Summarizing The West's Russia-Ukraine Propaganda

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via ClubOrlov blog,

With regard to the goings-on in Ukraine, I have heard quite a few European and American voices piping in, saying that, yes, Washington and Kiev are fabricating an entirely fictional version of events for propaganda purposes, but then so are the Russians. They appear to assume that if their corporate media is infested with mendacious, incompetent buffoons who are only too happy to repeat the party line, then the Russians must be same or worse.

The reality is quite different. While there is a virtual news blackout with regard to Ukraine in the West, with little being shown beyond pictures of talking heads in Washington and Kiev, the media coverage in Russia is relentless, with daily bulletins describing troop movements, up-to-date maps of the conflict zones, and lots of eye-witness testimony, commentary and analysis. There is also a lively rumor mill on Russian and international social networks, which I tend to disregard because it's mostly just that: rumor. In this environment, those who would attempt to fabricate a fictional narrative, as the officials in Washington and Kiev attempt to do, do not survive very long.

There is a great deal to say on the subject, but here I want to limit myself to rectifying some really, really basic misconceptions that Washington has attempted to impose on you via its various corporate media mouthpieces.

1. They would like you to think that there is a Russian invasion in the East of Ukraine. What's actually happening is a civil war between the government of Western Ukraine (which no longer rules the east in any definable way) and the Russian population of Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine has been falling apart for decades—ever since independence. The eventual break-up was inevitable, but the catalyst for it was the military overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government and its replacement with cadres hand-picked in Washington.


2. They would like you to think that the Russian government stands behind Lugansk People's Republic and Donetsk People's Republic—the two regions which, based on referendum results, have chosen to break away from Kiev. In fact, the Russian government has refused to recognize these republics. They have received no official political support from Moscow, which asked for the referendums to be postponed, and repeatedly asked for a cease-fire and an international, negotiated settlement to the crisis. The leadership of LPR and DPR has refused, and now aims for an outright military victory.


3. They would like you to believe that the Russian government is arming the “rebels” in Eastern Ukraine. To the contrary, the Russian government has withheld all military support, limiting itself to providing humanitarian supplies to the hundreds of thousands of people whose lives have been destroyed by artillery and rocket fire coming from the Ukrainian forces. The weapons in the “rebels'” arsenal are trophies, which they seized from the retreating Ukrainian forces. That said, the “rebels” are indeed being supported—but by the Russian people, not the Russian government. Remember, these are all Russians, on both sides of the border, and the Ukrainian government no longer controls any of it.


4. They want to convince you that Russia poses a threat to peace in Europe, and that the crisis in Ukraine is part of an imperialist Russian strategy to resurrect the USSR. Nothing could be further from the truth. The overarching Russian ambition is for Russia to be a normal country, subject of international law, at peace with the whole world, and integrated into the global economy. The Russian government is doing next to nothing to prevent Russians in areas that were once part of Russia from being slaughtered right in their homes using artillery and rocket fire. This makes for a distressing spectacle, but the Russian people understand that enlarging the military conflict beyond the by now purely notional borders of Ukraine is not the answer.


5. They want to assure you that Kiev will eventually prevail in the conflict. In fact, the Ukrainian military is being systematically destroyed. Shelling civilians is the only activity which they have been able to carry out successfully. The government in Kiev has instituted three mobilizations, one after the other, sending into battle boys and old men (maximum draft age is now 60). Their soldiers are badly armed, badly trained, completely demoralized, and they mostly refuse to fight. The casualties run into the tens of thousands. Ukraine is quickly running out of tanks and APCs, which are all old Soviet-era and have been rusting for decades. It appears that Ukraine no longer has an air force at all. The war is far from over, but now, for the first time, LPR and DPR actually have something resembling an army, and that army is going on attack. Once the Ukrainian military collapses altogether, it seems likely that other parts of Ukraine will declare independence from Kiev.


6. They want you to think that the government in Kiev is legitimate, popular and stable. In fact, there are huge protests going on in Kiev at this very moment. The entire country is beyond bankrupt and is falling apart in real time, not just in the east, but everywhere. The people are beyond angry. The military units retreating from the east are in a foul mood, and may soon decide to turn their weapons against those who ordered them into battle. The people are beyond angry, and it seems probable that another revolution, only half a year since the last one, is in the works.

I hope that you can absorb this basic information and use it to filter out the propaganda that you read in Western newspapers and hear on the nightly news (if they mention Ukraine at all). Don't automatically assume that if your side is full of it, then the other side is too. You don't have to settle for lies.

