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What It's All About: Russia, China Begin Construction Of World's Largest Gas Pipeline
If after months of Eurasian axis formation, one still hasn't realized why in the grand game over Ukraine supremacy - not to mention superpower geopolitics - Europe, and the West, has zero leverage, while Russia has all the trump cards, then today's latest development in Chinese-Russian cooperation should make it abundantly clear.
Overnight, following a grand ceremony in the Siberian city of Yakutsk, Russia and China officially began the construction of a new gas pipeline linking the countries. The bottom line to Russia - nearly half a trillion after China's CNPC agreed to buy $400bn in gas from Russia's Gazprom back in May. In return, Russia will ship 38 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas annually over a period of 30 years. The 3,968 km pipeline linking gas fields in eastern Siberia to China will be the world's largest fuel network in the world.
As BBC reports, "the deal will lessen Russia's dependence on European buyers, who have imposed economic sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine." That is not news and has been known for months ever since the long-anticipated Holy Grail deal was signed in May. More importantly, as Zero Hedge reported last week, one awaits as the invoices become increasingly less denominated in USD, and more in CNY or RUB. Most importantly, and confirming the significance of Russia's pivot away from Europe, which ultimately can have Qatar's gas it so very desires, irrelevant how many thousands of innocent people have to die, the construction ceremony was attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese Vice-Premier Zhang Gaoli.
China will start work on the construction of its side of the pipeline in the first half of 2015, Mr Zhang said.
The first gas will be pumped from Siberia to north-east China in early 2019.
Over the past 10 years, China has used other gas suppliers. Turkmenistan is now China's largest foreign gas supplier. Last year, it started importing piped natural gas from Myanmar.
Increasingly it appears that China will defer to Russia when it comes to cementing bilateral commodity deals, especially if it means further distancing both sides from what has emerged as a natural foe to both aspirational nations: the United States.
Here is what Putin had to say about the latest gas pipeline, soon to be the world's largest, during the groundbreaking ceremony outside the city of Yakutsh, via RT: "The new gas branch will significantly strengthen the economic cooperation with countries in the Asia-Pacific region and above all - our key partner China."
“Once we create a gas pipeline network here in the Far East and Siberia, we will be able to connect European pipeline system to the East. And this, in terms of export opportunities and expanding Russia’s ‘gasification’, is very beneficial. Depending on the situation in world markets, we can more effectively implement gas flows- either more to the West or to the East,” Putin told students at North-Eastern Federal University earlier on Monday.
More:
Both President Putin and Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli signed the freshly-welded pipeline in a time-honored Russian tradition. The 'Power of Siberia' was welded together by workers from Chayanda gas field, overseen by CEO Aleksey Miller.
"Gazprom is always a reliable supplier of gas to its customers - which also applies to the ‘Power of Siberia," Miller said.
The 3,968 km pipeline linking gas fields in eastern Siberia to China will be the world's largest fuel network in the world. Both Putin and Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli have called the project the world’s largest construction project, as investment from both countries will be more than $70 billion.
“The gas pipeline ‘Power of Siberia’ will increase energy security and ensure Russia’s ability to fulfill export obligations,” Putin said in the opening remarks.
Starting in 2019, Power of Siberia will pump gas from Siberia to China’s populous northeast region as well as to Russia’s Far East. The Chinese side will start the construction of its part of the pipeline in the first half of 2015, the Vice Premier of China said.
Last year, China consumed about 170 billion cubic meters of natural gas and expects to consume 420 billion cubic meters per year by 2020. Europe still remains Russia’s largest energy market, buying more than 160 billion meters of Russian natural gas in 2013.
So while the west is no longer able to find any growth opportunities, with the marginal free cash flow dollar increasingly going in stock buybacks, Russia has no such problems: running from the Chayanda gas field in the Republic of Yakutia, the cost of construction is estimated at more than $20 billion (770 billion rubles), which includes other investment in the region of $7.5 billion (283 billion rubles). Russia’s largest steel pipeline manufacturer, TMK, will provide materials for the project.
The gas pipeline will become a common transit center for gas production centers in the Yakutia and Irkutsk regions.
The first stage of the project will be to transport gas from the Chayanda deposit in Yakutia and connect to the town of Blagoveshchensk on the Chinese border. The 968 km pipeline should be completed by 2018.
The Chayanda field, which will begin production in 2015, is estimated to have reserves of 1.2 trillion cubic meters in gas and 93 million tons of liquid hydrocarbons. Each year the field is expected to produce up to 25 billion cubic meters of gas and at least 1.5 million tons of oil.
Putin also said that China can become a shareholder in the Vankor oil and gas fields in the Krasnoyarsk region in Eastern Siberia. China will enter into a strategic relationship with Rosneft, Russia's largest oil company, which owns the field.
