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Poland Blocks Flight Of Russian Defense Minister's Plane
The last time Poland 'spoke' it was to accuse Russia of invasion (and the time before that it was to accuse the government of giving the USA blow jobs), but this time actions speak louder than words:
- *POLAND BLOCKS FLIGHT OF RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTER'S PLANE: RIA
Defense Minister Soigu's plane was forced to U-turn and land back in Bratislava.
As RIA reports,
Poland has refused overflight rights to the plane of Russia’s defense minister, Sergey Shoigu, who was on his way from Slovakia, RIA Novosti’s correspondent reported. The plane has landed in Bratislava.
The minister was returning from the celebrations of the 70th anniversary of the Slovakian national uprising that took place in the town of Banská Bystrica.
However, Poland banned entrance into its airspace for the Tu-154 plane, according to a RIA Novosti correspondent who was on board, citing one of the crewmembers.
The plane had to take a U-turn and landed in Bratislava an hour later.
Negotiations are being held on the matter at the moment.
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Retaliation for this?
Ponta is late for the cocktail reception http://t.co/OoBSZnrBlJ Russia Has Closed Its Air Space For Romanian Prime Minister's Plane
— Dmitry Rogozin (@DRogozin) August 28, 2014
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Or perhaps it is for his EU colleagues...
Despite a long run of initial resistance, Prime Minister Donald Tusk is now giving "serious consideration" to taking the post of European Council President, members of Tusk's inner circle admitted Friday, but leaving ambiguity how the governing party would proceed without what has arguably been the most dominant figure in Polish politics of recent years.
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Just throw a handful of pennies out on the tarmac and bring 'er on in......'pay the gate' polish style..
scare mongering hitting new highs... remember the old scare'em term "terror chatter"? its back, and funnier than ever:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/28/significant-increase-in-...
Oh, F me.. Polski tools.
Negotiations are being held on the matter at the moment.
Why bother? Spend 2 days leisurely mobilizing the military district adjacent to Belarus, put all boomers to sea, and strategic nuclear forces on full alert - and then inform Poland the plane will make another attempt and will not, under any circumstances, deviate from it's flight plan. Any more BS will be treated like the act of war that it is, and retaliation will be immediate, overwhelming and unrelenting.
Any interceptors or attacks that launch from any other nation other than cunt Poland will be met with a nuclear touch on their primary 5 cities.
Show 'em how brinkmanship is played!
(Naturally, this isn't a serious rec. and would just fall into the hands of the Demonic West - but FFS it's disgusting watching a punk bitch state like Poland play these games.)
A Pollack U-turn = a circle. I'd just fly around and around the airport, eventually land, and still be in compliance.
I think Putin has proven beyond any doubt, he's not going to be "baited" by these two bit Western Political side shows!!
Someone mentioned in another article, what is REALLY making all these Kenyesian thieves and con people who run the a West VERY nervous about Putin, is the obvious comparative analysis his philosophy is starting to take on with the West, and this notion that people are starting to make across the planet, that Putin may be "right" and the West "wrong"!!
Putin's popularity in America if properly polled, despite the almost constant MS Media bashing of him, would shock these banker and political thugs in this Country to their core and is proof of a larger dynamic that is afoot!
I would liken it to, Putin is taking on a very John Wayne like persona, at this point! Which as Americans know, was and still is one of the most popular figures in American pop culture!
That would be funny to have Putin play the role of John Wayne in a remake of Rio Grande or True Grit. Funny and great press. Can't believe they haven't thought of it yet.
Already had him as lead (pharoah) in Ten Commandments, er, or was that Yul Brenner???
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Great! Good Job Poland. In related news largest Russian airline company Aeroflot is working with losses already, more sanctions please.
Aeroflot reports big losses amid Ukraine turbulence:
http://news.yahoo.com/aeroflot-reports-big-losses-amid-ukraine-turbulenc...
Also Russian tourism companies are going bankrupt at a very nice rate lately.
Boy, these East European wannabes do look stupid... Let's talk again in, say, 3 months ? Maybe the cooler temperatures will help their thinking process, though I think not.
Your Russia will have to eat their gas(instead of food) as no one will need it soon enough. We have nuclear terminals now coming up in Poland and Lithuania/Other countries are also setting themselves up to be independent from Russian gas. Your mighty Russia got lower GDP(per capita) with all their gas and oil than the tiny Baltic states.
noy for another 10 years you will still need it. BTW, how's eating your own apples going, Poland? Ate them all yet? Just you wait untill RUssia puts even stronger sanctions on Polish products.
hmm, bet gas has a longer shelf life than apples... in an utter display of hypocrisy, read where eu countries are going to the WTO to protest the Russian counter sanctions.... how bout them apples
There will ne NO GDP whatsoever, whitout gas & oil, neither for Baltics, nor for you. You can't help stupid... What's a "nuclear terminal" anyway ? Speaking of "nuclear" though, do you know who is the main producer of uranium in the world and, more importantly, whom are they doing most of their business with ?
