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US Troops Are Heading To Ukraine

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While only 'humanitarian adviser' boots on the ground are present in Iraq (and Syria), Reuters reports that preparations are under way near Ukraine's western border for a joint military exercise this month with more than 1,000 troops from the United States and its allies. As Obama told reporters last week, "that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming," it seems a little odd 'strategically' to go ahead with the Rapid Trident exercise Sept. 16-26 as a sign of the commitment of NATO states to support non-NATO member Ukraine, entailing the first significant deployment of U.S. and other personnel to Ukraine since the crisis erupted.

As Reuters reports,

As fighting between the army and Russian-backed rebels rages in eastern Ukraine, preparations are under way near its western border for a joint military exercise this month with more than 1,000 troops from the United States and its allies.

 

The decision to go ahead with the Rapid Trident exercise Sept. 16-26 is seen as a sign of the commitment of NATO states to support non-NATO member Ukraine while stopping well short of military intervention in the conflict.

 

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"At the moment, we are still planning for (the exercise) to go ahead," U.S. Navy Captain Gregory Hicks, spokesman for the U.S. Army's European Command said on Tuesday.

 

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But Rapid Trident will entail the first significant deployment of U.S. and other personnel to Ukraine since the crisis erupted.

 

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"It is very important to understand that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming," Obama told reporters at the White House last week.

 

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The United States European Command (EUCOM) says the exercise this month will involve about 200 U.S. personnel as well as 1,100 others from Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Britain, Canada, Georgia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Norway, Poland, Romania and Spain.  

 

Focused on peacekeeping, it will include command post drills, patrolling and dealing with improvised explosive devices.

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Sounds like de-escalation to us... buy moar stocks.

 

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Tue, 09/02/2014 - 20:47 | 5173780 trulz4lulz
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I was there (passed through) a year ago. There is a reason Urban Decay vacationers pick Detroit over Gary. Detroit is safer. Much, much safer.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:04 | 5172326 kowalli
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Hooray, humanitarian aid from USA

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5172327 cowdiddly
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Lol. 1000 troops will last about 2 weeks in the good ole Ukraine meatgrinder. Better prepurchase your caskets and flags.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:22 | 5172425 BlindMonkey
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US troops are well trained. Put them into play without air-superiority would show how difficult that symmetrical war thing is against another well trained force. The uprising has had a great show against a very poorly led Ukie army.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:43 | 5172530 farmboy
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you mean the jobless blacks that enlist at the Walmarts ?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:26 | 5172770 combatsnoopy
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Well at least the Blacks are doing SOMETHING for a living.  Better than Social security//welfare funded White supremacist tweaker parasites who, because they don't have jobs- sit around spending their lives heckling, harassing and physically attacking minorities. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:40 | 5172848 BlindMonkey
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You really had to go there? 'tard.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:46 | 5172860 flapdoodle
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You have not taken into account that the first tranche of Ukie fighters were likely Academi and other "black ops" contractors brought in to shore up the Ukies. Still didn't work without airpower.

The DNR troops do defensive tank warfare *really* well without air dominance - they must have picked up their grandfather's manuals from fighting the Wehrmacht - and it seems to me the AngloZionists have gravely overerestimated their own capabilities, and underestimated those of the DNR/Lugansk with relatively little Russian support. The real Achilles heel of the Zionists is an overabundance of Jewish chutzpah... arrogance guarantees they'll lose.

Since Ukraine is basically a logistical stone's throw from Russia, I'd say its a lost cause for the AngloZionists - they will have to double down all the way to a nuclear exchange...

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:01 | 5172632 Freddie
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They can go for a nice swim and get sniped by the DNR (rebels).  These anti-Kiev patriots are tough bastards.  I would not want to mess with them. 

The Ukrainians need to start going after the oligarchs in Kiev.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:04 | 5172639 Kirk2NCC1701
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Still not seeing any questions if... Will Russia also send 1000 Troops to "Keep Peace" alongside their "US Partners"?  Pfft, "Partners" like that, who needs Frenemies?

Or... how about that useless UN sending in Blue Helmets?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:42 | 5172852 BlindMonkey
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"Or... how about that useless UN sending in Blue Helmets?"

Can I volunteer the mulatto in the taupe suit?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:44 | 5172858 Kirk2NCC1701
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Nah, "Taupe" suits and brown helmets are... shitty for morale.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 23:31 | 5174253 GrandPaFred
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more like 2 minutes -

heard there's some 30,000 bored Russian Bears looking for some excitement just east of them

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5172329 Al Huxley
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It's hard to stage a convincing false-flag without the necessary cast members and extras.  And after the criticism of their efforts in Iraq/Syria the producers have probably decided to go for more realism in their next release.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:12 | 5172685 Freddie
Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:40 | 5172812 Al Huxley
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Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5172331 cowdiddly
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edit DP

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:50 | 5172574 Rakshas
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hehehhehhhehehhehehhehehhehehhehehhe..... sorry but your avatar and DP...... hehhehhehehhehehhehhehehhehehh

 

.....been barking up that tree for a good many years now......

