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Ukraine Defense Minister Warns Of "Worst Conflict Since WWII", Shifts Forces To "Combat Full-Scale Russian Invasion"
Unless they are tilting at windmills, the rhetoric this morning from Ukraine's defense minister is the strongest and most actionable yet. Via his Facebook page, Valeriy Galetey accused Russia of "open aggression," and explained that:
- *RUSSIA SHIFTED TO 'FULL-SCALE' INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
- *UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
- *UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
Earlier in the morning, US Senator Bob Menendez said he has "no doubt Russia has invaded Ukraine," and following Ukraine requests for assistance from Europe and US, NATO responded by noting a reaction force or 3-5,000 can be ready in 48 hours.
First, Barroso claims Putin 'blackmailed' Europe...
Jose Manuel Barroso, who has just heard Putin. He says that when he asked about the military boundless in Ukraine, the Russian leader went to the threats: "The problem is this," according to Barroso, "if I want to, I can take Kiev in two weeks." As if to say, do not provoke me to anger with new sanctions.
Then the US chimes in...
- *U.S. SENATOR ROBERT MENENDEZ SPEAKS IN KIEV
- *UKRAINE NEEDS ASSISTANCE FROM EU, U.S., MENENDEZ SAYS
- *UKRAINE-NATO ASSOCIATION IS A LONG-TERM PROSPECT, MENENDEZ SAYS
- *UKRAINE-NATO PARTNERSHIP PACT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP: MENENDEZ
- *UKRAINE NEEDS WEAPONS TO DEFEND ITSELF, MENENDEZ SAYS
- *MENENDEZ SAYS HE HAS NO DOUBT RUSSIA HAS INVADED UKRAINE
Then NATO responds...
- *NATO'S REACTION FORCE TO BE DEPLOYABLE IN 48 HOURS: OFFICIAL
- *REACTION FORCE TO BE AGREED BY NATO LEADERS AT SEPT. 4-5 SUMMIT
Free to read: Nato allies at odds over response to Russian aggression http://t.co/Q54sdlBL1l pic.twitter.com/0l6SmE4xKv
— Financial Times (@FT) September 1, 2014
- *NATO FORCE SPEARHEAD MAY BE 3,000 TO 5,000 TROOPS: OFFICIAL
And then Ukraine steps it up...
- *RUSSIA SHIFTED TO `FULL-SCALE' INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
- *UKRAINE HALTS ATTEMPTS TO DISLODGE REBELS: DEFENSE MINISTER
- *UKRAINE SHIFTS FOCUS TO HALTING RUSSIAN INVASION, GELETEY SAYS
- *UKRAINE WARNS ON BIGGEST CONFLICT IN EUROPE SINCE WORLD WAR II
- *UKRAINE ARMY SAYS REBELS BEING REPLACED BY PROFESSIONAL TROOPS
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Seems like the right time to be buying US stocks..?
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Just let them fight world war III on their own, it will be over by newyear...
If NATO sends "NATO" troops to a non-NATO country to assist one side in a civil war I see two things happening;
1) Things escalating quickly.
2) BTFATH
The full court press is on to whip up things to a frenzy
"It is no secret that Ambassador Pyatt and Assistant Secretary Nuland have been working with the government of Ukraine, with the opposition, with business and civil society leaders to support their efforts," Ms Psaki continued.
...
"That would be great I think to help glue this thing and have the UN glue it and you know, F*** the EU," -Luciferian Oligarch puppet Victoira Nuland
I and my children will not give our lives for these bastards.
Surprised that Senator Menendez could make time from his busy schedule of abusing 13-year-old Dominican girls to comment on this situation.
Just Released News!
...The USSA's Golfer in Chief has invited the Leaders of the World to a Golfing Summit and Tea to Iron out all misunderstandings and prevent Nuclear Thermal War.
Named...."The 19th Hole Tea Summit"
If NATO invades Ukraine with 5000 troops, Russia will respond with 30,000 troops.
Why bother just send in tactical nukes, they will get the message fast without losing lives of countless young men who should be on the beaches of Europe instead of dying for bankers and politicians.
I guess the morons in Brussels and DC still do not understand the mindset of the old KGB or the Russian military. Here is what they really are warning the West about and I trust that Putin is not bullshitting either:
Putin: If I Want, I take Kiev in Two Weeks
What's the point? "Wipe it off the earth"?