But, Obama keeps repeating Russia is isolated by the entire world... Is he once again simply, gasp, lying?
To summarize all of the above: while Europe will continue to depend on Russia for its gas imports indefinitely, Russia will no longer depend on Europe for its experts.
Finally, a video of today's festivities if only for Russia, not so much the countries which are "isolating" it...
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Glad you are posting again. You've been missed.
Soon, europe will be begging for gas if china keeps growing.
How's that windmill stuff working out boys?!?
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US/NATO/EU are tilting at them menacingly.
Germany produces 30% of its energy requirement using renewable energy resources. Not bad considering Germany's industry.
And it costs 3 times as much! And I thought the Germans were smart.. Oh well...
Alliances change, governments fall, currencies come and go.
The wind? It'll still be around.
Germany dropped 95% of its' funding of green energy.. It is a scam.
"In essence, this is a war between the big companies to control the energy deposits. The biggest barrier now are the state-controlled giants in Russia and China and neoliberalism is trying to conquer these countries. The Western companies have declared war against companies like Gazprom, as they seek to control all the energy deposits, but in this case things are not so easy. The neoliberal model that opens the road for the Western capital, has to face now, two superpowers."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/03/the-closed-system-of-biggest-...
They should get working on the biggest gas chamber and wake the zioqueers up.
Putin: Niagara Falls! (the $) slowly I turned...step by step...inch by inch
Putin: I was KILLED at the Susquehanna Hat Company!
When democrats will remove Obama from power, you'll ask me how I knew that.
http://therightscoop.com/nbc-reporter-says-military-officials-are-apople...
Military is already in open revolt. Implosion coming.
Watch out.............................. (assuming golfing continues)
That's a laugh. He's fine as long as he keeps the war witches around. Rice, Nuland, Power, Jarrett, etc.
I never knew that golf could age a man so much...
Which wars? He has vetoed all wars thus far
Nuland is his enemy.
>>ekm
Please tell me once again, who's the President? Who's the assistant there,,,,in the Land of Free?
"Reporter Richard Engel highlights Obama’s “reluctance” to engage with the threat of ISIS and even left-wing cheerleader Andrea Mitchell can’t help but admit the same."
Either they are clueless or are merely cheerleading whores...
Obama has been cleaning up neocons since day 1. That's why Senate refused Susan Rice and imposed John Kerry on him.
Neocons went into hiding, up until recently
If you want to clean up NeoCons there are easy and effective ways to do that. Launching a new investigation into what actually happened on 9/11 would be a great place to start. Examining the historic and current links between the CIA, MI6, Mossad, GCC and ALL Islamic terror organizations would be another.
Like George Bush said... Barry is either with them or against them.
If he were against them he'd either never have been elected President or would be dead by now.
No, I don't want to clean up neocons.
I actually think that neocons should be allowed back into power and replace bank lobby which by cleaning them up is destroying America and world trade
ekm1,
Do you think that the neocons will take out the bank lobby if they are put back in power? Or just replace it with their guys?
Just ask'n
I would like a definition of a neocon. I think they are ficticious much like the Tea Party characterizations are ficticious. They sort of become anything that is convenient to the argument you already want to make...a sort of straw man.
If you say there are people who favor the use of force or war in most situations, okay. I get that. They are not all on one side of the aisle. Traditionally, neocons seemed to be the war branch of the Republican party but now it seems that are anyone who might favor the use of force at any time, maybe even anyone who favors a strong military, which is not the same thing.
Neocons = Lobby which wants to control oil flow and energy flow worldwide in order to benefit USA and Western world
Well, the term originally stood for "Neo" or "New" conservative. The original definition I understood was that they were actually big government conservatives (which is an oxymoron). Frankly they were pretty much like Democrats but they favored a large war machine that should be used occasionally.
Now, they seem to be more vague.
Neocon = Republican warmongerer. Subsidies courtesy of the MIC, banks, whoever makes money out of wars.
Liberal interventionist = Democrat warmongerer. Subsidies courtesy of the MIC, banks, whoever makes money out of wars.
Same garbage in different packages.
Replace bank lobby guys controlling the Fed with their own guys
Put the crack pipe down. The Neocons and Zionists are still firmly in control.
Nothing has incentivized radical Muslims more than Obama's election and ensuing limp Middle East policies. (Or is that an oxymoron?) They love the guy.
it's mutual
ekm1
please
please
get your rabbis to stop raping young boys in talmudic saunas.
it is getting so bad that even mossad run jew rupert murdoch is getting vices tv show crews to make shows about it already
Whoa its true. Here is a link to that disgusting vile crap.
http://topconservativenews.com/2014/07/vice-magazine-calls-nyc-orthodox-...
