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French President Says "There Is Risk Of War" As Europe Plans Additional Russia Sanctions
For months Europe had thought that mere verbal (and hollow) threats, populist posturing and propaganda would be enough to force Russia's Putin to back off and withdraw from the endless Ukraine escalation, into a Kremlin cocoon with his tail between his legs. What they didn't anticipate was that Putin would in no way back down (as that would be seen as defeat and weakness by his numerous internal foes), nor would have have to: with Russia providing a third of European gas and with winter approaching, Russia had all the trumps cards from day one. Furthermore, as a result of escalating trade wars it is not Russia's economy that is hurting but Europe, which is on the verge of a historic triple-dip recession, only unlike 2010 and 2012, this time it is Europe's growth dynamo, Germany, itself which is leading the lemmings into the abyss.
Now, finally, Europe has realized that its "strategy" (if it ever had one, red: Obama's 'strategy' on dealing with ISIS) was flawed. It is with this mindset that European Union leaders met in Brussels earlier today and while, as usual, the the threat of new and improved sanctions to Russia was present, suddenly Europe's leaders seem far more "fearful of a new Cold War and self-inflicted harm to their own economies" and instead decided to give Moscow another chance to make peace according to Reuters.
Confirming Europe's realization just how serious events are, and how far down the rabbit hole Europe's bureaucrats have gone, French President Francois Hollande, while stressing that a failure by Russia to reverse a flow of weapons and troops into eastern Ukraine would force the bloc to impose new economic measures i.e., nothing new, it is what he said just after that indicated a dramatic change in rhetoric: "Are we going to let the situation worsen, until it leads to war?" Hollande said at a news conference. "Because that's the risk today. There is no time to waste."
Because when Europe, the cradle of both World War I and II talks war, it is a good idea to listen.
Of course, the problem of hypocrisy promptly emerges, because it is France whose mistral amphibious assault ship is being delivered to Russia over the objections of both Germany (whose own military export complex has quite a few pending RFPs to the Kremlin) and of course Washington. That, and the fact that it is Europe's actions that have led the situation to the bring of another world war. Actions such as the expansion of NATO to Russia's borders which the Kremlin, justifiably, sees as yet another offensive intrusion by the west into purely regional matters, because last time anyone checked, Ukraine was neither a member of NATO nor the European Union.
The paradoxical hypocrisy continued when none other than British PM, who has been teasing with pulling the UK out of Europe for months over the election of Jean-Claude "You have to lie pretty much all the time in Europe" Juncker, also spoke on behalf of a united Europe. From Reuters:
British Prime Minister David Cameron said: "We have to address the completely unacceptable situation of having Russian troops on Ukrainian soil. Countries in Europe shouldn't need to think long before realising just how unacceptable that is. We know that from our history.
"So consequences must follow if that situation continues."
Consequences such as pushing Germany into outright depression, which in turn would lead to a global economic contraction? Sure, go ahead, but keep in mind that once again Putin has done his homework. Unless, of course, the entire premise is to launch another round of global coordinated QEasing, and this time blame the Kremlin as the "scapegoat" for thrusting the world into at least one more year of unprecedented Reverse Robin Hood wealth redistribution by way of central banks.
Meanwhile, Europe's hawkish warmongers had free reign today to tell the world how they really feel:
The president of formerly Soviet Lithuania, an outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin and of EU hesitation to challenge him, called for urgent military supplies to Kiev and a tougher arms embargo on Russia. Dalia Grybauskaite said Moscow, by attacking Ukraine, was effectively "in a state of war against Europe".
But large Western countries are wary of damaging their own economies through sanctions. Those include Germany, Britain and France, as well as Italy, which is heavily dependent on Russian gas and expects to secure the post of EU foreign affairs chief. Poroshenko gave short shrift to Moscow's denials by denouncing the past week's incursion of thousands of troops with hundreds of armoured vehicles and said he expected the summit to order the European Commission to prepare a new set of sanctions.
But, like Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, he used their joint news conference to stress a will to find a political solution to a crisis that President Putin blames on Kiev's drive to turn the ex-Soviet state away from its former master Moscow and toward a Western alliance with the EU and NATO.
He said he was not looking for foreign military intervention and expected progress toward peace as early as Monday - because failure could push the conflict to a point of no return: "Let's not try to spark the new flame of war in Europe," he said.
Barroso also warned of the risk of a "point of no return" in stressing that EU leaders wanted to defuse the confrontation with their nuclear-armed neighbour.
"It makes no sense to have ... a new Cold War," Barroso said. Further conflict would hurt all of Europe, he said, adding that sanctions were meant to push Moscow to talk. His Commission already had prepared a number of options for further measures.
Europe may be shocked to learn that the Cold War never went away, but simply was on hiatus until the Russian bear and the Chinese dragon felt strong enough they can finally ascend to global superpower status, in the process sweeping away the insolvent west, and its reserve currency status.
All that said, no pun intended, there was nothing actually decided today in Brussels, nor was any action taken, as is generically the case in Europe. In fact, the only thing that did happen is that as was known in advance, moments ago Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk replaced Haiku-spewing, unelected Gollum lookalike Herman Van Rompuy, a well-known figurehead from the days when Europe was actively fighting for its survival.
Elected. The European Council has elected PM Donald Tusk as the next President of the European Council & Euro Summits #EUCO @premiertusk
— Herman Van Rompuy (@euHvR) August 30, 2014
With Tusk, a conservative easterner, replacing the Belgian Van Rompuy, Italian Foreign Minister Federica Mogherini from the centre left would take over as the bloc's foreign policy chief, replacing Briton Catherine Ashton.
In overall charge of the executive Commission, in succession to Barroso, will be conservative former Luxembourg premier Jean-Claude Juncker, appointed at a stormy summit two months ago.
Eastern leaders, alarmed by a resurgent Moscow, had resisted the appointment of Mogherini at that time. At 41 and in government only since February, they saw her as lacking the political experience and weight to stand up to the Kremlin and also handicapped by Italy's dependence on Russian energy.