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5172335 vyeung
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his bosses told him to get off his arse and do some more destroying activities. Plus, without the US invoking war in Ukraine, the military industrial complex might be short on its year end bonuses. Especially the black ops boyz (blackwater or whatever they changed their name to every year or so)

Its a joke and totally outragous, but the American people still let it happen. Sigh.........

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5172336 RisingSun
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Russia got 0 friends in Eastern Europe, all countries after soviet collapse literally first thing they did was to apply for a Nato membership. People who actually live next to Russia want nothing to do with them. No one likes them besides conspiracy nuts/armchair specialists on here, who see US sabotage everywhere. 

Go on, call me Nazi again for not liking Putler :D

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:09 | 5172352 Winston Churchill
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Your not good enough to lick a nazis jackboots.

Nice try though.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:13 | 5172371 RisingSun
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Nice I got your "jimmies rustled" armchair general? Fact stands, no one likes Russia in Eastern Europe, we are all Nazis since we dont like Putler and his 5th column in our countries. Some guy sitting with a tinfoil hat in the UK/US will probably know better than us tho, for sure.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/11/1407771108469_Image_galleryIma... here I will send you this gift for Christmas this year :)

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:18 | 5172402 Let them eat iPads
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Nice, that'll pair well with a Putin litterbox.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:21 | 5172423 JRobby
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Me thinkus you trollus

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:26 | 5172454 i_call_you_my_base
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Too bad what you think matters none.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:51 | 5172576 JuliaS
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RisingSun - ZH member for 2 weeks. Posting pro-Nazi propaganda exclusively. Not a single comment on other topics. Nuff said.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:54 | 5172590 TheFourthStooge-ing
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RisingSun is just another sock puppet of viedorkolis, the retarded Latvian polack troll.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:04 | 5172638 RisingSun
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Pro-Nazi these days is Anti-Putler? Julias got shit for brains...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:12 | 5172683 Bunghole
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Different avatar this week I see.

I think a hasidic jackass would be more appropriate.

Trollolololololololololololol

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:12 | 5172666 Kirk2NCC1701
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@RisingSun: "no one likes Russia in Eastern Europe"

Is that your OWN and PERSONAL experience, becasue you've been there or having spend a LOT of time there, or are you just regurgitating info and stories you've read? 

Serious question, because I have spent plenty of time there and speak several Slavic and other languages -- which means I didn't need a Minder or Translator.  What's your story, your first-hand experience?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:21 | 5172716 RisingSun
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I live in Latvia, the country with 30-35% of Russian population TODAY being Non-citizens, because they dont want to learn my language and history to get their citizenship. I am not talking about Soviet times, where Russia was even more out of control, for example they deported like 5% (120 000) of Latvian population to Siberia to die in Winter in 1940s! I am talking about Russian politics today regarding post-soviet countries. What country did you visit?

PS. Before you Zhers call me nazi again, Russia requires people to know their language and history to get citizenship...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:48 | 5172871 BlindMonkey
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Easy there RS. I have a bit of knowledge of the fucking stupid ass run-around it takes to be a "Latvian Citizen". Sorta like taking the SAT in Latvian as well as writing the big ass essay of why you want to be Latvian.

It isn't easy for a foreign native Latvian to keep the passport let alone a Russian speaker to do the same.

(PS. No accusations of Nazism here bro. As to the Soviets: my understanding is they were equally adept at dishing out misery to everybody. Blaming it on Russians is like blaming Texans for the invasion of Iraq.)

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:55 | 5172902 RisingSun
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If they really wanted to integrate they would have no problem with that. Its not like they arrived here yesterday, some of them have lived their whole lives here and still cant(wont) speak a word in Latvian, because of their "Russian pride". As I said, almost every country got the same process, but Russia for some reason likes to accuse us of discriminating against non-citizens, however it is abit stupid of them, since their own country requires people to know Russian language for example to get citizenship.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 19:17 | 5173486 trulz4lulz
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Hahaha dont be such a fuck. I live in 'Merika. Indiana to be kinda' exact. I heard 4 languages other than mine to day. Hindu, Mexican, Arabic and Chinese. They were all US Citizens I would guess. Some even had to have their <GASP!> sons and daughters to translate for them. Zero fucks given amigo, adapt to their presense!

Oh and there was a deaf lady too. But fuck deaf people, am I right, or am I right!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:57 | 5172903 Kirk2NCC1701
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I hear you.  So you sympathize with Americans in Southern California, where ILLEGAL immigrants also do not wish to learn English, nor have to learn it, and English is the 2nd language in some parts?  ;-)

In my experience, I see a generational split of opinion from my travels in Eastern Europe.  Old people are still fixated on the "Soviet" mindset, where "Russians are bad", and young people who see it at two levels:  On one level is Regime vs. Regime, or Russian oligarchs vs. Western oligarchs, and at the second level it's just people on all sides just trying to make a living.

Assimilation is an issue in all countries in the world, where large minorities are living closely together:  it does not force them to assimilate, and they form communities with 'invisible walls' of their own making.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:20 | 5172996 petkovplamen
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That's what I was going to say too. I'm from Eastern Europe myself and yes the officials play as if they don't like Russians but ordinary people don't care if you are Russian or not. Now I lvie in Southern Californai and I can confirm All Central and South AMericans who are flooding the place are acting the exact say way: They simply refuse to learn English and we are practically forced to learn Spanish so we can communicate with them. We have a joke where we say: They never learned Enlgish but we certanly learned Spanish! 

