These Clowns Are Dragging Us Into War

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From  Raúl Ilargi Meijer of The Automatic Earth

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These Clowns Are Dragging Us Into War

In 8 weeks, on October 26, there are – supposed to be – parliamentary elections in Ukraine. What’s that going to look like? Who’s going to vote? In the presidential elections a few months ago, most of east Ukraine did not vote. How many different ways are there to define democracy and still remain credible?

In an interview today on Russian Channel 1, Vladimir Putin commented on the upcoming elections: “All the participants in the electoral race will want to show how cool they are; Everyone will want to show they are strongmen or strongwomen, and as the political struggle sharpens it is hard to expect anyone to seek a peaceful resolution and not a military one.” That would seem to be an accurate prediction.

The EU yesterday (in yet another definition of democracy) picked its new president. They chose Polish PM Donald Tusk, which may seem a bit strange since Tusk doesn’t speak a word of either English or French, and he comes from a nation that is not even in the Eurozone, yet he will now now get to chair meetings that concern the euro. But Tusk is a hawk on Russia, and therefore suspiciously convenient to the inner core of Washington and Brussels’ control apparatus. He’s said more bad and ugly things about Russia and Putin than just about anyone recently, and that’s saying something.

The US and EU have worked for years to see their desire to take over Ukraine come to fruition. They’ve come a long way, but they wanted Crimea and the Donbass region most of all, and those they still don’t have. Still, they’ve so far shown themselves more than willing to assist first in killing thousands of eastern Ukrainians to get what they want, and now they are prepared to start a war over it.

The well-prepared, built-up step by step, storyline in the western press is the threat of Russia’s expansionary drift. Hence this Reuters piece:

Polish President Warns Germany Of Putin’s ‘Empire’ Ambitions

Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski said that Vladimir Putin is trying to build a new Russian empire for Moscow and that the region now had to choose whether it wanted “a Cossack Europe or a democratic one”. “Russia has carried out an invasion in Ukraine,” the Polish head of state told German public radio. Komorowski said Putin was quite open about his ambitions to “rebuild the empire”. The Polish president is an ally of Prime Minister Donald Tusk. “I hope Germans are sufficiently mindful of what a Soviet empire meant for Europe,” Komorowski told Deutschlandradio Kultur and Deutschlandfunk, warning against any reprise of the pre-World War Two “appeasement policy of yielding to Hitler”.

That’s the kind of thing where I go: Huh? Did I see that right? You try to scare the Germans by referring to a Russia that by now has been history for almost 25 years, a Russia that was instrumental in saving Europe from the Third Reich and lost 20-30 million people in the process, by reminding them of an 80-year old policy of appeasement to Hitler? The Germans?

When we look at what has actually happened over the past decade, and what we can prove when it comes to expansion drift, that is without a doubt a painfully hollow story. Since what we actually do know, what is not mere conjecture, is that it has instead been the west, through NATO, that has been in expansion mood.

Despite solid agreements not to move NATO’s borders eastward, the alliance has done nothing but move east, and is now planning to put even more troops and new army bases right on Russia’s doorstep. The narrative to justify this NATO expansion that breaches those former agreements, which we can see time and again, is that Russia is moving west, for which there is no proof, only accusations, and that NATO territory is inviolable, but Ukraine is not a NATO member.

No NATO territory is under threat of being violated, other than inside the narrative. Moreover, while voices in Europe increasingly claim that the threat to Ukraine is a threat to Europe (i.e. the EU), Ukraine is no more an EU member than it is a NATO member. Brussels seems to want it to be, but that’s where the narrative ends. So it’s simply being changed on the fly and has now become: “Ukraine is fighting a war on behalf of all Europe”, according Lithuanian leader Dalia Grybauskaite.

Which is where I think: really, Ukraine has killed over 2000 of its own citizens ‘on behalf of Europe’?

The entire conflict could be solved in a heartbeat if Kiev would simply tell the Donbass leadership that they can be autonomous. But that’s not what Poroshenko wants, or Yatsenyuk, and certainly not Washington and Brussels. Because the Donbass is by far the richest region in Ukraine. Which however happens to be home to people who don’t want to be ruled by the present Kiev leadership. Well, so you kill a bunch of them and instill fear in the rest, right?