Certainly sounds like World War II.
Trouble is that Putin doesn't even want Donbass or Luhansk. Both would be a massive drain on the Russian economy just like they are on the Ukraine economy. Owning either region is like owning Detroit in the 80's; both are slow-motion economic train-wrecks that are going to be overflowing with pensioners.
Reichminister Nuland isn't interested in rescuing the economy of either region and she couldn't give a rat's ass about the soon to be permanently unemployed blue-collar factory workers. It's all about a parking lot for the U.S. anti-ballistic missiles (with a few pointed at Moscow, of course).
The massive blunder the U.S. made was assuming that the Ukrainian people would be docile sheep lapping up the western media line. This was suppose to be a push-over for the current round of psychopathic Jewish Ukrainian oligarchs establishing their power bases and taking their turn screwing the Ukrainians out of everything.
NATO isn't coming to save any Ukraine people. It serves the same purpose at the DHS serves in the United States: to save the government oligarchs FROM the people.
Ukraine now has the most dangerous population on earth: Nothing to look forward too and nothing to lose. Killing their oligarchs will solve nothing, but at least they'll have something to celebrate.
listen to the one who shouts loudest for he is surely loosing - take pleasure that it isn't Russia.
We might actualy die on the beaches of Europe again for bankers and politicians.
Won't you miss Miami and Atlanta and Georgetown ?
Markets aren't reacting because those in the know understand that if Russia wants Ukraine, they can have Ukraine. However, if Russia decided to go further than Ukraine, which they won't, then NATO protection treaties come into play and things go south quickly. Russia needs a buffer between themselves and NATO and Ukraine is it.
The nukes wont hurt the shale gas will they?
I think the breakfast club in Washington is smoking the "it takes a war to rescue our economy" cigars.
Porky, Yats, Do Not Panic! Remain Calm. It's just US_EU*. Tell CNN.
* Ukrainian Seperatists in Eastern Ukraine
That's exactly what makes him a good puppet. Do as you're told, or these pictures go to the prosecutor.
probably has a hotel suite of young Uki girls and bucketloads of coke
Hey,when you're a sociopath you can't get excited by normal stuff. You gotta really push the limits. It's why congresscritters often get caught up in ridiculous scandals, drunk driving, cocaine, texting pics of your weiner to underage girls, choking someone to death after raping them. It's what it takes for them to have a good time.
I think Menendez is over there to audition13 yo Ukrainian girls.
Anyone else notice that since CIA Director John Brennan's clandestine visit to Ukraine back in April, the Ukraine government has gone full retard?
Or am I just being tin foil hat paranoid?
Every visit by a US rep brought a renewed bloodlust. Typical, in retrospect.
"Just remember, we're behind you guys 200%!"
After all the public knowledge of Vicoria Nuland's criminal malice and official misconduct in creating the Ukraine conflict, she is still calling the shots and getting a fat paycheck from the taxpayers. What does it take for these psychopaths to get fired? Because none of them have the integrity to step down.
Dear fleur de lis,
We would like to introduce you to an important piece of legislation, the NDAA.
Sincerely,
TPTB
PS - Duck, it's a drone!
@Replacement, hope you don't mind my using your space to answer the psychopaths.
Dear TPTB,
Have lots of fun and games with your NDAA. One of these days the tables will turn and you will be TPTW. Then you will be subjected to your own treasonous racket. Which of you will turn State's evidence first?
And your drones don't scare us. they're only as good as the goons controlling them. By the way don't count on them either, they can be easily bought off.
Sincerely,
America
PS--Duck, it's a cop.
Don't worry, they will put all our lives on the line anyway, just sit tight and enjoy the show, as Bill Hicks said "this is just a ride...this is just a ride"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrKW7fh_Bo
NATO is like a Hollywood star, they need to get mentioned as relevant all the time.
So what happens when the full court press convinces the American people that the Russians have invaded Ukraine.
Do you really think you'll have Hannity & Maddow schrieking about how we need to invade right away?
Are you putting money down against that happening? Sounds like a bet I'd take you up on.
Or as I prefer to call them: Insanity and Madcow.
I use to listen to hannity on the radio until I just couldn't stand him anymore. He claims to be for small government but yet is a war hawk. His stance on the war on drugs is insane. Either your for big government or your for small government. Can't claim one and be the other.
