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US Troops Are Heading To Ukraine
While only 'humanitarian adviser' boots on the ground are present in Iraq (and Syria), Reuters reports that preparations are under way near Ukraine's western border for a joint military exercise this month with more than 1,000 troops from the United States and its allies. As Obama told reporters last week, "that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming," it seems a little odd 'strategically' to go ahead with the Rapid Trident exercise Sept. 16-26 as a sign of the commitment of NATO states to support non-NATO member Ukraine, entailing the first significant deployment of U.S. and other personnel to Ukraine since the crisis erupted.
As fighting between the army and Russian-backed rebels rages in eastern Ukraine, preparations are under way near its western border for a joint military exercise this month with more than 1,000 troops from the United States and its allies.
The decision to go ahead with the Rapid Trident exercise Sept. 16-26 is seen as a sign of the commitment of NATO states to support non-NATO member Ukraine while stopping well short of military intervention in the conflict.
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"At the moment, we are still planning for (the exercise) to go ahead," U.S. Navy Captain Gregory Hicks, spokesman for the U.S. Army's European Command said on Tuesday.
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But Rapid Trident will entail the first significant deployment of U.S. and other personnel to Ukraine since the crisis erupted.
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"It is very important to understand that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming," Obama told reporters at the White House last week.
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The United States European Command (EUCOM) says the exercise this month will involve about 200 U.S. personnel as well as 1,100 others from Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Britain, Canada, Georgia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Norway, Poland, Romania and Spain.
Focused on peacekeeping, it will include command post drills, patrolling and dealing with improvised explosive devices.
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Sounds like de-escalation to us... buy moar stocks.
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You are exactly right. I failed to word it properly.
Everything you are mentioning was *so* true - thirty years ago. Today, not so much. To get a clue, check out the Iskander and/or the X-37B. Or "hypersonic cruise missile".
If there is a real hot war, expect the following: Weapons which were supposedly years away and on the drawing board will show up as operational, followed by stuff beyond your wildest nightmares.
The US thinks that money equals fabulous weapons. It doesn't. What equals fabulous weapons is brainpower, not money. The US Deep State MIC is certainly a mixed blessing if the F22 and F35 are any indication. Russia is blessed with really good chess players who don't have enough money to build really expensive weapons. The result in WWII was the T34, the Sturmovik and the early GRAD, later the AK47 and the MiG15, now the Iskander, the Shval and the Kornet. All of these are first rate weapons, and I'm sure there are a lot more we haven't found out about yet...
As for Subs, I worked in ASW for many years. The skuttlebut was that all the leading edge techniques we were into for finding subs were all ideas ... stolen from the Russians.
X-37B? Good call. I haven't checked on that project in quite some time. I know Russians were working on a similar design in early 90's supposedly for Mars exploration. The US counterpart, everyone assumed, was to replace the aging Space Shuttle. Reading the wiki, I now know that it not only became operational, but had and entirely different application in mind.
I was also suprised to find out recently that Russian supersonic torpedos, that I though were abandoned RND projects, actually made it to mass market... well, not to retail. Russia, just like the US, keeps the best toys for itself and only sells weapons it can easily counter to allies (Syria and Iran).
The ultimate way to pay back the Zio-Cons is to make their home disappear and the rest radioactive for 10,000 years.
The F-35 is junk. This is according to Pierre Sprey who helped design the F-16 and A-10. Total trash and the software still is not ready. The F-22 is not much better. Sprey says stealth is a scam, too. Pierre Sprey said an old Mig 21 would grease any F-35 because the F-35 cannot turn plus has many other problems.
Sprey is lovid because the planes are so expensive and are terrible. The USA is making a lot of expensive junk. American soldiers were often outfitted with untested or defective junk.