And trust me the so called "melting pot" of USA is NOTHING but. Everyone dislikes everyone else in USA: blakcs dislike whites, latinos dislike whites and blacks, Asians the same. I saw the LA riots of 1990 and believe you me, it's every man for himself. And nobody from South America likes the insolent "Americans" much either. SO to say that Eastern Euroepans dislike Russians, applyes to Central Americans who also dislike USA . 

 

Today it's much worse with all the homless and poor people everywhere. I have had several situations where I was harrased and in dabger ust because of my skin color or because I "looked Jewish" to people.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:57 | 5172905 Herd Redirectio...
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Oh, OK, so the Soviets = Russians.

And do you still begrudge Germany for the actions of the Teutonic Knights?  And Sweden for its invasion of your country?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 19:22 | 5173507 trulz4lulz
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I'm still pretty begrudgeon of the Danes/Vikings and the way they treated my people of ancestory, the Scottish. Fuck Danes, and especially fuck the Vikings. And ESPECIALLY fuck the Minnesota Vikings, they're the worst.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:12 | 5172364 cowdiddly
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Who said he is looking West for friends. As for most of the people living next to Russia, I think you might be a little suprised who some support.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:15 | 5172378 Bay of Pigs
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Too bad the historical record says you're wrong on NATO expansion and the timeframe. The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and those countries didnt join until 1999, 2004 and 2009.

But hey, dont let the facts get in the way of your relentless propaganda.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:18 | 5172397 RisingSun
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Bay of Pigs you are not the brightest guy on here I take? We cant join Nato the next day, I takes years to get ready, meet all the requirements.  Do you even know how long it takes to get accepted in the EU/Nato, if not then stfu and crawl back under your tinfoil hat.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:22 | 5172436 JRobby
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Me thinkus you trollus

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:24 | 5172445 Bay of Pigs
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What is quite clear is that you don't understand why the Russians will not budge on the Ukraine issue.

You are a simpleton and a stupid clueless fuck.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:30 | 5172469 JRobby
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Me thinkus you trollus

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:42 | 5172429 RisingSun
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So let me help you abit here:

http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/security/4478/4486/

1) After soviet collapse we had to get rid of Russian army

2) Have 1st elections after Soviet collapse.

3) Meet with Nato guys

4) Have elections again

5) Then and only then we could start preparing for a Nato membership...

But what do I know right, a guy who actually saw this all happen.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:16 | 5172707 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'll ignore your really bad grammar (which discredits you), and will note that use the world "we", as though you were part of this?  How, in what capacity?

Were you (part of this), or are you using the generic "we" (as in "We in the West...")?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:38 | 5172796 RisingSun
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With "we" I meant my country, steps Latvia had to go through to join Nato. English is my 3rd language, so I apologize for my grammar.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:34 | 5173059 PhilofOz
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RisindSun appears here as a troll but please don't be a grammar Nazi! Here in Australia we don't give a shit about grammar or spelling errors, as long as we understand the message. My wife is a Filipina and I've never seen so much self-bashing she'll give herself for the slightest grammatical error. She'd get laughed at by friends in the Philippines for the most pathetic errors but at least here she will never have to tolerate that sort of crap.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:06 | 5172926 gallistic
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Sun,

Your posts give the impression of a rebellious youngster who joins a gang of criminals just to spite his parents, without realizing that you are flushing your life down the toilet. You do not seem to understand that you are an enabler for powers beyond your limited view. Your hatred and desperate desire for things which you will not get make you easy prey, and very easy to manipulate for others' interests.

It is not an original story; it has played out many times.

Now shut up and follow all those economic policies designed by the EU. Work hard and become a good little wealth producing machine for others. Make sure you cheer as your small country loses any ability to resist the onslaught of power and capital. Be a good citizen of your new client state; always endorse measures dictated and imposed on your country from the outside (IMF, World Bank, et al.) Support the subordination of your country's sovereignty to unaccountable supranational entities like NATO and the EU. Strive to be the best whore in the NATO harem. Make every possible accomodation for the armed forces from other countries who will rule the roost in your country. Be proud of your role as a speedbump for the war machine, and be ready to die in grotesque fashion if ordered to do so by your betters.  Be a good little dog, faithful, obedient, and grateful for the attention of it's new master(s).

And on and on with everything else that goes with it...

 

 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:35 | 5173075 blentus
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Listen, I am sure you are impressed with your country and history of your country and political happening in your country, but noone except you gives a fuck about your shitty country or what you think. If you beleive in what you just wrote, you are just another ignorant idiot.

Hope it helps.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5172382 Let them eat iPads
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Russia has no friends anywhere, that's why they're getting in bed with the Chinks who also have no friends anywhere.

What a pair of dirtbags.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:08 | 5172661 rejected
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Apparently many amerikans don't agree. Look at all the stuff amerikans buy from China. Where would we get our new Ithingies? What would happen to all the WalMart$?