Putin had something to say about that too, first in Agence France Presse’s version of his Channel 1 interview:

Putin Urges Ukraine ‘Statehood’ Talks

Russian President Vladimir Putin today sharply raised the stakes in the Ukraine conflict by calling for the first time for statehood to be considered for the restive east of the former Soviet state. Mr Putin’s defiant remarks came just hours after the EU gave Moscow – which the bloc accuses of direct involvement in the insurgency – a week to change course or face new sanctions. “We need to immediately begin substantive talks… on questions of the political organisation of society and statehood in southeastern Ukraine … ”

And then the way RT reported it:

Putin: Impossible To Say When Political Crisis In Ukraine Will End

The devastated infrastructure of the southeast requires full repair otherwise people might just freeze to death, he said. “It looks as if only Russia cares about that. The first most essential condition is to stop combat operations and begin reconstruction of the infrastructure, replenish inventories, do the necessary repairs and scheduled maintenance to be ready for the cold season.” [..]


Russian President Vladimir Putin has called on Kiev to start substantial talks on deescalating the crisis in eastern Ukraine. He added that it’s an illusion to expect that the rebels would calmly watch their homes being destroyed. “We have agreed on a plan, so its realization must be pursued,” Putin told Channel 1 TV, adding that the Ukrainian government “must immediately start substantial talks – not a technical discussion – on the political organization of society and the state in southeast Ukraine so that the interests of people who live there are protected.” The plan, according to Russia’s leader, puts negotiations at the center of the peace process.[..]


Commenting on the new batch of sanctions against Russia threatened by western countries, Putin advised his counterparts to think again about what they are advocating. “What are the so-called European values then? Support for an armed coup, suppression of opponents with armed forces – so these are ‘European values’? I believe our colleagues should be reminded of their own ideals … ”

In the meantime, the rumors and allegations don’t just continue, they get stronger. Evidence hasn’t been a factor is this game for a long time, and it is not now. Just today, I’ve seen 2 Russian ladies who say 100 Russian troops died in a battle earlier this month, Kiev claiming that Russian tanks ‘flattened’ an entire village, and Ukraine soldiers saying their comrades who were given safe passage after being trapped, were shot at.

It just never stops, or so it seems. We’ve been subject so far to a tsunami of allegations and accusations, and 99%+ of them have come with zero evidence. But now we risk being pulled into a outright war despite the lack of evidence. Really, it’s come to this: we’re asking for just one piece of evidence for all the accusations we’ve been made party to. Just the one!

Essentially, the western leadership is saying that if the ‘Donbass rebels’, and Russia, won’t let the Ukraine army do just what it wants in east Ukraine, there will be war. But it’s not our leaders who are going to be the boots on the ground. And because Obama has pledged no US military involvement in Ukraine – though CIA, Blackwater and who knows who else, are present anyway -, it will have to be European boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Perhaps prior to the official war declaration our politicians and media can tell us where the remains of the BUK rocket are that’s alleged to have downed MH17, where the contents are of the black boxes, and where the Air Traffic Control conversations with the pilots are which were allegedly confiscated by the Ukraine secret service on July 17.

It’s perhaps hard to remember due to the misinformation tsunami, but the MH17 has been a major driver of the western public’s anger vs Russia, and their acceptance of sanctions and other decisions, and now the threat of war. While it still may just as well not have been the Donbass rebels who shot that plane, but the Ukraine army, or Blackwater or the CIA. We simply don’t know.

The west says that the war in east Ukraine is caused by Russia’s support for the rebels. Just like the overriding narrative today is that the west reacts to what Russia does, while in reality it’s the other way around.

The entire Ukraine conflict could be resolved tomorrow morning if Kiev, and its western support, would pledge to stop waging war on the Donbass. And give it a separate status, either within Ukraine or in a separate state. After half a year+ of warfare, how else could you resolve this crisis? Only through more bloodshed, that’s how.

But our western leadership is simply too trigger happy for comfort. Based on only hints and allegations. There’s a NATO conference in Wales this week; Obama, Merkel, they’ll all be there. I suggest you just watch and listen what comes out of that. It won’t be pretty. Peace will not be a commonly used term there. While for all of us, and all the civilians in the Donbass, that’s all we want.

But these clowns are dragging us into war. And yes, maybe it would be a good idea for you to tell them that you don’t want them to. Before your kids, or their friends, their neighbors, start dying in some far away ugly theater they should never have been part of.

