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This Is How ISIS Is Building An Airforce

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The Islamic State is nothing if not ambitious. Despite no record of current 'airplane' assets in their annual reports, ISIS has begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft. According to CNN Arabic, the pilots (and their planes and helicopters) were abducted when the terrorist group gained control of Tabqa military base. It appears that if beheadings, executions, and whippings are not enough to strike fear into the hearts of the locals, then (just as America is tryiung to do), an air assault will greatly demoralize. We can only imagine how this changes Obama's strategy (and just where are all the rest of Syria and Iraq's airplanes stored?)

 

 

Via Al Arabiya,

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria said in a recent tweet it is forcing detained Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft, CNN Arabic reported on Saturday.

 

In an account reportedly associated with the militant group, ISIS said in a tweet the pilots were abducted when the group gained control over the Tabqa military airbase in Raqqa Province.

 

ISIS seized the airbase earlier this month. The major airfield houses warplanes, helicopters, tanks and other artillery and ammunition, which were also confiscated by ISIS, according to several media reports.

 

ISIS did not provide any information about the nature of the training, according to CNN Arabic.

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As NYTimes reported,

The fall of the Tabqa air base followed the group’s seizing of two other Syrian military bases and gave it effective control of Raqqa Province, which abuts the Turkish border and whose capital city, Raqqa, has long served as the group’s de facto headquarters.

 

Photographs posted Sunday on Twitter accounts sympathetic to ISIS showed bearded fighters in the air base, standing next to a destroyed fighter jet and appearing to cut the head off a dead soldier.

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Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:08 | 5162961 Bossman1967
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wow so they just let them take an air base and no one doing anything about it??

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:15 | 5162975 Sudden Debt
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Spare parts.
That's how that story ends.
And even so, a F18 can shoot a plane like that down from 4 miles away

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:34 | 5163041 TheMeatTrapper
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My opinion is that the current situation in the Middle East is a combination of sheer arrogance, stupidity, incompetance and malice on behalf of the US government. 

I believe the US foolishly thought they could "vet" and "control" the Syrian rebels. Their arrogant stupidity resulted in the hard core Islamics quickly muscling out the "moderate rebels", takling the guns, money and logistical support with them.

Now they have a runaway operation that has ballooned out of their control and is turning into a worst case scenario.

The Syrian fiasco combined with our repeated wars against Iraq resulted in a power vacuum that crosses borders - and the ISIS fellas are dedicated enough and brutal enough to fill that vacuum.

Throw in the fact that we've destabilized Ukraine, have pissed Russia off, China is on the march, our border has been deliberately dissolved, our military machine is worn out, broke and the soldiers tired of war at the precise time we may really need an army...

Well, this is what you get when football and WalMart are the most important things in our lives. We get an incompetant nigger with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

Americans will get what they deserve - and it's going to be really, really ugly.  

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:37 | 5163046 Divided States ...
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is MH370 one of these 'stolen' aircrafts???

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:48 | 5163070 max2205
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Thank god they don't have refueling tankers for the trip across the Atlantic.

If I was Israel or Saudi I'd be nervous

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:54 | 5163085 Pinto Currency
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That's the "hornet's nest".

 

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:45 | 5163481 espirit
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Actually, it sort of looks like birdshit on the tail of that fighter jet.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:52 | 5163500 NoDebt
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Printed on the side of one of the shipping boxes:

Box number:  500

Number of boxes:  2500

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:34 | 5163741 MalteseFalcon
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"Ahmed, you are a pilot, right?  We want you to take the weekend and teach Tariq how to fly this jet.  OK?  You do it or we cut off your head, film it and put it on the YouTube.  Very embarrassing.  OK?"

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:11 | 5163814 jeff montanye
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i think the last fifty or sixty years have been a wrong turn in the mideast for the u.s.  israel is the problem.

but ....

why was obama so much more eager to drone that u.s. citizen preacher (and his kid and the kid's friend), not to mention pakistani wedding parties, but even with the incredibly minute surveillance and the absolutely unquestioned u.s. air superiority here (unlike, say, eastern ukraine) these obvious "high value targets", manned by literal and figurative anti-christs, get to rest easy?

you don't think he wants isis stronger to strike greater fear in our hearts do you?  oh heaven forfend!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:20 | 5163841 COSMOS
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This is a cover for USA bombings of Assad forces.  They will blame it on ISIS.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:35 | 5163866 palmereldritch
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Hey, they had to get those MPADS from somewhere....They sure-as-shit didn't get them from Benghazi when they killed Stevens and those SEALs when he refused to carry out the transfer of weapons knowing the Pandora's box it would unleash...right?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/08/04/Benghazi-Unauthorized-Weap...

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:01 | 5164066 SafelyGraze
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this informations is frightening because it indicates that these madmens might be planning to crater their aircrafts into rural pennsylvanias

or pentagons

or freedom ones

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 02:35 | 5164139 Drunk In Church
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It's cool that ISIS attracts global Islamic fighters.  Now that we have all the wackos in one spot, perhaps we can nuke them.  Why not?

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 05:45 | 5164213 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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This seems conspicuously reminiscent of "nuke the whales". America at its finest.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 07:55 | 5164281 GetZeeGold
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In the ISIS airforce all you have to do is be able to takeoff.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 08:35 | 5164313 Ying-Yang
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Major Fail, ISIS Wallet

https://www.paywithisis.com/

Pay with your phone | Isis Wallet™ - The Isis Wallet™ is a free app that lets you pay with your phone. You can also add offers and loyalty cards from participating merchants.