You do know that we have at least 2+ year gas reserves right? Norway is still there for us in Baltics, dont forget that US will get in on this opportunity as a long term play.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/oil-gas-exports-us-europe_n_556...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-usa-lng-congress-idUSBREA2O...
Once this is done, Russia will be really irrelevant to Europe. It will be tough for few years if this plays out, but once its over, then Russia can sit on their gas as much as they like :)
Huff post link. Evidence enough
That "US-LNG" story cracks me up every single fucking time... Though, in all truth, to think that so many people can honestly take it seriously it's really depressing. Oh well, more proof (as if it were needed...) that world's IQ is going down...
There are at least three problems with your juvenile arrogance that you try to pass off as reason:
1) Annual gas consumption in the Baltics is 5.4bcm (Latvia 1.5bcm, Estonia 0.7, Lithuania 3.2) while storage capacity at Incukalns UGS is 2.325 bcm of working gas, and cushion gas is 2.145 bcm (which isn't 100% extractable)
http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=3&pid=26&aid=2&c...
http://www.encharter.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Publications/Gas_Storage_...
2) Single point of failure/sabotage - JSC Latvijas Gaze only operates one UGS facility, so if the little green men show up, it's lights out.
3) Your country left the USSR for the EUSSR- if BMW needs natural gas to make luxury cars for Chinese princelings and Wall Street bankers... you will do without, and provide Frau Ferkel whatever she demands and say "thank you" like proper untermenschen, just like the fresh-cut untermenschen Ukies, who are putting (for now it's just) 49% ownership of their UGS capacity on the auction block to satisfy their EUSSR masters.
Go back to HuffPo, we tend to be a slightly higher caliber of snarky smart ass here.
Momma tell your brother tell your papa too, not to do what I have done, spend your life in misery in the house of the rising sun. Doofus
Moron_of_Joy: you fucking idiot. Poland generates over 85% of energy from coal and another 7% from sources other than gas. The RuSSian Mongols can shut off their fucking gas now - the sooner the better. The long term gas contract will be terminated by morons from the East and everyone in Poland will celebrate. Simply some folks in cities will start using their electrical appliances for cooking.
Reading comments by fucking morons like you makes my day. Keep going - good entertainment.
Do you advocate installing screen doors on submarines too?
Perhaps whatever the Polaks use 93.8% of their gas consumption for isn't really that important...
What is it with the propaganda troll work that ZATO has recently been outsourcing to the Yahoo brigades?
http://www.encharter.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Publications/Gas_Storage_...
Natural gas in Poland’s primary energy mix
The share of natural gas in Poland’s primary energy demand, standing at approximately 13%, is low compared to European standards. This results mainly from the dominant role which plays coal – especially the abundantly available lignite – with a more than 60% share in the primary energy consumption. Natural gas is of restricted significance for power generation, accounting for only 6.2% (0.89 bcm) of the total gas demand in 2007.60
In 2008, Poland’s gas demand amounted to 13.5 bcm. Despite a slight decrease in gas consumption on a 2007-2008 basis, annual natural gas demand is expected to rise modestly in future to around 14-15 bcm, with the share of gas in the primary energy mix remaining at 13 to 14 %.
Gas consumption of the residential sector made up for 27.3% of total gas consumption in 2007, followed by the industrial sector with 26.4%. However, interestingly consumption of the residential sector went down slightly over the last decade. Despite an average growth rate of 14.5% annually throughout the last decade gas use for power generation remains restricted, with coal being the dominant electricity production fossil, accounting for more than 87% of power generation in 2007.
Poland’s storage infrastructure today
Polskie Górnictwo Naftowe i Gazownictwo S.A. (PGNiG), Poland’s exclusive storage owner, operates six gas storages. The total working capacity is 1.575 bcm. When referred to the total gas consumption of 13.5 bcm in 2008, the available UGS volume corresponds to around 11.8% of the annual national gas consumption. By this, Poland lacks behind as European gas storages, on average, could provide around 25% of annual consumption.
In natural gas supplies within or to the country. Moreover, the overall maximum withdrawal volume of 33.8 mcm/d and total injection rate of 18.69 mcm/d hinder the Polish gas system to function adequately in extreme peak gas demand times. Paradoxically, the main threat for Poland’s gas supply security lies not so much in the dependence on Russian gas imports, but in the slow extension of storage capacities. As a consequence, PGNiG has stored for several years gas in UGS facilities abroad, mainly in Ukraine. In 2000, Poland held 110 mcm of gas in Ukrainian and Belorussian gas storages. In 2004 and 2005, PGNiG stored 300 mcm and 150 mcm respectively in Western Ukraine’s facilities in the Lvov region.
Don't be childish
There is one Pole who extremely dangerous to world peace: Zbigniew Brzezinski. He's one of the policy makers for the NWO - along with Kissinger and Bush Sr.
Here is a Historian (Webster Tarpley), who made what I think are rather startling predictions in late Oct. 2008 (before Obama was elected the 1st time), when he talks about The Men Behind Obama: Part 1 and Part 2.