Is peace impossible in Ukraine today? No. Not at all. But it is as long as the west keeps its hopes for conquering the Donbass alive. It should have known that from the start, and perhaps it did, and started this crusade anyway, because the grand prize it’s after is Russia itself. Over our dead bodies.

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roadhazard's picture

There are enough clowns to go around no matter where you look.

0b1knob's picture

Just let Hitler (er I mean Putin) have Czechoslovakia (errr I mean eastern Ukraine) and we will have peace in out time (ahhh....I mean a return to status quo)

strannick's picture

NWO will prevail over all our dead bodies, and be given the keys to Satan's charboiled holocaustic kingdom

Rubicon's picture

I stopped reading when it said Tusk doesnt speak English. Tosh.

X.inf.capt's picture


i dont want to see another war...

ive just gotten over remembering all those knocked out T-72's and BMP's in, i still remember the smell...those things caught fire real easy, this is going to SUCK!

MalteseFalcon's picture

OK, if they aren't buying Putin as Hitler and the appeasement angle. 

How about "if Ukraine falls, then the dominoes will fall all the way to Paris and maybe further?"  No? 

How about "remember MH17 to war with Russia!".  What's that?  Our side shot it down?  OK, OK.

Uh, how about "Russia has historically been a expansionist power and we must stop unchecked aggression!".  No? 

Maybe "babies thrown out of incubators"? 

"The Ukraine is America's closest and oldest ally!"? 

"Ukraine is the only democracy in Europe west of Moldova!"?

How about if the Russians bombed some children?  I think we have footage of Ukrainians doing it.  Who could tell the difference?

Maybe Russians as pedophiles?  Show some guys with masks on, say it was Putin.  Guess that wouldn't play well with some of our allies right now. 

I like Putin as the new Hitler.  Get rid of the nuclear sunglasses and put a mustache on him.

philipat's picture

And we now learn, not from the MSM, of course, that the findings of the investigation into the downing of MH017 are subject to an NDA. So now we have a classified/confidential civil aircrash investigation. Another first for freedom and democracy......

disabledvet's picture

I find it interesting that no rationale is being given.  "Its all Poopie Pant's fault!"


I mean can give a dozen....phuck reasons...RATIONALES for "standing up to Pootie Pie.". Nay, veerily...HE CALLED ME A BAD NAME!

As far as the 2000 dead as Arnold Schwarzenegger famously said in the movie True Lies "they were all very bad!"


"War in the Bloodlands" is like Christ in Christianity....happens all the time and is always...well, bloody!

This much I can say:  "this will be new to the Americans.". And whoever follows us.  "Who is the fool? The fool? Or the fool that follows him?"

We shall see...

Raymond K Hessel's picture




Are Russians leaving empty vodka bottles strewn about in the desert as they sneak into America?


Oh, that's right.  ISIS is leaving prayer rugs behind in the desert as they sneak into America.

So, guess what?

I don't give a fuck about Putin.  I give a fuck about ISIS.  That Sterling Archer character can wreak havoc so I say let the Germans and French fight Russia and we'll fight Mexico. 

Elvis the Pelvis's picture

How exactly are we being dragged into war?  No one is suggesting boots on the ground.  No one wants airstrikes.  Hell, we aren't even giving weapons or training to the Ukranians.  This is more hyperbole.

jeff montanye's picture

the best i have read on the series of coups that link the assassination of jfk to 9-11 (over a very circuitous path, i must say) and on to isis, the ukraine and today:


the best.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

Putting Poppy Bush at the top of the photo tree is thinking way too small.


All Risk No Reward's picture

Exactly.  The Bushes are employees.  Granted, high level employees.

gallistic's picture

Holy shit!

Elvis the Pelvis, you did not peddle your stupid blog!

Are you feeling alright?



edit- My bad, I routinely ignore your posts, and I wrote before noticing that you did in fact, link to your shitty "angry sinner" blog. The lack of the word "bitchez" must have thrown me off...

TahoeBilly2012's picture

Only one party would go all the way to destroying Ukraine...the Jews. Dumbshits will follow these killers ambitions all the way, proven by the Jew S of A.

Excursionist's picture

I'd argue Putin's party of one would do the same.

This blog post is allegedly submitted by Raúl Ilargi Meijer of The Automatic Earth  Why is it that these ZH pro-Russia posts from (supposedly) third parties have such similar writing styles?

I appreciate being fed the Russians' view, propaganda, etc., when reading such content.  I really do.  No sarcasm when I write this.  But why not own up to it?