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TheReplacement's picture

Do please provide a link to a Drudge article that was propaganda.  Oh wait, he just links to other people's stories, frequently to ZH.  Hmmm.

Project much?

Time for Titus's picture

Drudge was my first source of news for years. In the past couple of years it's become pretty clear to me that the MIC is his main agenda.

Taint Boil's picture



Yes, he only posts other’s stories but he changes the headline and most Drudge “folks” don’t know how to read past the headline. Just Google Obama’s Christmas tree tax myth which was plastered across Drudge at 24 font bold. Oh the power ……. Influencing K-Mart republicans who are nothing more than manipulated sheep who don’t even get it – too funny. 

TungstenBars's picture

Time is ticking for the Nudelmans in Kiev.. 

X.inf.capt's picture


its ticking for both sides...

if somethings going to will before the 'rasputitsa'...

conscious being's picture

You again! I thought you went away. The clock stops when the rebel army pulls up to Kiev. Right now they're cutting off Mariupol on the way to linking up with Crimea. The Donetsk Junta appointed govenor / government was hiding out in Mariupol, waiting for the Junta army to reinstall him in Donetsk City. Now its not gonna happen. The govenor was last seen exhorting his soon to be encircled troops to fight on as he was evacuating in his helocopter.

Miss Expectations's picture

Nothing says FUCK the EU quite like more Russian sanctions.

disabledvet's picture

How about an Israeli invasion of the Sinai?

JuliaS's picture

I would love to have Putin lead the sanctions talk - not play this silly tit for tat game. He should come out and lay out the list of EU and US targets. He should accuse them of being Nazi collaborators, being guilty of war crimes against humanity. Pretty sure there's a dozen dusty old documents with signatures from WW2 era written just for that.

There are many definitions in the "war crimes" category. If played by the book, half of the world leaders would already be imprisonned. Bush Jr, Tony Blair, Bill Clinot would be serving life sentences or dangling like Saddam.

The world we are living in is absolutely unbelievable. The sad part is that it was probably always like that, but without the internet it was easy to ignore.

Tale all the infomation you get via the web. Remove it, only leaving established MSM networks. What would you know? The exact headlines Orlov highlights. That would be everything you'd know. And I would probably be rooting for team America along with other flag-waving patriots.

The world was always like that. The wars were always like that - different only to people getting bombed and pointing guns at eachother. Now we are apart of it. Well... not quite. Still a safe distance away, still protected, but for how long?

TungstenBars's picture'_Protection_Act


The USSA is worse than Hitlers NAzi germany.


They will kill everyone before recieving justice. 


To them they are exceptional and everyone who isn't their slave deserves to die. 

Anunnaki's picture


Russia has already threatened how they will counter another round of punitive sanctions

1. Automobiles
2. Alcohol
3. Tobacco

frankly scarlet's picture

only one'd have to add Putin to your list of war criminals as he's no saint either.

conscious being's picture

You clowns keep saying this without ever providing any argument. OK, he was hard on Grozney. But people like him there now. No one wanted to live under the Jihadis.

So let's hear it. What are you accusing the guy of?? Is he droning wedding parties? Throwing babies out of incubators? Lay it all out there for us to see. Or do you just get paid to do what you do?

NoWayJose's picture

You can see why the EU/CIA false flag team is pushing so hard. The Ukies do not have much time left and will need Western intervention to make it much further.

TungstenBars's picture

Perhaps they will give up and turn back to Syria; after all this is really about pipelines and cutting off russia


Ukraine would have been hard for the USSA to keep under its wing for long anyway

conscious being's picture

I think you are right. Next up Syria. The fat lady is about to sing in the Ukraine.

Real Estate Geek's picture

And Monday's a bank holiday; I hope Tuesday's not. 

Fuku Ben's picture

The East's Ukraine-Russia Propaganda Summarizing The West's Russia-Ukraine Propaganda

blu's picture

Sorry pal Im American and I have a constitutionally protected right to my goddammed fictional narrative you Commie.

Just kidding. No I'm not.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"The first casualty in any Conflict is the truth" - old proverb

"There a 3 sides to every Story.  Your side, my side, and the truth" - old proverb

I'd love to see the intel that Putin, Obama, Merkel and Netanyahu get to see.  In part to see what's really going on, and in part to see what differences their reports have (at the Executive Summary level and in detail).  Note that I left out Poroshenko.  That's because he's just a Puppet and is irrelevant.