Poles are renowned for their sagacity
I heard that some Pols are 10ft tall. I wonder if that's true!
I also heard that the reason it took Hitler only two days to invade Poland was that he had his troops marching backwards and the Poles thought they were leaving.
You mean 1 month between Germany and Russia invading it?
Well, they were dumb enough to rely on their alliance with England and France for their defense... That was very helpfull, indeed.
hey, I didn't know "sagacity" was a synonym for "stupidity"...
I believe he was using what the White folk call 'sarcasm'.
Reminds me of the "Polish Power" Ivan Putsky... from the old WWF days. Looked big and strong, but would be outwitted every match and lose.
Some things never change regardless of setting.
"Polish Power" Ivan Putsky
ye sir
ivan putsky i remember him well
he was a giant a legend of po lack hisstree
the slayer of the tatra.
the strangler of gdansk
the cracker of krakow
the crusher of lodz
ye sir polish puttski
a here ho to all poles.
Poles are joos - non human entities with truncated plasticine sticks.
Given their luck in the past, you would think the Pols would be a bit more mindful.
Poles are in anty-russia hysteria , expect more BS from here.
But...
Watching out popular TV stations it's "impossible" to "think" different.
Poles have good reason to be anti russian, this time their back is not turned. GROM
Yeap, Poles have also many good reasons to be anty german, anty sweden. But that kinda rhetorick is unthinkable down here.
Lets respect each other - stop messing in courtyards - it's still a time to stop this madness.
You know, and I'm just sayin' here - maybe if Poland wasn't such a mouthy bitch it wouldn't get smacked around like it has?
Poland's problem is it talks shit and expects it's treaty pals to bail it's bitch ass out ... and then gets surprised when it's 'allies' just stand around looking at their shoes while Poland gets pummeled.
See: WW2, 50 million dead.
Because Poland.
Instead to be so "smart" - maybe You can try to keep shit out of Your "mouthy" first.
Then You should do the same to our own goverment. Whatever which one.
Then come back as a saint a get smart again.
alas the polish giants must be felled
and taken to the wood shed by putin.
the only thing keeping the jewish nazi army of kiev from cracking is the polish grom and akademie,cia,sas,and israeli teams.
the pole grom is being asked to do the heaviest lifting in ukrainia.
i hope the people of poland are proud of this soros slaughter.
russia should squeeze poland until it goes pop.
Pop Your Balls first Please.
You can't fix stupid.
The Polish really want to fuck with the bear again, they better run faster this time.
Run ? Wise choice, but not in this people POV. Draging rope with bear is kinda national sport, which takes milions souls.
There is a reason for all the Polish jokes out there.
Yes, there is a reason, but it is not what you might be thinking. I was just traveling in Europe and learned that the Polish people are very proud and educated. The are great inovators and engineers and their neighbors are a little jealous. So, all the polish jokes come from jealousy and envy.
Best one yet!
It's only half true.
Some poles thinks that it's 600 years earlier and Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth looks like this :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Polish-Lithuani...
I think that Lithuanian people hates us mostly because that detoriation od Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth was more or less our [poles] fault..
What the fuck.
This hasn't always been the case phuck face. Russians "celebrating" Slovakian independence is more than a little ironic since it was the Slovaks who Allied with Nazi Germany to attack Poland in 1939. More than any place save Germany it was Slovakian weapons that slaughtered Russians by the millions.
Russia was a little late to "Von Ribentrop" (and for the record the German General Staff was ready to have Hitler deposed when he announced his plans for Poland) although I do agree that once Russia saw Poland only had days left "Poland's fate was sealed" when the Mongolian Hoarde arrived.
The Allies really weren't able to do anything until 1993.
Those 2+4 agreements included Russia. I do agree the loss of Ukraine was a profound blow emotionally to Kiev Rus...but starting a war with the entire Continent of Europe over it? Just don't get it...
"I do agree the loss of Ukraine was a profound blow emotionally to Kiev Rus...but starting a war with the entire Continent of Europe over it? Just don't get it..."
Don't get what????
Yielding territory without a fight??? WTF is there to get, this the most basic cause for war. As far as starting war with the entire continent of Europe... It takes two to have a war.
Look at his comment history. He cycles between intelligent and lucid to bat shit crazy. He must be sliding down into the abyss for the long weekend.
disabledvet: while what you wrote is true it is not the whole story...Pols invaded Czechoslovakia first...either way fuck em Pols...they are like the gypsy of europe
http://www.weeklyuniverse.com/2003/poland.htm
I must share a little confession here that I do enjoy reading the comments from Winston Churchill, most of the time if always is too strong, he just nails it down :-)
"You can't fix stupid." True. Likewise... "You can't fix Serf". Not easily.
Poles have been 'bred' (conditioned) into the mindset of a Feudal Serf for centuries -- thanks to the Feudal Aristocrats and Clerical Aristocrats (the RC Church). I don't see them stopping being a Puppet any time soon.
I do see them being the place where the next October Missile Crisis could occur -- all under the FF/Pretext of NATO security as it pertains to Ukraine.