El Vaquero's picture

Because when you look at the actual evidence, we're the bad guys in this.  We were in there helping to destabilize Ukraine, and we were doing so to get to Russia.  Putin could be the dirtiest sonofabitch to walk the planet in decades - a new Stalin - but that does not excuse our behavior.  While, IMO, we would not have been able to destabilize Ukraine without existing problems in the country that meant that it was near the precipice to begin with, that does not mitigate our involvement.  I'm particularly pissed off about this because I can name a target for Russian ICBMs/SLBMs that is within 20 miles of me as the crow flies.  We have retards playing a game that will suck the paint off of MY house and give ME a permanent orange afro.  Well, not at that distance, but considering that the target has a shitload of nukes in it and is way underground, meaning probable ground burst, I have to really worry about what direction the wind is blowing.


And yes, I have thought about egress routes and destinations.  Some of the routes would make your butthole suck up seat cover, but there would be no traffic.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

El Vaquero nails it:

Because when you look at the actual evidence, we're the bad guys in this.

Bingo! That's the sum total of what matters. All it takes to understand that is the ability to tell the difference between right and wrong and the willingness to open one's eyes to what has been happening in the Ukraine.

Admittedly, that's a tall task for many Americans.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

True that - as ridiculous as it sounds, all one needs to do these days is watch the narrative and know that the truth is somewhere closer to 180° out.

Excursionist's picture

References to Dan Aykroyd lines are always appreciated.

But my observation has absolutely nothing to do with who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  It's about one side not owning up to the opinions, propaganda, views, etc. they're circulating.

If the Russians are the good guys in this situation... the innocent party being grievously injured, why hide behind the cloak of blog posts like the one cited here?

flapdoodle's picture

Its a real bitch to have to wage war without air support, aint it? Not like frying ragheads from drones via infrared...

StormShadow's picture

A little OT but not really. Can't find any supporting info as to why, but Sinai and Mali just became off limits for US commercial flights per FDC NOTAMs. Warn of unrest including rocket propelled grenades. Can't seem to copy and paste them for some reason.

StormShadow's picture

Here we go, you can follow the links on FAA's website

I'm just wondering what new intel spurred these

Escrava Isaura's picture


return to status quo?

What are you talking about?

BuddyEffed's picture

Someday, one of these crisis will trigger some world leaders publicly getting behind the economic conclusions found in reports that seriously consider resource constraints and resource depletions.

David Korowicz has produced some interesting materials, and so has Tullet Prebon, among others.

Anybody else got links relative in that area to share, besides the two below?  Heinberg, Tverberg, and Martenson/Crash Course are all relative too.

Escrava Isaura's picture


Please, go away.

Don't spoil the paranoia!

You're talking to much sense about resources. Who cares about these things?

BuddyEffed's picture

Somebody has got to try to get TPTB to see the common sense in things.  Push coming to shove is no longer profitable.  And risking it between players that could EMP or worse to each other, and all the progress and social gains of the last 3 centuries could say bye bye.  And even if you run with the megayacht crowd, that's gonna be a big downer and leave a mark.  If they aren't more careful, we might all find ourselves trying to live just like we were in the 1700s.   Not many could do that.  Most of humanity is sissyfied, and not many have any appropriate skills, mindset, of physical ability.  And even the megayacht crowd under the best of scenarios might only get one or two generations a leg up before entropy gets them likely in the thick of things along with anyone left with no particular advantage, except for those with quick wits, good health, physical prowess, and good reflexes.

BeansMcGreens's picture

Just think of all the people who rely on some sort of medication each day. Have read just recently that over fifty percent of US adults have a medical problem where some sort of medicine is taken every day. A months supply of percription drugs and that is it. Who will be around to bury all the dead. And most would not even know how to use a shovel.

BuddyEffed's picture

I bet a lot of that medicine is insulin for diabetes associated with weight issues and improper diet.

Anyone over 50  or so (even those in good shape) who have to suddenly be on their feet all day, doing a modern version of hunting and gathering wil find it tough to weather that storm.

BeansMcGreens's picture

Appreciate the sites you listed. The last one was very good and have saved to share.

GrandPaFred's picture

it's called 'motive' isn't it.... 

Escrava Isaura's picture


You should be in bed, by now.