 

R

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:30 | 5172790 gallistic
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Ruski's an' Chinks not cool enough to be in the club?

Grow up.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 19:27 | 5173523 trulz4lulz
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Chinks?! Tha fuck is this?! 1952? I Bruce Lee punch you in your cunt throat as Sun Tzu watches on, shaking his head.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 03:14 | 5174581 Kirk2NCC1701
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Fresh out of Boot Camp? Congrats, all that enthusiasm can't be wasted, so you'll be sent to the Front. Hu ha!

Bush Jr, Cheney, and their kids thank you for your bravery, and for making up for the bravery they lacked.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 00:27 | 5178563 FreedomGuy
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I beg to differ Russia and China have friends. However, they have friends the way mafia, drug lords and gangsters have friends. They are friends of convenience and they do not turn there backs to each other.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:39 | 5172486 Againstthelie
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That's because you associate the New Russia today with Bolshevism and NATO with support of souvereign nations.

But the New Russia is the only European state left, which is defending traditional values, European culture, the idea of souvereign nations, the last state in Europe which is not a ZOG.

 

Russia is in the same position today as Nazi-Germany in 1939: it is pressed into war. Hitler's mistake was, that he tried to stop the killing of Germans in the territories occupied by Poland.

Hopefully the Russian government today does not fall into this trap and ignores the slaughtering of Russians in Eastern Ukraine. There is hope that today's Russia is NOT underestimating the enemy of mankind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQ2ddv4qQU

 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:51 | 5172581 john39
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very well said. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:14 | 5172701 Bunghole
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You had me at ZOG.

+1000

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:32 | 5172795 SMG
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Russia is just as controlled as the other coutries by the Luciferian Oligarchs.  It's just they are being allow to be built up with China so they can start WWIII and depopulate the world.  China will turn on Russia in WWIII simlar to the way Russia turned on Germany in WWII.  The plan is to destroy all other religions and government and institute a Luciferian one world government.

If you note on this Luciferian artwork from the Denver Airport, the little girl in the casket has a cross and a star of David, signifying the death of the other religions. 

http://i1.wp.com/vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/denver04_03.jpg

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:59 | 5172915 luckystars
Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:58 | 5173397 SMG
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Interesting.  Good catch, thanks.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 19:53 | 5173601 Againstthelie
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That's the plan, but if Russia would be controlled by them, then Russia would not fight the NWO, would it?

Russian government is also strenghtening traditional values, fighting pornography, drugs, excessive individualism, strenghtening Russian traditional religion. Short: everything the enemy of mankind hates and needs to remove for his rulership.

Russia under Jeltsin was a ZOG, but Putin, with his old secret service connections first successfully removed the alien grip on Russian media and then avoided the Russian resources fall into the hands of New York. Which he would have never done, if he was playing their game.

And Russia is also educating the world about the evil globalist plans with RT. RT is quite effectively dismantling the Ziomedia's enormous lies by presenting the other perspective and people, when they see both sides, can recognize the lie. That and not allowing it's people to be plundered is it's "crime".

Judge them by what they do.

 

 

When i came to power, i took over a nation which was a democracy. Indeed, as long as Germany was a democracy we saw that everyone in the world came to their help and aid. Yes, the German people used to live in a democracy, and had been plundered and squeezed dry. No, what does democracy or authoritarian state mean for those INTERNATIONAL HYENAS? They're not interested in either!

They are only interested in one thing: Is anyone willing to let themselfes be plundered, yes or no? Is anyone stupid enough to keep quiet in the process, yes or no? And when a democracy is stupid enough to keep quiet, then it is good! And when a authoritarian government declares: "You do not plunder our people any longer neither from the inside or outside, " then that is bad.

 

If we, as a so called "authoritarian state", which differs from the democracies by having the people behind them -  (applause) If we as an authoritarian state had also complied with all the sacrifices that the INTERNATIONAL PLUTOCRATS burdened us with; if I had said in 1933, "Esteemed Sirs in Geneva what would you have me to do?" "Aha! We will immediately write on the slate: 6 billions for 1933, 1934, 1935, excellent, we will deliver! Is there anything else you would like? Yes, ofcourse, Sir, we will also deliver that!" Then they would have said: "At last a sensible regime in Germany."

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 21:11 | 5173867 kianator
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LIke I said, ZH is very colorful. :-)  Oh my!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:52 | 5172892 luckystars
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It is like 1938 in Czechoslovakia where Hitler was forced to take a settlement.

Diane Feinstein is proposing an independent state for Eastern Ukraine.

These guys have no new ideas, old playbooks.

If Putin seals off the black Sea then Ukraine will be land locked like Czechoslovakia.

He should, FUCK the Ukraine.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:17 | 5172988 Canucklehead
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NATO will seal off the Black Sea.  That's one of the first things they will do.

http://englishrussia.com/2014/09/01/in-the-large-russian-port/#more-151654

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:33 | 5173055 bid the soldier...
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NATO will seal off the Black Sea. 

First, Turkey will have a lot to say about that.

