bitch of an injury if you're not careful.

Further Merkel knew full well what the outcomes to German industry and the economy would be....but she had to persist with sanctions; an own goal if ever we've seen one.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:01 | 5157145 PT
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Pedos should be shot and cremated.  The real problem is that then whenever someone wants to get rid of someone else, they just get them branded a pedo.  No messy loose ends to tie up. 
Another problem is that I no longer see how anyone can be held accountable for what is on their hard drive.  99.99% of the population cannot tell what their computer updates are really doing, and 99.99% of the population can't even prove what is on their hard drives straight from the manufacturer  (There should be a lot of zeros but most people can't actually prove that).

While it should be easy to convict the makers of pedo porn, I'm very suspicious of convictions of viewers of pedo porn.  For those with the skills, it is way too easy to plant evidence.  For every several convictions of viewers, we should start seeing a few convictions of the makers of pedo porn, shouldn't we???  Sure it might be harder and require some real police work, but they got the guy from Silk Road didn't they?  If they don't convict any porn producers, then why not?

I actually expect the war on child porn to take over from where the war on drugs left off.  People aren't buying the war on drugs anymore so what's their next move?  Who's gonna say no to a war on CP?  (That will strangely result in many convictions of well off "viewers" whose many assets will be "confiscated" because "they don't deserve their ill-gotten gains" but few or no convictions of producers ...

It will be the new Orwellian 15 minutes of hate.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:13 | 5157168 potato
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This has nothing to do with kids because even computer-generated CP is illegal.

This is just another power grab, like the drug war.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:41 | 5157344 Lux Fiat
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Yes, I remember reading this when it came out.  Was half expecting to see some story trying to link Snowden to child porn as most people have such a visceral reaction to the topic.  http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/08/03/warning-someone-is-trying-to-set-up-liberty-activists-using-child-porn/?cp=2

For those wary of links, the main points...

There have been a string of anonymous attacks on liberty activists, all attempting to trick people into opening email attachments containing child-porn.   We know of at least four such attempts within the past few weeks.

The first was when someone emailed Luke Rudkowski, Founder of We Are Change and tried to trick him into opening attached jpeg files containing child porn.   Luke was able to use the “view” function of his email to see that the images were child porn and he did not open them.

Then, someone using a tormail account tried to do the same thing to Dan Johnson, Founder of People Against the NDAA (PANDA).   Whoever emailed Dan Johnson pretended to be me, Stewart Rhodes, but using a Tormail account.    Fortunately, Dan knew that I don’t use Tormail, and therefore he did not open the attachments.   Instead, he had a computer security expert examine the files, and that expert determined that they contained child porn.   You can read more about that attack, and watch a video we made about it, here.

Well, a few days later it happened again, to two other liberty activists we know.   They have chosen, for the time being, to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp.  All of us have reported these incidents to the FBI, through attorney Sue Basko.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 01:44 | 5161727 FreedomGuy
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The problem is just the accusation much less any evidence whatsoever is so powerful and explosive that it permanently damages or destroys the accused.

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:18 | 5157375 OldPhart
Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:44 | 5157400 Bingo Hammer
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You're probably right.......but I feel the true and greater humanity that still exists on this planet needs to retain its "higher humanity" rather than keep ourselves hooked into and onto a perpetual karmic cycle 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:50 | 5157406 Canoe Driver
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But it wouldn't matter as long as the accuser was a moron like "Belly Brain," who thinks we should just kill 'em all. I'm in favor of the summary execution of retards like "Belly Brain."

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 06:15 | 5157493 hairInTheSoup
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absolutely, it is the typical kind of accusation they create to discredit potential whistle blower / dissident (& the way the sheeps dive right into it like the guy you replied to is also very typical).

disinformation at his best with odds being something sinister is coming

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 01:12 | 5161047 garypaul
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Ballin D you have a point. This story just sounds too bizarre to be true.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:13 | 5157044 AlaricBalth
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Boston Globe - July 2010: "Federal investigators have identified several dozen Pentagon officials and contractors with high-level security clearances who allegedly purchased and downloaded child pornography, including an undisclosed number who used their government computers to obtain the illegal material, according to investigative reports.

The investigations have included employees of the National Security Agency, the National Reconnaissance Office, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency — which deal with some of the most sensitive work in intelligence and defense — among other organizations within the Defense Department."