But, let me tell you a secret, but don't tell it to grandma, because she's gonna call you crazy, Marxist, socialist, Keynesian, or some other adjective that she has no clue about, but which will make her fell important and knowledgeable.

Also, you don’t want to give her the impression that she is not a serious person!

This war is not about Ukraine.

This war is because the world is about to dump the dollars and the next financial Ponzi scheme is not in America, but within the BRIC’s.

And it will, most likely, be backed by some gold weight.

Now, go nighty-night.

Jambo Mambo Bill's picture

Hi EI,

You know, these latest advances of the NWO makes me think... that in a near future, the US/West Military complex, after the "democratisation" of China and Russia by force or coercion (of course if they can pull it off), and after the NorthAUnion, will turn its attention towards the South, its guaranteed IMO.

The ‘WEST’ has no respect whatsoever for the LATIN World, for example notice how they treated Mr Morales over Europe not long ago…

You know, the rest of Colombo’s continent, aka Latinos, because they are really not part of term AMERICA, those folks down south, will have to be completely pacified and democratised, but PROPERLY, for good, and their ‘universal’ resources will have to be… secured, as part of this process, of course to the next (West) generations, also for the good of all (West) humanity! That means that the AMAZON, at some stage will no longer be controlled by Brazil or their smaller neighbours for example! Don’t believe? Watch the freaking out you people !

Today, folks have the total control of the mass media of the LATINAs, channels like GLOBO, have been brainwashing Brazilians for decades, and doing so better by the day. Latinos are trained daily to think that the US and its junk culture is the cream of the top, the reference where all have to follow, and this process limits generations of locals to think outside of the box, except when comes down to carnival allegories. The control is so great these days, that for what I understand 90%+ of material on those channels is ‘AMERICANISED’, most of the times direct US affairs actually, like these Latin lands were belonging to the master US already, officially.

Latin oligarchs and corrupt politicians in the other hand, are selling their own population’s independent ability to rise up for themselves, Latinos are aggressively being dumbed down and brainwashed daily, by the US crap media, junk GMO food and vaccines.

What a surprise it will be, when one day the North Super hero friends, will come down like a hawk, to grab and take charge of the Latinos resources, for good…for example internationalizing Amazon and Pantanal areas… locals will be traumatised and unable to defend their lands when ‘HE MAN’ itself is coming to claim ownership of the stuff. Internationalisation of resources will be the next phase of decades US/NWO/West colonisation of the LATINAs, and it will be all legal under the UN=NWO.

It’s clear that NOTHING and NO ONE will prevent that, as most of the LATINAs prefer carnival, football, novella, barsinho, or coca leaves, instead real progress and national interest policies. They are killing decades of time that should be used to bring their cultures up to standards, and to secure and modernise their infrastructure and security services, this blunder is happening now and future generation will never forgive what is happening, if of course, there are able to grasp the facts.

matrix2012's picture

@ Jambo Mambo Bill


It's soooo sad to read on your narration....the situation and total controls of TV networks and mass media in the Latina lands esp. in the Brazil, are similar to what i experience in my country...


"Today, folks have the total control of the mass media of the LATINAs, channels like GLOBO, have been brainwashing Brazilians for decades, and doing so better by the day. Latinos are trained daily to think that the US and its junk culture is the cream of the top, the reference where all have to follow, and this process limits generations of locals to think outside of the box..."


Too bad the earlier two-term reign of Lula govt couldn't fix these TV network and media control by the alien infiltrants!!

Escrava Isaura's picture


You last paragraph (Aliens Infiltrants) tells us that we cannot take your post very seriously.


Jambo Mambo Bill

Obvious that you have first-hand experience in South America. Good for you!

With all the irreversible consequences of human stupidity that we will be facing, South America, especially Paraguay, looks like it will be the least badly affected area, I believe. Time will tell.

Mambo Bill, this lifestyle that we have and, that the massmedia is desperately trying to keep going, as you point it up, is coming to a very ugly end. Not looking forward to face all the scarcities.

You’re right about Western imperialism (US/NWO/West colonization, or, whatever you want to call it) never had much respect for South America, unless, they were getting something back.

In respect that South Americans are doing nothing, I disagree with you. The problem is who to trust.

If you see USAID, that’s a NO NO! But, when you see Paul Farmer's organization, you embrace it.

When you see NGO’s, watch out!

The great thing about South America control in keeping its resources, is that, the US has no more military bases there. US is trying to reestablish a base in Chile. But, unsuccessfully.