A group of Orthodox Jews were recently kicked out of Guatemala.
Bunch of racists. Of course, when asked their reason, they said they were offended that the Orthodox Jews would not GREET them, nor make as much physical contact as shaking hands with the locals! And this was after said group of Orthodox Jews were kicked out of Canada, on allegations of child abuse... Of course you will have to read 10 versions of the same news story to learn all this...
But bottom line, we're supposed to take in ALL those Guatemalan children....not kick them out as they've done the Jews. What hypocrisy.
Reading that, they are destroying thier own children and families.
No wonder they are so crazy. Remember that Ultra Jew in NY who kidnapped that
kid and molested him then cut him up and put him in the fridge?
They are totally cutting the mothers OUT. These women should refuse to marry them.
Doom onto these savages, they will be destroyed as they have destroyed.
Obama has been cleaning up neocons then he himself turned into one! There, I fixed it for ya.
Never. Obama hates neocons because bank lobby hates neocons.
Obama is banklobby's man.
You have lost me here ekm,
Neocons love war
Bankers love war
But bankers hate neocons?
Can you clarify your perspective?
Almost nobody loves war.
This is neocons, military trying to control oil flow and bank lobby trying to NOT collapse under the derivatives.
Bank lobby has been cutting military spending via control of congress and white house and cleaned up neocosn.
In the meantime, they have given to themselves $4 trillion via Quantitative Easing.
Bankers have no need for war as long as they control the Fed.
What horseshit. Central Banks LOVE war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9lS5k7H5M
Central banks worldwide are just a bunch academics who collect salaries and fees for speeches
Nobody cares
Adam Lebor would disagree I gues:
http://eichikawa.com/2013/09/the-bank-for-international-settlements-who-...
Whoever has military backing ends up ruling.
Nothing is more powerful than a loaded gun pointed at one's head
Kerry has gone from
"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
to
"You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pre-text."
This, from the guy who voted for the Iraq War (before he was against it, of course). So, him or Rice or Clinton doesn't ultimately matter.
I think all appointees at this level are replaced by pod people. The transformations are instantaneous and complete. John McCain is another example. To go from someone who was decent to completely off his f**kin' rocker.
A black president. A black Attorney General. A black Secretary of State.
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton; Old times there are not forgotten. Look away look away etc.
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...or both.
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...and the war fairies McCain and Graham.
ekm1 - You are definetly an outlier in some observations, i believe its always wise to keep an open mind to how these events unfold so your comments are always worth considering.
Off topic, its funny how i read this, while my wife is watching Kardashians.....worlds apart but a useful balance for my kid!
I wish the awakenining of the masses would gather pace to see the fraud and corruption ongoing around the world, sometimes i think they wouldnt know it if it smacked them square in the jaw.
i continue to hope.
Civilization is by definition Rule of Elite.
People choose elite to rule over them so they don't have to worry and think much.
So, no hope there, sir, sorry.
I"m afraid ekm1 is right on this one.
On average people are plain stupid and just not interested, they don't differ much from animals, mainly looking for instant satisfaction for their material and sexual needs. They don't spend much time thinking or learning.
Which means: NO HOPE, NONE!
So elites will rule, which is not bad in itself, if only they would be honest and fair...
Jim Willie - X mercs captured.
He has good sources and draws wrong conclusions by wrongly interpreting the information his sources provide him
When Putin strikes a deal with Japan and South Korea for gas, the US will lose Asia for generations.
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That's a pretty optimistic assessment (the part about the US being around for generations, that is).
It's begun.
I think this is why Putin forgave a lot of that North Korean debt a while back. That, and because Russia will never get it back anyways so when the current "Kim" gives you lemons, make lemonade.
The Chinese and Russians will probably build a pipeline right through China. That, or Russia building up LNG terminals on the Pacific. Or Both.
Putin also has a bargaining chip with the Japanese, the Northern Territories. The Japanese want them back, the Russians might be willing to deal with a Japan that is not a US puppet. Same for the Chinese as concerns the Sendaku Islands.
"the Russians might be willing to deal with a Japan that is not a US puppet. "
Haven't you noticed by now Russia cuts deals with absolutely everybody who's willing to trade? Exxon Mobil is even currently drilling the arctic for oil with them in a joint US-Russian venture...
Russia won't deal with those islands as long as US troops are in Japan en masse. Same for the Chinese and North Korea. Same for Ukraine. Neither will allow US troops on their borders.
today's theme song
Submission by Dust to Dust
Everything is fine as long as Caterpillar and Komatsu heavy bulldozers are used while laying the pipeline.
ha ha ha: "while Europe will continue to depend on Russia for its gas imports indefinitely"
Ou poor poor russian liars :)
http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-says-ready-to-supply-natural-gas-to-eu...
http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/iran-plans-to-increase-gas-exports-to-europe/
And you silly Putin regime trolls - don't get so excited about that Putins gases deal
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-russia-china-gas-deal-400-billio...