Second, Russia should enjoy the live target practice for all its iterations of the Yakhont land, air and ship to ship missile, universally acknowledged to be the Maserati of maritime missiles.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:55 | 5173167 Canucklehead
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Do you understand the geography of the Black Sea?  Do you understand that Turkey is a member of NATO?

Stay in the fog.  It suits you.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:13 | 5173223 Herd Redirectio...
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Turkey don't matter shit.  What matters:

Istanbul

Strait of Bosporus

Hellespont/Dardanelles

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 00:03 | 5174338 bid the soldier...
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Yeah,  Turkey really loves the US.

Who the fuck do you think released those embarrassing Erdogan tapes a couple of months ago?  

Not Putin.

Erdogan doesn't like Israel.  So the US doesn't like Erdogan. The enemy of my friend is my enemy.  You think Erdogan doesn't know that?

Do you understand that Turkey is a member of NATO?

So is Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Slovakia.  Do you think NATO is a giant circle jerk of gay muscle builders?

Read Jane's about Yakhout.  You'll it more interesting than 'My Little Pony.'

Get a brain.  Read the news.

 

 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:39 | 5173092 blentus
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To stop Russian naval invasion of Italy, I guess?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:56 | 5173173 Canucklehead
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You haven't the foggiest idea about what is going on,  do you?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:41 | 5173321 luckystars
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I mean cut Ukraine out of the Black Sea taking Odessa and southern Ukraine.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:11 | 5173217 kianator
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"Hitler's mistake was, that he tried to stop the killing of Germans in the territories occupied by Poland."  

What?  Where is that in the history books?  Or, from my favorite movie, Animal House: " Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"  :-)

I feel a little "dumb downed" after spending too much time on ZH.  But, ZH is really interesting and colorful no matter if the news stories are hit and miss in terms of quality and credible sources of information.
Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:42 | 5173329 luckystars
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The Poles were killing ethnic Germans in East Prussia.

That was to lure Hilter into Poland.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 03:34 | 5174609 Kirk2NCC1701
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Alas, thanks to centuries of Serfdom under the heel of Nobility and the thumb of the Catholic clergy, the Poles have a LOT more experience and tradition with being Serfs than strong, free people.

This is still true today, in spite of pretenses to the contrary. Sorry to say.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:41 | 5172522 kianator
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On a case by case basis, Russia's diplomatic relations with it's former Warsaw Bloc allies since the 90s has been more or less good despite NATO membership. They do have friends in diplomatic circles and maintain good relations with the Czech's, Slovak's, and Hungarians.  Bularia has always had friendly relations with Russia, even with NATO exercises and short-term stationing of US troops. Good relations have always lacked real trust as past history (The Poles) always comes into play and made is necessary for them to join NATO.   In Eastern Europe, history plays a key factor when choosing who your friends are.  In the Poles case, they know the have no real friends, including NATO, who will comes to their rescue if the Russians do something crazy. Thus, in light of what is happening in the Ukraine, Poland's defense budget is going to increase every year.  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:56 | 5172603 Volaille de Bresse
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"People who actually live next to Russia want nothing to do with them. No one likes them besides conspiracy nuts/armchair specialists on here, who see US sabotage everywhere"

Except they're fucking idiots for ignoring geography!
In other words Eastern Europe is and will ALWAYS be closer to Moscow than it is to Washington. Just face it!

If shit happens the NATO support from Washington will fade in minutes and you'll be left alone with an angered Putin.
Not a pretty sight...

It happened in 1956 in Budapest : the CIA told the Hungarian insurgents "yeah rebel against the Reds! We'll supply you with guns and air support!" They rebelled and when they asked for help the line with Washington went dead.

NO ONE wants to die for Eastern Europe : not the USA and certainly NOT Western Europe (Germany France or the UK).

So face reality live in the real world, and make up with Russia.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:05 | 5172651 Catequil
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Very naive, sun...

As Winston Churchil has said it about choosing eternal interests over eternal friendship, I would prefer to be friends with Russia as they control a big chunk of the natural resources ON EARTH.

You can go ahead and be friends with bankrupt kleptocrats...

Yours truly,

An Eastern European!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:06 | 5172652 Rakshas
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....as no doubt there will be combined air ground forces working in concert during this "rabid deployment" exercise it just seems like the perfect time to test a number of Russian/Chinese rapid deployment options as well....... I dunno maybe a few subs hitting the surface just off the coast of a few mouthy fucking interventionist countries for some missle drills......... definitely some retardedly massive air defence drills just a few miles inside the russian border would be in order.... ........on the other hand sitting quiet and watching your prey has its charms as well.......but for sure for sure the sub drills just outside territorial waters ya know just to help out with Nazo constipation issues......

