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White House Scrambles To 'Clarify' Obama's "ISIS Strategy"

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"Strategy" or "No Strategy"? Minutes after last night's admission by the President that "we don't have a strategy yet," the White House public relations department went into full damage control mode. Shameless spokesman Josh Earnest used the word "strategy" 33 times in a brief interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer and this morning the "clarifications" continue. As NBC reports, “The president hasn't yet laid out a specific plan for military action in Syria,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest. “And the reason for that is simply that the Pentagon is still developing that plan and he is still reviewing it.” This seems to us like yet another admission that there is 'no strategy' akin to being half pregnant.


Seemed pretty clear what he meant?


Word Cloud of CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview with Josh Earnest


But no - The White House says we just don't get it...

“The president hasn't yet laid out a specific plan for military action in Syria,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest. “And the reason for that is simply that the Pentagon is still developing that plan and he is still reviewing it.”


Obama drew criticism Thursday when he said “we don’t have a strategy yet” to strike Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in Syria.


“The president was candid about the fact that the Pentagon is still reviewing options that may be available to him,” Earnest said.


He added that the U.S. has taken military action against ISIS in Iraq and that the U.S, has a comprehensive strategy that includes working with regional powers to stop the militants.

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If you like your strategy, you can keep your strategy... or the dog ate it.


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Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:35 | 5159351 aleph0
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The Covert Origins of ISIS

Evidence exposing who put ISIS in power, and how it was done

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:39 | 5159386 nope-1004
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Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:53 | 5159467 Terminus C
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This is brilliant.

The president says, "We have no strategy for defeating ISIS".

People and press go nuts, "What do you mean you have no strategy? We must have a strategy to defeat these crazy islamofascists!  Get to work Mr. President!"

Administration "comes up" with a plan (that they had all along).

The people and the press cheer definitive action and its a go.

This public relations strategy of saying "we don't have a strategy" guides the discussion away from "should we get involved?" to "why aren't we involved yet?"


Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:08 | 5159554 disabledvet
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Then after you start enacting heir action plan according to their diktats you then get attacked for doing something.

Maybe instead of golf he should try baseball.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:33 | 5159665 knukles
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"Clarify" what strategy?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:13 | 5159821 MarsInScorpio
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Tell me, after reading the story about not being at war with IS, and yesterday Obama admitting he has weeks for golfing, but no time to devote to dealing with the IS threat – how do you continue to take “Joshing Earnestly” as anything but a buffoon?

The reality that Obama has to admit he is completely without a plan for IS is the most frightening words I have ever heard spoken by an American president. He is admitting, in a summary exposition of his mental health, what others have said all along – “I am mentally and emotionally incompetent for this office, I am not able to mentally and emotionally handle the requirements of this office, and all of you are on your own because I’m no longer mentally and emotionally connected to the responsibilities of this office – I have mentally and emotionally disconnected from reality and now exist in a bubble of my fancy. Good luck – I’ve already mentally and emotionally checked-out of the presidency.”

This weekend plan with no time to dealing with IS - again - but rather only with positive bubbles where he is hailed as a super-hero, shows just how far Obama is gone.

Seriously. Stop lying to yourself about it. He is a broken man.

Obama is suffering from an evolving mental breakdown. He is down to only appearing before highly reinforcing groups, or escaping completely onto the golf course.

The reality that he spent no time developing a strategy for IS shows he is no longer capable – mentally – of facing up to complex issues that do not give him immediate gratification the way fundraisers and golfing do.

Forget impeachment – the 25th Amendment is going to get him out of office.

His mental illness – the inability to cope with his life in its reality, and thus his need to escape to comforting bubbles of time and people – is going to grow worse over time.

You are watching Barack Obama move every day deeper, and deeper, into the darkness of depression and self-deconstruction. In simpler terms, Barack Obama is mentally melting down into mental oblivion.

No matter how much Joshing Earnestly tries to cover for him.


Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:55 | 5159482 Save_America1st
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Ummm....let's see, I'll take a quick crack at this one here:

The fucking strategy is how to continue acting like they're actually "bombing" the "bad guys" to smithereens whilst actually missing everything of relevance, especially the majority of these dirt crawlers themselves, so that our psychopathic government can keep these fuck-tards in power for years and years to come as a fake enemy in order to be able to use them against the rest of the world as the so-called "terrorists" so that the governments, i.e. the ACTUAL TERRORISTS can continue to fuck us all over and force us into total authoritarianism. 

That's the fucking strategy.


Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:06 | 5159547 thamnosma
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Even if IS is a group that's gone rogue, that they really wish they could put back in the bottle (they really do NOT control every move in the world), there is no strategy to be had.  Anything the Obama fools come up with can only make things worse, again.  Just for argument's sake, let's say the goal would be to defeat IS, destroy it, put Iraq back together again, how the hell would that be accomplished?  By drones and bombers?  By limited bombing or carpet bombing?  By destroying Mosul?  Then add to that the IS areas in Syria.  Would that strategy be to even further fund and arm the other extremist rogue jihadist groups operating there?

So I figure the Regime will do "something" and hope some other news story replaces this one. 

Islamic State is here to stay.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:57 | 5159768 Bloppy
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Survey: Dems rank ‘climate change’ ahead of ISIS, al-Qaeda, Russia, Iran, NKorea


Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:47 | 5159427 thamnosma
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Put that on "watch later", hope he's got some real info there.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:57 | 5159503 williambanzai7
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Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:24 | 5159629 Ozy_mandias
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Er'body needs to watch this

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:27 | 5159639 oldmule
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Obama is a Sunni. The tribe He is from a Kenya Sunni Of course He does not have a plan. He is not going to attack his own people, people fro his tribe. He plans to make the US into a Muslim country. By letting ISIS attack Saudi Arabia that will create millions of immigrant's looking to escape who will be coming to the US.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 06:35 | 5161899 Idaho potato head
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Ultimately this leads to war with China and Russia per the brezinky doctrine .

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:34 | 5159352 nope-1004
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Let me be perfectly clear.  I have no strategy.


Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:49 | 5159438 Kirk2NCC1701
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Let me be perfectly clear.  I have no strategy.  That I can share with you.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:54 | 5159484 forensicator
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Let me be perfectly clear.  I have no strategy.  Until my handlers tell me what it is.... then I still wont understand it until i read about it in the New York Times..

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:34 | 5159353 Winston Churchill
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Obozo has a strategy.Avoid sand traps.

Might work in the MENA as well.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:35 | 5159354 SloMoe
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If you like your "ISIS Strategy," you can keep your "ISIS Strategy."

Oh wait...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:34 | 5159355 Uncle Sugar
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O should go and negotiate with them directly. 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:36 | 5159364 Winston Churchill
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Head to head .

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:35 | 5159361 tuttisaluti
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Just nuke em. The colateral will be a couple of 100000 moslems, but they are part of the problem.

now you can down vote me



Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:39 | 5159380 Grande Tetons
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Killing somebody else's kids for Oil is not worth the effort. I will buy a horse instead. 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:46 | 5159425 Itchy and Scratchy
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Those 20 arabs sure made a mistake heading up to northern Iraq and tryin' to make a move on a few oil wells! I thin they sent half of the USAF after them within an hour of their arrival! Lol! U can bet they won't be doin' that again any time soon!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:48 | 5159439 thamnosma
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stupid on so many levels. 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:57 | 5159491 Terminus C
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I particularly like the level of stupid where he is willing to murder hundreds of thousands of people that have never hurt him or his family in any way.  All because the idea of them makes him uncomfortable.