Sveiks, Viedoklis:
Please quit calling people you disagree with trolls. You do that a lot. It's a boring cliche. Really tiresome.
Your links are to articles from May. three months old. Also, the articles don't reinforce your point. Two were about an Iranian media gambit that went nowhere, and the third was a highly speculative article on the Russia-China gas agreement that began by stipulating that not all the details were available, and concluded by suspecting some vague future friction might be possible.
Easy fix: apply the western methodology of syrian case, to Iran... Unfortunately I find it a very probable scenario.
And how'z Iran gonna transport all that gas to Europe? In the palm of their hands?
Second, it's NOT about the gas as you shills like to insist. See how mad all the farmers are all over Europe? Russia buys a lot form Europe and the EU desparetly needs those purchases. But you go ahead keep on insisting it's ALL ABOUT THE GAS. Turns out the liar is YOU.
“Countries like China, Japan, the United Arab Emirates, India, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Turkey, Romania, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam and Afghanistan are the main customers of Iran’s petrochemical and gas products from Assaluyeh terminals,? the official noted.
http://www.irna.ir/en/News/2652114/Economic/Iran_exports_liquid_gas_prod...
By ships.
good, that you educate the audience on the ZH.
Without you, they would be lost in the universe.
How is your small SS country doing? How many jews did your grandfather kill?
Did you participate in the last SS parade?
Ahh another day for your loaded questions troll :)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
The loaded question is in the seat of your pants.
Don't tell me the answer
You need to shower, I can smell your fear from this side of the atlantic.
Iran is only important IF they sell in USD,which they won't.Using SWIFT as a weapon
will go down in history as the end of Pax Americana.
If I was a Balt, I would be scared as well, very scared.
And no EPA to worry about, that's how they get a project like this built in 5 years. Unless WWIII has already kicked off.
We live in interesting times!
No sweat Hunter Biden has the new Qatar pipeline to feed Europe if only ISIS would hurry up and clear the way
Good for Russia & China.
Putin is running circles around our poser leader Barry Soetoro. Barry doesn't no what day of the week it is, or who he works for.He only knows how to play golf, hate patriotic Americans, the military, gun owners (including the U.S. Marine held in a Mexian jail), bible readers, christians, the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the 2nd amendment.
Barry thrives to divide this country, and to enslave the blacks & latinos into poverty by lying and brainwashing them in to voting for the communist Democrat party for life.
How many hispanics have and continue to die from their psyops program "Fast & Furious"? This is probably to deep for you to understand! Brian Terry learned the hard way.
Oh fer gawd sakes...is there Anyone on the Entire Planet, especially Russia, China, and the jihadists, who doesn't know that Oboma is just trying to hide his head in one of those golf bunkers and let the clock run out on him.
Do you notice how he looks madder and madder these days? Zee basterds on the political fronts have taken away his free-run, endless summer golf vacation for the next two years....oh what to do what to do? After all, Valerie Jarett is only good at shaking down American businesses so she is Valley-girl-like, "Hey, it's not my JOB!"
And ya gotta believe, more than anything, that the "Two Clintons" have got so much dirt on Everyone in the democwatic party that ain't nobody gonna challenge hila-pig. Imagine the Clintons know EXACTLY where Barry's birth certificate is, and everything else, like let's see that college app? And how come NOBODY saw him after his birth. I could, in five minutes, come up with twenty people who saw my kids within hours of their birth....
Oh yeah, course the Clintons may burn him anyway, just cause they can. After all, otherwise he's off and we are paying secret service and pension for another fifty years for the guy...not to say he can't sell all those state secrets...which is exactly what he has planned.
What he REALLY wants to do is run out the clock until he leaves office and can reap those big, fat, speaking fees which is why they all sign on in the first place.
Vladdy-Poot said the European gas network will be connected to this new Power of Siberia network so that Russia-China can determine how much gas flows west and how much flows east on an ongoing basis.
Picture this:
A big master valve (over-simplification here, but just follow me) with a vertical lever, and as you push the lever west, more gas flows west and less flows east. And as you push the lever east, more gas flows east and less gas flows west.
Now picture that there's a geopolitical wind sail attached to that master lever. How the political winds are blowing pushes the sail, which pushes the lever, and thus Europe is made to pay for their anti-Russian stance, or they are allowed to benefit from a pro-Russian stance, in realtime. Same with China. Russia is the keystone, and East and West must pay proper homage.