To bad we disarmed the Ukraine of their nukes. The treaty of Budapest apparently was worthless.
You are so right. The world would be so much better off if the fucking Nazis had nukes.
To bad we disarmed the Ukraine of their nukes. The treaty of Budapest apparently was worthless.
To bad we disarmed the Ukraine of their nukes. The treaty of Budapest apparently was worthless.
I think your mom said the same thing about you.
ignorant post
Sending NATO troops to a non-NATO country would be like, um, an invasion?
Already done several times. NATO is certainly not now, if it ever was, defensive in purpose.
Operation escalation going as planned, we already have been sending "professionals", money, and hardware..
If by chance any of these troops were to get shelled, then what?
I wonder what the response would be if a Russian drone was shot down over the Ukraine, you know like that Israeli one over Iran? I was sick of hearing about that for 3 weeks...oh wait.
I can't see this going on much longer before a FU rocket barrage from "somewhere" near the Russian border...
Ha. Putin believes that he's fighting americans in Ukraine. Imagine his dissappointment when he discovers that he is in possession of ukraininan missile manufacturing facilities but americans are yet to be fought?
Snortin' crack is one thing, sniffin' crack addict ass is another thing, entirely.
I think it can be quite enjoyable (sometimes).
Stop World War 3 ?.......start HANGING Central Bankers.
Hanging is good as the corps hangs about rotting for those that did not see the actual event. Piking of heads with easily readable label signage is good as well.
Hey Obama,
It's corpse in this instance. Not the same as the Marine Corpse but close.
With everything that we all know about this situation in Ukraine , is anybody dumb enough to go and sing up for WW111, you know what don't answer that ,my bad.
That where the days... Where midgets filled your glass at the restaurant on the table...
Why did they stop with this service anyway?
It was finally banned in our town because they kept getting tossed with the empty goblets into the fireplace.
"Why did they stop with this service anyway?"
Same reason 10M Americans are now on disability. Money for nothng, etc, etc...
US Senator Bob Menendez- who is a pro-amnesty traitor and likes underage little girls from the Dominican Republic supplied to him by his dual-citizen eye doctor friend. Democrat.
menendez is a fairly obvious problem
Do these creepy politician's get some sort of phantom cash deposit everytime they shill for the Zionist's? $100K for major drama war mongering, $250K if you show up in a hotzone and do it, etc. etc.
Billy, the "carrot" incentives you mentioned may play some role ... but the more effectiove, "stick" components - compromising pictures/tapes etc. are far more effective in permanently motivating and manipulating these puppets.
Anyone remember that somewhat brief-lived episode of "foot tapping" in the men's bathroom that temporarily de-railed Idaho senator Craig a few years back? His arrest had actually ocurred several months prior. Whatever then-contemperaneous perfidy was afoot (pun intended), we may never know ... suffice to say every individual in an authoritative position in DC - and elsewhere - is compromised and able to blackmailed on an as-needed basis.
Interesting take and that may explain Ron Paul's behavior during the primary when he suddenly backed off while seeing 20K peeps at every whistle stop.
Dr. Ron Paul, a staunch pro life obstetrician with many decades of highly-regarded professional service, had performed an abortion long ago. Tape recordings of his discussing this (during a surveilled, private phone call) were played back to him. His demeanor during his campaign abruptly changed.
This is how the game is played.
(Ross Perot was also threatend/blackmailed with the exposure of some incriminating info involving his daughter during his presidential run. And so it goes...)
If there is a crest of warmongers driving America to war, Menendez will be on the front edge.
He’s a crazed warmonger; one of the biggest mouthpieces for the Israel Lobby; he falls on the ground, foam coming out of his mouth, jabbering war war war… when there’s zero evidence, zero evidence, zero evidence! And on and on he goes… war in Libya, war in Syria, war in Iran, war in Ukraine… Moar! Moar! Moar!
Bottomline, if you clamor for war, we can arrange for you and your ilk to be on the front lines.
Sorta like the 'spaceship to Paradise' in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
If Russia was invading, if, wouldn't the first step be to cut off oil and gas to Ukraine and Europe ? I mean really ? !