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:14 | 5172703 Freddie
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LOL!  Eastern Europe's friends include scum bags like Hunter Biden.  Joe Biden's slimy lawyer son.  Looting Eastern Europe - one false flag at a time.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5172338 Be_Optimistic
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So fighting Russia is priority over ISIS?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:07 | 5172348 NoDebt
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Obama promised he was capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.  Personally, I'm not so sure.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:19 | 5172414 oddjob
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no, but rescuing blackwater mercs sure is.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:23 | 5172758 Savyindallas
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I think they are expendable  - that's part of their contract  -why they get the big bucks. Eexpect no loyalty from either the Gov  -or Blackwater. The only reason they would save their sorry asses is because they fear their own contractors would sell them out and sing  -no honor among theives.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:01 | 5172921 BlindMonkey
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Yep. Part of the bargain. Losing mercs doesn't make headlines. I believe it is part of the gentalman's agreement with the press and the state dept. I

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 00:03 | 5174341 Flagit
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Unless of course you die due to a heroine overdose on a shipping barge.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:44 | 5173337 luckystars
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Yeah because USA/Israel does not control Russia like it does ISIS.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5172340 torabora
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Are they going to guard their compound with unloaded rifles?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:03 | 5172933 BlindMonkey
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231

If you understand the reference....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:09 | 5172351 GalacticEmissary
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I'm pretty sure Obama and the Neocon dualies in the state dept. could fu(k up an anvil with a glass hammer.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:11 | 5172359 Son of Captain Nemo
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More growing proof by the hour that the $5 billion investment and counting has been a resounding catastrophe and that the IMF/Chevron/Exxon Mobil contingent who funded it are looking to recoup some of that ROI and they appear more than willing to accommodate using U.S. boots as fodder as an "accident waiting to happen".

If you are Army or Marines given your condition and reluctance to stick it out in Syria last year you have to be the dumbest M-F's on the planet to volunteer for this duty!

Make no mistake. You will be used as the next "MH-17"...

As you head over there you might want to be thoughtful enough to ask yourselves how that plane crash story has all but disappeared from the "front pages" and what that means for you when you disappear!!!

Might want to follow the leads of these gentlemen from last year and simply change what is on the card from Al-Qaeda and Syria to "ISIS" and Ukraine!!!

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5172399 reset71
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Don't insult the troops. Take your grievances to the politicians (the ones you probably voted for).  At the end of the day, the US military keeps you alive and preserves your dwindling freedoms, and I know that is the case, because if it weren't for people with guns, I would take over the world and make people like you my slaves.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:41 | 5172523 Son of Captain Nemo
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'reset'

Let me guess?... Your Vietnam vintage or was it your Daddy that was fragged by one of his own finishing his 13 month "tour" for a war by 1971 the American public had had enough of by the end of 1968 when Uncle Walter told the creator of the "Great Society" to fuck himself! -just like now!

The only military worth keeping at this stage is the one that says "No more" and "Not on my watch".  All the rest of them that you say preserve my dwindling freedoms turn into police officers on the streets of Ferguson Missouri and OWS.

This ain't your great grandfather's Country anymore, so I suggest you get off the pills or whatever drugs you take for PTSDs and start living the reality!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:59 | 5172622 reset71
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jesus fucking christ...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:06 | 5172654 Son of Captain Nemo
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jesus fucking christ...

My sentiments exactly!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:44 | 5172536 Blood Spattered...
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How does one preserve dwindling freedoms?  

The military is one of our biggest problems.  DoD, Pentagon & State Department consist of sociopaths and corporate funded war mongers.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:18 | 5172720 combatsnoopy
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Actually the military (now)are a bunch of young adults forced to join for a survival job in order to get robbed by housing and COLI inflation. I blame the draft dodging boomer trash-it's THEIR sponsored and leveraged delegates and lobbyists who are pulling this shit. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:04 | 5172943 Freddie
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They love Obama and Soros.   American soldiers, sailors and airmen have been screwed over since the Civil War. 

Dope always say - I support the Military.  Support the troops but the military does not give a shit about the troops. The Military works for the banksters and elites.

Oh and if you are an ex-Seal working for the See Eye Aye transporting special cargo and you see something you should not have seen - they will kill you and frame you as a heorin addict, drunk and whore chaser.  

Anyone who let's their kid join the military is partially responsible if their kid ends up dead.  they are not defending freedom or democracy.  Just open borders, drug trade, tyranny, et al.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/world/africa/seychelles-maersk-security-de...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:41 | 5172853 Kirk2NCC1701
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Consider the demographics of people enlisting.  The VAST majority are "Economic Refugees", who can't get a decent job in the Private Sector or are looking for that "free education", courtesy of US Taxpayer.

How many kids from the Top 5% are in the military, and of those, how may are in the front lines dodging bullets and shrapnel - rather than enjoying a safe 9-5 war from a distance?  Any Wall St, Investment Banksters, Hedge Fund Managers or Politician's kids that fit that description that you know of?  How about GW Bush, who drunk or in Rehab half the time he was technically in the National Guard?  Or how about that Sith Lord Cheney -- who got umpteen Deferments from serving in the Military and "had better things to do"?

Or are we supposed to just send the "poor bastards" to fight and bleed -- while the rest of us assume the "Protect the Ivory Towers, protect the Fort" position?   Seriously.  I seriously have to question either your intelligence or your agenda.

Why join or not join?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:08 | 5172962 BlindMonkey
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"At the end of the day, the US military keeps you alive and preserves your dwindling freedoms"

You poor, deluded mother fucker. I think you are close to seeing how things are. Just another lick of the red-pill my man. You will see.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 00:13 | 5174367 ukrassian
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US troops will be send to fight for petrodollars while russians will be fighting defending their backyard.