Friday morning de-escalation and diplomacy...NATO style.
I expect the FUD will get quite animated by the end of today, given the long weekend in the US for Summer's last party of the year.
And the Gasprom gas valve jockey has been duly informed...
Nuke em. Nuke em all. Signed, Vicky "Israel-First" Nuland.
putin should just show some proofs of the polish israeli pilots
that shot down that malay plane months ago.
talking of black red boxes
hey london
any news?
London is told what to do and say by the same people who tell America what to do and say.
If those who "Run the West" decide the information release will be to their benefit, it'll be released.
If that's not the case, it wont.
Simple, isn't it.
Polish Joke:
Poland bombed Russia and missed.
Keynan joke:
How many Keynans does it take to screw up America?
Only one. The joke's on America.
"Humanitarian corridor
Earlier Friday, Putin's office said pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine should open a humanitarian corridor for surrounded Ukrainian troops to retreat from the battlefield."
Glad to see somebody has read "The Art Of War" even if it isn't Dopey and Hopey in Washington.
William Binney, former NSA Technical Director and a whistleblower has signed Architects and Engineers petition for a new 9/11 investigation.
http://noliesradio.org/archives/87674
The tide is turning.
Nothing will come out of it. NSA/CIA have complete control of the White House, Congress and the Judiciary with infinite spying that has been going on for decades. Barring a catastrophic event, the land of the free will remain a fascist, police state.
I'm assuming there will be a catastrophic event to ensure the global, fascist police state. If you can kill JFK and get away with it, everything else is a cake-walk. I simply cannot imagine any catastrophe that does not benefit them, given their control of the public indoctrination systems known as education and media.
Shit, I remember the watching the first tower fall, and noticing that the tipping top of the building quit tipping and just disappeared in a cloud of dust. At that instant it was obvious things weren't what was being portrayed, yet here we are, all those years later.
While one might think that these loose ends will unravel their plans, instead it bolstered them via divide and conquer. The average person has too much of their identity invested in the criminal facade d.b.a. "government" to ever consider the possibility they are culpable for supporting this evil. So, what do they do instead, but attack the messenger for a lack of patriotism.
BEWARE OF NUKE 9/11
Repost it again from other thread earlier.
The War of 2015 – Part 3 – Nuclear False Flag
America has a long, long history with either using a false flag attack to start a war, or luring an opponent into attacking the US – which is just another version of a false flag.
Why We Need False Flags
The answer is easy. Ninety nine percent of all human beings actually hate war – at least, those who know what war actually is like. I’ve spent a lot of time studying war and living in war zones, and I hate war with a passion.
Yesterday, I described the propaganda that washes over you, each and every day. And, you would think that such psychological operations by the US government and bankster elites would be enough. But, we are made of sterner stuff, and that means that the elites always need to resort to the ‘false flag’ – to bring us to the point of war.
The War That They Want
Unfortunately, the 9/11 attack in 2001 raised the bar really high. The attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon set a new standard for such attacks, which means that the next one will need to be much, much bigger. America is tired of war, so this will need to be an enormous shock to the American system – to rouse Americans with the kind of energy needed to invade the Middle East, again.
The Nuclear 9/11 Story
Well, Barack Obama said this in March:
Then, in June, we had Dick Cheney put this out:
Dick Cheney: There will be an attack on America within the next decade; worse than 9/11
YouTube shortlink: http://youtu.be/qrD7N2JMaJc
In THAT video, he talks about a nuclear attack on Washington and martial law. Of course, he said ‘within a decade’.
But, he didn’t stop there:
Dick Cheney: ISIS Will Nuke US
Now, that was a couple of months ago. And the rhetoric needed to be pumped up again, because this year’s September 11th was approaching fast. So, here is Dick, just six days ago, at it again: - Hannity / Cheney: ‘Absolutely Certain There Will Be Another Mass Casualty Attack Against U.S.’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULFfJrWs6kU - He said that the murder of James Foley will be repeated a million times over. - Wait, a million times? … as in a million people dead in a nuclear 9/11?
-- Read on here.
Release the fucking asteroid already!!
imma keep sayin...
vlad needs to stop playin with these EU bitches and start droppin the hammer and slangin' that sickle.....
POLAND BLOCKS FLIGHT OF RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTER'S PLANE: RIA
Maybe they were just asking him to wait a little bit while they figured out how to shoot it down.
"How do you stop a Polish army on horseback? Turn off the carousel."
http://polackjokes.com/
FU I'm form Poland :)
A 747 recently crashed in a cemetery in Poland.
Polish officials have so far retrieved 4000 bodies.
I'll never forgive the Poles for defeating the Ottomans at the Gates of Vienna. We've been slaves to coffee ever since...
.... and to the croissant.
At least it beats the Engish breakfast.
Just sayin.....
When it's freezing cold outside, with horizontal sleet, and you've got a 30 minute cycle ride to work, I'll prefer the English Breakfast over Croissants anyday.
Scott's Porridge Oats are a pretty good start to the day too . . . . . .