Real Estate Geek's picture

To see all that, you'd have to beam over to that nifty 'bridge' that Keith Alexander had at NSA . 

Dead Canary's picture


~ Attila the Hun ~

WOAR's picture

If that isn't a song yet, it needs to be.

NOTaREALmerican's picture

This is an interesting time of (R)etard bullshit creation.  

The (R)etards hate "that", "that", "that" ni... MUZ-LUM in the white-house, AND Putin is exactly the kind of manly man that Old Testament (R)etards would kill their kids for.    But,  Putin is a godless Commie ex-KGB who hates Merica,  so that must be causing some reality problems in the (tiny) brains of the (R)etards.

Of course, the (D)umbasses will believe anything their leaders say (just the (R)etards did when their leaders sent them out to find the Weapons of Mass Delusion).

It'll all be easier in two years when Romney win:  then the (R)etards and (D)umbasses can go back the non-confliciting anti-commy/anti-war bullshit.

craus's picture

I didn't expect this article from ZH.

Tomorrow ZH will be eating crow as Russian invasion will be posted everywhere.

Will ZH admit being wrong?

NOTaREALmerican's picture

Does a stock market crap in the woods?

Is the bond market Polish?

TungstenBars's picture

"as Russian invasion will be posted everywhere"


you mean like earlier today, last friday, the friday before last friday....?

kowalli's picture

ok so far we have - snipers in maidan, coup, mh17, russian convoy was destroyed by ukraine - and zh was wrong about it, oh,wait

rwe2late's picture


Apparently your "reality" is based on what you imagine will happen tomorrow,

while denying what has actually happened up to and including today.


Why don't YOU admit being wrong about everything that has happened so far?

TungstenBars's picture



the guy can't even admit (or realize) that Nudelmans dogs have cried wolf countless times

NotApplicable's picture

First, this isn't a ZH article.

I'll admit though, I was hoping Orlov would at least provide some detail behind his claims, rather than just parroting/clarifying state positions. I would assume part of this is due to the fact that this whole event was Western driven, and thus the ones who have to create a plausible narrative. Those on the defensive have no need, as it can only backfire and undermine their cause.

Gadfly's picture

And tomorrow you'll be eating shit. Just like you are today.

Omen IV's picture

so what happens to the billion dollar fortune of the Biden family in Burisma?

iamrefreshed's picture

Who is "They" who was repeated 6 times?

NOTaREALmerican's picture

The guys who program the Algos that bid-up the price of stock that nobody is trading.

Harbanger's picture

Yes, and since most programmers in the US come from India.  Lets nuke em.

smacker's picture

Your question is answered in the opening sentences, which read:

"With regard to the goings-on in Ukraine, I have heard quite a few European and American voices piping in, saying that, yes, Washington and Kiev are fabricating an entirely fictional version of events for propaganda purposes, but then so are the Russians. They appear to assume that if their corporate media is infested with mendacious, incompetent buffoons who are only too happy to repeat the party line, then the Russians must be same or worse."

Chupacabra-322's picture

Perfect example of "Reality being stranger than fiction." And, when you throw in Criminal CIA / MIC State Dept. False Narratives, PsyOp & Propaganda it outright boggles the mind.

It truly is an Art. A sick, sadistic, Pure Evil from of Perception & Mind Control.

logicalman's picture

If an alien was presented with a book describing the world we live in, he would dismiss it as being a totally unbelievable piece of work.


NOTaREALmerican's picture

Not if it was a dick-swingin' male alien.  

johnmack's picture

again i ask...where is china in all of this...i know i keep repeating myself but surely china knows if russia fails it is next. im beginning to think the chinese are not that smart or ready for global chess. 

NOTaREALmerican's picture

The last 50 years has shown the superiority of the American sociopaths many times.    As uncle Warren said:  never bet against Merica!

kowalli's picture

China helping russian from a shadow. You don't have news in western press about this.

yuan swaps is the tip of the iceberg + include trade war between USA and CHina +many other things( too lazy to describe)

NotApplicable's picture

Best to rarely ever lead with a trump. Game has far to go.

asiafinancenews's picture

China is busy garrisoning the South and East China Seas.

Socratic Dog's picture

Yep.  If things get real in Ukraine, China could just walk into Taiwan.  Second front.  That could make things tough for the neocons.  And the grunts in the trenches.

tonyw's picture

start by shooting down a US warplane?