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Where Do ISIS Fighters Come From?

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Everywhere...

Welcome To The New Normal Crusades...

 

Source: The Economist

 

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Mon, 09/01/2014 - 16:12 | 5168643 NoTTD
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Moron.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:15 | 5168834 Grouchy Marx
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Do you have first hand evidence? Perhaps it was you who was beheaded? 

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:11 | 5168459 Stinko da Munk
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I'm surprised by Libya. I thought they were all busy at the pool party at Club Hillary's place.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:22 | 5168499 Prince Eugene o...
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The taggers definitely know what the Qur'an states about Jesus Of Nazareth — and It ain't good for Christians or Christianity! The priests at Saint Bartholomew's said they've been contacted by members of the local Muslim community in Columbus who have condemned the vandalism and offered to help clean it up.  So will Muslims ever get around to cleaning up what the Qur'an says about non-believers and apostates?

http://tinyurl.com/kmpjcsc

Unlike the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence like Qur'an 3:151 are open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text.  They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur'an.

“Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority” Qur'an 3:151

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:35 | 5169442 Ginsengbull
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They believe that Jesus was a Prophet, and a Muslim.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:01 | 5170276 Leraconteur
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Islam is like Mandarin - in order to understand it, you have to understand it first.

The Qúran is printed in length of chapter order. The actual chronological order of the sura is different, and the order they were written matters. The ones written last take preference over the ones written first (when an Islamic scholar looks to decide).

Take a wild guess which ones are older?

Yep. All of the ones written later in his life after decades of conquest, invasion, and killing. Kill. Kill. Kill.

Islam has never had a Reformation, wherein ""The Word of God"" was made allegorical and no longer literal, and all the violence re-interpreted by a post-Enlightenment academia. Since the Islamic world never HAD an Enlightenment, no re-interpretation, and thus you get these constant whackjobs appearing over the centuries, killing as they go.

Most here on ZH think this is all due to the British Empire carving up that part of the world and the USA angering the natives, and it isn't. They have been doing this for a VERY long time.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:49 | 5168587 thamnosma
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Only a matter of time before they focus on Jordan.  If any of the islamic militias now controlling Tripoli join in a pact, the Caliphate will have a western component.  They won't get Egypt, but could also grab parts of Algeria and sub-Saharan Africa.   Hell, maybe they can grab part of Spain.   Chaos reigns.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:56 | 5169486 GrandPaFred
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throw in Pakistan and get free atomic bombs

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:50 | 5168592 directaction
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Zero from Syria? Uh ... okay.

Something's not right about these numbers.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:57 | 5168609 thamnosma
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First, I'm absolutely certain these figures are a crock of shit.

However, re: Syria, I believe they are viewing Syrian and Iraqi ISIS fighters as "locals" not foreigners.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 15:56 | 5168606 Canucklehead
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These Economist numbers remind me of the Chinese GDP numbers.

So, the Economist journalists didn't get beheaded during the course of their indepth interviews with the leaders of ISIS?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 16:10 | 5168638 NoTTD
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Merely proves the widespread nature of the Muslim threat to civilization.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 18:52 | 5169183 bilejones
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S0 the US should be safe then.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 16:14 | 5168654 Smerf
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Average age: 25
Income: none
Religion: Islam, kinda, here and there
IQ: below average
Home: any urban center with high speed internet.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 16:24 | 5168678 Super Hans
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These converts must have some personality disorder; I'm trying to think what it could be?  Maybe BPD?  I don't get it, Rememeber that Boston bomber wife?; she is still at it and I guess just had a kid from some other Muslim.  Did you hear about that other British woman that is now over there in Syria? I gues she found some Jihadi lover, and fled with him.  I don't get the attraction.; not sure that I could even reach and maintain a woody she is so ugly.  