Even though I was born in one of the Stan countries, never had russian passport Im partially Russian and partially Ukranian, and live in one of the western countries. I still consider myself as 100% russian. Most of my GrandGrand parents were killed by Nazies during WW2.

my grandfather's parents where hung  by nazies so he was orphaned when he was 12 and lived in the bush with partisans for the rest of the war and walked all the way to Germany in 1945.

There are still a lot of people alive there who lived through that war.

Russians are not gonna give it away that easily. they will fight till the last blood drop not the first drop

heck i might even fly there to help defend against those dogs.

"dont corner the cat, it will scratch your eyes out"

 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:12 | 5172363 USD Long
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aww shit...does EMP mean my cable will only get 500 channels...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:12 | 5172367 reset71
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When Russian storm troopers invaded Crimea (with no flags on their uniforms), it was obvious and verified. Citizen journalists and security camers capture the whole thing.  Is there any "real" evidence out there that Russia is backing the seperatists in East Ukraine?  I know the Prez and the media keep saying it is so, but that doesn't make it so.  Who has a link or a video or something that shows Russia supporting the seperatists?  Does Russia even have control of its side of the Ukranian border? Are patriotic Russians crossing the border with weapons to help the seperatists, without the Russian government's permission?  What the fuck is really going on? 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:01 | 5172636 farmboy
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We can only know for sure if we are there ourselves nobody should trust the mass media. But I think for sure Russian patriots help out there but again that is not the Russian army. They fight there for a believe but the Ukies fight for a puppet regime masterd by a chocolate oligarch. That is according to me why they win against the odds and the numbers of the Ukie army. Putin is right if there are Russian boots on the ground Kiev would already be history.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:22 | 5173257 Kirk2NCC1701
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So you're saying that both sides are playing Proxy/Clone Wars, using a combo of Local Crazies plus paid Mercs plus unpaid Volunteers plus Handlers & Directors?   What a "demographic" for the New Normal in warfare!

If so, critical differentiators in Good vs Bad are: "Who is shelling, burning, killing or slaughtering the local Civilian population"?

If you want to ID the "Bad Guys" for yourself, then this needs to be your differentiators.  Note:  You Neocons may not like the answers when using these "truthy" criteria, and you may want to flag this reality to our Dear Leaders and lame MSM, while we are slapping on the Humanitarian flags of convenience onto every deadly expedition.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:14 | 5172374 TrustbutVerify
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Where's the liberal cross-eyed mad, slobering apoplexia in regard to sending these troops?  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:14 | 5172376 Haole
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DJs joking and chuckling on Canadian radio today in the car about Putin needing to "chill" and implications he's the problem.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:27 | 5173283 Kirk2NCC1701
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Can we see that list of Owners of Canadian radio stations?  Just to make sure there is no correlation between owners and their dual-citizen bias or agenda.

C'mon, somebody must have that list or be compiling it.  Eh.

I'd start that research with Top Radio Stations by market size and share, and then find out who owns them.  To play on a hunch.  Black, Bronfman, Thompson, Murdoch...?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:14 | 5172379 geno-econ
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Send Nuland and Kagens to do latreen clean up for the mess they created.  This feeble show only shortens Putin's two weeks to one week if news  gets around Nuland is back in town.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:21 | 5172427 GalacticEmissary
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Surely you jest. That kind of work is for the goy.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:42 | 5173108 geno-econ
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Lots of goys in East Ukraine waiting for chance to put Nuland to work.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5172386 Let them eat iPads
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Don't mess with Russia or we'll nuke you.

Vlad

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5172387 Fuku Ben
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I'm waiting for the video to be release of the Blackwater/Xi/Academi "contractors" team that was caught in Ukraine a day or so ago

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:20 | 5172418 Bastiat
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Source?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5172393 olle
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If the Uke´s are in middle of war with `invading´ Russia, why do they take time and soldiers to participate in an exercise on the wrong border.  While Russia has 150K well armed soldiers ready at the other border....... "Peace keeping training"... Uke´s don´t even seems to know the meaning of those words.....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:19 | 5172406 jacship
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This is a BIG, BAD, MISTAKE

NATO IS BREAKING IT'S CHARTER

NON-MEMBER UKRAINE

GASWARS 0.14.9

RAPID TRIDENT IS A BAD IDEA

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:21 | 5172420 localizer
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Madness...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:21 | 5172424 Atomizer
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We have to be politically correct by addressing them as armed humanitarian advisors. 

/sarc 

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:37 | 5172449 Haole
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So those are the ones blessing others with "humanitarian bombing"..?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:25 | 5172444 Againstthelie
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North American Terror Organization

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:45 | 5172542 Chupacabra-322
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Hey, wait a second here, that's my Acronym. Well, I haven't copy wrighted it so its fine by me. Here's another one of my favorites.