"War is old men talkin' and young men dyin' "... By eliminating the talking warhawks on BOTH sides of conflict (any), brings peace to the land but only until some upstart warhawk decides to have another temper tantrum. George Bush, who is solely responsible for america's Iraq war involvement, is a case in point. "... after all, he (Saddam Hussein) did try to kill my daddy". Without his say-so, there would have been no Iraq war and there would be no ISIS today. And now another baseless wider European war is imminent. The John McCains and the Lindsey Grahams of the world are manipulative deviants who will escape their just punishments. It's shameful that people put up with such non-sense, whether it's here or in eastern Europe.
Democrats voted for Iraq before we invaded. Can't hang that on W alone. Republicans are pushing for Ukraine involvement now. Can't blame Dems alone.
Our two parties = two sides of the same coin.
utterly and completely false. every major democrat suppported and even demanded war - there are dozens of youtube clips of passionate dems demanding war; you also forget that every major intelligence service confirmed WMDs and even the worthless UN passed countless resolutions attacking saddam. dont spread lies and then accuse others of "shame" you also ignore the mass graves of saddam
The democrats (and republicans) saw an opportunity to advance their political careers by being pro-war. E.g. why else would Hillary Clinton endorse the war ? They knew that with Bush already committed to ousting Hussein, they could gain politically by rubber-stamping a foregone conclusion. It is most shameful that the well calculated self-interests of dirty polititians (be they democrat or republican) supercedes the best interests of the american people. And it is that mentality (that cancer) that must be purged from Capitol Hill if we are to survive as a nation.
Don't think for a minute they will escape punishment.
"We'll be home before the leaves fall."
August 1914...
Kiev is losing - badly. They need foreign intervention to survive. NATO, the US, and the neocons have too much prestige on the line to let Kiev go, just as Russia has too many strategic imperatives to let it succeed.
Right now this is jockeying for the moral high ground.
So, should I take the tomatoes inside?
It looks like NATO has been training, almost in anticipation of something...
Name 1 successfull nato action...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH35raTPVu8
I watched this news conference of DNR officers. They said that if Russia was involved at all - they would have taken Kiev.
ZATO is a joke. Israel's ground forces cannot beat Hezbollah let alone Iran. Hezbollah kicked their asses in Lebabon.
Saudi Arabia is another paper tiger. Iran could take Saudi Arabia in about 1 day.
Hopefully, most Americans are waking up to the endless wars and endless dead and maimed American boys for the banksters and scum like Democrat Senator and pedophile rapist Bob Martinez.
The only idiots dumb enough to try to fight the Russians or Novoroissya is the Poles. Go luck - you will need it.
foreign mercenary losses in East-Ukraine:
by September 1, 2014:
-total: 460 foreginers:
polish «ASBS Othago» 194 persons
american "greystone" 80 persons
american "academi" (black water) -160 persons.
baltic women snipers- 26 persons.
source (russian-language):
http://news-mail.by/2014/09/01/svodka-boevyx-dejstvij-v-novorossii-za-1-...
© NEWS-MAIL.BY
Hey, zzz, I do not know if that list includes the active duty US military personnel killed - such as two star general Randy Key, who was killed in late July.
There are reports that 180 US special operatives have been sent to the Ukraine on specific missions, identified by the GRU, and clearly warned through back channels to cease and desist activites immediately or face extreme sanctions.
Supposedly the killing of said US military personnel - including General Key - is well underway.
Radiation is the answer.
Ukraine radicals is most Pollacks. West Ukraine is stronghold of these crazies. It is former Polish lands.
Soviets moved borders. Need to reward this mistake back to Poland and build wall.
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They've been very successful at conquering mountains of taxpayer money.
I have heard this argument several times... however folks forget that, the main objective is not winning, is to create havoc and destruction, and 'divide and conquer' as a final touch.
As long as they keep the ball in the enemy court and others killing themselves, is a win-win situation always, the house will win no matter what, this fundamental strategy is so clear and simple.
Eh, waisting money?
Here's a solution: Leave Russia the hell alone!
These guys only work weekends/holidays. Watch the tbonds fly.
This will be interpreted as 'good news' for a market rally tomorrow...
Don't forget the good beating in the wood shed on Tuesday for gold , it will be tuesday after all.