What marketing guru came up with this name? Signup and pay ransoms electronically. "Be ahead" of the pack.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:09 | 5164345 bonderøven-farm ass
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Looky there....US manufactured weapons.

Color me surprised.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 07:03 | 5164247 barre-de-rire
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even browny  faces with golden rollex at wrists napkined face driving rr phantom in town & hummer doin some sand surfing in their own backyard  while building climatized stadium  for a world cup and pratice ski between 2 daily head-down-ass-up do not move  fucking inch to clear the situation.

 

no nuke expected until no more oil in the ground...

 

wanna kill em ? drive biggest motors as much as you can... 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:07 | 5163915 Ying-Yang
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The uprising and growth of ISIS is a surprise to the world as the media spins it.

Their funding by ME oil nations is not a surprise.

This is another plan hatched by TPTB like so many before. Perpetual war is good for the MIC. It maintains MIC's capability for R&D, which keeps the US military's advantage for 1st line weapons. Next gen drones, lasers, rail guns and supersonic delivery systems to keep the pressure on foes and allies alike.

Let the big dog eat. A perpetual arms race using the world's productivity for war and destruction.

I wonder what an enlightened civilization might create with that productivity if men were not savages.

We kill and allow killing. It is sad to say we are no more enlightened than our ancestors 6 million years ago. With all our advances we can kill better. Clubs are so yesterday.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:38 | 5164034 Charming Anarchist
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<<Clubs are so yesterday.>>  Yeah but clubs are also cheap and readily available.  Not many people will stay rich forever. 

 

Holding onto an advantage for 1st line weapons is expensive and seems to be increasing exponentially.  They are also more technically difficult to maintain.  That may all come to a grinding halt in the long run. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:23 | 5163849 TheReplacement
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Israel is not the problem.  The US is the problem.  Stop meddling.

Ukraine isn't the problem.  The US is the problem.  Stop meddling.

Libya wasn't the problem.  The US was the problem.  Stop meddling.

Mexico/SA isn't the problem.  The US is the problem.  Close the border and cutoff welfare.  Prosecute people and put them in prison or take them out and shoot them (corporations).

Take some responsibility you whiner.  Our only problem is ourselves, including the need to blame others for our behavior.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:25 | 5163945 Divided States ...
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The problem with the US is that it is the puppet state of Israel, the puppet master.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:18 | 5163816 strannick
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Masked nutjobs pushing buttons in planes? Oooo we're really scared.

I can just imagine them driving one into the avgas tank at 10 miles an hour while frantically pushing buttons and pulling levers, then ejecting right after the plane explodes

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:17 | 5163837 strannick
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I changed ''raghead' to ''masked''. That better?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:40 | 5163873 McCormick No. 9
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Arabs make shitty pilots. From personal experience. Of course there are exceptions, but I wouldn't be too worried about these guys in the air.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:22 | 5164025 Citxmech
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It's not like you can teach someone to fly a combat jet effectively in a couple of weeks.  Either ISIS already had trained fighter pilots and they need transition training to a specific make and model, or they are just not going to be a that much of a threat. 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 07:41 | 5164205 daemon
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" It's not like you can teach someone to fly a combat jet effectively in a couple of weeks. .... or they are just not going to be a that much of a threat. "

Exactly, and it's not the only problem. When you know the amount of work and skill it takes to maintain those fragile birds operational, you know this information is simply another part of the joke. 

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 08:38 | 5164320 Keyser
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You forget that the US government thinks that everyone are fucking idiots... After all, they still want us to believe that Saudis with zero jet experience and very little PIC time in a Cessna, actually hijacked, flew and crashed these airplanes into buildings on 9/11... Your government thinks that little of your intelligence... 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:49 | 5164479 bh2
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Piloting a modern fighter requires somewhat more demanding skills and experience than steering an already-airborne commercial passenger plane.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:35 | 5163962 Sokhmate
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  "pull up pull up pull up pull up pull up pull up"

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:11 | 5164010 The Big Ching-aso
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Looks like another crISIS du jour in the making.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:31 | 5164029 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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"This is just like Ace Combat 4, right?"

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:17 | 5164349 Ying-Yang
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Forget about ISIS building an airforce.....

Imminent Terrorist Attack Warning By Feds on US Border

Islamic terrorist groups are operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez and planning to attack the United States with car bombs or other vehicle born improvised explosive devices (VBIED). High-level federal law enforcement, intelligence and other sources have confirmed to Judicial Watch that a warning bulletin for an imminent terrorist attack on the border has been issued.  Agents across a number of Homeland Security, Justice and Defense agencies have all been placed on alert and instructed to aggressively work all possible leads and sources concerning this imminent terrorist threat.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/imminent-terrorist-attack-warning...

Was the border left wide open to allow this to happen?

Texas brothers be on watch!

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 02:35 | 5164136 SokPOTUS
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Ahmed: "Cut off my head, you say? Why, no problem. Climb
aboard, Tariq, while I nosecone this F'er into the ground."

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:42 | 5163620 Escrava Isaura
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TheMeatTrapper,

 We know that Syria, Iran, and Russia don’t want wars, especially against US.

The problem US has against Syria and Iran is containment. They can never defeat the US. But, can they stop US invasion long enough for diplomacy to work. That means: US loses.

Near Syria, we have Iran, the second largest natural gas reserve, followed by Qatar (#3), Turkmenistan (#4), Saudi Arabia (#6), and Iraq (#11).