As far as brain power, a lot of missilies and weapons systems now rely heavily on software. The Russians are among the best programmers in the world. The USA has good ones but most do not want to work at defense companies. So you get a lot of H1B's from India and China. The F-35's software is a mess and is still not ready. Also, loads of US weapons systems have open market and grey market junk chinese components that slipped through the cracks.
ICBMs are not slow. When those warheads are coming in, they're coming in at speeds of Mach 15-20 or so. If you want to see what we thought was required to intercept incoming warheads back in the day, look up the sprints and the Spartans (missiles.) Their acceleration is extreme too. It would take about 30 minutes for an ICBM in Montana to make it to Moscow. Our primary ICBM is the Minute Man III, which has multiple warhead options, including the W87. It is MIRVed with up to three warheads. We used to have the LGM 118 Peacekeeper, which was MIRVed with up to 10 warheads, but one of the START treaties nixed that. It scared the hell out of the Soviets.
And you should look at what Russia has been doing with its nuclear arsenal. They haven't relied on brute force for a while. Their SS18s no longer have 20MT warheads on them. Their forces look a lot more similar to ours now. The largest warhead that they have on their ICBMs/SLBMs is 800kt. Big, yes, but not like what they used to use.
Edit: It's hard to get a sense of how fast they're actually going in the video, but to put the video in perspective, the Minuteman is 60 feet tall. The launch starts a bit after 3:00.
http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675053259_LGM-30-Minuteman-missile_f...
Thanks for the info. My understanding of the situation is clearly inadequate as it is based on outdated memories. I've got some catching up to do.
and along tags NATO who think their big enough to kick the Russian Bear in the nuts.
They'll not only get their head and arms ripped off, but will find there's no home left
to return to. Won't take hours for nukes to reach them - it's minutes....
Double tap.
UMMM russia has nuclear submarines
what do you think the russiks been doin' all these years up there on those space stations virtually by themselves? we (west) would be luckie to get a couple dozen hits on them in a land area 3 times anyone else on the planet. also, they got a lot of survivability (including mfg) underground far exceeding anyone else - something they learned in WW11 in case they had to draw hitler almost into siberia.
don't underestimate putin. he's smarter than anything we got.
Putin isn't smarter than anything we've got- he's smarter than anything we've got in charge.
The only way to win a nuclear war is to not be in it...
Mutant Australians would re-populate the Earth.
Don't go there. Please.
what's that? Us New Zealanders will chase anything that moves - come here love....
"Don't be Sheepish" ! !
Seeing what comes through our (Aussie Hospital) doors these days, "we'd not be needing any of that irradiation" to produce our own particularly Bogan version of Aussie Mutants . . . .
You didn't mention space weapons. We don't know what anyone has up there.
And nuke plants in the US? If I were an enemy of the US, and there's lots of them, with more every day, I'd put two dozen nukes down the throat of Old Faithful and blow that volcano. That would destroy North America pretty quick.
Ebola's going to kill half the planet soon enough, including anyone remotely capable of preventing a nuke plant from losing cooling and blowing.
Now, if the Russians and the Chinese thought that Ebola (patented) was a weapon, what do they care about blowing Yellowstone sky high?
Pompeii x1,000,000,000, bitchez.
It's now the world against inbred psychopaths - nothing more.
Your analysis leave out one crucial element in Russia's favor. Winter is Russia's greatest strategic asset.
Never underestimate the Russians. Unlike us, they are capable of thinking beyond the next news cycle.
"The hope is.." My ass!!! Personally, I am done with these delusional Neocons. It's time to take away the keys.
That is why we are secretly for Global Warming. Takes away their advantage.
By the way, winter is not the greatest asset. It is sheer size. Winter is a complication. Germany conquered Norway rather easily and winters are rough there. Winter is a complication mostly for the invader. However, it was a partial asset in the Battle of the Bulge for Germany.
M.A.D. It won't happen as nobody wants to lose it all. They came close during the Cold War but M.A.D. prevented the unthinkable.