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:36 | 5168909 Arnold
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A guy in uniform is simply  irresistible I hear.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:05 | 5168803 Rootin' for Putin
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Im sure if you found the number of immigrants from muslim shitholes for each country and compared it to this chart there would be a direct correlation.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:27 | 5168867 alexcojones
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Yes, but can ISIS get a soccer team ready for

World Cup 2018 in Russia?

 

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:29 | 5168873 orangegeek
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ISIS makes for great live targets for the US to test new technology

 

Drones and DARPA bots and precision take out weapons to name a few.

 

Tired of these staged events - even if they are nuisance low IQ gnats.

 

Just tools for gubbamints to be more dictatorial.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:07 | 5169514 GrandPaFred
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USA will go broke at current rate - spending a million dollars per destroyed Toyata pickup.

 

Last MSM video I watched showed a F-18 take off from a carrier, target a pickup parked

along side a dirt road with two guys having a leak beside it.  Bang - game over...

 

Back to carrier with smiles of mission accomplished - we showed them suckers who's boss!

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:29 | 5168883 Grouchy Marx
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Where are the Swiss?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 18:53 | 5169180 bilejones
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At home, happily making money in Switzerland.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:30 | 5168888 alexcojones
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If a married ISIS from Belgium or the USA get killed,

does his wife and kids get ETB and Aid to dependent jihadists?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:32 | 5168897 withglee
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How in the world are such numbers obtained? I wouldn't be able to find out which high school the police force of my little town came from.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:28 | 5169427 Ginsengbull
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You are assuming they went to high school.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:20 | 5172104 Otto Zitte
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TPTB got it from HR.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:34 | 5168904 indio007
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An ISIS census? Somehow I doubt it.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:38 | 5168920 kwatinhu
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If any of this Data is supplied by any government enitity the it is already suspect. I don't know of anyone who works in the government who has a clue abut the real world. Then factor in all the lying, and mis- information , and pure bull shit they thin you will believe and it is automatically disregarded as being of any value.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:51 | 5168980 I Drink Your Mi...
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Who the fuck is gullibale enough to believe this shite?

I'm sure CNN & Co. will be parroting this drivel in no time.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 01:30 | 5170153 Leraconteur
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Anyone who knows history.

They have been doing the same things since AD640.

Do you know how long ago that it?

It means that this behaviour predates all of the conspiracy groups you attempt to blame it on. It predates WW2, WW1, the USA, the colonisation of the western hemisphere by Europeans, the Enlightenment, all of the European Renaissances, all of the music, art and literature that you know (unless your library is full of Classical Latin and Classical Greek texts), the formation of Europe as a collection of nation/city states, the formation of the UK, the UNIFICATION of the British Isles, the British Monarchy, the English Language in its entirety, the invasion and conquest of China by the Tibetans.

It is a very long time, and they have been doing the same since Day 1. First thing Mohammed did was move from Medinah to Meccah, and a few months later he began a blood thirsty warlord campaign. Then Islam conquered or converted by the sword - identical techniques IS are using - all of North Africa, Moorish Europe, Central Asia, Caspian Seas, the Gulf, Black Seas. Always in the presence of a large standing army.

Always.

So when they showed up and ''requested or asked"" that the locals convert, you do understand that it was NOT a question...correct?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 18:26 | 5169097 Kelley
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That list ads up to about 12,000 or 13,000.

One unnamed honorary member lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

That's why such a pitifully tiny army is so dangerous.

A fleet of A-10's, drones a few miscellaneous other kinds of air support could reduce the number to 100 or less in a couple afternoons IF Obama wanted them gone.

He doesn't. 

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 18:48 | 5169170 bilejones
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"That's why such a pitifully tiny army is so dangerous.:

The US Military numbers about 1.5 million with 800,000 in the reserves, hardly tiny.

The real issue, of course is that they are such a useless bunch of tossers,  the most pathetic "Defense Department" on the face of the Globe?

The clowns who, on half a trillion dollars a year couldn't defend their own headquarters against $12 worth of box cutters?