If the pipeline from these nations goes through Turkey, these nations will have the same problem Russia is having in Ukraine: The gas is stolen because the local population cannot afford it.

Ukraine Population: 45 million. Turkey: 73 million. Syria: 22 million

Europe needs the gas from these nations. So does China.

Ukraine, and very soon most of Europe, are pay back from US defeat in Syria and because Russia is selling US treasuries… Dumping the dollar.

If Russia succeeds, the dominos “contagion’ affects take place. Other nations will do the same, by dumping the dollar.

Then, the US neoliberal framework, since the 1980’s, collapses, because US won’t be able to undermine their economies, attack their currencies, and stronghold their countries, like in Argentina, now, and Asia and Russia, in 1990s.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:54 | 5163893 palmereldritch
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You forgot to mention the most important component in this energy calculus...currency

The FRN exists as a reserve currency by virtue that it is supported by the sale of petroleum in the Middle East (principally KSA) exclusively in the USD currency denomination, hence the term Petrodollar.

KSA is no longer the largest producer of oil and petroleum in the world.  It is now (and has been for several years) Russia.

Notwithstanding the fact that the demonic powers that be want a One World Currency via an SDR and must implode the FRN accordingly (would explain a lot of the self-destruction...no?) and in order to game the final order from the chaos they are instituting they need to remove Putin and his control of Russia’s vast energy resources and its contribution to any post-collapse SDR basket definition.

Capiche?

Perhaps explains why Putin went from G8 member to villain in such short order...when he went off-script after realizing what psycho death cultists he was dealing with and what they would do to Russia and to any other nation they have a controlling hand over...kinda like the IMF and their Nazis in Ukraine.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:51 | 5164366 Escrava Isaura
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palmereldritch

You wrote: “You forgot to mention...currency”

I agree with you. And thanks for correcting that.

So, in the last paragraph of my post, just change the word “framework” for the word “Currency” (their weapon).  

Anyway, your third paragraph is right. And that is the crux of their (Middle East and American Elites) demise and humanity breakdown.

Saudi Arabia oil and its revenues are declining. Soon, the ‘bread and circuses’ that Saudis run to their herd, it will be short on bread. So, the Saudis are panicking.

However, Saudi Arabia can offset that by exporting their natural gas through pipelines, as well as through their land, from Qatar, to Europe.

That’s why you see the largest financial and military superpower (US) and its main puppet (NATO) fighting the small military and energy independent superpower (Russia) in Syria.

Syria is the pipeline route.

About SDR, G-8 nonsense, IMF, and so on….. let’s do those in another post.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:13 | 5163137 Sudden Debt
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Isreal has way better weapons and rockets.
Also, a bearded monkey who has just learned to fly a plane doesn't stand a match against a fully trained fighter pilot who masters all tactics.
All they can do with those planes is destroy a dam like in bagdad which hasn't got any defenses.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:47 | 5163212 Anarchy 99
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"all they can do ...is destroy a dam"     

that would have some pretty serious consequences, no?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:59 | 5163376 Sudden Debt
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I don't know.... All we could do than is buy oil calls I guess and make a shitload of money :)

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:30 | 5163447 JamesBond
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When they steal a nuke from Pakistan and force a technician to 'train' them... 

 

jb

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:23 | 5163582 WOAR
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Those aircraft are not designed to carry nukes. I can tell just by looking at them. They don't have the airframe to carry a large, old school nuke, and in order to use a newer tactical nuke, you would have to program the aircraft to recognize it.

I doubt they have that capability, or the research budget to divert to something so pointless. Even if they're making millions, an F-35 with the capability to use tactical nukes costs TRILLIONS in research/development, and it still isn't functioning correctly (currently at 50% capability).

Coding is a bitch. Ask the Obamacare people.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:30 | 5163950 WOAR
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What's with the downvotes? Do any of you know anything about aircraft hard-points? Or the connections required to join a munition to the frame?

You can't just throw a nuke on an aircraft with a pull-pin fuze. That's not how nukes work.

Well, unless you were trying to blow yourself up.

Touche, downvoters, touche.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:39 | 5164102 adeptish
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Major Kong aka Slim Pickens, got 'er done...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 02:42 | 5164144 SokPOTUS
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Seriously? You only need to drop the nuke if the pilot is planning to live another day. However, if he holds the damn thing on his lap on the way in...

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 07:18 | 5167013 WOAR
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You still have to arm the thing, idiot. If you can't do it from inside the aircraft, what are you going to do? Go outside, climb out on the wings, look under the fuselage, and arm it by hand? Or are you going to fly around with an armed and unsafe munition, that could go off long before you hit your target?

Carrying a nuke on your lap is hilarious. Something that size would never go off, ever, and even if it did, it would be smaller and less effective than just carrying a conventional payload on the actual aircraft. "Suitcase nukes" are a joke.

Heck, how would he decide to set off the device in his lap? A timer? That could get destroyed when he rams something? Or an accelerometer, that would get tipped over and get set off before he hit his target? Stupid, stupid, stupid idea...if you're going to say something, at least know enough about what you're talking about to get it to work.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:54 | 5163229 Coletrane
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all those guys could do on sept 11th was destroy a couple of buildings....................

 

 

masters of tactics didnt stop them............