Soon after, the investigation was mysteriously dropped as the estimated number of pedophile offenders within the government reached into the thousands. Allegedly, as the onion was peeled and informants were looking to cut deals, the familiar names of some of the highest ranking government officials and elected representatives kept popping up. Some of the alleged perps were congressmen who could influence the Pentagon budget, and the investigation was quietly quashed.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:21 | 5157051 himaroid
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Give me just half the chance of an Alamo hero.

Like RP

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:23 | 5157071 Bad Attitude
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Just kill them.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:23 | 5157075 SilverRhino
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>> including an undisclosed number who used their government computers to obtain the illegal material,

  • Really in this day and age?  Nobody can be that stupid.
  • How many people is the Obama regime purging while using this as an excuse?  

 

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:46 | 5157124 AlaricBalth
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"Nobody can be that stupid."

SR. I believe they can be that stupid, or believe they are untouchable. It is said a fish rots from the head. With that in mind, did you happen to see POTUS today? Without his teleprompter he made quite a few stupid comments. He is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. His lack of leadership and a moral compass has infected the government like a virus. The patient was already ill when he arrived, however the pathogen he has spread may prove terminal.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:16 | 5157176 Charming Anarchist
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<<At this point, what difference does it make?>>

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:55 | 5157408 Bingo Hammer
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Hey even my girlfriend uses this shit on me these days.....its now called "the Hitlary Rebuttal"....it's so good that next time I'm stopped by a cop or in front of a magistrate I'll just say "At this point, what difference does it make?" that I was speeding, robbing, didn't pay my taxes etc etc etc

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:18 | 5157552 StandardDeviant
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I like it!  And I am looking forward to hearing just how that works out for you.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 01:46 | 5161730 FreedomGuy
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I was going to try the Lois Lerner defense, too but then I realized it only works for people in government. All others are guilty and responsible until proven otherwise.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 06:18 | 5157497 hairInTheSoup
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you're mistaken, this story smells of big time propaganda with 2 objectives :

 

* make believe the people the government is a good tree and doing his job removing the bad apples

* get rid of potential whistle blower they don't trust as something nasty is coming

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:35 | 5157747 Tall Tom
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Counterintelligence to have people distrust the Tor Network? (It may be too good.)

 

(Maybe there is no backdoor as that information would be much too easy for a foreign operative to extract.)

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 02:10 | 5157330 trader1
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hidden in plain sight

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:12 | 5157167 potato
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The death penalty is a punishment that cannot be undone. the criminal system must be 100% accurate for it to be moral. Additionally, it is sadistic unless it is broadcast to the public as a deterrent.

Usually, executions are censored and the public doesn't see them.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:26 | 5157557 StandardDeviant
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Exactly.  In Canada, a number of well-publicized cases of wrongful convictions, some for offenses which might well have led to the death penalty, pretty much put an end to the debate over capital punishment.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 10:44 | 5158366 Squiddly Diddly
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I down voted you potatoe (graduate of Dan Quayle Elementary) because only God is 100% accurate/moral and while the death penalty cannot be undone, it is not the final verdict.  The purpose of the death penalty is that when God's image in man is violated, His justice demands retribution.  I agree executions should be public but their current lack of deterrent value does not make them sadistic but merely less effective. The death penalty is moral, not 100% accurate, and prevents more evil than it permits.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:17 | 5157178 kchrisc
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"The penalty for pedophilia and other forms of rape should be:  THE DEATH PENALTY."

Then everyone that disagreed with them would be guilty of pedophilia. Like how currently everyone, including those fighting the DC US' and ZATO's occupation and rape of their country, is a 'terrorist.'

Government is, always is, the enemy, and more government can never fix government.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 08:49 | 5157790 Tall Tom
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Hell the US Government is the greatest Kiddie Porn producer of them all.

 

With the NSA and CyberNanny...I mean...what more can they ask for?

 

It is well known that the US Military, the Pentagon, was involved in a Kiddie Porn scandal which was quietly covered up. The NSA, after all, is the US Military Intelligence branch.

 

The US Military ENCOURAGED CHILD RAPE in Afghanistan and Iraq as part of the "torturing some folks" sessions. That is so easily documented.

 

AND THE TAXPAYER PAID TO HAVE THIS DONE. FINANCIAL SUPPORT IS SUPPORT.

 

Two plus two is five?

 

The people whom buy their kids Cell Phones, and Personal Computers in their bedrooms, and the rest, are doubly complicit in that they pay for these services from Private Corporations and then pay the US Government to spy on their children.