Those buffoons?

Fire them all and get a troop of cub scouts, they'd do a better job.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:27 | 5169426 Ginsengbull
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The US military could destroy any threat, or combination of threats many times over, with very minimal casualties...

 

if only the pentagon brass would let them, unencumbered by rules of engagement.

 

Remember, Hadji didn't sign the Geneva Conventions.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 03:13 | 5170241 dreadnaught
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DoD?---Theyve been renamed The Ministry of Perpetual War

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 19:34 | 5169281 fibonacci's claus
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labor day!  putins favorite american holiday?  where does labor day come from?  fox news doesn't know.  obama should ask putin where labor day comes from.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 19:36 | 5169288 The Mason
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Just remember when isis, attacks don't lose your head, keep your powder dry, breathe out slowly as you squeeze the trigger. .308 should do it.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:24 | 5169420 Ginsengbull
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.30-06 is even better.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:58 | 5170307 daedon
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And be a patriot, make sure you don't take out a CIA adviser accidentally.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 19:38 | 5169297 netpounder
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If you got no job and are willing/able, go join the ISIS gang and share the stolen oil wealth.  Millions in petrodollars a day to be split up.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:18 | 5169409 q99x2
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Arrest the Western oligarchs/banksters haul them into jails for prosecution. They are obviously demented psychopaths.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:14 | 5169540 GrandPaFred
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your being to kind my friend...

I'd just turn them over to the jhadists at no charge - and then there's no chance of return

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 06:35 | 5170351 Boxed Merlot
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turn them over to the jhadists...

 

 

If they had any sense, they'd reward them.  It's not as though they're any less successful at destroying the fabric of US society or anything.

 

jmo.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:53 | 5169472 are we there yet
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Isis has no females. Except as slaves in bondage with a limited wardrobe. ISIL is Islamic extremist organization number 33 plus that we are told does not represent true Islam. The alphabet Islamic groupes blow up over the years countless planes, busses, tourist areas, night clubs, children schools, kidnappings, torture, beheadings, etc.. They even blow up their own sub denominations. In the end I no longer believe newscasters telling us these killers are not the face of the heart if islam. Islam is a religion of hate and force at its heart to the very center.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:32 | 5169955 Terminus C
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Yep, and your vote counts.

Also, there really is a difference between the red team and the blue team.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 03:11 | 5170239 dreadnaught
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well then go bitch and whine to the CIA about it, pussy lol

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:55 | 5170305 daedon
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Have you ever sat around the TV watching sports with your buddies then suddenly one of them says "hey, why don't you sell your house, I'll sell my car, we'll get all our friends and family together and form a terrorist group" ?

No.  That's because ALL terrorism is state sponsored, always has, always will be. Sponsered = funded, organized, planned, trained, administered, sustained, managed, etc.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 20:57 | 5169491 Ginsengbull
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Bosnians must seem too liberal for Isis.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:29 | 5169590 Notsobadwlad
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Source?

I meand really, did ISIS give a census of their mercenaries ,,, and if so, to whom?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:34 | 5169959 Terminus C
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To whom? Their masters.

This information is just part of the upcoming annual report.

 

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:43 | 5169980 thecrap0n
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I was wondering the same thing. If ISIS really is what they claim it is, it would be impossible for such a census to take place.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 22:12 | 5169740 Leraconteur
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EU immigration policy is paying off.

How is that PC touchy-feeley tolerance of Malmo rape gangs working for you now?

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:04 | 5169903 Blood Spattered...
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Does this drivel still rile up the sheep?  Like CD asked, is there a terrorist census?  How can anyone with half a brain accept this as factual?

What's concerning is the trumping up of ISIS because surely there's another false flag around the corner.  'mericans have a high tolerance towards death and destruction. The next shit will have to be nuclear for the desired effect.  