If you really must have a nuclear war ... and your enemy has some sort of shield... how about nuking other non-participants?
I'm thinking that you could target reactors and such-like, from all over the world, thus assuring that the eventual "victor" will prolong his life only by a matter of weeks.
Kinda like "On the Beach".
It's a desperate strategy, but, when you have nothing left to lose ...
"How it will end."
Nothin' says "get up and serve 'muh country" like killin' babies and garrotting pregnant women...while you rape 'em! Then set 'em on fire!!!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaa! AmeriKKKa, FUCK YEAH!
This is surreal.
The Luciferian Oligarchs are getting what they want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
Make prepartations now, these are still the opening shots. Maybe 5-7 years until Russia/China has their newer weapons online. It will be a first strike on the US.
Maybe people will wake up beforehand, but in case not be ready.
More if your interested:
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
Optimist. Unfortunately, chaos isn't so precise.
5-7 years? I don't think we have 5-7 MONTHS.
Its now ,or never for Pax Americana.
Well everything turned out so well in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, anad Libya that DC figures Ukraine will be just as successful.
Thanks for the laugh. Humor is good in bleak times.
MOTHERFU&*ER!!!! Now I have to make the old Battle of Stalingrad documentaries available to all the kids, asking them to note the parts where the women and kids are digging the foxholes whilst the men fight to the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-LZKo74VGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAsXB73TXSc
OH FYI
Joel Skousen feels the tripping point for the nuclear part of WWIII will be N. Korea invation of S. Korea. I believe he is correct. So watch for that.
Joel Skousen is a good resource for SHTF planning. But as an authority in "Geopolitics" I'd rate him pretty low; maybe as good as Tom Brokaw, maybe not.
Georgia Guidestones...
*snicker*
Some goof pays for rocks to be carved with some hippy shit and now they're like, dude...heavy stuff.
They found roach clips made from whale bones at Stonehenge too.
You must think you and your family are on the list for the Ebola vaccine.
Good luck.
By "goof" I assume you mean Ted Turner, honorary member of the .01%
Is anyone as old as me and remember when Turner was first starting out in Atlanta and his politics were simple Southern conservative? Then do you remember how quickly he started to tow the US Deep State line once TBS and CNN hit the big time??
A younger me was amazed and enlightened about how things really work through seeing the amazing transformation of Ted Turner. Of course, he got to poke Jane Fonda as a reward for his treachery to his previous beliefs.
On a related note, just so you'll know what time it is. A few months ago I read about Ted Turner down in Argentina (being operated on for something).
Why is he spending so much time down there these days?
It would be interesting to know how many western contractors and proxies are operating in the region ALREADY. Remember that the snipers in Maidan were outsiders, sent there to shoot both sides and foment civil unrest. Heaven knows what else the psychopaths have been doing, but Victoria Nuland confirmed back in April that FIVE BILLLION DOLLARS had already been spent BY THAT TIME. Let's consider that. FIVE BILLION DOLLARS constitute some fairly significant black operations, not to mention whatever bribes were used to assemble the puppet junta and the payroll for thugs who beat up parliamentarians who voiced objections. Large scale organized crime is expensive.
Reminds me of this joke: Crime is already organized. Next the police.
Re that $5 billion:
The following post describes the experience of one of the Anti-Maiden organizers. She reports that the Mainden protestors were paid $160 per day to show up and be part of a "protest" against the existing government. From her description of events it si clear that the "protest" consisted for the most part of all the homeless from across Kiev.
$160 USD per day is equivalent to one months average Ukrainian earnings.
If you threw a petrol bomb you earned a further $50. If you fired a rifle you earned $1,000. So the snioer killings of both police and protestors earned someone around $37,000 for one days "work."
Question is who footed the bill for this. Who has the capacity to print FRNs like there is no tomorrow and turn those FRNs into a political movement that otherthrows a democraticllly elected government?