 

If anyone deserves the Death Penalty for the production of Child Porn then many here need look no further than in the mirror at themselves.

 

They will dismiss my post, perhaps, and continue PAYING their Phone bills so as to give the US Government a look at their children's privates.

 

Most are so deserving of the guillotine, Chris in KC. Where do you start?

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:33 | 5157427 Canoe Driver
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You're for execution in, for one example, cases of date rape, retard?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 09:05 | 5157874 StupidEarthlings
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What kinda sick freaks down arrowed this comment?..

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 09:35 | 5158034 883dave
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Paint them green and let them go.

If you have a bad day, find a green person and kick the shit out of them

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:46 | 5156961 john39
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Openly satanic. How many higher ups in the gov are of a similar bent? Far too many...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:01 | 5157013 willwork4food
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Yes, if you desire to rape, beat and kill young children you should:

1. Get your dick cut off

2. Offer your organs up to someone that really needs them (sorry, not enough funds for a morphine drip)

3. End it with a $.50 bullet to the brain

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:12 | 5157037 BellyBrain
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I like the way you're thinking here.  Except that their organs are probably tainted by their sickness.  Best to just cremate or compost them.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:44 | 5157113 john39
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has to be nambla member lurking...  who else who down arrow any of this...  what is it they say now, its not disease, its an orientation?  sure it is...  and vampirism is trendy too...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:21 | 5157064 FreedomGuy
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Birds of a feather...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:18 | 5158552 JRobby
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ALL

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:54 | 5156988 Greenskeeper_Carl
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well, after he gets out of prison, maybe the SEC will be hiring. They will welcome him with open arms...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5157011 Theta_Burn
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I no nothing about the prisons in the badlands of Nebraska, but here in the Noreast this pc of shit would be beaten or boned daily if not locked by himself

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:23 | 5157067 Cruel Aid
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Gang banger in texas, drunk and stoned, hit and killed 2 kids with their dad pushing their out of gas car. Dad grabbed his gun snd shot the banger.

Today he got not guilty nullification. The jurors knew he shot him dead.

OJ ending but happy!   except for his dead boys obviously.

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:22 | 5157065 SilverRhino
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So which child molestor / bankster / sociopath higher up the food chain did he cross or offend?   

That's the REAL question we should be asking. 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:32 | 5157092 PT
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"Here, I need you to investigate this child pornography ring.  You need to go deep undercover!!!!!"
"GASP!!!!  Look what he has on his hard drive!!!!"

Yeah, it confuses me.  I'll never know the truth.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:24 | 5157192 Canadian Dirtlump
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This is legion.

 

Convicted in nebraska? Google franklin cover up. Then google dutroux affair. Then google dunblaine massacre.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:06 | 5157413 JLee2027
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His religious beliefs and lack of morals are absolutely related. Without Christ, there is no moral standard.

username "fuckchrist"

 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:07 | 5157537 Disenchanted
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Right. I employ the username fuckallahy'all when doing my pedo-surfing...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:19 | 5157417 HardAssets
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'socio-path' is a p.c. term for a psychopath

These guys have Jack the Ripper beat by many orders of magnitude when it comes to piling up bodies and destroying peoples' lives.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5156941 wee-weed up
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.

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5156954 NickVegas
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Yeah, it must be true because computers can't be hacked. I'm sure this man has no enemies.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:33 | 5157098 PT
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and it doesn't even have to be hacked.  See my comment above: 5157092

I repeat:  I do not know.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:39 | 5157106 PT
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But now the holder of child pornography has been caught, I only assume that soon the makers of the child porn will also be caught, right?  Right?

In the mean time, I shall remain suspicious of antivirus and Windows updates.  I mean, why could they possibly take so long?  What are they really up/downloading?  How could anyone know?  How do I really know that the empty sectors on my hard drive are really empty? ...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 04:06 | 5157411 conscious being
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How come their software is always so broken it needs to be almost constantly fixed?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 07:00 | 5157528 hairInTheSoup
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adopt linux !

(it's easy even if you're not tech sawy, give it a try you won't regret, it's not only safer, it's faster, ubuntu may be the distro that works for the most right out of the box)

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:21 | 5156956 alexcojones
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The only people surprised are those NOT paying attention.