I thought the answer was "tell them the NKVD is waiting across the field".
better tell them :
Michail Tuchaczewski is riding !
you'll soon find out what will happen.
But still is that really a matter ?
We got our differences but apart of our regimes we can live together
Tuchaczewski was a brilliant man brought down by Stalin's terror state. If you have a chance look up his works, they formed the basis of operation Bagration, he was one of the greatest military thinkers out there. He is the most defining example of everything wrong with the Soviet system and Stalin's paranoid state machine.
How many Polack jokes are there?
One—the rest are all true!
Since you can speak with authority on this matter, one can only assume you are the one true Polack Joke.
No cares...Everyone at the Hamptons watching polo..and lighting cigers....
If only ISIS/Al-CIA-duh was real. With the Hamptons in the Summer, and The Masters golf tournament in the Spring never being attacked (nor Israel), it's blatantly obvious exactly who owns these abstractions.
If you don't stop kicking the snot out of our Kiev backed regulars (with our mercs commanding them) why we'll... we'll... we'll... we'll be forced to block your flights through our Country on your way home!...
U.S.A. ... U.S.A. ... U.S.A. ...!
Chicken shit pussy cowards...
Oh you dirty Polacks you block my plain? you forgot 70's when you were starving and I shipped you pigs and cows by the train loads with Russian stamps on them.
Ok so the pigs and cows wear from Hungary but it was still a humanitarian deed.
Love Putin
Ps dont fuck with mother Russias son!
Now look who is talking?
Ok, how many times was it that the USA and Britain send food aid to you fucks over the cold war? These aid packages started just after WWI.
Countless times you corrupt and arrogant Russians needed assistance. And you will again.
And now you talk of a mismanagement of the Russians of Poland to the point of starvation as some reason for Nicey Nice with you fuckers?
You Russians can't fight (yes, you can die for sure is massive human wave assaults), can't manage your own affairs, can't help but try to steal from others to cover your incompetence...what a joke.
Start getting your democracy back, why don't you?
Youre embarrasing polish people.
As ive said on here before not all polish people think like this brainwashed nut..however the media in poland is extremely anti russian..its entirely controlled by the us as is our gov.
Thats why smart poles emigrate...and im not referring to the idiots who emigrate to the uk.
To the idiot who I responded to:
If given a choice would you fight a stronger opponent who will destroy you to avenge something that happened generations ago and did not involve the current people you fight; and in the meantime get robbed and used by a new evil
Or
Would you stop a similar massacre and abuse from happening in the present by actually realizing who is the new abuser that sends you to your death?
Sadly I think the idiot above my comment doesnt realize he is contributing to a new evil as it lures him into fighting people whom have made peace long ago
@ TungstenBars
the harsh reality that the local media is practically all bought up by TPTB is not unique to Poland; it happens too in where I live (thus i stopped reading the presstitudes a couple of years ago), they all source their international news from Reuters/AP/AFP/BBC//DW/including the SIX Mega Media Corps, the bunch of armies from the Ministry of Truth, also the local govt is not free from The Oligarch influences.
However, the fact that those who frequent ZH board wasting so much of their time here and remaining not able to grasp the TRUE picture of all the messes in this world, include but not limited to Syrian and Ukrainian crises, IMO leave only TWO possibilities about their real profiles:
1) brainless bigots; or
2) trolls or shills from various agencies
(search also for the agency-created virtual/automat "Internet Personas", read the stories many years ago) (a brief on what's troll vs. shill)
I have no wonder at all a place as famous as ZH attracts a bunch of swarming net mercenaries :-) lol
Here's an interesting recent real story about the Double Identity penetration at some forum: http://bitly.com/double-identity
novictim, you're so true!
Indeed the USA had been sending aid to the USSR long ago, even before the World War II.
I just finished the chapter one of "FROM MAJOR JORDAN'S DIARIES", a fascinating record of the American's great contribution to the USSR.
"Before you read the shocking revelations from Major Jordan's Diaries about the billions of dollars, airplanes, tanks, munitions, foodstuffs, whole factories, blueprints and material for building the Atomic Bomb, personal luxuries for ...rulers, as well as the paper and plates enabling them to print U.S. Federal Reserve Notes -- all this sent to the U.S.S.R. from UN Depot No 8, Newark, N.J., U.S.A., -- let us set the scene.
[...] http://bitly.com/majorjordansdiariesWhy should I believe this more than any other version of history?
"Why should I believe this more than any other version of history?"
@ ebear, GOOD QUESTION!