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/01/when-anti-maidan-was-destroyed-i-fled-from-kiev/
Fascinating. Anecdotal, but fascinating.
CIA and have heard Soros has some loose change available
double
There are lots of mercenaries and volunteers from other countries on both sides. A couple Spaniards fighting for the rebels made a video advocating their cause; some Swedes are supposedly fighting for Ukraine, as well as the usual mercenaries like Academi or whoever they are this week.
"It is very important to understand that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming," Obama told reporters at the White House last week.
IBID: “"It is very important to understand that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming for the Rebels. It will be forthcoming for the US and NATO, but not for Putin and his Rebels"
You have to keep an ear out for unfinished or redacted sentences. Then it all makes sense.
Nothin' says "get up and serve 'muh country" like killin' babies and garrotting pregnant women...while you rape 'em! Then set 'em on fire!!!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaa! AmeriKKKa, FUCK YEAH!
Nothin' says "get up and serve 'muh country" like killin' babies and garrotting pregnant women...while you rape 'em! Then set 'em on fire!!!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaa! AmeriKKKa, FUCK YEAH!
Must.Defend.PetroDollar.At.All.Costs.
Who woulda thunk?........................
Correction:
Must.Destroy.PetroDollar.At.All.Costs.
Who woulda thunk?........................
"We're just goiing to kill the dollar."
They forgot to mention the contigent from Mauretania and some unidentified extraterrestrials in these 1000.
Putin beam me up there is no intelligent life down here.
I'm sure Putin is aware of this; and finds it very amusing; as do I.
The strategy should be to have Wanted Dead or Alive posters of Biden's son plastered all over the Ukraine with a reward.
Hey, you can't blame them for going there to scope out their ROI.
It's classic strategy. You put them in harm's way; then if they manage to stumble into something, the propaganda organs go full blast, "you killed our citzen!!", etc. etc. Very well known.
1,000 troops = 'tripwire'
They'll go to Kiev..."shore up defenses."
Also there's a plan for rotating troops in and out. That says to me "long haul." Of course there are always people who love this stuff so they'll have a stay cation there too as well.
Ok, Troops... Remember to get the order right and to load the right Apps, before you go into Holloday Mode...
It's... "Boots & Pants, 'n boots & pants"
They're going there to keep the Academi (aka Blackwater/Xe) forces company.
Errrr...Canada is in EUCOM?
What we all "really need" is not what the Oligarchy really needs, so don't hold your breath.
War is easier. Stupid is always easier.
Obama reversed himself real quick once it was found out they had allowed petrogold to happen. It's getting harder and harder for them to maintain the market. They are trying everything they can to goad Russia so they can say it was Russias fault that the dollar imploded or the economy imploded. They don't necessarily want a battle, but an incident that they can use to allow the bubble to burst and someone else to blame.
Former libtalker/ peddler of fake Obama "presidential coins" Montel Williams begs president to provide leadership:
http://tinyurl.com/krho8se
Maybe.
http://rt.com/news/184716-poroshenko-ceasefire-ukraine-putin/
to think, black sabbath and Ozzy O. showed more insight and understanding than just about every politician in the western world:
"Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds... Oh Lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'till their Judgment day comes, yeah!
Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs of the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of Judgment, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
Oh Lord yeah!"
war pigs
Bass player Geezer Butler wrote the song not Ozzy. Ozzy is married to a shrill enertainment tribe member. He was not really the talent in Black Sabbath. Geezer and guitarist Tony Iommi are.
true that Geezer wrote the lyrics for most songs, but i would disagree that Ozzy had no talent. you could argue the contrary, that he got assigned his wife to make sure he was kept on a leash. even still, some of the lyrics of his later solo efforts showed some of the same themes as early black sabbath stuff. but there is little doubt that the industry, and/or his wife, flipped him to the dark side eventually...
And everyone gives the guy a hard time for a being a drunk/drug addict. I ask what would you do if that witch was your wife? I would've OD'd by now...