Unfortunately I think his thinking is well represented in our society.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:09 | 5159559 thamnosma
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Have seen some mainstream comment boards where such comments are the norm.  Depressing.  Yeah, let's start nuking the planet.  No blowback from that sort of move.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:05 | 5159521 earleflorida
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your logic is the same as adolf hitler... asinine!  a few jews pissed him off, so the crazy kills off a few million with a age old rationale... 'guilt by association'. never did any war have a strategy other than money as the root cause...

now, with all the crazy's isis mimicking our nazi-style`despotism, the've been given a sanctimonious allah doxology?!?

beheading is symbolic, but, dropping 500lb bombs on villages is moar humane? 

ps. during every war the belligerents, and allies filmed mass execution! maccarthur would sit in a jeep and have his captains, colonels carry out the slaughter in north korean war, etel, etc.! no country-- no matter how honourable their [good]intentions are the path that, 'leads us all to hell'! all countries have performed atrocities for verification[?] to be sent to hq and later to be archived for your personal pleasure?!?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:41 | 5159695 Freddie
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Hitler was a puppet for the banksters.  Dave Cameron's family of German jewish banksters have worked for teh red shield for centuries financing wars. Check Wiki.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:36 | 5159365 bardot63
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The Pentagon has strategies on the shelf for every possible scenario, including your home town if you go Ferguson, Mo.  Obummer does have a stategy---to let Islamic criminals win all they real estate they can before the 2017 inauguration of the next prez.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:37 | 5159373 saints51
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Syria does have allies that are not US friendly right now. Then again this might be the play to draw Russia into a war with the US. Sanctions not working so lets fuck with Syria.Just my 2 cents.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:49 | 5159412 Winston Churchill
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Iran and Syria have a mutual defence pact.

Iran has good anti carrier missiles ,and I doubt Saudi Qatar or Turkey will let the US

fly strikes from their bases.Suicidal, and a bad precedent.

I don't see how the US hits Syria without risking widespread war, even without Russia

supporting its ally,Syria.

All boxed in.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:50 | 5159451 saints51
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Good points Winston. Logistics are a total nightmare.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:38 | 5159381 Joebloinvestor
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Barry can just make a decree and wave his hand.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:15 | 5159589 max2205
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Killing brown's what we do.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:38 | 5159382 The Fonz...befo...
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That cream colored suit has to be some sort of code or's in motion

It's on people code beige....what the hell is going on there? He looks like a realtor

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:48 | 5159428 nmewn
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Carter of Malaise Speech infamy liked that color too.

Cute, isn't it? ;-)

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:01 | 5159516 Dick Gazinia
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It makes it difficult to spot the "Regey Spunk" dripping off the lapel.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:56 | 5159489 CrimsonAvenger
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Yes We Tan.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:39 | 5159383 Chupacabra-322
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Should read:

"White House Scrambles to Script Together More CIA Fasle Narrative's, Propaganda & PsyOp."

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:38 | 5159384 Fuku Ben
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What's a girlie man to do?

Maybe he could consult Michael during a sodomy session

Or one of his dual citizen death cult cabinet members

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:39 | 5159390 Racer
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Is this like the known unknowns or the unknown unknowns?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:40 | 5159395 Itchy and Scratchy
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What a big pile of steamin' dog shite! 'Scrambling for a strategy!!!!' Lol! Wayyyy beyond pathetic!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:41 | 5159399 world_debt_slave
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can't make chiken soup from chiken shit

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:42 | 5159404 astoriajoe
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why have a presser if you don't have a plan?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:21 | 5159616 disabledvet
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This is a good question. No good answer to it either. "Ummm...hello. We're over there right now. Do we had a plan for that?"

Seems to be signaling a "waiting game" but waiting for what seems to be the main question to me. "To get attacked!" is the only answer I can come up with. "Then not do anything about that either."

He's like the French between 1939-1940. "Lotta jibber jabber here" but some "mystical defense system" means the other side is allowed to attack first, not us.

"Collective Security" is not some abstract concept either.

The President could offer NATO membership to Putin actually..."right back at ya, phucker."

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:44 | 5159407 nmewn
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Gawd, please don't tell me people twice elected an arrogant, narcissistic, national socialist freeloader who never had a strategy in his life except spending other peoples money.

Don't like the word "socialist"?