In fact, while Europe's powerlessness to do anything to halt Putin's advance is well-known, the most interesting aspect of today's meeting that left Belgian caterers that much richer, was the horsetrading of hollow, bureaucratic figureheads at the top: something Europe also excels at.
Britain, France, Germany and other countries are competing to see their nominees secure important portfolios in Juncker's team, such as in economic affairs, trade and energy supply.
The horse-trading over jobs underlines the power of rival national governments over the supranational institutions of the EU. Proponents of a strong political leadership in Brussels that can inspire and rally an increasingly sceptical European public behind the common project may again be left disappointed.
Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi said on Friday he would propose a meeting to discuss tackling the "really worrying" economic situation across Europe, with growth and jobs elusive and fears of a new crisis for the euro currency.
The leaders agreed to schedule that summit for Oct. 7, according to the draft statement.
And so on.
To summarize: more worthless power moves, more hollow rhetoric and threats, more verbal escalation; nothing else.
In fact, the most notable comment all day today came from Hungarian Premier Viktor Orban who said that EU sanctions on Russia haven’t worked and it’s "self-delusion" to think they’ll help resolve the crisis in Ukraine.
Well, if there is anything Europe, and its allegedly unlimited but certainly very limited amount of political capital spent to preserve an unsustainable, artificial union, excels in it is "self-delusion."
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I appreciate your sentiment, but don't confuse the Front Men -- the Muppets in the Storefront Window -- with the real Strategists and string pullers of the Shadow Government, the Deep State: E.g., NWO Political Elite (Kissinger, Brzezinski, Bush Sr, Zionists) and Bankster Elite (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bankfine...).
Yep, especially those fuckers. I am now going to go and make many toasts to their quick demise. Might even do one of those old Cossack kick dance thingys after enough drinks. Have a good one.
So, in an effort to bludgeon and intimidate Putin into compliance, the European Commission appoints...another female foreign policy chief. Not that I mind watching socialist Europe self-destruct, but you'd think they would at least pretend to fight back.
GooseShtepping Moron,
What on sweet, dear earth has the appointment of a woman as foreign policy chief has to do with the EU self-destruction? Do you really think ...er... one dares not say "men", so let's settle for vague copies of males like Van Rompuy or Barroso, or even Nato's Rasmussen, would have done any better in the absence of women?
Please don't answer yes. Let me have at least a little hope in human intelligence.
What I meant, dear Lea, was no insult to your fair sex, but simply that this is no way to get Putin to take the EU seriously. Mogherini was a rammed-through political appointee with little experience and a reputation for being too pro-Russian. It seems that her gender was one of the reasons she was slotted for the job, against the protests of many in the EU Commission. Personally I could not be more pleased by this, but I have to wonder what the heck the EU was thinking from its own point of view.
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/up-front/posts/2014/08/italian-foreign-minister-mogherini-europe-wright
"No time to waste"
Hurry, hurry
Must have more sanctions,
more NATO build-up,
more weapons and "military advisors" to Kiev,
make more threats toward Russia
that should reduce the risk of military conflict
... not.
In past days of glory, the French navy would "punitively" bombard the coastal cities of third world countries resisting colonization. The recent example of Libya shows how much the past attitude has changed.
Perhaps Hollande dreams of reliving the 19th century Crimean War.
NEOconservatives, NEOLiberals,
and now a NEOsocialist
who supports TBTF banksters, a war hungry NATO, and the Obama-style politics of deception.
France's Marine LaPen is looking better and better by comparison.
I'm with simon black on this. WW3 will be about economics instead of bombs. Look at Detroit. That city has never been bombed, but it has been economically destroyed and demoralized. Russia and China will try to do that to us on a national level, just as we are trying to do that to Russia.
Look at Chicago - with Rahm Emmanuel, Israeli sayan and his confederates in charge, that is a great location for a false flag.
A nuke up rahms ass would be a good start
I think they call it an Obummer.
ya a Russian already said this earlier...sanctions will only hurt E.U
Russian will take a hit but is prepared. do the Europeans really wanna freeze to death? Maybe they are thinking if they can survive the winter they can have Putin by the balls come spring???
If Russia continues to invade does NATO declare war? Thats the real question!
Russia continues to invade?
Where have they invaded besides the high end London property market?
Are you a sock puppet? Have you stopped beating your wife?
spin it the way you want but it looks like europe has managed to round up a pair of real balls amongst all of them and are telling the usa zionisto neoconists to take a hike. the eurozone must be sanctioned! no one must be allowed to disobey the empire without paying the appropriate consequences.
Nothing like a war at the beginning of winter to heat things up in the absence of Russian gas.
The folds in the ass of Europe are tightening, in the summer they have 13, with only two will be cold so cold tight.
Perhaps a Polish apple inflame these fools.
Kill the Putin touts as one former CIA agent and you will have a much worse in his place.
Does a guy who will not feel sorry Europe much less USA.
The guy is not politically correct, the guy is native Russian Slavs does not tolerate meddling in affairs, and especially not as a strategic political Putin.
The guy does not play chess, he trains target shooting and is extremely accurate in their sport.
Kill Putin and you will see what a real war.
I heard it from a guy who lives in Russia, and met him in the city of Santos, São Paulo State, Brazil.
The guy is a sailor, engineer officer on a ship, talked to him in a whorehouse with a lot of vodka and rum in the head.
hehe.
You mean there are whorehouses in brazil?
Berspankme:
Yup!
There are brothels in Brazil!
Unfortunately most uses country music and only serves Cachaca or Vodka.
Beer not think this thing is pissing a lot and, as we are by the sea, can pollute the thing, you know. ...
All women wear Burka, you can not palpate before paying, they are all beautiful!
All look like a huge condom in the body, you do not get AIDS or hepatitis syphilis much less any letter (remember, there is no water here).