PART 1 OF 2
Coz one can read all the False Flag Operations here as well:
History of American False Flag Operations
http://www.911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html
Which lists a bunch of DIVERSIFIED REFERENCES/BOOKS, which you of course may go on VERIFYING ONE BY ONE if YOUR unbelief substantiates that much :-)
Why the Pearl Harbor took place
Robert B. Stinnett: Day of Deceit: the Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor, 2000
Mark Emerson Wiley: Pearl Harbour - mother of all conspiracies
(geocities.com gone long ago, acquired by Yahoo - read it at the Wayback Machine cache or at WHAT REALLY HAPPENED)
Cordell Hull's Ultimatum to Japan
(geocities.com gone long ago, acquired by Yahoo - read it at the Wayback Machine cache)
What the US usually knew in advance (books)
Fredrick W. Winterbotham: The Ultra secret, 1974
Bradley F. Smith: The Ultra-Magic Deals, 1992
F.H.Hinsley: British Intelligence in the WW2 (4 large volumes), 1988
How to create innocent-looking wars
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/
How wars are made
http://tacklingthetoughtopics.net/default.htm -- damned it, domain for sale but you may search around for the traces
Especially these items: World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, The Vietnam War
How to create distant future wars
The Best Enemy Money Can Buy by Antony C. Sutton
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/index.html
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/index.html
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html
And supposed you ever feel that above refs are not yet convincing, I may add few more names and/or references here in addition to the great Sutton above:
"Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" (2004) by John Perkins
This is the inside story of how America turned from a respected republic into a feared empire.
“Economic hit men,” John Perkins writes, “are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder.”
John Perkins should know—he was an economic hit man. His job was to convince countries that are strategically important to the U.S.—from Indonesia to Panama—to accept enormous loans for infrastructure development and to make sure that the lucrative projects were contracted to Halliburton, Bechtel, Brown and Root, and other United States engineering and construction companies. Saddled with huge debts, these countries came under the control of the United States government, World Bank, and other U.S.-dominated aid agencies that acted like loan sharks—dictating repayment terms and bullying foreign governments into submission.
This extraordinary real-life tale exposes international intrigue, corruption, and little-known government and corporate activities that have dire consequences for American democracy and the world.
Perkins is far away from being the lone voice in explaining our world today! Many earlier great authors already pointed out the precarious and sinister developments, just check these names:
EZRA POUND
EUSTACE MULLINS
GARY ALLEN (his classic book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy")
G. EDWARD GRIFFIN (The Creature from Jekyll Island);... go and buy the author's classic reference about the Federal Reserve: "The Creature from Jekyll Island, 5th Edition" (2010). Note: the latest 5th Edition includes new chapter covering the 2008 GFC.
Find it at the author's provided link, online bookstore Midas ResourcesRead also the short book by W. Cleon Skousen titled: "The Naked Capitalist," written as a commentary on a 1300 page tome by Dr. Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor!) It will tell you all you need to know about how the current imperium was put on this path of inevitable destruction. When Quigley wrote the book in 1969: "Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time", he felt safe in publishing it because he thought there was no turning back by then. Quigley died in 1977. From the way things are going, he may very well have been right.
Tragedy and Hope: Professor Carroll Quigley
http://j.mp/MMd0HD
Tragedy And Hope: A History Of The World In Our Time (1966) by CARROLL QUIGLEY
Somehow one of the most revealing books ever published slipped through the editorial of offices of one of the major publishing houses in New York and found it way into the bookstores of America in 1966.
Professor Quigley was an extraordinarily gifted historian and geo-political analyst. The insights and information contained in his massive study open the door to a true understanding of world history in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a work of exceptional scholarship and is truly a classic. The author should have received a Nobel Prize for his work.
In 1961 Carroll Quigley published "The Evolution of Civilizations". It was derived from a course he taught on world history at Georgetown University. "Quigley coupled enormous capacity for work with a peculiarly "scientific" approach. He believed that it should be possible to examine the data and draw conclusions. As a boy at the Boston Latin School, his academic interests were mathematics, physics, and chemistry. Yet during his senior year he was also associate editor of the Register, the oldest high school paper in the country. His articles were singled out for national awards by a national committee headed by George Gallup.
At Harvard, biochemistry was to be his major. But Harvard, expressing then a belief regarding a well-rounded education to which it has now returned, required a core curriculum including a course in the humanities. Quigley chose a history course, "Europe Since the Fall of Rome." Always a contrary man, he was graded at the top of his class in physics and calculus and drew a C in the history course. But the development of ideas began to assert its fascination for him, so he elected to major in history. He graduated magna cum laude as the top history student in his class.
Grab the pdf here (multimirrors, some link(s) are tested still alive, try ge tt)@ ebear: "Why should I believe this more than any other version of history?"
PART 2 OF 2
The Federal Reserve Cartel: The Eight Families By DEAN HENDERSON
(Part One of a Five-part series)
The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.
According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.[1] So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks? This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds.
This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe. One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation - founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley. [2]
[...]
LEFT HOOK by Dean Henderson
And do not just stop here, go, please go on spending some bucks to buy the author's great book :) he deserves it much as all other great authors spending their time taking their risks telling the truths!!
"Big Oil & Their Bankers In The Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Narcotics & Terror Network" By Dean Henderson
An International Best Seller! Now in its 3rd Edition!