What a great setup! It's an incredibly potent geopolitical windfall, and an eventual checkmate, for Russia. And there's nothing the U.S. can do about it. In fact, the U.S. and its euros bitches have brought this evovling checkmate into being, and they are accelerating their own demise by their anti-Russian policies.
I'd call this Grand Reversal - Russia goes from trounced-upon (1989-now) to being the possessor of the checkmate!
Using the same Imagery, imagine a bidding war.. each time the bid goes up the handle changes position :)
Using the same Imagery...
Isn't that how the our (s)elected "members" running the Council on Foreign Relations determine the direction / placement of our military assets?
hunter biden say what
dad said when this union free enemy pipeline is built the chinese and the russians will not of built this.
when if they build this nobody will come.
frack futures and qatar gas and usa fracked lpg is what is needed init
This is great news for the world. A China buying natural gas from Russia is a China that has less incentive to go to war over the South China Sea and a China that will burn less coal.
As for Gazprom - all the money going to Russia will be stolen by Putin's buddies. That is why Gazprom trades at a P/E of 2.7.
Anyone out there who thinks this is some sort of sign of Russian economic strength should invest all their money in Gazprom and watch the Russians steal it.
Meanwhile, back in the Eu it doesn't get crazier than this :
France of Hollande now a member of the Negative Interest club !
People pay money to France to hold its treasury notes !
This is a country where the government has just been dissolved and recalibrated to exclude those who shouted : "we need to increase our debt not decrease our deficits!"-- And now the markets say to new government we believe you!
Hey presto! France is land of milk and honey! These guys move as fast as Putin on his pipeline to Xanadu! Lol !
Senor Draghi can he play magic on his flute?
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/09/01/france-welcome-to-the-negative...
Get out the Coolies and the Kulaks!
Ahem, sorry to piss in the punch bowl people but it seems the Russkies got a shitty deal from the Chinese who know a good opportunity when they see it. Some reckon that at the negotiated gas prices Gazprom will be at break even if not actually destroying capital. Sorry to butt in on the Putin love-in.
Wow, a guy who DOESN'T suck Pootins dick.
Quite a rarity here on Zero Hedge/Russia Today.
Agreed. The whole "chess vs checkers" analogy is so trite. I assume there are other reasons why China and Russia seem to be making gains while the US sputters. I think perhaps Americans have just become really fat, lazy, and entitled. Heck, they vote for Socialists like Obama. We're screwed. Oh well- I won't mind if life slows down and becomes a bit more provincial.
Hitler had full employment in 3 yrs after taking power with the highest unemployment in European in history. Jew run USA was still sinking in depression.
Funny things happen on the way to cutting the banksters out.
Prosperity for All
Only problem is Hitler was a Rothschild and so is daughter Angie.
That old meme that Hitler put a chicken in every pot, built some roads and save der vaterland is getting stale and nobody but brain dead even regurgitate it any more.
Unemployment went down because Rothschild, IBM, I.G.Farben, Ford and others funded it.
He made trains run on time.
Today, you could issue an IPO for a company that makes trains run on time, and the greenies would bid it up, thinking that the trains actually used time as an energy source.
Unture that he was a Rothschild. It's Jew propaganda to stop any following he has. Its mostly about "don't ever get the bright idea of cutting the Jew bankers out"
ace give up the long term price in the Contract and the source - link? or....shut the Fuck up!
$70 billion? Hah, pikers, we can do that much QE in just a few months. But seriously, who do you think will come out ahead here, the world's largest debtor nation sitting on a $4 trillion monetary base, or an alliance of two countries with energy resources and capital?
A little trivia... the welders in the video are using American 3M welding helmets!
Putin is playing the long game; the West is finished, their vision is only about survival of the status quo. The future is coming at them so fast they that they had to go back to the "Cold War"playbook (General Breedlove) because they are brain dead and can't understand the new world dynamics.
3M manufactures in about 45 countries and markets in many more. Though I do wonder if all of the field welders will be equipped with those pumped in fresh air, welding hoods.
Also, if they'll ditch the 6010 rods for wire machines.
That might complicate the process, if they need shielding gas.
What a chump Putin is, he got totally screwed on the gas deal.
That's what you get for getting in bed with the filthy Chinese.
These two asshole countries deserve each other.
Show me the link to the price in the contract? or shut the fuck up!
Peak oil. Climate change. Economic manipulation. Digital surveillance. Peak water. Currency devaluation. World war...the things social collapse are made of.
http://olduvai.ca
a couple of interesting points in the video above.
the pipes seem to be made of a paper mache type card bored material they will fold during the rain winter season.
it is to be mit noted the paper products do not stand up well in variable weather environments.
itis also very sad that things have got so bad that putin instead of signing his name on the pipes he instead signed the russian words fuck you bath house.
not a good day for cfr,the heritage institute or chatham house types.
we can still win
we must pray for pipeline rains
and hope the paper pipes float away.