GZR didn't do well. Tony's solo albums paid the rent, but no arena tours. Bill's still a drunk.
Ozzy, well, a decade of Ozzfest, millions of solo albums sold, a TV show that paid more than anyone else was earning, being tested in the UK for 'superior genes' when he should be dead, yeah, he's a fuckin' loser.
This is a finance site, he's the one that made all the money, he didn't kill Africans to do it, FFS. Who's the winner in that band? Oh, and he laughs at anyone that believes in Lucifer or all that occult shit.
Unlike some people we know . . .
Although he does snort ants and has a taste for bat meat . . .
I hear Russian troops have just invaded Pripyat. They're all hiding in the basement of a giant concrete dome.
I'd supply photo evidence, but all my pictures came out overexposed for some bizzare reason.
Due to the UFO fly-by.
Any excuse to burn through more dollars will do.
nazi ?
Drudge,,
REPORT: 11 commercial jetliners missing after Islamist takeover of Tripoli airport... Developing...
OHHHHHHHH fuckety fuckit alls! Hold on to your sodas bitchez, physics is about to go on hiatus.
When did it ever come back from the last vacation?
Well, according to some folks (me, you and prolly most folks here at ZH) it never left. Although ever since my early 20's I soon come to realize how people KNEW the Earth was flat, the Sun rotated around it and we are the center of the Universe.
The rest of the world is still waiting for the US military to take over Washington, arrest Obama (and all previous Presidents still living) every Congressman and corporate lobbyist and trial them all for treason, crimes against humanity, fraud, theft, pedophlia and extortion.
Then move onto the criminals in Wall St...
"...treason, crimes against humanity, fraud, theft, pedophlia and extortion."
Who says the generals and admirals are clean?
Damn those warmonger Republicans and Conservatives and TEA Party -
huh?
WHO'S in charge of the country now and WHAT party are they from?
NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! MOVE ALONG!!! HOPE AND CHANGE!! ALL IS WELL!! LOOK! NUDE HOLLYWOOD STARLETS!! MOVE ALONG!!
Let's hope they all come back in body bags. They are filth.
WC:
love your wit - glad to see your still sharp-as-a-tack after all these years... :>)
WC:
Fuck me to tears! Listen you dumb cocksuckers in DC, I don't want to get nuked because you cannot leave shit alone.
Been planned for months. Now they are going to poke the bear with a 2 X 4,
as sticks aren't working.
Planned or not, this is full fucking retard. If we keep on poking until there is a war, it inevetably will lead to a nuclear exchange, and with infrastructure wiped out, even those who are unaffected by the blast, fallout, etc... will find out that whatever paper wealth that they had is meaningless. OTOH, if it doesn't lead to war, the rest of the world is going to pivot away from the US, and all of that paper wealth is going to evaporate.
"...it inevetably will lead to a nuclear exchange..."
That is the goal. Exchange traded nuclear weapons. Imagine the yields....
/s
+1012 for the brilliant use of double entendre gallows humor. Or is that triple entendre? Well done.
Sampson Option here we come. These Megalomanics have got to be stopped at all costs. At all costs.
In my mind, revolution would be a very justifiable response to war with Russia. I'm dead serious about not wanting to get nuked.
CC NSA: Nuclear war is bad for national security.
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They don't care about that. You have to use something which has meaning to them. Here, try this:
CC NSA: Nuclear war means you lose your benefits and pension.
Don't forget about it destroying the infrastructure that they use to spy on everything. Nuclear war = no more spying for you!
I completely agree with your first two sentences, but your last falls on deaf ears, or blind eyes. The NSA has absolutely nothing to do with national defense, as everything since 9/11 has shown.
I'm using their definition of national security, and that is that the state must persist, regardless of what happens to the people. There won't be much of a government if we get glassed.