Big Oil pulls back the covers to expose a centuries-old cabal of global oligarchs, whose hegemony over the global economy is based on control of the planet’s three most valuable commodities: oil, guns and drugs- combined with ownership of the world’s central banks. Henderson implicates these oligarchs in orchestrating of a string of conspiracies from Pearl Harbor to the Kennedy Assassination to 911. He follows the trail of dirty money up the food chain to the interbred Eight Families who- from their City of London base- control the Four Horsemen of Oil, the global drug trade and the permanent war economy. Big Oil shines a giant spotlight on the Money Power that secretively rules the world.
GOOD LUCK! WISH YOU GOOD READING...NOW AND COMING HOLIDAYS...
serious reading is really a bitch in this digital distraction era :-)
Aldous Huxley DID warn us about this distraction long ago in his book: Brave New World.
I posted the info earlier here: #5143631
My hat now goes off to Poland.
No country should allow such shit and filth to overfly their land.
Perhot' podzalupnaya! Schlukha privokzalnoya!
Ppl are saying that about the Euros flocking into the UK.
Yeah the zio-Poles should do what the zio-Ukies do - shoot down passenger jets with innocent people on board.
I'm surprised Poland still has an air force.
Guess who finances it...
Me? (via the proxy of being a dollar holder)
Where do they position the girth strap ?
Why did the plane need to cross Polish airspace on the way from Slovakia to Russia? What was the real destination? Secret meetings in Germany?
On second thought, they probably didn't want to cross Uke airspace.
Yeah, that would've been an official invasion of Ukraine. Then again, we may see this act spun as "Poland stopping a Russian invasion" by the end of today.
you have openstreetmaps to look at,. He was here our guest, to commemorate the start of the fighting in 1944 against Hitler army here in Slovakia.
All you bright, forward thinking ZH'rs work this through with me.
Do you really think it is a good idea to fuck with the LARGEST country in the world about overflight privileges?
What is absolutely incredible is none of these countries seem to care about the long term. They are tossing 20 years of progress simply because some neocon cunt was determined to spread chaos.
The Europeans are clinging to the notion of a single American hegemon.
What stupidity.
Realize that you're talking about less than 1% of the population that holds power. Then realize how they obtained it.
Abstract collectives can never represent masses of individuals, as we all think for ourselves. As for their support of the governing structure, like all, they merely accept their powerlessness lest they provide the criminals in charge with a mandate for change.
You are about to find out that Russia doesn't count in the scheme of things. It simply does not matter. Russia has always been a european joke. It will continue to be one. Europe gets its jollies by beating Russia like a Pinata.
That was the stupidest thing I have read here. This includes disabledvet off his meds.
You want to run that by the folks again there skippy? Exactly which euro country has beaten Russia?
Tsar Putin needs to throw another boomerang at the EU. This time prohibiting EU based airlines from flying over the vast expanse of Russia. Airlines based in the EU (This includes Polish airlines LOT) will need to fly over Alaska to reach Asia. This will cost the EU based airlines millions. Russia also needs to block Polish exports through Russia.
Boomerangs can be a bitch!~
You completely botched the metaphor of a boomerang. Hahahaha. Must be Russian.
The zio-oligarchs stole all of Russia's wealth backed by Yeltsin. Yeltsin picks a reluctant Putin to be the new lackey. Putin comes in and starts kicking ass on day one. He kicks all the oligarchs out. They flee to Israel, London, Canada and the USA.
Oh that Polonium thing in London? Some people think that was Berezovsky who did that not Putin, he is now dead.
So Yeltsin may have been the dumbest guy for picking Putin the ass kicker or he was a patriot.
Check out the videos of Putin when Yeltsin picks him. He looks like an unconfident guy who hates the limelight. He sure changed.
The zio-oligarchs are still furious at Putin for taking back the Russian wealth and assets they stole.
Oh BTW. No more Poles in the UK pls.
Who's gonna take care of the plumbing?
Or Holland. They destroyed the labour market.
The USA and their lackeys are really provoking and poking the bear. Putin knows the time and how late it is - he is in no hurry. He just will not give the states the excuse for being the reason for the global economic collapse. I think he just has to suffer another few months and America will just have to give in and admit that there is no outside reason for the Collapse that is comming. Kudos to Putin - he knows which fights to fight!
We are not going to just poke this clown bear when it comes down to it.
Pay back for 70 years of oppression is going to be a bitch for Mother Russians.
You need to get out from under Princess Putin ASAP. This is not going to be sweet and tender for you.
Wat??????
Couldn't understand a word you said due to your mumbling!
It's hard to understand these morons, because their faces are so far up NATO ass...
Which reminds me to ramp up production of my plastic see though belly button, sold for pms rubles and yuan only, no paypal.
"Pay back for 70 years of oppression is going to be a bitch for Mother Russians. "
December 26, 1991 - Breakup of the USSR.
Taking the age of majority as 18, no one in Russia today under the age of 40 had anything to do with the USSR.
Come after me for something my forebears did, or are accused of doing, you'll get a righteous ass kicking from me and my homeboys.
Now if you'll excuse me - I have some Norman ass to go kick over the invasion of 1066. Those fuckers are gonna pay dearly for that.