District of Criminals since BEFORE 1913

BTW, Nebraska? uH oH, More bad news

The Franklin Cover-Up by John DeCamp
Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:46 | 5156957 NoDebt
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Here's the thing about big government.... we all know it's attracts sociopaths of all stripes.  That much I think we can generally agree about.  But do you know WHY?  Big government is about CONTROL in all aspects.  Including their own (especially their own).  Who easier to control and do your bidding that people you have dirt on and can manipulate/threaten into doing what you want them to?  You can use them and then conveniently dispose of them at whatever time fits your plans.

I will bet you they had the dirt on this sick-o LONG before these actions were taken against him.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:49 | 5156971 john39
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If you want people who will do evil things to others, it helps to pick people who are already evil. In that vein, pretty sure they have a certain type of profile they prefer for cops these days...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5157012 NoDebt
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The higher the office, the stronger the pull of the psycho magnet.  Cops are pretty much entry-level positions in that regard.  

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 00:19 | 5157181 bh2
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"Here's the thing about big government.... we all know it's attracts sociopaths of all stripes."

This needs correcting. It is not "big" government alone which attracts sociopaths. All government attracts sociopaths.

The reason for limiting the size of government is not to eliminate sociopaths. It is to limit their power to damage society for their own benefit. Sociopaths will still run for office and will still say whatever they must say to be elected.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 03:30 | 5157383 OldPhart
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Anyone else seriously consider running for office, then realizing that, if you somehow won, you'd have to work with those people on a day to day basis?

That has stopped me every time the thought came up.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:45 | 5156959 Jackagain
Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:50 | 5156964 Downtoolong
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centralized power is so dangerous.

Agreed, and often confused with Globalization, which in  its purest form isn't and doesn't neet to be about centralization at all.

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:57 | 5156998 LongMarch
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Yet, somehow it is.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:50 | 5157131 Urban Roman
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Downtoolong is thinking of the architects and architecture of the Internet.

Policies and standards need to be universal and worldwide, and completely open and transparent.

Administration and enforcement need to be local, on as small a scale as possible.

Neither of the above rules are currently employed by the sociopaths-in-charge.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:49 | 5156967 Joebloinvestor
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You can bet they found all his emails, except the ones that implicated anyone in Barry's circle.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:53 | 5156985 john39
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Like in the Uk, with jimmy savile... Psychopathic pedophile, and best buds with prince Phillip and prince Charles... Just look at prince Phillip and you know that something ver foul hides behind those eyes:

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/prince-philip-filth...

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:49 | 5156968 CheapBastard
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He was absent those days when Guest Adjunct Faculty, Lois Lerner, gave her lectures on hard drives, emails, etc.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:53 | 5156975 Cangaroo.TNT
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Sociopaths that grow up on the streets rise to the top of criminal enterprises (Al Capone).

 

Sociopaths that grow up in boarding schools and attend ivy league institutions rise to the top of financial and government institutions. 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:51 | 5156977 ramacers
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power corrupts....... and absolute (tentacles like this sicko) power corrupts absolutely.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:52 | 5156980 the black arrow
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Erase this animal from the earth

 

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:52 | 5156981 Amish Hacker
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The cybersecurity director thought that Tor would cover his tracks. lulz

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5156982 SillySalesmanQu...
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"Good job DeFoggi".

I wonder if he's related to Brownie? Psychopathic MF...another despicable scoundrel.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:54 | 5156984 IridiumRebel
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Nice. They do evil shit to these fucks in prison. Hope you get the fuckin shiv you fuckin POS.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 22:57 | 5156991 Jack Burton
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Very briefly. For a few short years I worked inside a Federal Govenment agency. I saw the type of people who were promoted to supervisor and manger positions, I learned what type sought advancement inside the non competitve world of Federal Jobs. Promotion was based on being one of a select set of back stabbers and sell outs, and power seeking fools. Disgust with this slime made me desperate to go elsewhere, and I did. A warning, these people are not normal, they are sick, evil, self centered and actually believe power is given to them for a reason.

This pervert kid fucker, who held great power over citizens is the tip of an ice berg of social blood suckers, and evil doers. I simply hate this scum, my hate is based on seeing them up close and personal.

Thu, 08/28/2014 - 23:13 | 5157041 himaroid
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You ol cold lake fokker, you. I look forward to meeting you halfway. Maybe in Kentucky. Gen Samuel Hopkins monument is there. He became a Senator after he left here, right across the water. Became a famous Senator, etc. But the home he built when he was a young hero, on George Washington's staff. Served at Valley Forge and before and beyond. And several of GW's staff have rolled down the creeks to be with me. Their Ghost's asked me to tell you to keep up the good work. Good Night.

 

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