Time and again, you may pay a prostitute, but when it get dark in the Burka you are passive, accidents happen Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk route.
Berspankme, Brazil you need to know if your plane arrives earlier in the day in Rio de Janeiro, believe me, you will see the Christ Redeemer doing exercise with arms. He needs to do this because stay all with open arms fia is very tiring.
hehe.
(In VP assasinated scenario) Does Igor Strelkov fit the job description? Below is a very interesting article from The American Conservative about Strelkov vs Putin:
Putin’s Right Flank
The recently relieved Igor Strelkov represents an ultra-conservative challenge to Russia's president.
the ami conservative. lol
strelkov is an antique dealer by trade.
look it up. lol
"strelkov is an antique dealer by trade. look it up."
I did look it up. Below is a piece of info I found:
By his admission, he served in the Russian FSB until March 2013,[7] and according to Ukrainian and EU authorities, he is a retired Russian military intelligence GRU colonel who has previously participated in the 2014 Crimea crisis.[6][8][9]
Jorgen:
Igor Strelkov is Russian, Russian-born Ukrainian citizen by choice.
Sublime strategist, would not look good for the Armed Forces Novorrúsia have a Russian citizen in front of things that are happening.
Igor was not deleted much less killed or wounded, he was placed further down the hierarchy convientemente geopolitically to show that the boss in the Donbas and South Ukrainians are born - indeed, the chosen faces are very good in the media and in the shot, I think the CIA and NSA inflacionarão market Polonius.
That is, the thing is simple.
hehe.
WTF is up with folks wanting to engage in war with Russia during the winter? Does no one actually read and comprehend history?
Please, dear God, lets this make the EU and Nato implode.
...and the US implode.
Like God is even needed... This is going to be a "natural" outcome (remember: BIG SYSTEMS FAIL!).
I keep an eye on the NYT and CNN as voices of the deep state. The language deployed in the Times' articles this week, as well as the comment section {irrespective of how many are genuine} is alarming.
I see the language, sort of rhetorical psy ops, as having become to ratched up that basic journalistic standards have been not only sacrificed, but summarily executed - must. get. war. going. The facts need not be sourced.
An article/video on CNN regards an article in an Italian paper, based on "anonymous Israeli sources" that ISIS has threatened the Pope. It seems to me the Evangelical, Judaized Christians already hate Islam and Muslims, and certainly the matter is aided by the many incidents of ostensibly Islamic terror, but, even though the Evangelicals already hate Catholics almost as much as Muslims, they would no doubt cite an attack on the Catholic leader as another reason to invade, bomb and kill more of Israel's neighbors, and surely, a large amount of generally anti-war Catholics might be swept up in the war fever.
I wonder what Saint Malachy would think of it all ;0]
ISIS surely has Saudi funding, perhaps Qatari and Kuwait as well. But CIA and Mossad support is highly likely. As noted in the article below, a false flag grows more and more likely in order to justify a re-invasion of Iraq, and a backdoor into Syria. A gas pipeline to Europe from Israel's Leviathan find [to include what is legally Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria's] will surely follow.
The history of the Iraq War - the ability of Zionist Jews, some of whom were widely suspected, even investigated for spying, to set up an evidence factory in the Pentagon, as well as Nuland-Kagan's meddling, and the bellicose rhetoric of Samantha Power Sunstein at the UN assures me that the "ZOG" was and is largely in charge, if not totally, of the Deep State. The CIA actually opposed the findings of the Office of Special Plans in the past - it is possible, at least, that the agency is not fully compromised, but who knows. It is enough that a shadow government with billions to spend and outside the reach of the law desires more war - for gas and gas pipelines, and for the petrodollar, but for the Oded Yinon / PNAC line of plans most of all.
Even if you tend to automatically reject the ideas of a 'zionist conspiracy' - you should realize that for the Kagans and Perles and Feiths and Wurmsers and Bremers and Zelikows and Boltons and on and on and on - Israeli aspirations are absolutely central. Hence Syria and Iran and Russia are not about America's needs or hegemony, but Israel's - and the ultimate goal is to use American blood and treasure to transform Israel into a power which no longer requires American support to continue its planned expansion.
The Zionist plan for the Middle East is in play, a parasite within the Grand Chessboard/Great Game 2. We ignore it at our considerable peril.
It simple really: they are building islamic crescent throughout Midle East and North/Central Africa as a contolled opposition. They need an enemy badly since 300 Al Qaeda fighters can hardly "do the trick." They are then used as a bogeyman, and of course as an excuse for introduction series of authoritarian measaures thus eroding people's freedoms. Solustions to such problems then are always presented as global ones -- i.e. giving more power and transfer more weath to gloablist institutions (UN, IMF, WTO, WHO, et al). They are in war with Western middle class and have been for quite some time.
// '; filtry.appendChild(div); }); })();]]>I suppose that the idea of creating a "controlled opposition" angle is plausible; but, it's the actual achievement of such that I wonder about... These kinds of things tend to get a bit difficult to manage.
BTW - "Hobgoblin" is, in my opinion, still the greatest descriptor.
Apsolutely. Nothing is written in stone. Those running Anglo-American empire, clique or cartel from City of London, Anglo-zionist if you will, are already beaten twice from 2 tribes they have been trying to conquer for centuries - Pashtuni and Punjabi, one of the oldest tribes on Earth -- first through British empire, and now via Anglo-American one. Those tribes really shame us all, don't they? We've been submitting to those bastards from City, whereas those deemed primitive are not conquerable as we have learned. It does tell us something about us in the end I think. They rule us because we are permitting them.
// '; filtry.appendChild(div); }); })(); // ]]>// '; filtry.appendChild(div); }); })();]]>"I keep an eye on the NYT and CNN as voices of the deep state. "
Careful! I've heard from reliable sources that this can be detrimental to one's health!
I wish to keep my blood pressure down, in which case I put out considerable effort to block out the MSM...
BTW - Nice post.