Ukraine is desperate, so is the fascist/Nazi regime as its coming close to winter and the nordstream will be done soon if they don't do something drastic. This is utter desperation from these criminals now. I think for the good guys, our job is to get the word out about these criminals and to stop any further escalation of war. Humanity does not deserve to continue to be sheep and controlled by these thugs.
Nordstream ist schon fertig.
excellent - they can tell Ukraine to f off now. But Russia will do everything to save the people from these thugs in power.!!!
No.
I think Putin will let the people cook themselves, and force them to throw out their government -- if for no other reason than
1) Show the Greeks and Spanish how its done
2) Not whip the MOAR WAR ferver in the Anglo political establishments.
Good observation Haus-T.
Porky Pig & Yats-the Rat are nothing more than 'boiling frogs'. v Galetey's goose is cooked as well.
6-7 weeks to ukie-election is a long time in the present situation. Looking forward to the removal of the facists in Kiev this fall.
Ja, richtig. Er meinte South Stream.
TITANIUM ANTI-GRAVITY POWERED RUSSIAN STUKAS STRAFING KIEV - PORKOCHUNKO
Ok, quit playing games. When do we get a Baghdad Bob body with Poroshenko's head on him?
"American tanks are NO WHERE near Baghdad."
The West is salivating for war.
I wonder what else they want to hide.
The sausage?
Ukraine defense minister!!! More like SS officer telling the world more lies and lies. So many opportunities to enact peace, but no. You want your nazi agenda and nothing else. You cannot live peacefully with your own Russian speaking citizens. What kind of mofo regime does that.
Historically speaking, both sides have ample reason to hate each other.
UKRAINE WARNS ON BIGGEST CONFLICT IN EUROPE SINCE WORLD WAR II
How many ethnic Russian civilians have been killed by Ukrainian forces in Eastern Ukraine?
Ukrainian forces must be losing badly and hence the desperate calls for help. Where are Nuland and McCain now? Busy in Syria with ISIS? Or in Iraq? Nobel Prize Winner is busy droning poor, brown folk or with golf or prancing around in taupe suit?
yeap, as I wrote below, they are desperate as its getting close to winter and the nordstream is getting closer to completion, hence they are truly desperate as is the EU/DC fascist gang. Spread the word, we cannot allow them to get their wars! Humanity deserves peace, not rivers of blood as the Nazi business model.
Zato banksters need a war to bury all the dirty laundry.
It would seem that the Svoboda-infested regime is losing the war now and there is no way to hide it, hence the urgency to "do something". Therein lies the rub, i.e. what would that something ential? More sham sanctions? Threats of nuclear war? The only solution would be to let the Donbass people have full autonomy with linguistic rights and the ability to have a large measure of self-government. Failing that, independence or a quasi-independent "South Ossetia" style arrangement would seem to be the ultimate solution.
In a word, the Kiev regime should give the people in Donbass home rule or they will ultimately lose the richest region of the Ukrainian state. What idiots (for not doing that or for following dictats of their real masters)
You really think the Donbass would shake hands and make friends with Kiev...I don't. How many locals who losts daughters and Mom's would want to blow up Kiev vehicles from here to eternity. I don't think there is a peace to be made. I could be wrong.
http://www.reuters.com/article/comments/idUSKBN0GS10C20140830
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(Reuters) - Ukraine said Russian tanks had flattened a small border town and pro-Russian rebels had made fresh gains in its east, as EU leaders signaled on Saturday they would threaten more sanctions against Moscow over the crisis.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, attending an EU summit in Brussels, said he was hoping for a political solution, but warned that his country was on the brink of full-scale war.
Russia has repeatedly dismissed accusations from Kiev and Western powers that it has sent soldiers into its neighbor, or supported pro-Russian rebels fighting a five-month-old separatist war in Ukraine's east.
But Ukraine military spokesman Andriy Lysenko told journalists in Kiev that Russian tanks had entered the small Ukrainian town of Novosvitlivka on the border with Russia and fired on every house.
"We have information that virtually every house has been destroyed," Lysenko added, without giving details on when the reported attack took place. Ukraine's daily military briefings typically cover the previous 24 hours.
Lysenko said the rebels had made new gains just east of the border city of Luhansk, one of the rebels' main strongholds, after opening up a new front in another area last week.