 

What makes you think they're training for dogfights? wtf

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:00 | 5163244 X-defiler
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Brinlliant reply. What threat is a bearded monkey with a plane full of missiles?A whole hell of a lot!!!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:19 | 5163573 Thirtyseven
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No one said they had to be capable of shooting down other fighters in dog fights.  No one said it was 100% necessary for either the plane or the pilot to make the return trip....which makes both a hell of a lot more dangerous.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:09 | 5163669 WOAR
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 No one said it was 100% necessary for either the plane or the pilot to make the return trip...

That's the frightening part. Not because they could ram something with those planes, but because they can land them on captured air strips, extending their range beyond what would be considered normal.

There's been a resurgence in using turbo-props for counter-terrorism, due to the longer loiter time of propeller engines. These planes are also perfect for terrorists, since their range can be extended due to the fact that a prop plane can land in more places than a jet (props don't suck up rocks into their engines on damaged runways).

In effect, I would be more worried if they started purchasing cheapo-cessnas that can carry WWII era munitions than anything else. All the bells and whistles on modern jets are just noise when it comes to total warfare (bombing any and all targets, even the childrens).

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:03 | 5163798 fleur de lis
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@Coltrane--

"Those guys" are destructive, violent psychos but they did not destroy a couple of buildings in NYC. That was done by our psychos.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:12 | 5163265 SilverRhino
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They aren't training to become dogfighting pilots.  They are training to become MANNED cruise missiles.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:45 | 5163629 NoDecaf
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The ISIS space program should be really interesting then.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:20 | 5163931 palmereldritch
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Is that the expected narrative?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:21 | 5163425 WOAR
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Like I said in another comment...

They don't need to be superior pilots or need superior aircraft when they're the only planes in the sky.

A Mark 82 or Mark 84 is devastating enough without all the JDAM parts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_84_bomb

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:04 | 5163529 Carpenter1
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This story has nothing to do with whether ISIS can take Israel, of course they can't,  and never will. This is the puppetmasters announcing that ISIS can now, or soon, attack with air power. 

The perfect cover for the US to start its air attacks on whoever they want to.

 

So obvious. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:40 | 5163614 Omen IV
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Idiot ! kamazee w dirty ordinance into Televiv means what?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:24 | 5163718 mjcOH1
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It means there'll be really large, really deep holes showing up shortly in the country of origin.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:01 | 5163794 drdolittle
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means ISIS isn't our boys. I'm waiting for them to attack Israel

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:40 | 5163615 Omen IV
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Idiot ! kamazee w dirty ordinance into Televiv means what?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:07 | 5163687 NoDecaf
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third time's a charm

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:31 | 5163737 tony wilson
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sudden debt as usual is playing the rabbinical fool.

isis is deep state mossad end of story.

israel only kills it's own for false flag reasons isis are doing a splendid job taking down all of israels neighbours.

sudden debt

fuck you : )

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:17 | 5163834 Minge
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Bob.  I keep reminding you to take your meds, yet you continue to blabber your trite and shop-worn dialogue.  Do I have to call your Mom?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:28 | 5163853 TheReplacement
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Yeah that's it.  Believe the narrative.  $1 says they already have trained pilots and this is a cover to make it plausible for how good they turn out to be - 'All praise Allah' - it'll only help recruiting to see the hand of God behind any success they have.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:42 | 5163878 McCormick No. 9
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All they can do is fly their airplane into it, kamikaze style. No-one will ever know if it is an accident or on purpose. Most likely accident.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 02:17 | 5164134 Bastiat
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They might be OK until they have to land ... Maybe

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:53 | 5163225 Antifaschistische
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pardon my skepticism.  "Ambitious" and "ISIS" do not belong in the same sentence.   I can think of a lot of examples of ambition, but riding around in a desert with a crap load of stolen military equipment shooting things up and sawing off a couple heads does not qualify as ambitious.  These are not men.  They are childISISh boys who could never accomplish anything other than localized bullying.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:24 | 5163431 reset71
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Actually, religious extremists are very serious and motivated. Ambitious is not a compliment.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:57 | 5163997 bitterwolf
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no need for religion...ALl extremists are serious...especially western types...they use imagination,science and the law of large numbers...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:34 | 5163450 JamesBond
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As a child I played a game where I built up a city of wooden blocks just to tear in down in a mock battle; I was king of the world.  

 

 

jb

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:51 | 5163647 Bohm Squad
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Sucks some people make a career of it...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:14 | 5163273 Rootin' for Putin
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Maybe thats what MH370 is being converted into

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:35 | 5163748 GrandPaFred
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ISIL will just copy-cat CIA/Kiev and shoot Malaysian aircraft out-of-the-sky

but instead of blaming Russia they'll blame The Vatican - those dirty Catholics did it!

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:41 | 5164376 effendi
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max, you don't need refueling tankers to get fighter aircraft across the Atlantic. Just load them on to cargo ships and send them to secondary ports in Central America. Truck north, re-assemble, re-arm, fuel up and have a few kamikaze pilots fly them over the border in the moring to strafe peak hour commuters, oil refineries, military assets, yellow school buses and CBDs.

But then again it would be easier to buy/hire a few dozen civilian aircraft inside the US and just import the kamikaze pilots through the open southern border.

 

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:16 | 5164018 Karaio
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Divided States ...: 

 

Do not! No way! 

The MH370 was abducted, he is no longer with us. 

Pieces of bones were filmed on Mars, check out the Daily Mail, it is everything. 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:19 | 5163099 X-defiler
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You think a "nigger" as you call him is the guy who is running this show? Like the drooling Texan was running the last show? I agree with everything up to the race baiting. This is about a class war, and age war, a cultural war, a religious war. Look, the old fuckers of this country need the DOW to be elevated long enough to send them neatly into the grave. The grandpas and the grandmas have supported a war against their heirs. The young have no opportunity and poor role models so they loose any sense of moral responsibility. 