Look at the welfare rolls, look at ObamaCare, look at the shattered rule of law and then deal with what you see.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:45 | 5159420 Inthemix96
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Adding injury to insult.  Or something like that.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:58 | 5159501 RighteousDude
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Amen Brother!!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:44 | 5159408 Itchy and Scratchy
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What is up with these Whitehouse Defense Pentagon CIA types workin' around the clock 24-7!??? Nobody in government works past 2pm on Fridays or after 3pm during the week!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:47 | 5159430 astoriajoe
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Isn't there some union rule that needs to be enforced?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:48 | 5159435 Mike Masr
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Yes, it is pathetic. He had a strategy when he was screwing us all with obozo-care!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:51 | 5159457 thamnosma
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I believe the strategy of removing secular Arab leaders, promoting Islamic radicals and creating regional chaos has been quite successful.  


The Islamic State is here to stay.  Waiting for the first government to recognize them and open embassies.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:55 | 5159476 Kirk2NCC1701
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Obama: "I have consulted with Congress throughout this process"

IBID: "I have consulted with [TPTB throughout this process, and conveyed this to] Congress throughout this process"

There, UN-REDACTED it for you!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:54 | 5159481 Itchy and Scratchy
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The Kenyan is thinking to himself : 'You made me cancel my tee-off time for this lame hysteria scam?'

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 13:57 | 5159496 Yancey Ward
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According to reports from anonymous sources in the White House, Obama' new strategy is to use the 7 iron off the tee on every hole.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:00 | 5159513 I Write Code
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So we're bombing ISIS and putting hundreds of US boots on the ground, and we ain't got no strategy.

I wonder if that's how he plays golf, just sort of hits the ball in random directions.  Probably.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:02 | 5159525 Itchy and Scratchy
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It's gonna be hard to come up with a strategy if there ain't no problem!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:01 | 5159517 Amish Hacker
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No strategy for undoing the clusterfuck we created? Sounds like we're about to have an outcome, not a solution.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:04 | 5159535 Itchy and Scratchy
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That's about it! Think of dog chasing tail @ 100 m.p.h.! All of these freaks don't know their bung hole from the 3rd hole!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:01 | 5159523 Spastica Rex
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It's important to be Earnest; it makes one more believable.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:03 | 5159530 Bonecrusher
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Obama had a strategy on his laptop, but his hard drive crashed, and he doesn't have a backup.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:04 | 5159539 kchrisc
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"We have no strategy for defeating ISIS"."

And some still believe CIA-Obama to be "anti-Israel."

Makes me laugh just thinking about it.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:06 | 5159541 Joe Tierney
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Maybe O'Bonga should ask the Muslim Botherhood for a strategerie. They probbly have a few left over from their Egypt gig that you got'em.


Or he could ass that war skank Hitlery klintoon for a strategerie - she's got plenty.


The Spentagon ain't got no damn strategeries - budgey cuts got them all thrown out.


Ask Iran for a strategerie - work wit 'em - they don't dig ISIS.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:08 | 5159558 Jethro
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Obama's policy is Pivotman in Circle Jerk

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:12 | 5159576 SAT 800
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Josh Earnest? WTF. I'm not listening to any government anouncements from nobody named Josh Earnest. That's ridiculous.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:47 | 5159720 The Fonz...befo...
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I know lol first it was Jay Carney...Carny barker
Then they go with Josh Earnest

I'm telling you the way things are going with this admin...the next WH press secretary name is going to be Armand Geddon

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:33 | 5159914 flyingcaveman
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I'm going to change my name to Bull Shitington and apply for that job. 

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:21 | 5159588 sosoome
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He must have some sort of strategy. I mean, you don't just willy nilly reduce defense by the most in decades, including phasing out the most feared battlefield weapon ever devised, the A10 Warthog, without a strategy, do you?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:19 | 5159603 thamnosma
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I was sick of Obama before the 2008 campaign ended....a living nightmare

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 00:43 | 5161615 HK21E
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Try living in Illinois. We were sick of that cockstain even before the 2004 DNC shitshow apperance.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:20 | 5159614 blu
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In fairness I don't think there is a viable way to defeat ISIS. It's a silly thing to aspire to do. Where it becomes troublesome is when the powers that be refuse to just confess that ISIS is too hot for them to handle, and that this is because of 70 years of poor handling of all related things in the ME, and the West is in trouble as a result of being stupid and not promoting viable diplomatic solutions to all the problems (including wealth disparities) now boiling over in the ME.

