Where does it say on the ISIS Monster "Made in America?"
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.
For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. The Guardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved
McCain is perhaps the most evil politician in office. Libya you name it he is always there shaking hands before and after and always a warmonger under the guise of patriotism. Talk about someone who should be sent to a desert island....
The entire FEDGOV has broken the law and is operating illegally. These crimes and the many other felonious acts warrant not impeachment, but immediate arrest.
If you want to know why POTUS de jour can get away with stuff, bring lois learner out of retirement. And her local POP mail server running on her bestbuy HP laptop.
If you don't believe me, you don't have a passport.
America life has become an obsession to acquire a pile of stuff, real stuff and digitized stuff in banking computers. If you don't have stuff, you are a failed, nobody, loser in the American scheme of things. Someone poor.
Tax laws are convoluted and ambiguous so that Lois Lehrner and her crew can steal from anyone who speaks out.
We don't need no Lubyanka Prison or black sedans hauling people away. The threat from Lois and her ilk is enough to keep the cowards in line.
That's why Lois's hard drive, backed up emails, etc. will never be found. Lois was only doing her job, executing Zino-Bankster government policy.
This is the reality of Freedumb in Amerika today. I wish some of these deluded pro Junta Ukrainians would take a look and see what they're trying to get themselves into.
That report is more than a mouthfull. I have to flow with a whole lot of assumptions to buy that. You have no down marks as I type this. I am overwhelmed (worried it is true) and suspicisous of counter propoganda.
Mr. or Ms. puppy, there is a point where I just gotta check out and go "fuck it" I can't know anything.
And maybe that is all that the propogandists want from their propoganda.
Re. OBUMMER pro cannibal. I stongly disagree. US of A is arming, training, supplying the cannibals out of Jordan and make no secret about it. So, yes, Obummer et. al. are pro-cannibal.
In case any of you don't understand the cannibal reference, you can pick and choose from the following to get up to speed.
The monstrosity of Obama is he is incompetent and has not changed the government set up by Bush. Too bad the first black president was clueless about everything except getting elected by the proletariat.
I was quite liberal in my old incarnation. I meant well. I wanted fairness. I did always "respect" conservatives (I admit I thought William F. Buckley was fascinating when I was a teen, and reluctantly thought Pat Buchanon made good points, but would have never admitted I thought that publicly). I had to figure out on my own that what liberals wanted was being done at other's expense. That was not okay.
Old school conservative, if you keep your nose out of my private life, was good stuff.
Forgive us as we come into the fold. Many of us meant well, we saw the corruption of the rich at the expense of others. You have to get the other piece of the puzzle and that takes a minute or two.
I was conservative all the way: subscribed to National Review while in high school, big fan of WF Buckley etc...
Became more and more disillusioned with 'conservatives' and finally swore I'd never support the Rethuglicans ever again when they hung Pat Toomey out to dry and instead supported that worthless sack of #%*+ Arlen Spector, may he burn in Hell.
More you learn the more you disengage from the Kabuki play they put on; I laugh at the imbeciles who get worked up over Blue vs. Red yet never forget that I was once one of them.
Still read Buchanan and recommend his books esp. The Unnecessary War and The Death of the West.
Arlen Specter was a Team Player (The Dark Team) and was rewarded accordingly. They hated us for our freedoms. Arlen Specter did his part to see that our freedoms were taken from us. There is a special place in Hell waiting for Mr. Specter.
I remember bigger demonstrations in the 60's and 70's...with an actual "call to action" (FYI millenials...)
On much much much less provocation
It's who we are now
Prozac nation
Not nearly so much as there is today. MSM has always been corporate/govt controlled. The blogosphere and forums such as ZH not so much. It pisses me off though that the federales take tax money from me to pay people to shape public opinion. It seems to be the antithesis of free speech.
Yeah, TD keeps throwing out the Qatar connection. Qatar has options. I understand they changed course. The son took over as the new Emir and they will build a pipeline under the Persian Gulf to Gazprom via Iran.
That leaves Israel alone with the problem of getting their offshore, Leviathan gas to Europe via what they hope will be a reconfigured Syria.
Fat chance on a greater Israel. Much more realistic to put in a puppet regime that stops aiding Hez/Hamas and stops working with Russia and Iran, until the next actual free election. Then things just go back to being what there were.
A greater Israel would be so blatantly obvious and odious that nobody but maybe US Gov would back it.
No, but you are free to do so. Let's see you hang your pinata out there for everybody to take a whack at. If your reasoning is valid you should endure quite well. If not, well,..... pobrecito!