Then their are the rich. They think they live in security but their kids will suffer as there is no way to protect them from the sewer they have turned this country into. Remember Traffic with Michael Douglas? His daughter ended up getting it in the backside. 

The biggest worry is the cultural divide. Hate the Jews or love them but it is undeniable that American culture is based on the Jewish culture. From Christianity to Star Trek. Its all Jewish culture. Do we have some Zionists that need to be culled? Sure. Are there some crazy fucking Jews that think the rest of us are just Goyums and expendable? For Sure. But that is the roots of our culture. 

Lastly, this is a religious war for sure. It isn't just us against the Muslims, that is not our greatest threat. It is the atheist against anything that is natural and moral. When you tell people that they are in charge of their own morality and no one is watching them, we get these leaders that clearly go off the reservation and the country does nothing.

Everyone of us better understand who our enemies are. It is those immigrants that refuse to be a part of America that are the threat. Those Jews with duel citizenships. Anyone who cannot commit to the American values, well those that we used to have. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:51 | 5163218 trader1
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it's egyptian culture.  monotheism.  pharoah.

the hebrews appropriated it.  the rest is history.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:08 | 5163256 X-defiler
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This is true, if you don't believe in the bible. If you believe, then its not. But in any case, America doesn't share much with Egytian culture, now do we? Look at all the golden age sci-fi writers whos fantasies are now our daily lives. Our very constitution is based on Jewish principles of law. The Jews didn't come and take over the west, they have been here from  the beginning of time. I am not a Jew and I am not an apologist for Zionists. Just saying, understand a little of the culture you were born into or defending. 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 02:37 | 5164138 trader1
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jewish law is based on hammurabi's (babylonian culture).  again, another example of appropriation with hebrew twists.

Inventing God's Law: How the Covenant Code of the Bible Used and Revised the Laws of Hammurabi by David P. Wright

 

 

In Inventing God’s Law: How the Covenant Code of the Bible Used and Revised the Laws of Hammurabi, David P. Wright has laid out in great detail his argument that the Covenant Code (Exod 20:23–23:33; henceforth CC) is dependent both in content and structure on the Laws of Hammurabi (henceforth LH). In the first chapter of the book, Wright sets forth his general claim. In the second and third chapters, the detailed arguments for the dependence of the casuistic (ch. 2) and apodictic (ch. 3) sections of CC on LH are presented. Chapter 4 proposes the historical setting for the composition of CC: in the Neo-Assyrian period, specifically between 740 and 640 B.C.E. Chapters 5–11 describe the process by which CC transformed its source material, in both legal and ideological terms. Chapter 12 discusses the possibility of secondary growth in CC and the contextualization of CC in a larger Exodus narrative. The conclusion summarizes and focuses the foregoing arguments. Wright’s book is thorough in its detail, providing extended discussions of virtually every passage in CC as well as very useful charts and layouts of the texts in question. The argumentation is clear at every point, which allows for the reader to easily evaluate Wright’s claims. 

http://www.bookreviews.org/pdf/7232_7874.pdf

 

the bible is a man-made concoction of layered myths with some historically-verifiable facts to justify a particular belief system and give a meaning to existence.  there are many other ways to live a good life of loving your neighbor as yourselves.  ask the buddha.

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 04:04 | 5164172 X-defiler
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"jewish law is based on hammurabi's (babylonian culture)"

Something always came from somewhere. The Babalonians don't exists anymore. The Jews do. Also, why is it that athiests always say stupid shit like, "there are many other ways to live a good life of loving your neighbor as yourselves" When clearly people have a hard time controlling themselves. If you honestly think that your existance on this planet for some 30 to 50 years gives you the wisdom of the ages, you are a Darwin prize winner in waiting. Your presumptions assumes that people are smart enough and moral enough to handle their own desires and have the wisdom enough to undersatnd self sacrifice. I've not seen it. We should all get along but we don't. You can denie the exsistance of GOD all day and night. You can give me your 30 to 50 years of learned wisdom. But its still shit compared to 5,000 years of human history. You maybe right, the bible may be made up but you weren't there. You are just shitting out what someone else has told you.  

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 05:16 | 5164199 trader1
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so i'm an atheist now, because i have a critical eye for historical patterns in social, legal, and religious development?

by the way, i like several of those christian mystics, i.e. hildegard of bingen, meister eckhart, brother klaus.

ever heard of them?

 

or, maybe you heard of spinoza's god.

 

don't put me in your box,

 because i will not fit your narrow constructions of

"reality"

 

jesus and judas were con-artists?!

 

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 10:17 | 5164392 X-defiler
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Again, you are a child screaming about how you know better. I'm not putting you in a box. No box fits a fool. Again, you weren't there yet you are so confindent in someone elses idea. Kinda sounds like a religious behavior. You are a confused person. You are living proof of what happens to a person that believes he serves no one but himself. That he can choose from one bad idea vs another. You are the poster child for why we cannot ever get along peacefully when we hold ourselves as the end-all, be-all of moral judgement. The world is currently suffering from your exact mental and moral condition.  

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 04:08 | 5164828 trader1
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you just failed the test.  

i was gunning for a response from you and i got one.  but, unfortunately not to my expectations.

i was looking for someone to play with, and now you went all serious on me.  

 

have fun.  loosen up.  