So... Not Vegas? Now it's the Vatican? Any multi-billion dollar building nearby that were recently purchased and highly insured - a la WTC?
Prefer the former location (Vegas) to get whacked, but I can see how it might galvanize the EU portion of NATO into war-fever, if they could pin it on a group of Russians. Although they seem to miss the MOTIVE part of the CSI trinity: Motive and Means and Opportunity.
Remember the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, the Liberty, Desert Storm 1 & 2, Kosovo, 9/11.
French President forgot that the guillotine was created by their ancestors.
French President forgot in his hands an insane number of unemployed.
French President forgot that calls are heard nowadays and that can cost brioches his neck.
French President forgot the story, do not know that prior to invade Rome, the barbarians (Russian and German) fucked everything in the present-day France.
French President forgot the saying goes in my mouth shut no insect.
hehe.
Shooting war is where PMs are taken out. Instantly sub $1000 gold as the $ is made to look invincible. And remember... Buy War Bonds!
I agree that there is likely to be a period in which this is the case, but in the long-run it becomes a blip on the radar...
There would be no gold available to buy sub-$1000.
EU alignment to status quo : Donald Tusk replaces Van Rompuy....
From nobody of Bilderberger flame we go to somebody of Polska Zbi colour fame.
EU now the hot bed of Euro decadence as the Universal Empire requires its due.
We need a war with the East to make this cake acquire a taste of Teutonic Order !
Lake Peipus and Alexander Nevsky, here we come !
Ukraine 2014 and Russian birth in 1242... some analogy.
The amazing thing is History Repeats.
As, Alexander Nevsky, all the while he fought the Teutonic Order to create a Russian state, was vassal to Mongol Horde, as was his father, Yaroslav II of Vladimir, in the wake of the invasion of Genghis's army.
Putin now has that connection to Xanadu via the Gazprom China deal.
All we need is Marco Polo and we will have recreated the New Silk route.
Meanwhile, in those days, the West lost its hold on Holy land through Crusader disasters.
Do we see a pattern there?
Read my book ! (which I haven't published in its entirety).
"Donald Tusk replaces Van Rompuy"
Pole dancer replaces garden gnome. Welcome to Brussels.
The Pole Dancer can take about an hour on the Tower of Power, as long as he gets his Gold(en) shower.
Inspired from a Zappa song (Bobby Brown).
falak pema:
Son of a bitch!
Your stuff should be first!
Say there, comes from Venezuela or Afghanistan?
Paraguayan marijuana is no longer use, you know.
Krokodil or think, or think Crak
Tell us there for what you sell or use, we promise that things will be between us, nothing to call the Feds.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
The Hungarian Premier is the only smart guy among the bunch of idiots.
They are really going to do this, huh? Like looking into the barrel of a revolver and wondering..... Is there a bullet in the chamber? If there is it will change my life.... And then you pull the......
The real war will begin when the people of every nation decide to take away the war-making powers of their leaders. Those who benefit the most from an unjust system will do anything to perpetuate that system.
Idiot forgets that the French president has lap 73 nuclear plants and that the strength of the winds will lead to radiation and not to Russia, but to Israel and North Africa.
Better call the guy an asshole, I got tired of calling an idiot insane French president.
Does he think of Carla Bruni in the room next to the Champs Elisses?
No, there is no way to describe the shit that France is doing to herself. Maybe if you compare the shit that Poland is doing.
The Russians know very well the history of the independence of the USA.
USA closed their borders and PROPIA developed technology, no one died of hunger so.
Russians have done so by virtue of two wars, is people who know things and know where manufacturing plant.
Fuck the EU, close the gas taps is ours, fuck Monsanto, McDonald's, etc. Banksters .
Playtime is over, you - USA and EU - took the ball home, we do not have the ball because we are poor but my mother knows planting and food, my father works - and is not in the Bank.
hehe.
Cameron the idiot isn't bothered by UK troops on Serbian soil, or on Iraq soil, or Afghan soil, or Libyan soil, or millions of Jihadists on UK soil, no, the moron is worried by Russians (who have lived in "Ukraine" for the past 1,000 years) on "Ukraine" soil. He is dangerous fool who should be locked up in an insane assylum, not with nuclear weapons under his control.
Tracerfan:
You have a short memory.
Who came before Cameron?
Five million pounds by Prime Minister Washington considers fair.
Swallow this, make a blowjob as the Poles.
hehe.
what's with the village idiot hehe in every post?
According to international law the victor has to pay the war debts of the losers.
Hollande declares war on Russia, sends a few college students to Kiev. They surrender, the war is over, Russia is declared victorious & assumes France's debt. Win-Win.
Then Kerry surrenders Obama to China.
"According to international law the victor has to pay the war debts of the losers."
I doubt it. Did USA, U.K., France and (then) USSR pay Germany's debts as a result of WW1 or WW2?
Nope. In fact it was only a few years ago the victors finished paying back uncle sam for the tanks, planes and ships and everything else.
Uai!
Interesting thing.
I ask you:
Jews were at war in 1945? They were an army?
Lost six million unhappy, 23 million Russians.
Because Germany pays pension to Jews today?
Because America pay a lot of money for the State of Israel?
Money of the American taxpayer is going to Israel with what justification?
Russia pays something for Israel?
Do not!
Indecent Jews exports.
Ow, when will the plug will fall on the head of Americans?
When will they take action regarding these sons of bitches banksters?
Only God knows .....
hehe.
the mofo eurocrats (fascist/Nazis) are the ones who want the countries of the EU to be destroyed. Germany better do its thing and do it quick before these maniacs get their war.
Newsflash: Germany has no more humans left with functioning dangly bits between their legs (i.e. men). They were bred out of the German gene pool post WW2 by the Zionist banksters.
Unfortunately Heir Merkel is the closest thing that Germany has to a man with a functioning pecker and nut sack. Why the hell do you think all of those hot German babes (e.g. Heidi Klum) are doing the sausage boogie with Arab and Sub-Saharan dudes?