Ever notice how the main stream ass kissers have posiened tthe minds of multiple generations that blindly fall into line and dutifully throw themselves into the banker meat grinder without pause for a little independent thought?
Second, we, the ZHsters are statistically speaking, American citizens. That combined with our duty to feel free to judge our own government and it's actions is called freedom.
I say it's freedom we are fighting for.
If, however we are not negative towards any specific individual or group it is irrelevant to suggest we are biased; therefore. Most of us here are trying to be factual, asking questions most do not, stating reason when most can't, and above all being sovereign.
Unlike you, who should read my first sentence and start.
I think thats just because the true narrative is that every recent conflict from Georgia on out we instigated and Russia has been forced to respond. Russia played its gas pipelines right and we are trying to play catch up by instigating situation to wrest control of these pipeline geographies Russia already controls and then saying falsely Russia is the aggressor when in fact U.S. foreign policy from Bush sponsored by the New American Century cabal has been a chaotic failure. You don't get it do you if you think there is a bias here, its just the true story line.
@craus: "Ever notice how ZH never prints anything negative about Russia?"
Let me offer you this Paradigm Shift, since it appears that you've never had a position of power in private corporations...
The internal business processes of a company "our company" is not to go on and on about how bad our competitors are, but to discuss, critique or even criticize our internal flaws, weaknesses and failures. There are biz names for these things: Continuous Improvement, Total Quality...
The world of Judaism and western thought process: every single idea on earth is open season to dissect, to examine, to undress, to humiliate, to tear apart, to debate, to laugh and mock. Certain thoughts and ideas have special place reserved for the greatest humiliation and defeat. Thoughts like the resurrection, vicarious atonment for sin through faith, disbelief in the holocaust (called "denial" to fully insure anyone in this group is equal to someone denying gravity), non-support of homosexual nuptials, gun rights, etc.
Why or why or why is there absolutely not one single respected and wide known authority in all the western world promoting the idea that war is not good? Someone supporting G. Washington's views about staying out of other nation's business and staying neutral?
Just for kicks and giggles I read about half of a recent WAPO OP-ED piece. This was written by a pro Obama type alleged liberal. His view: it's OK for our dear wittle Baracky-poo to admit he has been error in his foreign policy, to repent, and turn around, and jump on the Bush-McCain-Lindsay Graham bandwagon, get some more American military boots on the ground, and kick some Muslim ass around the world.
Of every God-forsaken national politician, you'd be hard pressed to find a dozen who are against starting a fucking war any where in the world we can visit.
Nothing changed. U.S. wants to control the energy resources flowing through Syria. We turned against Assad as he was aligning more with Russia. This gambit is along the lines we don't want IS to have control of it and maybe Assad will appreciate a favor...defeating the enemy the U.S. unleased on him IS.
The true biased reporting is done by most of the mass media, the major networks which parrot the propaganda they are fed by the government and do not report the other side of the story which is factually more true. The media pretends to be unbiased but really is only the voice of government propaganda/lies since the advertisers that pay their bills have bought out the government and the media. Oil companies and their pals. Basically if you are only watching TV you have no clue what is going on and believe what the oligarchy in the U.S. wants you to think, even searching on the internet its difficult to eek your way to determining whats going on since the story lines keep getting dropped. Just remember its always about energy sources and where pipeling go when one digs for the truth. Stories after that about religions and terrorists are all covers and disinformation to confuse the sheeple by giving them fodder for their poor little brains to chew which has nothing to do with real food - truth.
Agreed. And what Craig Murray said was just the tip of the iceberg.
The British political elites & Establishment are probably the most corrupt and ruthless criminals anywhere in the world.
As I've said a 1,000 times "Britain's system of govt is institutionally corrupt". It's had 800 years to develop and to refine & hide it from view to the point where few people can see it.
So we're trying to cobble together air bases and ground bases to deal with a rogue entity we developed. Why are we doing it when we have a "Gallant little Ally" right next door with the fourth largest air force in the world? Bombing from 30,000 feet should be just as safe as bombing Gaza civilians.
This is an classic example of bloody US progressive policy where the progressives "embrace" the islamic world. In the new progressive regime everyone dances in the streets with the muslims singing kumbaya while unicorns shit skittles everywhere. Tra la la!
Remember the great Cairo speech? Almost immediately obozo had to go proclaim to the muslim world that he, the great Bill Ayers taught Marxist America-hating progressive muslim was going to mend relations with the murdering islamic snackbarian world. Obozo declared: "my job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy."