 

What is this world that is hastening me toward I know not what, viewing me with contempt 

-Khalil Gibran

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 03:57 | 5164173 X-defiler
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Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:47 | 5163880 McCormick No. 9
Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:37 | 5163455 TheMeatTrapper
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"You think a "nigger" as you call him is the guy who is running this show?"

Not really. He's supposed to be; but even more than Bush, he's abdicated the job to the intelligence community and the MIC. 

And yes, he is a nigger. 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 04:03 | 5164175 X-defiler
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"but even more than Bush, he's abdicated the job to the intelligence community and the MIC" 

What are you 5 years old? He did a bad thing but someone else did it worse? Your an idiot. Who do you want to babysit your kids, a rapist or a murderer? They are all bad. Its useless arguments like this that keep us from solving real issues. They, whoever "They" are, expect this sort of stupid behavior as a tactic to take the eyes off of them. Stop with your racism and misplaced anger. Do something useful.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:54 | 5163657 Rusty Shorts
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Proof the Leadership is Pure SCUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyiSEMKV2E

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:45 | 5163759 GrandPaFred
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well read from your teleprinter O'blamer [X-defiler- you tell 'em!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:45 | 5163209 Anarchy 99
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yes, good and hard...........

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:57 | 5163235 RafterManFMJ
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...stolen aircraft.

Captured, expropriated - but stolen?

Good lord! What is up with the writing one some of these posts? Intentional or just ignorant?

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:53 | 5163890 disabledvet
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"After a long hard day of head chopping, water boarding and mock executions these surprisingly well trained CIA operatives decided to ask the Syrian dude in the blue suit and with shiny stuff on his hat what the thing with wings was for...

compliance was not an issue...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:05 | 5163387 lester1
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You pay for it then trapper keeper.. meahwhile i just hit a bunch of potholes here in America  that need fixing.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:29 | 5163442 TheMeatTrapper
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What makes you think I favor being involved in the Middle East? I'm a Ron Paul supporter and have no desire to be involved in the Middle East, NATO, Korea or anywhere else. 

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:17 | 5163420 reset71
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@themeatrapper You sounded intelligent until you sounded like a pathetic loser.  Black and white soldiers risk everything for feeble men like you. Wise up or go away.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:27 | 5163437 TheMeatTrapper
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Black and white soldiers are the ones who marched over to the Middle East and tore things up, destabilizing the area and setting the stage for this chaos. 

They have done nothing to protect me or my fellow citizens. Wise up or go away. 

You are welcome to come to Alabama and see how feeble I am. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:49 | 5163639 reset71
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You are a racist loser. You are what's wrong with this country.  You said the country will get what it deserves- you are talking about yourself you racist fucking idiot.  

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:36 | 5163751 fishmonger
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Using the word "nigger" is not what's wrong with this country. Politically correct liberal left wing pussies are a large part of what's wrong with this country, among other things. Dry up those tears of self righteous indignation.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:19 | 5163838 TheMeatTrapper
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@reset71:

I am no racist. I have no problem with any black man who works hard, provides for his family and leads a civil life. 

I also have no problem calling somebody a nigger, a redneck, white trash, a spic or anything else. 

People like you who are too stupid to understand the difference and have allowed other people to dictate to you what is allowable speech are whats wrong with this country. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:33 | 5163865 TheReplacement
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And you still use words that act like a dog whistle to people like him knowing full well that the debate will be derailed from the topic at hand to whether you are racist or not.

Brilliant.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:25 | 5164093 TheMeatTrapper
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I don't allow fuckwits to dictate my speech. 

Those that do? Not brilliant.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:30 | 5164097 reset71
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You know what, I'm sorry for calling you an idiot and all- I don't usually fly off the handle.  I just get real fed up with all the racism on ZH.  We both dislike Obama and Socialism. Your name lets me know that you value individualism and self reliance. I happen to vote libertarian myself.  I have a backyard garden, I fish, and I stack PM.  When you go calling Obama a "nigger", even if you are just joking around, it detracts from any point you might have.  We both hate that the idiot Obama is prez, but look, he got over 90% of the black vote. When black people read comments like yours, they probably end up thinking that the other political parties are full of racists, so why would they ever join our side? I know it's a free country and that's why we can say things like jesus on the cross fucking nigger christ, but that sort of language just divides people.  The rappers and the young kids say nigger all the time; usually you can tell they are just playing stupid. On the other hand, you actually sounded racist.  I will probably have to leave ZH pretty soon- I've been reading it for years.  There are too many people on here just making stuff up about Jews and the US causing all the world's problems.  And then those dummies get like 50 upvotes.  I can tell that The ZH forums are turning into company with nitwits.  Anyways, peace, so long.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:42 | 5163618 Escrava Isaura
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...

 

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 01:13 | 5164079 California Nigh...
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Well put, Meattrapper.

Sad to say, our white boys at the top are just as incompetent.

Me? Back to Home Depot for more concrete pavers.  (They attentuate gamma rays from nuclear explosions.)

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 09:58 | 5164390 Space Animatoltipap
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Nice analysis. But also: what you do you get back. In this body or the next. Karma rules the material world. So on balance everything is perfect. Hare Krishna.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:52 | 5163082 SilverIsKing
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It seems as though ISIS is doing just what they were established to do.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:58 | 5163897 disabledvet
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I agree with this. Indeed while they "may have exceeded their mandate" I think no one can doubt the efficacy of a good CIA station chief anymore.

It'll be interesting to see if the Pentagon and the President can keep up now.