D. ept.

of

H. uman

S. acrifice

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:39 | 5172446 Frank N. Beans
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SNAFU

I suppose the equivalent would be if Putin were to send troops to Cuba for "exercises."  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:55 | 5173170 Catequil
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NO, the equivalent would be if Russia spends 5bln USD in Mexico undermining current society status quo, then promisses miracles to drug cartels if only they would overthrow the legit government and allow Russian military missile bases along their north border. :)

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:25 | 5172447 css1971
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What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously American citizens. You need to wake up and get behind the wheel again. Sleeping at the wheel is going to cause an unimaginable amounts of shit to hit the fan.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:37 | 5172497 reset71
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Look on the bright side, if enough shit hits the fan at once it will prevent the blades from splattering it on the walls.... but you will still have a big pile of shit on your fan.  Still, a pile of shit might be easier to clean than splatter.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:10 | 5172668 farmboy
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They are not sleeping they are busy defending S&P 2000 :)

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:25 | 5172450 himaroid
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Jeanne Shaheen takes a toke and says "It's OK, it's Obama.".

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:29 | 5172460 Joe A
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Of WWI it is said that the world was sleepwalking into it. WWIII it seems the world is stampeding into.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:30 | 5172465 Duc888
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FUKU BEN :I'm waiting for the video to be release of the Blackwater/Xi/Academi "contractors" team that was caught in Ukraine a day or so ago.

 

 

Already 120 whacked so far...., just sayin. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:42 | 5172519 Proofreder
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post a link or stfu

please.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:35 | 5172765 Tenshin Headache
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There was a press conference with top Novorussian leaders a few days ago, and among other interesting things they said that 100 Academii personnel had perished. I don't remember if it was a post on ZH, but it was linked to on several other posts. Well worth watching.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:46 | 5172869 Jackagain
Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:47 | 5172553 Chupacabra-322
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Do you mean 120 whacked Blackwater/Xi/Academi Mercenaries? There is a God after all.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:13 | 5172697 Bankster Kibble
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I read we had Academi mercs there but the most recent story was in May.  What is the news in September?  Thanks.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:58 | 5173179 Freddie
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Dr. Jim Willie is saying that today Blackwater/Xe/Academie mercs were captured by DNR (rebels).  Three or four of them.   They supposedly will be put on the web with a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgOUazLGdhc

Germany is jumping ship from Obama's USAA (Democrat scum and RINOs) and possibly Germany leaving the EU. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:24 | 5172762 pupdog1
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We can dream, can't we?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:29 | 5172468 Gunga
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We need to tell our elected representatives that we are against intervening in the Ukraine and Russia dispute.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:32 | 5172478 GooseShtepping Moron
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NATO is just hoping that someone in Ukraine gets trigger happy and plinks a US advisor or that a wayward Polish soldier steps on a landmine somewhere - anything to produce a few casualties which the US will then blame on Russian aggression and use as an excuse to ratchet up the tension. However, to the great benefit of the world, it will not play out that way. Instead, Putin will just use this opportunity to observe NATO capabilities, which we are fortuitously providing to him in his own backyard.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:19 | 5172732 Wahooo
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Just the opposite. Putin wants US and EU citizens to feel the sting of another foreign adventure not to their liking.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 19:13 | 5173451 Kirk2NCC1701
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Can't help but get that nagging feeling that Ukraine presents a New Norm in modern warfare demographics:  both sides playing Proxy/Clone Wars, by using...

A combo of: Local People + some Domestic Military Crazies, and Foreign Mercs & Volunteers, Organizers, Financiers & Sponsors.

What a witch's brew!  Only a 100% Moron or Shill would still be chanting/ranting "Support Our Troops".  And clearly too complicated for NATO's Canadian troops, who can only handle 3 entities: Us, Them, and Not Them.  LOL... a new low for Canada, under Harper.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 23:51 | 5174304 gallistic
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I completely agree that Canada under Harper has lost a lot of goodwill and hit all time reputational lows.

The man and his policies are a disgrace.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:33 | 5172482 Goldilocks
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In Loving support of Zionist members. (figuratively?)

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:37 | 5172499 Duc888
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Gunga: We need to tell our elected representatives that we are against intervening in the Ukraine and Russia dispute.

 

O-BOMB-A is busy playing golf, call Joe Biden....or....ummmm, his son, he's over there....

LOL.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:50 | 5172568 Chupacabra-322
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The strategy should be to have Wanted Dead or Alive posters of Biden's son plastered all over the Ukraine with a reward.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:40 | 5172510 Proofreder
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Instead of a headline image showing empty boots on the ground, they should be shown

as upended over a rifle with bayonet embedded in the soil over the body in the battlefield grave.

Warmongers need to go fight the oligarchs themselves.  It would be good PR for the .01$  Do some hands-on killing.

Nah, never happen, except at the point of a sword or pitchfork.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:45 | 5172548 cherry picker
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Politicians are mostly lawyers or have a law degree.  They really shouldn't be controlling this kind of stuff.  Obama never had boots on the ground and will he lose a son, daughter, spouse or parent in this fiasco of his making?

I don't think so.

Any wise, experienced general wouldn't do anything like this unless it was absolutely necessary, not for show and tell which will probably lead to more innocents slaughtered, wounded and homeless.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:49 | 5172564 Volaille de Bresse
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Obozo is jealous of Bush-43 :
he too wants HIS own silly war, a war he can and will lose...

Forward... to the cemetary!

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