So what happened to the progressive embrace of the muslim world? What happens with any progressive policy?
Where does it say on the ISIS Monster "Made in America?"
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.
For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. The Guardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
http://t.co/w8hpUpAbkx
Ho.ly.Sh.it.
Am I reading that pic right? We got Senator John McCain taking a buddy picture with Abu Masa, ISIS Press Officer?
WTF?
I'm not exactly sure that is McCain.
Besides, you never know when the ISIS Press Officer will photo bomb your Snapchat selfie.
that is absolutely McCain - there are many other photos.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=mccain+syria&client=firefox-a&hs=Oed&rls=...
The question is which jihadis he was meeting with...
What goes around, comes around. Old adage. Still true.
Common dudes, you know nothing's made in the USA anymore.
lol
McCain is perhaps the most evil politician in office. Libya you name it he is always there shaking hands before and after and always a warmonger under the guise of patriotism. Talk about someone who should be sent to a desert island....
The entire FEDGOV has broken the law and is operating illegally. These crimes and the many other felonious acts warrant not impeachment, but immediate arrest.
Grimaldus
Yup. Further research below in my post.
What goes around comes around. Never ending bad acts.
I believe that Assad was an optometrist in England before he was called back
to Syria to help get the government straightened out. Sounds like a pretty scarey
dude to me. The USA portrays moral leaders as tyrants and despots as heroes if it
suits their objectives. Believe nothing you hear and be suspicious of everything you
see. Let common sense guide you, not the propaganda of the media.
I believe the latter to be both; then & now.
If you want to know why POTUS de jour can get away with stuff, bring lois learner out of retirement. And her local POP mail server running on her bestbuy HP laptop.
If you don't believe me, you don't have a passport.
America life has become an obsession to acquire a pile of stuff, real stuff and digitized stuff in banking computers. If you don't have stuff, you are a failed, nobody, loser in the American scheme of things. Someone poor.
Tax laws are convoluted and ambiguous so that Lois Lehrner and her crew can steal from anyone who speaks out.
We don't need no Lubyanka Prison or black sedans hauling people away. The threat from Lois and her ilk is enough to keep the cowards in line.
That's why Lois's hard drive, backed up emails, etc. will never be found. Lois was only doing her job, executing Zino-Bankster government policy.
This is the reality of Freedumb in Amerika today. I wish some of these deluded pro Junta Ukrainians would take a look and see what they're trying to get themselves into.
It is all fun and games till a goon and/or a judge shows up at your door. I will deduct every bit of that event off my taxes.
21 minutes to summarize why we are where we are. Worth the listen.
The Covert Origins of ISIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&feature=youtube_gdata
That report is more than a mouthfull. I have to flow with a whole lot of assumptions to buy that. You have no down marks as I type this. I am overwhelmed (worried it is true) and suspicisous of counter propoganda.
Mr. or Ms. puppy, there is a point where I just gotta check out and go "fuck it" I can't know anything.
And maybe that is all that the propogandists want from their propoganda.
This sucks.
Where, in that cartoon, does Zero transfer the 1000 white Toyota trucks to the gentleman at the bottom right?
And, what a Keynsian approach to dishoarding the excess inventory of Toyotas, eh.
Man I hope OJ is driving one of those white vehicles.
Ok, "Heads I win". make your bet...
So... If I get TAILS I win?
Yes: Heads I win Tails you lose. (r-u fuking retarded?)
Too bad ISIS knows quality and won't take Chevy Colorado pick-ups.
Obama is the really dangerous monster.
He is just the purchased idiot in front of the camera. Pull the curtain and peek...
At least he hasn't come out as pro-cannibal yet. If the judge is a cannibal you know you're fucked.
Re. OBUMMER pro cannibal. I stongly disagree. US of A is arming, training, supplying the cannibals out of Jordan and make no secret about it. So, yes, Obummer et. al. are pro-cannibal.
In case any of you don't understand the cannibal reference, you can pick and choose from the following to get up to speed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube.com+syrian+rebels+eat+liver&ie=u...
The monstrosity of Obama is he is incompetent and has not changed the government set up by Bush. Too bad the first black president was clueless about everything except getting elected by the proletariat.
Iran-Iraq in the '70s all over again....and again....and again....
Why does it continue to work on the Sheeple every time...is anyone really "waking up"...as the alt media claims...?
Evidence seems to say otherwise...I remember bigger demonstrations in the 60's and 70's...with an actual "call to action" (FYI millenials...)
Finally, you're making some sense.
I'm convinced the closet liberals are joining the Libertarians. Imagine the good things that could come from that idea.