These ISIS dudes are like a geopolitical Bucky ball...kinda came out of nowhere.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:03 | 5163112 Sinnedi
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Nice establishment propaganda I'll put something more worthy down.  The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0


Sun, 08/31/2014 - 15:26 | 5165294 localspaced
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...yuhuh..and you actually believe this shit?

Nihilists like me always win...why? We don't want what we can't get, we don't dream and there's nothing you can destroy that we wouldn't destroy ourselves, just to watch how it comes apart.

My worldview is simple. There are two kinds of people. On one hand there's the utopists and that includes the three big monotheist death cults, socialism, jihad is, tinfoilhatters like yourself and everybody that thinks they know better. On the other hand there's the chosen few that accept that we are just monkeys with overgrown skulls and a tendency to inbreed. We are content to sit, fuck and fling shit at each other and watch the utopists burn down their own monkeypile..

It makes the news pretty easy to follow.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 18:07 | 5163257 RafterManFMJ
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You know, often in war when you're losing your positions you torch or blow up whatever you cannot take with you - you know, so your "enemy" (heeheehee) doesn't get the munitions or systems.

Even back in the day, muzzle loading artillery would be 'spiked' in the touchhole so they could not be turned on their former owners. It ain't rocket surgery, people.

So, one has to ask, why do complete systems, from aircraft to tanks keep falling into ISIS hands? One grenade, which one can assume any army in the ME has an abundance of, destroys a tank, a jet, a helicopter...

Yet somehow the Iraqis keep leaving equipment behind? No Army in the last 400 years is that incompetent.

Conclusion: The Iraqis are being ordered to leave weapons behind, or systems are being supplied to the ISIS by, uh, their sponsors and the 'captured' meme is thin cover for the vast mouth-breathing public.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:43 | 5163471 Eyeroller
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Snap.

When it was reported that the dam had been 'taken back' from ISIS, why didn't ISIS blow it up? 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:28 | 5163725 Edelweiss
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 An intact dam that you may be able to regain control of, offers you leverage.  A destroyed dam under anyone's control has no value. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:37 | 5163963 WOAR
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A dam you can destroy with stolen aircraft in retaliation is good PR.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:49 | 5164049 El Crusty
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also keep in mind that ISIS wants to control the area, not destroy it with a massive flood.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:36 | 5163869 TheReplacement
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Yeah but this was a Syrian base was it not?  Are the Syrians that incompetent as well?  Are they just following orders (certainly not the ones beheaded when captured)?

Just what is going on?

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:18 | 5164020 VWAndy
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Im with Rafter on this. Its cover to bomb the crap out of Assad. You dont leave weapons behind. They have rules about it.

Sun, 08/31/2014 - 00:32 | 5164027 herohedge
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edit: I was trying to reply to whomever posted: http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by... but I think I replied to the wrong person...

That article is bogus. Bloggers can't just preface whatever the fuck they want with "Snowden revealed" and proceed to explain any arbitrary conspiracy theory. Snowden leaked documents, and leaked them to a number of known journalists ( http://cryptome.org/2014/07/snowden-documents-nsa-foia-14-0721.pdf ). So if there are no documents and are no journalists/papers writing these stories with known access to the documents, they're false or at least unproven.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5162986 john39
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this story is a total joke... meant to hide that fact that ISIS is a merc army.  syrian prisoner pilots would not fucking train some idiots to fly fighter jets.  this is absolutely preposterous...  

the pilots are likely from a few select U.S./Israel controlled gulf states... 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:33 | 5163019 nope-1004
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Agreed.

 

 

CIA  BULLSHIT

 

When ISIS invades Israel and uses nerve gas on the local women and children, I'll change my tune.

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:40 | 5163055 Chupacabra-322
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How I would love for that scenario to play out at Langley, Virgina. Minus the Children of course.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:59 | 5163078 nope-1004
Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:07 | 5163121 Smerf
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Too bad it never is minus the children.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:52 | 5163081 savagegoose
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we'll know if syria falls and turkey gets to be next, its NATO and can call  allies for help. no time for Ukerain then

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:39 | 5163870 TheReplacement
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Whose to say that won't happen anyway?  Suppose that BaghdaddyO is both CIA and true believer.  I'd imagine he'd play the part right up to the point where he feels strong enough to choose his own course.  If/when that happens, look out cuz these people will kill anyone, anywhere, at anytime.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:59 | 5163904 disabledvet
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"We can neither confirm nor deny...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:33 | 5163035 Renewable Life
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Will someone alert the MSM they can go to.......
Vicenews.com and watch 8 in depth dispatches from the front lines of this conflict, with reporters embedded with both ISIS and the Kurds!!!

Their using any air assets to move men and material around the battlefield theatre, NOT trying to fuck with some top gun bullshit!!

See these motherfuckers are engaging in the concept of total war here, NATO is so fucking clueless and unprepared for this, they think we are still in a "containment strategy" from the Bush/Clinton era for gods sake!!

These ISIS fighters and the Kurds now you win wars by controlling the ground and the resources on the ground, that's what they are doing!!

ISIS has thousands if not 10,000 English and French speaking, western educated, well trained fighters within their ranks!! For the first time in the ME battlefield, western guerrilla warfare tactics are being used, and it is a game changing dynamic! They are stealing billions of dollars of oil and warfare loot weekly and reassigning it to the battlefield!! They are consolidating food, water, and re supply mechanisms to help control territory. Etc etc

It's a fucking serious problem to say the least!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:15 | 5163143 Smerf
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The idea that isis is composed of citizens of western countries is troubling. I wonder how many of them were actually born here, or whose parents were born here?