The establishment's QE shot its own foot and morally erased the sole superpower leadership tgat it won at the end of the Cold War. Now they are preparing warz to shore up their faded historical fate; but history shows they won't prevail this time.
"history shows they won't prevail this time."
History shows The USA hasn't ever prevailed, IN MY LIFETIME, in any wars!
Vietnam: Lost
Marines in Beirut: Lost
Iraq: Lost both wars; first war precipitated 911; second war we are currently losing. We just gave Iraq to Iran and extrimist Sunnis.
I won't even mention the ramifications of the small conflicts like Greneda, Panama, Nicuragua.
If Amerika tries another war I wouldn't be suprised if we get invaded.
The sole purpose of those limited wars that you mentioned had been for wealth transfer to the ruling economic interests whose intentions were to let wars drag on for years without any total victory insight.
Putin: The New World Order is coming, bitchez..
Obama: WTF?! I have isolated them from the world!
The Russian version of KEYSTONE.
Amazing what can be done when there isn't a political payoff involved.
What will happen to Amerika when Putin and China start dumping their mountain of dollars BIG TIME ?
That is the coup de gras to be used when the time is right. Destroying the dollar is.probably more valuable to Russia and China than recovering the value held.in their holdings.
This press conference from a few days ago is worth watching. It's about the formation of the Donbass Republic Army. It contains a lot of hometruths about the West's attitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH35raTPVu8
+10000
Great video of press conference. Explains a lot. It seems the USA is supporting Neo-Nazi Galacian units using WWII SS badges on their uniform.
It doesn't surprise me the the USA is, again, supporting NAZIs.
checkmate...
Hunter Biden shits his pants and smells his own underwear entrenched with methane gas. DNA is not a positive gene pool prevalence.
And eventually the pipeline with go through Pakistan and into the Indian Ocean without passing enemy territory.
Maybe to India as well.
It's over for us, we and Europe can thank the Jews.
bastards from hell
Keystone pipeline is frozen. The Jews responsible will die at the firing line. An American firing line, not Germany. Hitler was right, you are scum sucking parasites. Stalin was half right distinguishing the Jewish plague of disease and lies. That's why he used you to move the agenda forward.
A blast from the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84MsRuC-1l8
Too bad they don't have an EPA to fuck it all up.
Oh, yes, another project that will never be completed. First they'll finance the build-out using some budget money. Then they'll divy-up the financing between Putin's friends. Finally, when the cost overruns will force this project into bankruptcy, they'll sell the pipeline to China for a promise not to invade Russia.
Anybody with an 0 at the beginning of their name, is either Irish, or Muslim.
Either way, you're either drunk, or crazy.
Or Swiss or Italian.
Them too.
Goes to show how diverse your knowledge is. Keep at it.
Oblom: Don't treat the frequent users on ZH and more importantly, news stories such as "What It's All About" too seriously. The many faces of Tyler Durden who posted the above article all have "suspect" sources of information. You get many of the anti-US/West Pro-Russia/Putin crowd jump on an article like this and believe every word. ZH is very colourful at times but not all information presented is based on fact.
What bugs me are two things:
1. The number of pro-Putin propaganda that ZH publishes lately. ZH is turning into RT or LifeNews. Are these paid articles, or do the authors buy into Russian's media BS? Did the West not learn anything back from Soviet propaganda days? Do the readers not realize that the man came from KGB?
2. Logical inconsistency. ZH historically had a liberetarian, anti-big government bent. How could anybody with such world-view praise Putin? Just because he is "sticking it to the US?" This is illogical since:
a) an anti-US position doesn't immediately make one a positive player. If "A" is bad, then "not A" is not necesserily good;
b) among many other things, Putin is a wanna-be tyrant who built a "power vertical" in his own country.
so pray tell - give me the positive spin on US involvement in Ukraine from day one?
Facts / analysis / result - thank you in advance
Dear ZH readers, aka "Putin-cheerleders",
I don't know how this Liberetarian, anti-Federal government, anti-Western mass media attitude morhped into love for Putin. Was it bacause he is a "strong leader, who stood up to Obama?" You guys are completely bedazzled by a thug, liar, and a killer of his own people.
This is what will happen in the next couple of years. Putin will be deposed, most likely killed. Probably by one of the internal factions. He is a poor copy of Stalin, the man he aspires to look like so much. He is less clever, and much less powerful than he pretends to be. The "Russian Spring" movement that he is financing, and desperately trying to control, will either result in:
1) the death of thousands of Russian soldiers in Ukraine (continuation of the ongoing invasion), or;
2) will turn on Putin himself (if he gives up and leaves Ukraine alone).