;-D
I was quite liberal in my old incarnation. I meant well. I wanted fairness. I did always "respect" conservatives (I admit I thought William F. Buckley was fascinating when I was a teen, and reluctantly thought Pat Buchanon made good points, but would have never admitted I thought that publicly). I had to figure out on my own that what liberals wanted was being done at other's expense. That was not okay.
Old school conservative, if you keep your nose out of my private life, was good stuff.
Forgive us as we come into the fold. Many of us meant well, we saw the corruption of the rich at the expense of others. You have to get the other piece of the puzzle and that takes a minute or two.
Hey babe, hope you are doing well.
Word.
I was conservative all the way: subscribed to National Review while in high school, big fan of WF Buckley etc...
Became more and more disillusioned with 'conservatives' and finally swore I'd never support the Rethuglicans ever again when they hung Pat Toomey out to dry and instead supported that worthless sack of #%*+ Arlen Spector, may he burn in Hell.
More you learn the more you disengage from the Kabuki play they put on; I laugh at the imbeciles who get worked up over Blue vs. Red yet never forget that I was once one of them.
Still read Buchanan and recommend his books esp. The Unnecessary War and The Death of the West.
Arlen Specter was a Team Player (The Dark Team) and was rewarded accordingly. They hated us for our freedoms. Arlen Specter did his part to see that our freedoms were taken from us. There is a special place in Hell waiting for Mr. Specter.
Arlen Specter and the Single Bullet Theory:
http://arlen-specter.tripod.com/
www.assassinationscience.com/ArlenSpecterandtheMagicBullet.pdf
Jesse Helms was the Man.
I remember bigger demonstrations in the 60's and 70's...with an actual "call to action" (FYI millenials...)
On much much much less provocation
It's who we are now
Prozac nation
...and there was a semblance of a free press in those days.
Not nearly so much as there is today. MSM has always been corporate/govt controlled. The blogosphere and forums such as ZH not so much. It pisses me off though that the federales take tax money from me to pay people to shape public opinion. It seems to be the antithesis of free speech.
Its hard to beat cubic dollars. So long as the money is there it aint even a race.
WIN...Whip ISIS Now! Someone should make buttons...
Funny, but not true.
CIA and Israel created ISIS as a tool to implement Greater Israel and get Israel their gas pipeline to Europe.
Same as it ever was.
An American, not US subject.
Yeah, TD keeps throwing out the Qatar connection. Qatar has options. I understand they changed course. The son took over as the new Emir and they will build a pipeline under the Persian Gulf to Gazprom via Iran.
That leaves Israel alone with the problem of getting their offshore, Leviathan gas to Europe via what they hope will be a reconfigured Syria.
Come on Tylers. Call a spade a spade.
Fat chance on a greater Israel. Much more realistic to put in a puppet regime that stops aiding Hez/Hamas and stops working with Russia and Iran, until the next actual free election. Then things just go back to being what there were.
A greater Israel would be so blatantly obvious and odious that nobody but maybe US Gov would back it.
Ever notice how ZH never prints anything negative about Russia?
No, but you are free to do so. Let's see you hang your pinata out there for everybody to take a whack at. If your reasoning is valid you should endure quite well. If not, well,..... pobrecito!
That's all mainstream press does, we come here for non-mainstream press.
Ever notice how the main stream ass kissers have posiened tthe minds of multiple generations that blindly fall into line and dutifully throw themselves into the banker meat grinder without pause for a little independent thought?
booboo - shocking to see that in action in Ukraine. What are those people smoking, fighting for IMF slavery and dual-citizen overlords??
Well many eastern european are just neo-nazis. Does that help?
Not true. There have been posts that called out both sides for their BS.
I suggest you start reading for one.
Second, we, the ZHsters are statistically speaking, American citizens. That combined with our duty to feel free to judge our own government and it's actions is called freedom.
I say it's freedom we are fighting for.
If, however we are not negative towards any specific individual or group it is irrelevant to suggest we are biased; therefore. Most of us here are trying to be factual, asking questions most do not, stating reason when most can't, and above all being sovereign.
Unlike you, who should read my first sentence and start.
Or, go fuck yourself.
I think thats just because the true narrative is that every recent conflict from Georgia on out we instigated and Russia has been forced to respond. Russia played its gas pipelines right and we are trying to play catch up by instigating situation to wrest control of these pipeline geographies Russia already controls and then saying falsely Russia is the aggressor when in fact U.S. foreign policy from Bush sponsored by the New American Century cabal has been a chaotic failure. You don't get it do you if you think there is a bias here, its just the true story line.
ever notice how the mainstream media never prints anything negative about the machinations of corporate / government power structures dominating common people?