Ive always wondered. What makes these fucking cunts so special that they get to go around creating reality. Everything from politics to religion to money, everything, they create, only to benefit themselves. When did 17 people in the world get to dictate the entire reality of a globe? Shouldnt we be able to do it? Its not revolution its not propaganda, they are literally creating a reality for us to live in. Fuck them. I want to create a different reality.
War is Not Healthy for Children
and Other Living Things
Last seen on a poster in Berkley during a street march to STOP THE WAR in '66 - probably wouldn't resonate today - when will they ever learn ?
@ El Vaquero,
Your concerns are justified. However, The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Banksters Intelligence Crime Syndicate NSA / CIA / IMF / World Bank / BIS / City of London / Zionist Isreal / UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. are going "all in."
Nothing short of Total Complete Full Spectrum World Domination is going to stop them. We're dealing with Blood Thirsty Megalomanics.
Hence, The Sampson Option.
But not for the NSA complex
Who do you suppose runs the interference for the Criminal Espionage for the aforementioned?
Did you ever wonder how the Sampson Option was supposed to work? What the delivery vehicle would be?
Hint: New York City has detected strange radiation readings around the Israeli consulate:
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/22798.php
How close to you live to an Israeli diplomatic mission?
Easy deterrent: First place to get nuked is Israel.
"this is full fucking retard"
The only way they know how to operate
....call me nostalgic, but I see a silver lining returning to a hunter gatherer lifestyle.
http://www.pitt.edu/~super1/lecture/lec11361/002.htm
One of my favorite Far Sides.
...and if I were to tell you the "archaic revival" is an outcome planned and prepped for you by the same oligarchy you fight, what would you think then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOOw34iv50&list=UU_lvvd3d3K7NgLtWstl6YNg
Not saying your post doesn't have a tinge of truth to it, but the Fabians have been writing about this for over 100 years now. Give people one of two options: Join the new high-tech security state and live a comfortable life, or rough it out in the woods where your lack of technology will be your undoing.
Given that setting up an alternative, underground economic infrastructure outside the City-States is the only way to beat these fuckers, and most people who are informed enough to do so are either very short-sighted or predisposed to the foolish "lone wolf" mentality, I'd say we're trapped rats.
Vaquero,
I answered your question on the other post, it's there if you care to read it.
Thanks. I don't want war, but I fear that we're going to get it, whether we like it or not. Whether it's global or civil is yet to be determined, but that's the state that I see the world as being in. We're in for some hard times and some hard choices.
I'm on the side of the people, against the State.
I'm guessing that's the side you're on in which case I'll share my last clip with you.
Like I've told many before, I'm on my own side. There's too much propaganda out there to simply pick somebody else's side with any clear concience. It sounds like we align pretty well in this.
All because of the toilet paper of record,,the USD. What a way to go...fuck!!! And I had plans for my PM's..
Pardon me for a minute while I get up here next to Slim Pickens.
YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing like throwing gasoline on a fire. So glad I'm not part of Obama's military (or is that an insult to the military)? If so, sorry.
no worries...football season starts on thursday...
and u know thats something that the average amercian is getting really worked up about....
getting the banker controlled sociopath government u deserve....
This letter speaks volumes:
Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War (c/o ZH)
Watch the military for new evidence of dissent in the ranks. Soldiers may be trained to follow orders, but they also have honor, and people of conscience will only suffer so much bullshit.
Hasn't the military been retiring off generals and colonels to remove any threats of dissent within their ranks?
Quite right. Ukraine isn't the only victim of a putsch! Get a load of the lists at this link:
Why Are Dozens Of High Ranking Officers Being Purged From The U.S. Military? (16-Jan)
A true General NEVER retires. Ever. Remember that folks. Something smelly fuckety with this, real fuckety.
Well, given the missing $2 Trillion about which "Runs Geld" Rumsfeld testified in front of Congress one day before 9/11, I.e. on 9/10, that sure leaves a lot of loose change for all kinds of things -- including 'general' pensions.