"Direct military aggression by the Russian Federation in the east of Ukraine is continuing. The Russians are continuing to send military equipment and 'mercenaries'," Ukraine's defense and security council said in a separate Twitter post.
Kiev and Western countries say recent rebel gains were the result of the arrival of armored columns of Russian troops, sent by Russian President Vladimir Putin to prop up a separatist rebellion that would otherwise have been near collapse.
There was no immediate fresh comment from Russia on Saturday. Putin on Friday compared Kiev's drive to regain control of its rebellious eastern cities to the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in World War Two.
"NO TIME TO WASTE"
EU leaders meeting in Brussels appointed Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk as president of the European Council, giving hawkish Kremlin critics in Eastern Europe new influence in the bloc.
According to a draft statement from the summit, the EU leaders were set to ask the European Commission and the EU's diplomatic service "to urgently undertake preparatory work" on further sanctions that could be implemented if necessary.
French President Francois Hollande stressed that a failure by Russia to reverse a flow of weapons and troops into eastern Ukraine would force the bloc to impose new economic measures.
"Are we going to let the situation worsen, until it leads to war?" Hollande said at a news conference. "Because that's the risk today. There is no time to waste."
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the EU was prepared to toughen sanctions against Russia but also that it wanted a political deal to end the confrontation.
"We are ready to take very strong and clear measures but we are keeping our doors open to a political solution," Barroso said at a news conference with Ukraine's president.
Poroshenko said the crisis was close to a tipping point.
"I think we are very close to the point of no return. The point of no return is full-scale war, which already happened on the territory controlled by separatists," he said.
He added, however, that a trilateral meeting on Monday involving representatives of Kiev, Moscow and the European Union could produce a ceasefire.
SHOTS FIRED
The crisis started when Ukraine's Moscow-backed president was ousted by street protests in February after he ditched a pact with the EU that would have moved the ex-Soviet republic firmly toward Europe and away from Russia.
Russia denounced the pro-Western leadership that took over as "a fascist junta" and went on to annex Ukraine's Crimea peninsula. Pro-Russian separatists then rebelled in Ukraine's mainly Russian-speaking east in April, setting up 'people's republics' and declaring they wanted to join Russia.
A senior U.N. human rights official said on Friday nearly 2,600 civilians, Ukrainian government forces and rebels had been killed in a conflict which has led to the biggest Russia-West crisis since the Cold War.
In Kiev, Ukraine's Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said a group of pro-Ukrainian fighters had broken out of encirclement by pro-Russian rebels near Donetsk early on Saturday, though other reports suggested many remained trapped.
Defense Minister Valery Heletey also ordered a clamp-down on information coming out of Ilovaysk, a town to the east of Donetsk.
Indicating government forces were being pulled back from the area, Heletey said on his Facebook page: "As soon as the danger for Ukrainian units has passed, all open information for the current period relating to the withdrawal of forces from Ilovaysk will be published."
Last week pro-Russian rebels opened a new front in a separate, coastal territory along the Sea of Azov and pushed Ukrainian troops out of the town of Novoazovsk. They are now threatening the strategic port city of Mariupol.
Several shots were fired on Saturday at a car carrying Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the breakaway Donetsk People's Republic, but he escaped unscathed, another separatist leader, Sergei Kavtaradze, told Reuters.
"Zakharchenko wasn't hurt. His driver was wounded and is being operated on," Kavtaradze said, adding that an operation was under way to catch whoever had fired the shots.
pop Novosvitlivka into google earth.
There are thousands of houses there. It would take a batallion of takes 3 days to destroy every one of these houses.
This is total crap.
Yes, and because I posted this I want to rape E. Ukraine children. Fog of war, y'all. Just showing the fog of war. At ease Putinites....
A little more fog for you....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-100-troops-dead-after-russians-open-fir...
A hundred Ukrainian troops have been killed after Russian troops opened fire on the humanitarian corridor championed by Vladimir Putin last week.
A further 85 troops were wounded after the bombardment by Russian artillery near the city of Illovaisk. Many have lost legs and arms in the explosions.
"There are very deeply wounded people. Guys say that they were going through the humanitarian corridor, but they got shot by Russians and their mercenaries" says Iryna Geraschenko, a spokesman for Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko.
It is thought that the Ukrainian troops belonged to the 28th, 39th, 40th and 51st brigades.