The old SNL skit "Sprockets" with the dancing German turdburgler dudes yammering about petting each others monkeys, nailed what became of manhood in post WW2 Germany accurately:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZR9SA5pOg
GOLLUM !!!
Henry to the rescue!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/30/Kissinger-Calls-for-New-Wo...
WHAT A FUCKING MORON
"it is France whose mistral amphibious assault ship is being delivered to Russia over the objections of both Germany (...) and of course Washington."
Please... Germany has Gazprom Germany, which make nice lovely bucketfuls of dough with Russia. And Exxon Mobil is currently drilling the arctic for oil with the Russians.
Talk about cheeky.
Where East meets West is really dangerous territory .
If the men don't get you , the women will .
See what happened to Attila the Hun .
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/01/who-was-ildico.html
davie cameron is really in a panic.
he is losing his *ss at home.
the country is sliding deeper into chaos.
the kids are being decimated by pedophilia politicians, entertainers and foreigners.
muslim schools are turning out more and more jihadists.
poverty levels are rising.
he is scared shitless of ISIS hitting his shores
scotland may be leaving.
of course this idiot wants war.
hollande is in the same boat
france is sinking.
let's talk about war as if you know what you are talking about. f*ckin' miscreants. hang 'em all.
Dont forget the state approved paedophilia in airport patdowns of minors.
Are we going to let the situation worsen, until it leads to war?" Hollande said at a news conference. "Because that's the risk today. There is no time to waste."
He did not notice, that there is already a war.
The sanctions will have harder impact on EU, then on Russia.
And it is good so. Let us sanction the EU!
INTERPRETATION: Putin is starting to draw his lines in the sand. And NATO has not been able to persuade its member countries to show any interest in WWIII since the battleground would be their backyards.
So, the easiest thing to do is just to say we’re going to get tougher and tougher and put on more and more sanctions, and really make Putin pay with sanctions…if he doesn’t come our way and say ‘you can have it.'
And the reason is that Ukriaine is not a member of NATO and as former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said, “The US does not have any cards to play” because if we attack Russia, how could America explain to her people why we are going into war with Russia when our vital interests are not at stake?
And so it’s time to rally the world through subterfuge to support the US in its exploitative activities and, if necessary, the ultimate solution -- invasion -- to take out any leader standing in the way of its empire oil policies…to remove any leader such as Saddam Hussein who fails to comply with US demands…to rally the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development, and the IMF to ensnare countries through loans and a web of unsustainable debt, making them easy targets for colonization through bankruptcy.
Warns John Perkins in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, “In their drive to advance the global empire, corporations, banks and governments (collectively the corporatocracy) use their financial and political muscle…to a point where our global culture is a monstrous machine that requires exponentially increasing amounts of fuel and maintenance, so much so that in the end it will have consumed everything insight and will be left with no choice but to devour itself….
“One of corporatocracy’s most important functions is to perpetuate and continually expand and strengthen the system… History tells us that unless we modify this story, it is guaranteed to end tragically…no country or combination of countries can thrive in the long term by exploiting others.”
"And the reason is that Ukriaine is not a member of NATO and as former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said, “The US does not have any cards to play” because if we attack Russia, how could America explain to her people why we are going into war with Russia when our vital interests are not at stake?"
It's possible that the US is trying to get another NATO country to step into the war footing trap so that it can declare that the US in the game. Seems that this is how it's gone down before...
JR:
Frankly I do not understand how you can write so much and say nothing, whit da silva.
You apparently proves the fall of IQ that both Snyder talks this week.
I will recommend you a test, make two abdominal morning and try to remember the multiplication tables 11-15, from zero to 15 knowing that an inch is 2.6 mm and needs grease to lubricate things.
Mane is always loser (or Troll).
Knows what it is.
hehe.
@Karaio
I find JR's comments are among the most interesting and informative and I always make a point of reading them. I guess if you prefer not to be informed then just skip over them. There's no need to make personal attacks.
...just my opinion.
By the way: 1 inch is not equal to 2.6 mm. 25.4 mm is more like it.
smacker
Okay, I admit I was wrong, extrapolated.
I apologize humbly.
I know that does not justify telling who was celebrating good news and was up there in Baghdad so drunk Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Personal attacks do not fit here I know, I admit I was wrong, I was extremely rude.
It's part of life. One day you jump the hole, another day you fall on it.
Regarding inch, if you work with wood or iron, 2.6mm is an approach to take into account - either in the cut - the thickness of the saw.
Trust me, if you use the right measure the piece gets smaller, you should cut "right" for the part to get to the exact measurement.
: - /
JR:
Do you really think everyone here has dial up the network?
Do you think some guys like us, with access up to 32 Mega with fiber optics - in my case are 200 and few mega - need to read these bricks of text that you put?
Most here do not need it, but need the "Sherr," that hot blonde which by the way is his girlfriend in college was that she endorsed his comments, yes this matters (a lot) kkkkkkkkkkkk - hopefully not your friend Room Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Hopefully French President Hollande and British PM Cameron realise that their active support and funding of the fascist Poroshenko govt in Ukraine means they are fighting against their own citizens too.
European volunteers have gone to Ukraine from France, Britain and other EU countries to fight on behalf of the rebels against fascism.
RT.com has this article about it. There's been no mention on MSM: http://rt.com/news/183864-ukraine-european-volunteers-fighting/
Too bad that this time round it is European governments who are supporting fascism. If Franco, Hitler and Mussolini were alive, they'd be throwing a party.
EU sanctions haven't affected Russian caviar imports yet, have they? What would a EU meeting in Brussels be without Russian caviar?
Federica Mogherini is CUTE and she's not adverse to talks with Putin.
How could the D.C./NATO/Brusells mafia let her have the job!?
A fat Lituanian cow or a stupid inbred Pole SHOULD have been put in position!
McCain's Rebel Heroes?
Syrian rebels attack peacekeepers in Golan Heightshttp://news.msn.com/world/syrian-rebels-attack-peacekeepers-in-golan-hei...