Meanwhile, the sanctions and dead bodies of Russian soldiers will piss off the still complacent segment of Russian population.
Putin is caught in the trap of his own making. All he can do is to posture and threaten the West.
Afterwards, if Russia survives as a country, it'll run to the West begging to be saved from China. In case you've failed to realise it, China-Russia partnership looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/lovbh2w
Oh yeah the West has done such a good job with the West, Middle East and anywhere else we go.
lol
You are showing three things with one post:
1. You are a child.
2. You aren't friends with logic.
3. You are part of the newly minted ZH membership who is trying to "fit in" too much.
Less group-think, kiddo.
One thing to know about me.
I never try to fit in.
Why does it matter how long I have posted here?
That is laughable. I've seen this since the internet went public that people try to get more posts, more likes, more friends, more years. As if it means ANYTHING at all. ahahahah
I'm a child? Ok but even a child like me can see what we brought to Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine.
You are a symptom of an infection that ZH has caught lately. The avalanche of pro-Putin posts by postly 1-6 months long members. Most of them echoing each other's stupid claims, citing no credible sources.
ok Ace give me the positive spin on US involvement in Ukraine from day one:
Facts / Analysis / Result - thanks please focus on the citizens of Uk
I dont need your opinion on the site if you cant answer the above
Hurry up!
You try to present Putin as a thug while USA/NATO have attacked Afganstan, Iraq(once), Syria, Lybya, Iran(2nd time), Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq(3 times), Sudan, etc, etc, etc. It's NOT Russia who is attacking and ocupying countries around the world but USA/NATO.
You try to prsent Putin as a liar, while we are still wating for those imaginary "weapons of mass distraction" to be found in Iraq and we are still waiting for the proof of those imaginary "nuclear weapons" Iran is working on. How about the proof Assad gassed his people? USA's corporate Owned Media lied 3 times Asad had done it. Ukraine has claimed 3 times already they have been invaded by Russia and they even claimed they destroyed Russian tanks 3 weeks ago. We are still waiting for the photos of those destroyed tanks.
In conclussion, The West/NATO have been lying and attacking and occupying countries for the past 70 years.
PS. Send me the proof of them "weapons of mass distraction" Bush claimed Iraq had. How long do I have to wait, eh? This is getting shamful. I'd be ashamed to have been lied so much and to still believe what NATO/USA says. Arent you?
Could you explain to me again how US doing all those terrible things that you've described has anything to do with Putin killing Ukrainian AND Russian people? Walk me again through your logic please.
show me who he killed thanks
useless talkings
Tell me more, Volk. How do you really feel about tsar Putin and the great Russia?
I agree. A lot of Putin cheerleaders on ZH. I always get a chuckle out of ZH and some of the news postings. Especially, from less than credible authors with less than factual and reliable sources of information.
enough generalization show the post that was wrong
if you are going to criticize then show me -
I notice that lately the Zero Hedge board is flooded with an army of scumbags (a dozen or two) farting loudly the smelly gases...
they seems so ridiculously foolish even reaching the idiocy level but then my second thoughts tipping my head that prolly these scumbags are just making a living out of typing words as per assignments, we all know that finding a decent job is pretty tough nowadays.
So please carry on you the words army, I gonna forgive n forget, may God bless you all for making the ends meet.... if not every day then most of the days.
Donetsk and Kharkhov gas fields total revenue is estimated to be able to pay the US national debt 90 to 200 times. The US dept is about 18 trillion and those fields at present are said to be worth 1600 to 3000 trillion US dollars. And there are other lucrative fields. It is all the gas the EU would need if ....... if east Ukraine is defeated.
How dumb are you? 3,000 trillion dollars? Do you know the global capitalization numbers? 200 Trillion? Do you work at a 7-Eleven?
Oh, he meant roubles
Al Kayda will be moar than happy to set their shiney new pipeline on fire. Like Indians on a wagon train.
the wish is father to the thought
DUH
First, RT reports that:
At talks in the Belarusian capital, the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics have urged Kiev to acknowledge their autonomy within Ukraine, but said they wish to remain an integral part of the country. LNR and DNR representatives urged the Ukrainian government to end their military operation in the country’s east so that parliamentary and local elections can take place freely. “The president, government and [parliament] Verkhovna Rada should accept… decrees granting immediate recovery from the humanitarian catastrophe, acknowledging the special status of the territories under the control of the People’s Republics, creating conditions - first of all stopping the ‘anti-terror’ operations - for free elections of local authorities and MPs,” the document with the republics' position reads. The document also calls on Kiev to guarantee “the right to use the Russian language at an official level on the territories of the People’s Republics.”