Not to say anything about immigration, because we are all immigrants from somewhere, but I couldn't imagine too many of them are.

I suppose that is the idea of some major 'false flag' attack, and then we can start a holy war / crusade in the middle east to motivate our youth.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:10 | 5163401 Dugald
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That's it a CRUSADE....CRUSADE, oh yus!

Maud! where's me bow n arrers, and dig out the sand sack, I need to polish me chain-mail vest.

Forget it you old fart, you'r 81 an yer sodjering days is over!

I can still shoot the high 90's, I'm still useful aint I?


Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:00 | 5163518 espirit
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I plan to send the youngsters with their Black Guns within 50 yards of where the action is, as that be the distance they practice.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:57 | 5163668 Karaio
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Smurf: 

 

I'll tell you something: 

The big problem is with the Gilette and its CEO. 

The guys brutally increased the price and created "G's". 

The staff in the Middle East do not have money to shave. 

Much less water to join that bunch of soap (actually kelp) thick. 

Here in Brazil, a decent shaver three blades cost more than two dollars! 

Hard just to make three beards! 

Chinese flooded the market with those yellow but that thing does not work crap. 

Since you are a man acquainted, I'm passing you the hint. 

Look for the guys heads the ISIS and try to sell this product in any way. 

You bet, sell refrigerator to Eskimo is easier. 

As for false flag can believe will be new again somewhere. 

hehe.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:17 | 5163565 JulianAD
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Vicenews.com for real news? Are you drunk? Vice is disinformation for hipsters. It's is backed by Murdoch and WPP the worlds largest advertising agency.
http://www.adnews.com.au/adnews/wpp-and-murdoch-backed-vice-mulls-29-bil...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:34 | 5163746 Rusty Shorts
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Bingo

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 21:54 | 5163771 Renewable Life
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Your right, get your ass back too CNN and the likes, why don't you try watching it for yourself and compare it to anything else on the internet besides some bullshit webcam in some third world riot, speaking some language no one can understand!!

Why don't you give me a link of some "non hipster" news source oh wise one

Why don't you look up the full story on the vice guys, where they came from and the type of citizen, witness journalism they have been doing for 15 plus years, no one else has been anywhere close to as honest in "telling the story" I've seen,,

But I'm sure you got it all figured out man, post that link

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:59 | 5163237 Coletrane
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i think you seriously underestimate the level of motivation of a pilot who is being threatened with seeing his wife /children beheaded.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:17 | 5162993 TheMeatTrapper
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Spare parts can be bought with money. They have plenty of money. 

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:51 | 5163077 European American
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Hard working, but idiot, American taxpayers continue to volunteer their fiat currency to fund the various CIA backed organizations.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:20 | 5163840 CCanuck
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Taxpayer money was spent long ago, yellen and her press provide the liquidity now.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:14 | 5163925 disabledvet
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I'm pretty sure those were Chevy Silverado pickups they were driving in. Might have to start re-branding the badge to move some extra metal here. Kinda "Jihad" meets "Detroit" meets Harley Choppers (so to speak) kinda thing.

I'm thinking full time all wheel drive, 300 plus horsepower, heavy duty Allison transmission, 19 inch rims, set of Goodyear "Dortmund" radials...500,000 mile warranty, all electric "highway" drive , supercapictors, an outlet to charge up all the wireless gear, regenerative braking, bench seating, a winch, a hydraulic swing arm, 8 foot long dump bed, 12,000 pound towing capacity, 2 ton carrying capacity, air ride adjustable suspension...all standard and for under 40,000.

Did I miss anything? Courtesy "weed whacker"? Electric chain saw? Front and back PTO's? Sky's the limit here folks...

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:25 | 5163018 X-defiler
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Respect and be alert of all your enemies or you will end up like nebakanezer.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 19:07 | 5163390 WOAR
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Er...just because they can't fight in an air-to-air dogfight, doesn't mean they don't have the capability to deliver woarheads on foreheads...

They don't need air superiority against every plane in the sky, they just need air superiority where there are no planes.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:21 | 5163844 CCanuck
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They don't need trained pilots, they just need the storyline of who trained them.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:19 | 5163839 Dr Strangemember
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I'm no expert... but... given the sand crawlers can't fly these birds very well... if at all right now, how about we just bomb the bases with a few tomawks and end this issue.  Ok, Im done "thinking" now.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:46 | 5163979 ebear
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If it can even get airborne.  That thing doesn't look like it can taxi, much less fly.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 16:17 | 5162994 Renewable Life
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I've been saying this for years, 2015-16 are setting up to be global years for the history books!! All the factors are there and have been building for decades, couple that with a US President who continues to exceed expectations on incompetence and cluelessness on a weekly basis, and a global centralized reserve banking system at the end of its viable rope, and it's buckle up time with very few places to hide!

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 20:07 | 5163533 espirit
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Since the 'winners' write the history books, you think psychopaths really care who's left alive to write them?

In 500 million years, all they'll find is mushroom clouds painted on cave walls.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 22:20 | 5163843 Dr Strangemember
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Mmmmmmmm, I like mushrooms.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 17:01 | 5163107 Canadian Dirtlump
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This article is retard bait and embarrassing by national enquirer standards.

Sat, 08/30/2014 - 23:34 | 5163957 espirit
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Unfortunately, the retards win by shear numbers.

It sux to be us.

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