To ease the pressure on the doctors in Illovaisk, many of the wounded troops will now be conveyed to Kiev's military hospital, according to Ukrainian activist Arsenij Finberg - who made a plea for volunteers via Facebook.
The humanitarian corridor was set up at the insistence of Putin, who urged the rebels fighting in the Donbass to allow the trapped Ukrainian troops to escape.
"I call on the rebel forces to open a humanitarian corridor for the Ukrainian troops who are surrounded, so as to avoid unnecessary casualties and to give them the opportunity to withdraw from the zone of operations," Putin said in a statement published by the Kremlin on Friday.
Elsewhere, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has told a meeting in the Belarus capital, Minsk, that an "immediate ceasefire" is Russia's priority and in the interest of both sides.
Ukrainian forces have also withdrawn from Luhansk airport in the restive eastern region after firefights with pro-Russian separatists.
The massing of thousands of Russian troops on Ukraine's border and reports of Russian incursions into Ukraine have put a spotlight on Moscow's intentions in the post-Soviet states bordering the member states of the Nato military alliance.
UN agencies estimate that more than 2,000 people have been killed in the fighting between pro-Russian separatists and the Ukrainian military since April.
take a look at this canadian guy's twitter feed lots of photos and good updates
https://twitter.com/BradCabana
Someone turned me onto him last night. A few others too....Good stuff.
I just want the truth and trying to post/show what we get fed here in the states....
Here are some more another poster placed out there....
https://twitter.com/BradCabana
https://twitter.com/Steiner1776
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/
http://en.voicesevas.ru/
Did these guys report live on the leaked Jlaw pics?
Some of them decided to break agreement for conditions to leave weapons and armor behind intact
and leave thru corridor.
They destroyed some equipment and manned the rest and made a fighting run for it. Didn't work......
Just displaying the level of propaganda I think. And well done.
Thank you....
Reuters is the Red Shield news company. They have been for about 200 years.
Freddie, I am somewhat surprised at how pervasively and blatantly the "established" news organs - and the individual "reporters" are so rapidly and transparently discrediting themselves in an ever-widening array of topics these past several months (years?).
How many few dozens of people are still watching CNN today?
Maybe there is some reason to hold out hope for the future after all ...
Cantor getting his fucking ass kicked - despite outspending his opponent 20 to 1 may portend some sea change in this country.
Why would the Russians want to do this? It's illogical.
If it makes no sense strategically, then maybe it didn't happen.
Most of the comments said the same thing...What does this do for them? Answer? Nothing. It's horseshit which seems to be spewing from the Ukes mouthes.
*RUSSIA SHIFTED TO `FULL-SCALE' INVASION OF DONBAS, GELETEY SAYS
But this time we mean it honest, double swear.
I wonder if Russia invaded a neighbour "full-scale" if satellites would pick up armoured and artillery columns? Or would they be super duper stealth like ISIS was when they had the white stealth Toyota pickups column that invaded Northern Iraq?
if they had invaded full-scale it would already be over in the donbass and the junta army running away as fast as possible discarding their uniforms.
"white stealth Toyota pickups"
Don't underestimate these.
SPX 2075 by Friday!
Time for democrats to remove Obama from the office.
time to remove majority of the senate, president as well as the criminal Fed. Rep/Dem are the same.
Hopefully the Army will step up to their responsibility soon.
Time to raze Vichy DC.
If they do not, I am afraid there will be a miscalculation and there will be a nuclear exchange.
If there was ever a need for a 'president' to be made to step down, it is NOW.
He needs to go. Americans do not need to die for this POS.
So Biden takes over the button and red phone?
Hilarious
I agree but since when did the "elites" listen to us? We're just cannon fodder.
Stupid Ukies could not beat a rag-tag militia but they are gearing up to stop the RUSSIANS?
just retarded, (do they get military advice from the Poles?)
Stop the Russians doing what exactly ?
Medvedev: "Vlad, maybe 5000 ZATO troops! Hold me!"
Vlad: "It is not manly. Are you scared?"
"Yes, of laughing myself to death."
"I think the Americans need to remove their homosexual dicktaster and his Termites."
The Pentagon has had "military advisors" helping Kiev wage war against E. Ukraine for well over a month.
The CIA has been "assisting" since the overthrow of the elected Ukraine government.
"just retarded, (do they get military advice from the Poles?)"