I will write an analysis of this position later today
Second, the Ukie forces near Lugansk have abandoned the airport which is now in total control of the NAF. This info is confirmed by video footage taken today.
Third, there are very intense battles around the Donetsk airport which is now considered "contested" and neither side is in full control of it. This indicates that the airport will most likely fall under full NAF control in the next 24 hours max.
Elsewhere, the NAF have shot down a Ukrainian Su-27. This is significant because the Su-27 is a heavy long range high speed high altitude interceptor and not at all suited for slow speed low altitude close air support missions. The fact that it was shot down indicates that the Ukies have practically lost their entire close air support aviation. Two helicopters have also been shot down today.
Stay tuned, I will keep you posted.
The Saker http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
The Commander from E. Ukraine said Europeans are coming to fight alongside of them.
I guess the Euros are fed up with their ruination too.
Section 8 NatGas pipeline expansion under EBT credit card consumption transaction. Your credit card rewards points will help finance new NATGAS infrastructure facilities.
The day's of a high pitched faggot screaming, he just spent $140 dollars. Oh my god. Can you believe he just spent that money on gas?
The high pitched man women asked, which car is yours? I reply, just topped off my prius. The entire store muppets go into complete laugher..
Of course, it was my 30 gallon tank Lincoln Mark LT Crew cab truck.
Watch and learn. Natural Gas will repeat the cheap diesel bubble from the 1980's.
Buy a new 2013 GM flexed fueled SUV running off of corn byproducts and we will upgrade that same shitty ass SUV clown car to natural gas. Or you can wait until 2015. The new hybrid SUV clown car will cost $90k. We are expanding manufacturing in our St. Petersburg Russia GM Cadillac plant.
/ lol
Why doesnt Barry just get 400 billion from his Fed handlers, and buy the pipeline contract.
Then he would own the pipeline and Russia would be rich. Imagine that, Putin could open up his computer and show how the fed sent him a four and 11 zeros.
Vid speaks for itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1eWrQkOA0
3968 kilometer bullseye. Let them pay for it then when they really rely on it....
Hot debate – well my hats off to the ruskies for actually creating wealth out of something tangible rather than sitting at a computer robbing the every-day joe working his ass off to feed the family with fiat money created by debt!
Great video,
the joining of two nations, symbolized by the joining of a piece of pipe.
Imagine that, real men,
with real skills,
doing real work,
building something real,
to move real gas,
without one fake USD in the whole eqation.
Awesome propaganda, they took the time to sign the boy's helmets. And Barry's plan is to shoot another round while his handlers push for WW3.
I can just image if Barry was there, he would be imagining how he could yummy down on that big black pipe.
We're soooooo fucked.
Exactly the point, their leaders are working together to rip the old paradigm down and build one centered around them.
While our leaders are essentially playing golf and pushing our nation off a cliff for their own gain.
NOT THAT I WOULD EVEN WANT OBAMA NEAR A PHONE OR A PEN, but the guy spent MONTHS playing golf, while Russian and Chinese leaders are forging historic partnerships and building dreams.
The entire side of the planet that is resource rich has essentially turned its back on the USA, and they despise us, the enemy of my enemy is my friend will come into play and the next time the world falls into crisis (wwIII) you will be hard pressed to find any nations willing to side with the USA on any terms. . . the sharks will smell the blood in the proverbial water and they will come.
Its just sad, in the USA you have no real rights or freedoms, you have some govt allocated privileges attached to a lot of "ifs".
If you pay your taxes , you can keep your car, house, and what we dont take out of your paycheck.
If you pay your taxes and your kids pay the taxes we demand them to after you die, maybe then they can have something you left them.
Your freaking progeny don't even have a right to what you leave them in this country unless you are some Rockefeller Roberbarron ass-jerk who puts everything into some convuluted pyramid scheme trust organization.
If you pay your fines, fees, registration costs, inspection costs, license fees, applications and get your permits, maybe you can do what you want for 1 year and then come back and doit all again.
WE put and dump SOOOO MUCH of our hard earned money into GOVT and the GOVT just turns around and uses that money to find MORE WAYS to EXTORT MORE MONEY out of us instead of giving us something in Return for that money.
Half these roads should of been double decked by now, yet EVERYONE is forced to endure 2 hour commutes because some asshole thinks its a genius IDEA to have road construction going on at 5 AM to 11 Am instead of 6PM to 4AM.
Eventually society will hit a breaking point I call it Peak stupidity, the point where the government has produced soo much stupid, that everything ceases to function and comes to a grinding halt.
Leisure Suit Barry is a crumbling piece of toast, doing what he has been ordered to do: Nothing. Unless he is needed as a figurehead to sign a documnet or read a teleprompter.
We could actually save money by just using TOTUS and attaching an autopen to it.