They won't admit to their failure because they are cowardly pussies.

So now hell is at the gates and we have cowardly pussies manning (hahaha they got no balls) the ramparts.

And need I remind the gentle reader, this is exactly how Rome fell into ruins 1,600 years ago.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:23 | 5159622 virgilcaine
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But he speaks so eloquently., often using such terms as....ahh, uhh.. er. He is painful to listen to.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:31 | 5159658 Itchy and Scratchy
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You try coming up with a strategy using the full force & power of the Armed Forces to chase 20 guys in stolen cars through the desert!

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:32 | 5159660 sosoome
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Strategy evolves from clear objectives.

Since he can't share his true objectives with the peoples, his strategies will always seem disconnected.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:34 | 5159669 virgilcaine
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There is profit in chaos, Just say it Obama.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:35 | 5159681 Itchy and Scratchy
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I'm lookin' at a guy who is thinkin' to himself:  'Even tho I'm an intolerable ego-manic & painful narcassist why in the 'F' did I ever agree to take this shitty job?'

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:36 | 5159683 TheSkipper1967
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Der Führer hat sich noch nicht gelegt, einen konkreten Plan für den Militäreinsatz in Syrien.

Heil, mein Führer

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 18:47 | 5160619 cart00ner
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Ich spreche kein Deutsch... Asshole!
Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:51 | 5159746 JDFX
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I read Obama as saying, we're still working on it.


Likely means they'll be wanting to extract their maximum pound of flesh, so we needn't be too hasty. 


Smart, cconsidered delay.

Big badda boom!  Badda big boom! 



Fri, 08/29/2014 - 14:59 | 5159772 Ayn Rand
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Obama said there is no strategy.
How the fuck does one "clarify" something which doesn't exist?

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:35 | 5159802 roadhazard
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And when they do have a strategy they still will not tell you until it's already happening.


I vote for, "No strategy"

I vote for, "doing nothing stupid."

Get out of Iraq.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:20 | 5159852 venturen
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Shouldn't his speech have ended "...and I am going golfing"

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 15:43 | 5159950 Lordflin
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The world is such a distracting place.

In the midst of golf, vacations, golf vacations, parties, fundraisers, and the all important dismantling of America, the world, sadly enough, sometimes intrudes, forcing this already overtaxed man to once again drag himself in front of a teleprompter.

It is little wonder the presidency is referred to as the toughest job on the planet...

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 16:24 | 5160110 talisman
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Working on how
to develop a strategy
to develop a strategy
to develop a strategy

this all takes time

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 16:22 | 5160113 notadouche
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Obama put ISIS on "double secret probation".

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 16:29 | 5160132 Lea
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They don't have a strategy because the first idea was to use ISIL to oust Assad. For some reason (prolly Iranian and Syrian Russian-made tough weaponry), that one is off the table at the moment.

ISIL had to serve a double purpose: oust Maliki in Iraq (mission accomplished), and topple Assad (ain't happening). So they're stuck with their merc army. They can't simply tell them to go back home, can they?

So what? So, no strategy.

We'll see. Tomorrow, I'll go and fetch myself some popcorn to be ready for the next "narrative".

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 17:20 | 5160304 Optimusprime
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+1 Right.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 19:22 | 5160733 d edwards
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This update just in from Josh not-so-Earnest:


"I know that you believe you understood what you think he said,

but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what he meant."


That is all.

Fri, 08/29/2014 - 21:50 | 5161202 orangegeek
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Funny to see Barry's hair turn white.  Stress must be getting to Barry.


That's a shame.


Bush was a drunk, but Barry is a chain smoker.


Keep sucking 'em back Barry.  Your smoking is great for your health.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 03:34 | 5161806 damicol
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bath house spends more time with a cock either in his mouth or up his arse than a cigarette.

The only thing comes close is time spent on a golf course and that is just a prelude and foreplay for more cock sucking from this faggot

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