Get prepared for the next false flag, same as it ever was.
Just shoot the plain down with those pears you'r left over with.
If that doesn't turn the gas valve to close i don't know what will.
Negotiations???? If I were Russian Defense minister I would have told the pilots to keep flying and let those Polish worms try something. And while you are at, do a flyby of the control tower in Warsaw. The fuck you gonna do about, go eat some garagekeys and be happy we don't do a replay of Katyn Forrest.
Putin should fire his yellow ass immediatley and send him to a work camp in Siberia.
support poland
the land of the giants
buy freedom apples today.
eat poland
taste free dumb
I love the poetry man. I even up voted you again. It is just going to take some time to get over you Merkel bikini dance your hit me with the other day. That was just painful.
They really got pissed about the apples
Good idea, Poland - give Russia the idea that maybe it should close *its* airspace to NATO-country/allied planes.
If I were Putin I'd put about 100 new ICBMs in Kalingrad to "defend it from Polish aggression."
Because fuck Poland - that's why.
Afraid it's been done already, sport !
Interesting updates today on Saker's website. The Junta is getting ass-pounded.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/08/august-29th-1535-utczulu-ukrai...
Is it time for another plane crash to take out the Polish gov? Katyn forest look out!
True story:
I know of a Polish dude in my area who immigrated over here with a very unfortunate name - Adam Shitz. Later he had a chance to change his name in order sound more local ...Now he is called John Shitz.
You shouldn't talk about your Dad like that.
Poland had the chance to save itself in 1939 when the Soviet Union, France and Britain offered a military alliance. Poland refused, believing it could fight off Nazi Germany with "help" (which never came) from France & Britain.
They have learned nothing.
could there be a more stupid country then Poland?....gotta look really hard to fnd one,
no there isn't
ahhh maybe DE
ahhh maybe ussa
no the Poles without a doubt.
the old polish jokes were not jokes.
Russia.
Well the USA voted for Obama twice.
Think again and take another look at Ukraine. Of course Porky probably has Polish advisors.
Problem with Poland is all the hicks. Agriculture is something luke 38% of the economy. All those rednecks vote for reactionary USA-dick-sucking politicians.
"could there be a more stupid country then Poland?"
Liberia
Idiots.
http://www.interfax.ru/394071
August 29, 2014 20:02Moscow. on August 29. INTERFAX.RU - the Polish authorities gave permission for the passage through the country's airspace the aircraft with Russian defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on Board.
"The situation was resolved. Obtained permission for the flight. The plane can fly," said to "Interfax" the press attache of the Russian Embassy in Warsaw Valeria Pirinska.
Answering the question of why the incident occurred and how it explains the Polish side, press attaché said, "These issues are now in the process of hearing. While we do not comment".
Previously appeared in the media information, according to which the Tu-154 Russian defense Minister, returning to Russia after a visit to Slovakia, does not pass through the airspace of Poland.
I hope the Poles are fire eaters, playing with that kind of fire and all
Winter is coming... Bitchez
Tusk and the boys must have shit in their pants when they heard that. Seven years of rolling over, down the proverbial "shitter". ;)
'Lots of ignorant comments being made on this board today including the enduring myth that Poles lack intelligence?
For the sake of argument, if that were true, would someone please explain to me why the public educational system in Poland is currently rated among the best in the world, and that Polish students regularly excel in Mathematics and science at levels far above their contemporaries in the United States, and many other countries?
Polish students regularly excel in Mathematics and science at levels far above their contemporaries in the United States, and many other countries?
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Discoun scores from Latinos and Blacks, and Poland is nowhere near the US.
take my meaning?
' suggest you read, The Smartest kids in the World, And How they got that Way"by Amanda Ripley. This nonfiction book describes the best public educational systems in the world today including those of Finland, Korea, and Poland. It's an interesting,if not surprising read.
"Polish students regularly excel in Mathematics and science at levels"
Too easy, because philosophy, history and logic are not on the curriculum. Next
Keep cracking those jokes. My respect for ZH's audience keeps falling. You clowns bought into the "Putin is great, US sucks" propaganda line, hook, and sinker. Allow me to help you with the explanation of some upcoming events, just so you aren't surprised when it happens:
- Russian's incursion into Ukraine will be defeated. I don't know how many Ukrainians will die or how many cities the so-called "rebels" will take over. Enough Ukrainians will fight to the death to make this incursion very costly for Russia.
- Putin will be deposed, and most likely killed within the next 2 years. Either outside or, more likely, internal factions will get rid of him. He is a poor version of Hitler, less clever and more unstable. His own people will turn on him.
- Russia will undergo a very dramatic transformation. It might survive as a country, but the level of power decentralization will rock your socks.
- Poland will become one of the major players in the upcoming years, and will be one of the main US alies in the region. Keep on cracking those jokes.
- Despite your hatred for US policy, and there is plenty to criticise, on the whole, US is playing a positive role in the world. The "US is bad, therefore whoever is against it must be good" thinking is a logical falacy.
u r free to leave these pages and surf elswhere, maybe CNN?