The next President of the European Commission is a Russian-hating Pole? No need for comment....
I hear Brussels is going into the Pole Dancing business...
They are pretty good at pole smoking...
Various Wikipedia extracts on Donald Tusk:
Tusk got his English first name because his paternal grandmother Juliana travelled abroad in her youth and became enamoured with an English Lord called Donald. She gave this name to her son, who passed it on to her grandson.[4]
Tusk belongs to the Kashubian minority in Poland. In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in December 2008, Tusk compared his own family history to the Jewish experience, describing the Kashubian minority as a people who, "like the Jews, are people who were born and live in border areas and were suspected by the Nazis and by the Communists of being disloyal".[5]
Tusk graduated from Nicolaus Copernicus High School No. 1 in Gda?sk in 1976. He then enrolled as a student of history at the University of Gda?sk, from which he graduated in 1980 under professor Roman Wapi?ski with an M.A. thesis on Józef Pi?sudski.
Józef Pi?sudski: (Wikipedia excerpts)
He believed in a multicultural Poland with recognition of numerous ethnic and religious nationalities…Early in his political career, Pi?sudski became a leader of the Polish Socialist Party…In 1923, with the government dominated by his opponents, particularly the National Democrats, he withdrew from active politics. Three years later, he returned to power with the May 1926 coup d'état, and became the strong man (in practice a dictator) of Poland. From then until his death in 1935, he concerned himself primarily with military and foreign affairs... Today, although his rule remains controversial, Pi?sudski's memory is held in high esteem in Poland.
…The family resented the Russian government's Russification policies. Young Józef profoundly disliked having to attend Russian Orthodox Church service[20] and left school with an aversion not only for the Russian Tsar and the Russian Empire, but for the culture, which he knew well.[12]
In 1885 Pi?sudski started medical studies at Kharkov University, where he became involved with Narodnaya Volya, part of the Russian Narodniki revolutionary movement.[21] In 1886 he was suspended for participating in student demonstrations.[13] He was rejected by the University of Dorpat (Tartu, Estonia), whose authorities had been informed of his political affiliation.[13] On 22 March 1887 he was arrested by Tsarist authorities on a charge of plotting with Vilnius socialists to assassinate Tsar Alexander III. In fact, Pi?sudski's main connection to the plot was his elder brother Bronis?aw's involvement in it.[22] Bronis?aw Pi?sudski was sentenced to fifteen years' hard labor (katorga) in eastern Siberia.[22]
…By ignoring the strong pressures from the Entente Cordiale to join the attack on Vladimir Lenin's struggling Soviet government, Pi?sudski probably saved the Bolshevik government in the summer and fall of 1919.[8
…Pi?sudski's regime began a period of national stabilization and of improvement in the situation of ethnic minorities, which formed about a third of the Second Republic's population.[50][125][126][127] Pi?sudski replaced the National Democrats' "ethnic-assimilation" with a "state-assimilation" policy: citizens were judged not by their ethnicity but by their loyalty to the state.[128][129] Widely recognized for his opposition to the National Democrats antisemitic policies,[130][131][132][133][134][135] he extended his policy of "state-assimilation" to Polish Jews.[128][129][136][137] The years 1926–35, and Pi?sudski himself, were favorably viewed by many Polish Jews whose situation improved especially under Pi?sudski-appointed Prime Minister Kazimierz Bartel.[138][139] Many Jews saw Pi?sudski as their only hope for restraining antisemitic currents in Poland and for maintaining public order; he was seen as a guarantor of stability and a friend of the Jewish people, who voted for him and actively participated in his political bloc.[140] Pi?sudski's death in 1935 brought a deterioration in the quality of life of Poland's Jews.[135]
…After Adolf Hitler came to power in January 1933, Pi?sudski is rumored to have proposed to France a preventive war against Germany. It has been argued that Pi?sudski may have been sounding out France regarding possible joint military action against Germany.[157] Lack of French interest may have been a reason why Poland signed the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact of January 1934.[148][158][159][160] Little evidence has, however, been found in French or Polish diplomatic archives that such a proposal for preventive war was ever actually advanced.[161]
Hitler repeatedly suggested a German-Polish alliance against the Soviet Union, but Pi?sudski declined, instead seeking precious time to prepare for potential war with Germany or with the Soviet Union.[160][162] Just before his death, Pi?sudski told Józef Beck that it must be Poland's policy to maintain neutral relations with Germany and keep up the Polish alliance with France, and to improve relations with the United Kingdom
…By 1935, unbeknownst to the public, Pi?sudski had for several years been in declining health. On 12 May 1935, he died of liver cancer at Warsaw's Belweder Palace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski
JR:
Do you really think everyone here has dial up the network?
Do you think some guys like us, with access up to 32 Mega with fiber optics - in my case are 200 and few mega - need to read these bricks of text that you put?
Most here do not need it, but need the "Sherr," that hot blonde which by the way is his girlfriend in college was that she endorsed his comments, yes this matters (a lot) kkkkkkkkkkkk - hopefully not your friend Room Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Weren't you playing goal keeper in the Brazil team at the last world cup?
We can't ignore the fact that this whole crisis was created by the EU and US State Dept. The Euro Maiden protests were a coup that removed Viktor Yanukovych. These protests were orquestrated and supported by the EU and the US State Department - a point made by the Russian's releasing Victoria Nuland's phone call on YouTube. Go back and look at the pictures of the "protesters" who include numerous military aged males in helmets.
This whole affair was type of "new imperialism" used this time by the EU and the US State Dept to thwart Ukraine's entry into the Custom's Union. Probably an attempt to thwart the growing power block of central Asia under the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Russia is merely reacting to a coup that removed a democratically elected president who polity had decided by popular vote to enter the Custom's Union and accept Russian aide...unacceptable to the EU and apparently the US.