@craus: "Ever notice how ZH never prints anything negative about Russia?"
Let me offer you this Paradigm Shift, since it appears that you've never had a position of power in private corporations...
The internal business processes of a company "our company" is not to go on and on about how bad our competitors are, but to discuss, critique or even criticize our internal flaws, weaknesses and failures. There are biz names for these things: Continuous Improvement, Total Quality...
Ever notice how you never say anything revalent?
The world of Judaism and western thought process: every single idea on earth is open season to dissect, to examine, to undress, to humiliate, to tear apart, to debate, to laugh and mock. Certain thoughts and ideas have special place reserved for the greatest humiliation and defeat. Thoughts like the resurrection, vicarious atonment for sin through faith, disbelief in the holocaust (called "denial" to fully insure anyone in this group is equal to someone denying gravity), non-support of homosexual nuptials, gun rights, etc.
Why or why or why is there absolutely not one single respected and wide known authority in all the western world promoting the idea that war is not good? Someone supporting G. Washington's views about staying out of other nation's business and staying neutral?
Just for kicks and giggles I read about half of a recent WAPO OP-ED piece. This was written by a pro Obama type alleged liberal. His view: it's OK for our dear wittle Baracky-poo to admit he has been error in his foreign policy, to repent, and turn around, and jump on the Bush-McCain-Lindsay Graham bandwagon, get some more American military boots on the ground, and kick some Muslim ass around the world.
Of every God-forsaken national politician, you'd be hard pressed to find a dozen who are against starting a fucking war any where in the world we can visit.
I thought the real enemy was John Boehner or Ted Cruz.
Mere tools in the Zino-occupied toolkit.
Stan Lee is their foreign policy advisor.
Nothing changed. U.S. wants to control the energy resources flowing through Syria. We turned against Assad as he was aligning more with Russia. This gambit is along the lines we don't want IS to have control of it and maybe Assad will appreciate a favor...defeating the enemy the U.S. unleased on him IS.
The true biased reporting is done by most of the mass media, the major networks which parrot the propaganda they are fed by the government and do not report the other side of the story which is factually more true. The media pretends to be unbiased but really is only the voice of government propaganda/lies since the advertisers that pay their bills have bought out the government and the media. Oil companies and their pals. Basically if you are only watching TV you have no clue what is going on and believe what the oligarchy in the U.S. wants you to think, even searching on the internet its difficult to eek your way to determining whats going on since the story lines keep getting dropped. Just remember its always about energy sources and where pipeling go when one digs for the truth. Stories after that about religions and terrorists are all covers and disinformation to confuse the sheeple by giving them fodder for their poor little brains to chew which has nothing to do with real food - truth.
Knowing how UK and US are closely tied here is Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador who speaks it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIQ8VVn8AJA#t=52
This is by far the strongest statement I have ever heard from an insider!
Agreed. And what Craig Murray said was just the tip of the iceberg.
The British political elites & Establishment are probably the most corrupt and ruthless criminals anywhere in the world.
As I've said a 1,000 times "Britain's system of govt is institutionally corrupt". It's had 800 years to develop and to refine & hide it from view to the point where few people can see it.
taking too much time, like asleeping masses... need serious cliff fall to provok the world class shtf up the fan totally jammed.
i won't have force to stay low profile & wait the opportunity for 20 years more.
why can't benji cannot nuke gaza or kiev nuke dombass so we can start the damn party for once...
even de dollarization from brics will not make fed/.gov move that much. just a scratch in the back i guess..
boring finally.
So we're trying to cobble together air bases and ground bases to deal with a rogue entity we developed. Why are we doing it when we have a "Gallant little Ally" right next door with the fourth largest air force in the world? Bombing from 30,000 feet should be just as safe as bombing Gaza civilians.This is an classic example of bloody US progressive policy where the progressives "embrace" the islamic world. In the new progressive regime everyone dances in the streets with the muslims singing kumbaya while unicorns shit skittles everywhere. Tra la la!
Remember the great Cairo speech? Almost immediately obozo had to go proclaim to the muslim world that he, the great Bill Ayers taught Marxist America-hating progressive muslim was going to mend relations with the murdering islamic snackbarian world. Obozo declared: "my job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy."
So what happened to the progressive embrace of the muslim world? What happens with any progressive policy?
They are crimes against humanity.
We are past the time where arrest is warranted.
Grimaldus