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:36 | 5169964 Terminus C
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Most of the sheeple will accept this and use this 'information' as a call to arms and for further reductions to our freedoms.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:08 | 5169905 Wahooo
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25 nations aligned against us? We're not going to win - whatever that means.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:12 | 5169919 coast
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the chart says "per million"...which means that since the U.S. has 300 million, you would

multiply 70 and 300??    21,000????? 

 Also, look up the Soufan Group that put this chart out....They are totally controlled, and they

blame Russia for everything.....DO not even bother believing this shyte.   How many of you actually

looked up the soufan group?   How many just believe the chart/graph?  I need to start my own website

but I simply dont have the time.  Too many websites will not do the research before posting something.

I have a few contacts I can trust somewhat...Jim WIllie, Dr Paul Craig Roberts and a couple others.

The soufan group is totally owned and controlled by the globalists...Propaganda to the max.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:37 | 5169967 Terminus C
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No.

Read the chart again.

You are correct that it is propaganda, blatant and arrogantly in our face rediculous, but you misunderstood the math.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:47 | 5170297 daedon
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Per million population, simple enough.  70 per million means 70 per million.

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:18 | 5169928 coast
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ISIS is nothing more than alCIAda on steroids...New and improved brand.  And there is no way to know how many, as I mentioned,

this is all propaganda...

Mon, 09/01/2014 - 23:59 | 5170011 Son of Captain Nemo
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After losing 14,000 of them alone in Ukraine and probably the same or more in Syria, the U.S., Israel, U.K. better find more money and "bodies" for the challenges they face ahead...

Somethin tells me the places they need to worry about the most are less than 100 meters from the front doors of their offices and homes!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 00:03 | 5170021 andrewp111
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If ISIS gains a seaport in Syria, it will be able to import hundreds of thousands of men and boys from Gaza.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 00:29 | 5170072 fencejumper
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Interesting video: The Covert Origins of ISIS

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vh...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 08:00 | 5170451 SmallerGovNow2
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awesome...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 10:52 | 5171048 Prince Eugene o...
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The commentary explores U.S. involvement in the “Arab spring” proxy wars while avoiding any mention of the Muslim imperative.

No authoritative, canonical arguments can support any claim that Islam has been hijacked.  tinyurl.com/mkef93n

Jihadists routinely quote chapter and verse of Islamic texts in support of their violence. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:12 | 5171441 bombdog
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"No authoritative, canonical arguments can support any claim that Islam has been hijacked."

No I guess not, I suppose all along the CIA and the colonial powers that pre-date the CIA, the tactics of low intesity conflict were something else, they were not in fact arming and aiding extremist elements, must have been something else entirely. The mujahadeen were not trained and funded by the CIA in Afghanistan - this fanaticism is just peculiar to Muslims. The rise of religious fanaticism is not related to poverty and disposession, but is some kind of genetic defect in semitic peoples. /sarc

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 01:28 | 5170158 JailBanksters
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Wrong Question.

The better question would be Why did the US support them in Syria ?

Once you get the answer to this, then everything will just fall into place.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 03:08 | 5170237 fredquimby
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...And Switzerland, the only country to ban minarets, isn't on the list. Weird.

 

 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:14 | 5170283 Space Animatoltipap
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isis Fighters??? isis Dull headed coward barbarians. Of course.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 04:37 | 5170292 Der Kaufmann
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Well, guys this is about Syria only and this is about foreign fighter. There's no information about the group they're fighting in. Free Syrian Army? Al-Qaida affiliate and ISIS enemy Al Nusra Front? Kurdish groups? Arab nationalist groups? There are so many groups fighting in Syria, this chart is unable to say anything but foreign participation. No reason to believe Assad propaganda now. Because in the Balkan wars, there were many foreign fighters, especially former Mujahideen from Afghanistan.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:02 | 5171650 bombdog
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Assad propaganda? He's conquered "The Economist" magazine no less... formerly the most blatant zionist news publication I ever read.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 05:00 | 5170309 farmboy
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everywhere but with a large degree in percentage from the most socialistic countries with free benefits for all like : Norway, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands and France. 