If there is a conflict, blame the EU. No one is really addressing the facts - Ya, Russia is in the Ukraine because they see it as in their national interest to not allow the Ukraine to become part of the EU or NATO. The debate about joining NATO is NOT new and based on what has just happened. Why do the Russian fear the EU and the West? Look the money that is being pumped into the opposition from abroad. Wouldn't you resent this?
About the latest batch of claims Russian military invaded this week with 1,000 servicemen and armored vehicles, read this important article and spread it around because neocons are trying to cause WW-III and this might be another one of their tricks.
"Russian ‘Soldiers Mothers Committees’ — A US Covert Op?"
http://thenewsdoctors.com/russian-soldiers-mothers-committees-a-us-covert-op/
no panic, flamby will never ever do politics after his free run...
if this blob does another run i just burn my nationality & get the fuck out of that funcking country.
It's all fun and games until a Russian 10 megaton warhead lands on a city or twenty.
Then all these fuckers will scream "You see, the Russkis did it!", as they drag another generation of young men into the abyss.
I'm starting to think that they actually believe their own horseshit, and actually want a war to generate the billion or so deaths that it will take so that "economic growth" will start again.
And they called Hitler a psychopath.....guess they knew one when they saw one.
If that happens life on this planet will be reset.
Putin: Please, fuck off!
ok but u fuck off 1st
Bicho, probably his Jewish father lost his mouth in Russia and you are living in the USA or Paris with a lot of money in the bank account.
You are already "11" negatives and will not increase anything.
Tell you what segunte:
Better learn how to hold a hammer or a shovel or a hoe, learn to make something decent.
This life will not last very rich boy.
Way is a threat, is finding how things work with people like you when a war erupts.
When the shit grab, it's just you and you forget Dad or Mom.
hehe.
Geee, and I thought they might be discussing how to blame Russians for MH17. Again.
Damn, I am so sorry. We were supposed to forget about MH17.
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MH17 ?????????? What's that ?
That show was cancelled. The new series, which was also cancelled shortly after was 'Ferguson CSI'. Replaced with ISISCSI or something like that. Same time slot - 24 hrs/day.
Media control is no joke - it is painfully obvious that the MSM is on a short leash held by government minders.
The bullshit will continue until there is a free media, and the moment alternative media gets too big - TYT, VICE - it is gobbled up by the usual suspect, assimilated into the Borg Collective.
Yeah funny how that disappeared from the headlines
70% of Russian exports goes to the EU. So turning off the gas won't happen this coming winter.
Our 'world leaders' will keep giving us massages without happy ending.
wrong... that 70% will be taken by china in a heartbeat
Nato to send 10,000 troops to Eastern Ukraine.
following is a comment from Press TV on that news:
"there are young men and from what I have seen, very intelligent young men from all over Europe, who have teamed up with pro Russian fighters, because they know who the enemies of Europe really are, and they are prepared to fight because of it. If nato start trouble every one in Europe will fight nato. Why because the vast majority know who the real enemy of the Europeans are, and its not Russia."
The most bizar documantairy i've ever seen about the The Frenchies:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.es/2014/08/jacob-cohen-documenterview-...
There is NO risk of war. That is for sane people. The risk of war comes straight from Washington DC and NOWHERE ELSE. They are just pissing for a chance to start a European war, in which Europe is devestated and the USA homeland is untouched. You see, European wars are good for America, always have been! You can see that.
Think about battle field Europe in which the USA forces the situation to war and all sides in Europe are hammered and degraded. While here, we pour fuel on the fire of conflict and sit back and watch it on CNN.
You can see what the USA is aiming at, a repeat of World War II, in which America comes out supreme power and again has the intact nation.
So sure, the risk of war is real, and Washington is the driver of it. Europeans be warned, Washington knows how to get your shit head leaders to push the Ukraine crisis into full scale war.
The only risk of war is between Ukraine and Russia, but even then its only a series of losing battles, at best.
Foreign volunteers joining E.Ukraine Donbas self defense forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQFztkaOOII
The FUCKERS in charge of government are following the line dictated by...[whoever is behind this].
Portugal is sending 6 F16 to Lithuania and 70 soldiers to assist with NATO missions.
THIS from a country that is closing hospitals, small rural schools (austerity measure) and this week also the Toy musem in Sintra which is one of the oldest in town. No money for a small museum, but money for military excursions for NATO.
FUCK THE FUCKERS!
One hour of flight with a F16 costs around 25.000 €! Every hour of flight requires 10 hours of hangar time.
I am not going to pay ONE SINGLE DIME of taxes. I swear, I will boycott this shit with everything I have.
They are all cunts that will repent when the masses (eventually) revolt
It's official; European Leaders just shot-off the other foot! Dumb Asses!!!
i'm sure the likely big fart (as was the case in ww1 & 2 ) performance of france really has vlad shakin' in his loafers.
Stupid
The French are US poodles, like Cameron.
These former comunist block states make me puke. Most of them being pro western lackeys and right out dissmising anything resembling russia. And I know what Im talking about as I myself live in one of them. There are forces in this states that would love nothing more then to rewrite history regarding the second world war... EU is a joke and I'm sure that a referendum about an exit from EU today would be a huge blow for Brussel.
Here's hoping that this EU joke implodes soon.
VOTE UKIP
GENERAL GEORGE VAN HORN MOSELY, in the New York Tribune, March 29, 1939
Thursday, May 1, 1941
This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
The euros and the U.S. are NOT going to war with Russia over Ukraine. Neither will they do so over Moldova or any of the other non-NATO states with large Russian populations.
Neither will they go to war with Russia over the Baltic states if Russia decides to employ its new-fangled stealth invasion strategy to re-absorb them. They simply won't risk a tactical nuclear war with Russia over those states. And if it does come to that (Russian re-absorption of the Baltics) then NATO will lose what little credibility it has left. This is the prize Putin is aiming for - a general collapse of NATO without any conventional invasion, and with only a stealth invasion at NATO's extreme edges - the Baltics.