You think they'll cancel any games due to nuclear exchanges?
No. But instead of preventing the 9/11 attacks that they had warning to, the FBI preoccupies itself by busting Coach Tressell of The Ohio State University over Terell Pryor's tattoo scandal when ESPN and the SEC signed some $2 billion dollar deal with the players themselves can't get a salary for making them so rich.
Nobody seems to understand why I prefer LESS government.
Look at their priorities!
I agree with most of what you said, except T.Pryor got a free ride at a university, he is just to stupid to take advantage of it, he wanted tattoo's and a NFL contract not an education.
Just sayn'
sorry - no refunds
Yup, the next Olympics.
..............what are they doing. Europeans dont want this US/Nato escalation.
Europeans don't want it? I'm an American and I don't want this shit.
Canadians don't either. The sycophancy of our politicians is shameful.
I'm listening to major news network CTV right now. Jeremy Kinsman, former ambassador to EU, is claiming huge victories for Kiev and says "Russian military is a shadow of its former self." Hilarious.
well - now there at least two of us; we might be on-a-roll
listening to our Fed Gov't one would conclude Russians were guzzling vodka
while the baby's were grilling on their BBQ's
If NATO tries to kick the Russian Bear in the balls they're libel to have their
head and arms ripped off. [be a good thing]
exRCN
when Canada had a ship that would actually float
Jeremy Kinsman, former ambassador to EU, is claiming huge victories for Kiev and says "Russian military is a shadow of its former self."
Yep - just kick in the door, and the whole place will collapse.
/s
Kinsman? As in "kin" to his Tribe (of Zionists)? Say No more.
Noone wants it, but it seems like its going to happen. Time to move to Argentina
Blech. Same shenanigans, different continent, different bunch of old Nazis, and even more corruption.
Noone wants it, but it seems like its going to happen. Time to move to Argentina
For what it's worth, I just wrote my do nothing Sen. Boxer who sits on the Foreign Relations committee telling her in no uncertain terms I don't want this shit.
I would really like to know what Europe DOES want. Are they OK with this whole Russia/Ukraine thing so long as the US steps aside and doesn't interfere?
Europe needs another endless bail out case for the free catered lunches. They haven't eaten a high-end meal in a while.
Europe has a 25% youth unemployment going further south.
In the eyes of the average parasitic Brussels bureaucrat, there's probably nothing like a bit of large-scale rough and tumble with the Russians to get that number down.
"The foundation of all mental illness is the avoidance of legitimate suffering".....
..... wouldn't you agree Carl Jungs words sum up the western cabal quite succinctly .......
plus Germany wants at least a chance to get her gold back from Ft Knox
[don't do CIA/USA bidding = kiss it goodbye]
Do you mean European citizens or European leadership?
These others... are they mercenaries? Like ISIS?
Will they be pulling the Polish, Canadian, and American mercenaries from eastern Ukraine to take part in this?
Also, will Ukraine be sending 60 year old conscripts to this exercise since most of their regular forces have been rendered "less than combat ready"?
They can try to get Kolomonsky's private army to participate. What's left of it anyway.
If they were, they would probably be on the Saudi payroll and working in Iraq. But once that is conquered, I'm sure they would be glad to expand ops to Ukraine.
Obama probably invested all of his money in rural land. Getting America nuked into the stone age would make it more valuable. That sneaky bastard.
I hear he invested a ton in Gary Indiana... but you're right, that's no differnt than rural land these days... just a few closed steel mills here and there between the weeds and the Michael Jackson Museum.
Last time I was there was 25 years ago. It was a hell pit then. I can't imagine what it looks like now.
Lot Lizard capitol of the USSA
got to agree CC:
I've retired couple of years back from LDT -
needed to bring my wife along for protection from them lizards who are more numerous
than mosquitoes in a swamp.
Like Chernobyl with a thriving crack market.