Hmm how come ?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 06:30 | 5170348 ChooChoo
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You don't see Greece in there.... that's cause we are stupid... we arent that stupid...

OR 

we keep our stupidity strictly on elections for we not run out of it in the actual pressing matters :p

Im quite confused on what is the real deal with us ;D  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 07:20 | 5170386 God is The Son
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ISIS is nothing but CIA Merc's. The Western Regime used western troops to their dirty work, then it was contractors like BlackWater now you have AL-Nursa, ISIS. People just need to face the facts. NATO were bombing Liybian Military while ISIS was on ground doing ground operations then You had Syria with Western Regime cheering leading Islamic Mercs/aka Isis. Then all of sudden you have Iraq and Obama and his Regime Cronies stat they now the enemy, ha ha ha I don't think so. More like their allies for their forgein policy objectives.

The West didn't give two shits about the palastians, and they certinily didn't give two shits when ISIS their Merc army are running around killing everything in site in Northern Iraq.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 08:46 | 5170537 esum
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The REAL players never go to Langley or anywhere near it... Langley is a hotbed for fatass, lazy, useless chocolate eating paperpushers and analysts who spend their day with one hand on the keyboard and the other stroking themselves...for 20+years and then retire.. having produced nothing worth a shit....plus 5000 lawyers who scrutinize intel ops for PC adherence (not kidding...) by the time a langley lawyer signs off on something you could send mary poppins to do the job. Brennan is a stupid incompetent asskissing piece of shit who gave away IRAQ and he and obumbler policy led directly to the arab spring and undercutting of sectarian leaders across the board, ally or not... and ISIS. 

Langley used to be an ivy league hangout that had and used high level intel contacts, sources and produced useful information. Of course the person in the white house has to act on it or it is useless.... (like the current occupant of the white house and vallery jarrett... who runs the political show).. He prefers CNN to daily intel briefs that go unread except by his muslim brotherhood advisors... wonder why the hostage mission failed... dont wonder anymore.. wonder why the consulate was attacked in benghazi.... wonder how the seals got shot down... leaks from the white house and advisors... 

Now Langleyis run by libtards who produce nothing and let thier political emotions color the "intel"... and analysts, not operators, run the show... like the saying "the asshole runs the body" well assholes run the agency. Brennan never did and op in his life nor did Morell. They cowtow to the whims of the white house, editing and altering the facts to meet political needs (benghazi for example).. they are political puppets.(and get rewarded with "jobs" afterwards.. leaving a mess behind)

Couple this with the totally useless DNI which is just another layer of useless bureaucrats marking time and performing no useful function 30,000 or them..... this useless agency was created by the coverup 9/11 commission.... grow the govt to show the people action... vs real action... more humint... boots on the gorund...

Keep in mind the role of the Langley crew has been encroached upon by the pentagon, nsa and state (dumb bitches) and the FBI (cant connect the dots)....and the white ouse itself... all wannabe spooks with no skills and shitting all over the place with amateur hour scenarios that blowback... think boston bombers for example... think benghazi for another ... think arab spring for another... think ukraine.. think the entire arab spring.... The real jerkoff ops are being conceived and run by brennan and obumbler bypassing langely using others... academi... greystone.... whatever they fashion to call themselves as the need be.. talk about offshore inversions... how much kicksback to how many generals, congressmen and lobbyists... a fortune...

Langley never gets to speak publicly so it is used by obumbler to blame for his personal failures. ISIS could have been taken out long ago had this piece of shit acted on intel which has a shelf life.... and its not months.. the hostage could have been rescued... benghazi could have been avoided.... but golf and fundraising take precedence.... 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:20 | 5172093 Otto Zitte
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Map to the H1B roadkills

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:56 | 5173174 farco
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ISIS is the new Gladius Operation (for those who knows what I'm talking about)

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