Oh, they will howl and scream and stomp their feet and enact "measures" against Russia - but no hot war. They aren't up to it, militarily, economically, or any other way - they have not the nerve, the intestinal fortitude, to bring themselves to that brink.
Putin knows this all too well. He will act, in stealth, as he is in Ukraine, and they cannot stop him. China will do similarly in SE Asia, and they cannot stop China either. Both Russia-China will be careful not to over-reach. But they will advance, significantly.
And they know the time to do so is now, and in the period of the next two years, while Mr. Poosie is still in the White House.
You can take this to the bank.
The US made its bed in ukraine, now it can lie in it. But no, like it does to all that it uses, it will abandon ukraine and leave it to its own devices to fight russia (a fight it cannot win).
Lesson : when the US comes to "help", politely decline.
France (and the rest of the Western world) need war. Good way to get rid of all those unemployed.
I would not worry about the French I believe they have already sent their surrender declaration to Russia.
@Aussiekiwi
These Jay Leno's style jokes are a bit tired !
You forgot to call them "Cheeseeating surrender monkeys" btw.
In fact the explosion of this ugly disdain and pitiful jokes come from the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003.
Since France refused to go to Iraq, American warmongers and neo-cons made French army look like cowards – as a punishment.
But History has proved the French were right.
Nevertheless the hate of the american warmongers remains still there, well alive.
They have not forgiven the offence, and their stale hate still show through so-called innocent (?) jokes about the “surrender monkeys”.
As for the rest, the French can be proud of their Military History which remains despite these stupid jokes by far the best military record in Europe.
... And for you just one advice: Read History books !
Britain, France, Germany and others are all suffering from sore tonsils but not because they are screaming.
This is what happens when the puppeteer's hand is so far up your ass.
They are all playing a game of chicken and the USA is acting like good old Colonel Sanders as it sacrifices Europe.
Those dumb Europeans are clueless.
George Galloway attacked in London, man jumps on him punches him over and over in the face. Screaming that he is Hitler and something about the holocaust. Galloway getting numerous death threats as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738668/Facebook-threats-against...
his facebook
https://www.facebook.com/neil.masterson.5
Sanctions were never going to work, from Putin's perspective Russians in the East of the Ukraine are being killed and starved in their cities, memories of Leningrad are still fresh in Russians minds, obviously that is an unacceptable situation and any sanctions to try and convince Putin to ignore the situation are simply seen as a petty attempt to control Russia.
Russia will never allow Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukrainian cities to be slaughtered by a CIA imposed neo-Nazi government in Kiev that had already immediately after being 'elected' stated its intention to deal with the Russians in the East of the Ukraine. Russian's in the East wish to govern themselves and from that perspective it can be seen as a battle for freedom and democracy by Russia against the oppressive forces of the US and Europe.
It is important for Europe to understand how Russia views the situation or the situation will continue to escalate, the damage done already with sanctions will have repercussions decades from now as Russia distrusts becoming involved with the US and Europe on trade and commerce due to the Wests demonstrated capacity to use those areas to punish Russia and attempt to bend Russia to its will.
Putin is a master of Maskirovka.
See the potato lessons he is teaching the head-in-the-sand politicians .
https://www.academia.edu/8137083/Potato_zaps_RLS
At this point Putin holds all the cards, this will become more obvious as winter nears and events unfold. It seems both Russia and many of the separatist in Eastern Ukraine would support federalization. Surely, no reason exist for Kiev to be opposed other than a loss of power. A more federalized government is also the most plausible way of keeping Ukraine intact.
Support for sanctions is mixed in Europe as some countries fear Russia and have an ax to grind with Putin while others wish to move forward. Saber rattling has only lead to death and destruction. As I see it little good will come from further bloodshed and it is time for the West to stop sending money to Kiev so they can ramp up the violence and continue the civil war. More on the progress being made in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/eu-moving-towards-deal-on-ukraine...
An impressive video of the army of Donetsk.
It was created just 2 months ago, and now can easily go to conquer Kiev.
The Ukrainian army lost 100 tanks during the last week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqSEn2_fEOE
Picked this info up on www.abledanger.net showing graphic photos of bodies at MH17 crash site 20mins after crash. Bodies NOT FRESH and filled with chemicals.
A Granny from Novosvetlovka saved a wounded tanker of the Lugansk Peoples Republic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zceK5JJwSlo
At 5:00 Granny tells opinion of Poroshenko
"Bloody Petro." "Bloody Peter."
Austria expressed doubts and is skeptical.
http://www.kleinezeitung.at/nachrichten/politik/eu/3726918/sanktionen-ge...
B. Sobotka/Cz is against, Slovakia is criticizing the sanctions and will vote no, it it should have impact on Slovak interests.
Orban in H is skeptical about sanctions...
So I am now quite eager to see them all at one table next week, how the jewish puppeteers will pull the strings.
Putin now talks of statehood for Eastern Ukraine for the first time.
The specter of Ukraine as a federal state is now out in the open.
Poroshenko and EU what is your reponse?
Jew in Jew Washington Post: War in Europe is not a bad idea
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/anne-applebaum-war-in-europe-is-not-a-hysterical-idea/2014/08/29/815f29d4-2f93-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html
These people want nuclear war, insane bastards!
Watershed press conference by top Novorussian officials (MUST SEE!)
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/08/watershed-press-conference-by-top.html
French President Says "There Is Risk Of War" As Europe Plans Additional Russia Sanctions
Or : French President Says "There Is Risk Of War, Youpi ! Let's feed it ! "
Let's see everybody is aware that ISIS is an international CIA terror group to control national populations on behalf of the NWO banksters. Putin is attempting to provide stability, justice and protection from a world at war with the globalists. The easy money is gone and FRAUD has reached a negative feedback loop. Western pedophiliac oligarchs/banksters are willing to destroy themselves and everyone else if they can't have the way of their infantile wills.
Peace on earth and angels sing the ice age is a coming in.