Now, agree that US junk culture (most of Hollywood and TV) propaganda are bad. But, that’s not the worse. Not the most dangerous.

The dangerous in South America are military coups, backed by US, to overthrow democratic elected leaders. When South Americans military leaders, either embraced by the propaganda and/or corruption, splits.

Anyway, as oil becomes more and more scarce, the ability to invade and have boots on the ground will become impossible, and too costly. So, no other continent will be able to invade South America.

So make sure you keep your resources.

And exchange those for gold? 

Thanks, but no thanks!


matrix2012's picture

Escrava Isaura, it's a good post.

About the "Aliens Infiltrants", well, it's just a "lazy term" to refer to the infiltrations by the external power & interests, either directly or through their local agents to control the TV networks and printed media to advance their talking points and point of views of the targeted audiences. Too bad the BRA govt allows this strategic media control in the few questionable hands to advance their bad influences.


Well, about the "common" coup d'état practices in Latin America, one should read the article by STEVE KANGAS at below.

The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA. CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. ...continued
matrix2012's picture

First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator.

The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder. . [...] -- A Timeline of CIA Atrocities | By STEVE KANGAS
Kirk2NCC1701's picture

The Polish leadership (Pres. Komorowski) is not helping the image/reputation of polish people not being "the smartest" people around.

Q: Was is Russia who attacked France?  Or attacked Germany?  Did they start WW1 or WW2?  Or any wars in Mideast, Far East, Africa, Caribbean or Pacific?  Did they set off nukes or fire-bomb entire cities?

FUCK OFF KOMOROWSKI, YOU DUMB FUCKING POLACK!  And I use the pejorative term "Polack" -- that I would almost never use -- correctly and deservedly in his case.

Terminus C's picture

One could make a very credible argument that the Russians and French were critical causes of WWI.  After that... not so much.

earnulf's picture

Poor Poor Ruskies, NOT.    Forgot your basic history didn't ya, "White" Russia was fighting Germany in WW1 until the Communist revolution which caused them to focus more on their shit at home than Imperial Ambitions.    The Communists then slaughtered the Imperialists and anyone else who got in their way, sorta like ISIS.

In WWII, COMMUNIST Russia signs a pact with Germany to divide Poland between them.   Yep, Stain and Hitler were bosum buddies until Hitler bit Stalin's hand.    And we won't discuss the atrocities the communists carried out in Eastern Europe following the Allied Victory, or the Russian Land Grab in the pacific, waiting until Japan was finished to declare war (1 week before Japan asked for a ceasefire and two days after Hiroshima).

Shall we talk nuclear missiles in Cuba or the unrest in Angola?   Maybe the Russians haven't been as busy as us, but they have had their fingers in the pie too.    Not to mention the secret police making sure everyone toed the party line or else they won a free trip to Sunny Siberia!    Poland has every reason to be uneasy, especially with a nuclear powered adversary gobbling up territory and formenting unrest in Moldavia and Ukraine.    And what part of Russian Tanks fighting Ukranian Paratroopers in Eastern Ukraine did you not understand?

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

Go back to your comic books and television.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Ear, you didnd't mentiont he US partnering with "Uncle Joe."

Rememeber "Uncle Joe?"

The Russian history is horrible - the mass deaths are second only to the Debt Money Monopoly (they murder indirectly through inextinguishable debt leading to starvation and instigating nation states to fight wars) and Mao.


The Ukraine has Russia's only warm water port that is available 12 months a year.

Putin would be a fool to let the Banksters steal Russia's crucial Eastern Ukraine assets.

Bangin7GramRocks's picture

WAR! Good god y'all. What is it good for; absolutely nothing! Say it again.

Anunnaki's picture

Praise Jah for the wisdom of Elaine Benes

trulz4lulz's picture

It aint nothin' but a heartache! War! HUH! What is it good for? Absolutly nothing!

benb's picture

The CIA /State Dept. /Soros (Front for Rothschild) gang pumped $5 billion in to destabilize the region.  Let the U.S. Military sworn to protect us arrest George Soros as an enemy combatant under the Military Commissions Act. And why not haul the CFR in as well. The top 100 members are good to go for subversion, high treason, and mass murder.


Escrava Isaura's picture


"CIA /State Dept. /Soros (Front for Rothschild) gang pumped $5 billion in to destabilize the region."

You're the man!