As a matter of fact, yes, they do
Here, you can see how it worked out for the infamous Aidar Battalion.
NATO does those exercises on a regular basis. I participated in some of them years ago. The most disorganized mess I have ever seen. No one seemed to know what we were supposed to do. Afterwards I was briefed that I was not allowed to divulge the details to anyone because the information was secret. When I asked just what in particular was secret, I was told that if they told me they would have to put me in jail. Not kidding. I almost laughed out loud. It might be better today but I doubt it.
Meanwhile, voices from the past echo regarding the results of "entangling alliances" and avoiding the perennial European wars. NATO is not loaded for bear hunting.
meanwhile israel just grabbed 1000 acres of palestinian land...which means we are going to sanction israel and threaten them with war right...RIGHT??
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/31/israel-west-bank_n_5745498.html
B-b-b-but the Palestinians are raghead terrorists who attack Israel for n-n-n-n-no reason!
The Jooooos are at it again! No matter what is going on in the world... the Jooos the Jooos the scary Jooos!
You don't say.
One of my tomato plants got shit on by a bird, and the strange thing was, the stain looked like a star of david.
Next day the plant went brown and withered, not implying anything, but...
/
"Hello?"
"Bath House, we have a cunning plan. We are going to war with Russia."
"Err, uhh, won't that mean Nuclear Weapons?!"
"Yes, but you will be in a mile-deep bunker. With a putting green."
"Umm, err, OK."
When you know the most corrupt government(s) that run the World's market(s) are hanging by a fucking thread...
Will it be the worst market crash ever first?... Followed by the worst World War ever second?... Or vice versa?...
Decisions?... Decisions?...
What this actually means is "we got our arses kicked and don't have the strength to push the enemy back right now".
That about sums it up. At the same time pass the buck implying NATO should do something instead of them.
Also, using italics for some reason disables voting.
It's not italics, but the "Blockquote" option at the beginning of a post that disables voting. To overcome that problem and upvote, highlight the guy's name and then hit tab 3 times, then hit enter. To downvote, hit tab 2 times (or view the status bar when you hit tab, and look for either a 1 (upvote) or -1 (downvote)).
It worked :-)
I feel like i am watching a class on the SUN TZU Art of War, speaking of art of war ...military strategy to me would suggest the main event will begin in the dead of winter when moral is at its lowest for the ukranians. Putin is giving the Ukrainian "president" plenty of time to make a decision, also dont think that Russian influence is mainly at the border im pretty sure there are operatives in KIEV.
johnmack ... as per your 'operatives in Kiev' comment, there are some very good reasons to plausibly explain Yanukoviych's fleeing Kiev immediately following the coup.
With all the potential scenarios being rolled out (russia seeking a land bridge to Crimea, Russia attempting to incorporate all the lands bordering the Black Sea, etc.), I have yet to see mention the admittedly ludicrous-sounding option of restoring some semblance of a then-legitimately elected Yanukovych led government.
At the very least, an observer has to recognize the differences in status between a Gadaffi and Hussein type demise (one executed after a rifle butt shoved up his ass, the other with - supposedly - his head being severed after his being hung), and Yanukovych sitting ensconced in a faraway dacha watching events.
Great Game level stuff. Interesting times indeed.
No what it means is that Ukraine learned from their Polish neighbors in the last war. Try to hold everything at once and you hold onto nothing in the end. Mobile forces in strength is the only way to stop the Russians and what they are doing. By keeping the number of russian armor and mechanized units small you can easily turn battles with plausible deniability of forces in action.
No what it means is that Ukraine learned nothing.
To me the sad part is that every time I keep thinking things will simmer down, I then realise USA and Europe are in such a dire economic state, they have nothing to lose from engaging in war.
So many pro- Ukrainians supporters in various forums and websites are so blindly confident that China would not actually support Russia militarily if push comes to shove. I dont know but at the very least, Russia ‘s other strategic ally Iran would carry out its threat of blocking the Strait of Hormuz. They have already said, not a single drop of oil will pass out of the channel (not that Russia cares about that). But how are these warmongers in Europe and America going to survive without plentiful and cheap oil?
obama .... liar with no balls .....no WAR
the liar in chief has told 827 lies (last count) ....... so ukraine , go ahead and think you will get western support... good luck
http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/