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"World Is Losing Battle To Contain Ebola Epidemic," MSF Warns Response "Lethally Inadequate"

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The CDC's worst nightmare is coming true. Despite reassurances from the government that it was 'contained', the Ebola outbreak in Nigeria is accelerating fast. Health Minister Chukwu said that 17 had now been infected and 271 were under surveillance (including most horrifyingly, 72 in Lagos). In addition, Congo is seeing cases increase rapidly, with WHO reporting 53 cases of Ebola (31 dead) and warning, perhaps ominously, that there is no link with the West Africa strain. Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf said the situation in her country "remains grave," adding "People now don't see this as a Liberia or West Africa crisis. It could easily become a global crisis." Furthermore, Doctors-without-Borders warns, "the world is losing the battle to contain the Ebola epidemic."

 

 

  • *WORLD LEADERS ARE FAILING TO ADDRESS EBOLA EPIDEMIC, MSF SAYS
  • *INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE TO EBOLA 'LETHALLY INADEQUATE', MSF SAYS
  • *MSF: WORLD IS LOSING BATTLE TO CONTAIN EBOLA EPIDEMIC
  • *MSF: NATIONS WITH DISASTER RESPONSE CAPACITY MUST ASSIST

Via Doctors Without Borders,

Six months into the worst Ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it. Leaders are failing to come to grips with this transnational threat.

 

In West Africa, cases and deaths continue to surge. Riots are breaking out. Isolation centers are overwhelmed.  Health workers on the front lines are becoming infected and are dying in shocking numbers. Others have fled in fear, leaving people without care for even the most common illnesses. Entire health systems have crumbled.

 

Ebola treatment centers are reduced to places where people go to die alone, where little more than palliative care is offered. It is impossible to keep up with the sheer number of infected people pouring into facilities. In Sierra Leone, infectious bodies are rotting in the streets.

 

Rather than building new Ebola care centers in Liberia, we are forced to build crematoria.

 

Last week, the World Health Organisation (WHO) projected as many as 20,000 people infected over three months in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea.

 

We are in uncharted waters. Transmission rates are at unprecedented levels, and the virus is spreading quickly through Liberia’s capital, Monrovia.

 

...

 

We have been losing for the past six months. We must win over the next three.

Nigeria is bad and getting worse fast.. (via Reuters)

Nigeria has a third confirmed case of Ebola in the oil hub of Port Harcourt, bringing the country's total confirmed infections to 17, with 271 people under surveillance, the health minister said on Monday.

 

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Patrick Sawyer, the first case, came from Liberia, and then collapsed at Lagos airport on July 20.

 

The shift to Port Harcourt shows how easily containment efforts can be undermined. Nigeria's government acted quickly at the end of July, setting up an isolation ward and monitoring contacts closely. But one of Sawyer's contacts in Lagos avoided quarantine and traveled east to Port Harcourt.

 

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Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said in a press conference that 72 people in Lagos, a city of 21 million people, were still under surveillance. Another 199 people were under surveillance in Port Harcourt.

Congo is accelerating... (via WHO)

  • *WHO SAYS IDENTIFIED 53 CASES CONSISTENT W/EBOLA IN DRC, 31 DEAD
  • *NO LINK BETWEEN WEST AFRICA, CONGO EBOLA OUTBREAKS, WHO SAYS

"There are now 31 deaths," Eugene Kambambi, the WHO's head of communication in DR Congo, told AFP, citing Congolese authorities and stressing that the epidemic "remains contained" in an area around 800 kilometres north of the capital Kinshasa.

 

Kabamba added that there were "53 confirmed, suspected or likely cases" of Ebola, while 185 people were under medical watch because they had admitted to contact with patients or were believed to have had dealings with people stricken by the highly contagious disease.

 

The government announced on August 25 that the DRC was facing its seventh Ebola outbreak since the disease was first identified in the former Zaire in 1976.

 

The health minister has ruled out any link with a serious Ebola epidemic sweeping parts of west Africa, at a cost of more than 1,500 lives, on the grounds that there had been no contact between those distant nations and Boende. The WHO has taken the same position.

And Liberia is a disaster... (via CNN)

Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf said Monday that the situation over the massive Ebola outbreak in her country "remains grave."

 

"Our health delivery system is under stress. The international community couldn't respond quickly," Johnson Sirleaf told CNN's Nima Elbagir in an interview.

 

She warned a bigger response is needed to prevent that.

 

"People now don't see this as a Liberia or West Africa crisis. It could easily become a global crisis."

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Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:23 | 5171181 NoDebt
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When your neighbor has Ebola, it's an unlucky break.

When YOU have Ebola, it's an epidemic.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:30 | 5171223 Tall Tom
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When you have Ebola it is not an epidemic. It is YOUR FUNERAL. You are dead.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:38 | 5171258 SMG
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Is that chart above saying there have been 30000 deaths so far?  If so wow.

 

Edit: ok never mind that's a projected trend.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:40 | 5171283 NoDebt
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That's projected.  25 weeks from June 24th.  Sometime around Christmas this year.  

Ho, ho, ho.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:43 | 5171295 Publicus
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Ebola will put an end to scarcity.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:44 | 5171296 Decolat
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Curse these hockey stick charts. And curse the multitudes that ignore them!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:51 | 5171341 Herd Redirectio...
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"Its spreading rapidly in Monrovia"

Oh, the same place that has shit in the streets, has Ebola spreading quickly?  Huh.  Note to self: Avoid Monrovia, esp. slums.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:00 | 5171382 knukles
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And so what else is in the news?
Solution, only one and now pitifully late: 

New and Improved, Same Method, New Name, Different Package, Same Great Procedure:

Cordon Sanitaire.

Now coming to a whole continent!
Hopefully not near you!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:18 | 5171466 jbvtme
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what is the connection to the mysterious deaths of a hundred microbiologists in the past few years and the recent death of a rockefeller, big wheel at drs. w/o borders, with the ebola outbreak?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:26 | 5171504 Bindar Dundat
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Feb 2016 is when we hit 6B infected.  Yikes

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:56 | 5171972 TerminalDebt
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we will never truly have 6B infected at the same time, due to the fact 2B will already be dead

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:22 | 5172108 MalteseFalcon
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Will somebody, anybody, please cut that check to WHO.

 

EEEEEbolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:09 | 5172664 The Big Ching-aso
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Ebola sounds too innocuous.

I think Bleedola is more apropos.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:34 | 5172811 Dead Man Walking
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agreed.  Or maybe Bleedouturholas.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:28 | 5171507 General Decline
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"what is the connection to the mysterious deaths of a hundred microbiologists in the past few years and the recent death of a rockefeller, big wheel at drs. w/o borders, with the ebola outbreak?"

 

I give up.  What's your theory?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:31 | 5171520 Herd Redirectio...
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That it was 'mutated w/ assistance', shall we say.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:08 | 5171692 General Decline
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understood

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:35 | 5171808 Fish Gone Bad
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I guess they are cancelling the plans to build a Disneyland in Lagos.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:45 | 5172547 gatorboat
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Wow, this ebola scamidemic even has the ZH crowd trembling in fear.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:49 | 5172886 NidStyles
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Not likely. A few hundred deaths and a faulty regression model are not enough to scare me, and I doubt many others are worried about Ebola. You are still more likely to die by lightning strike at this point.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:21 | 5173007 trulz4lulz
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True, but thats a constant. The odds fo me, you and everyone on this forum getting Ebola is going up exponentially. Whis dosent happen to the average human, unless you are putting yourself in harms way that is.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:27 | 5173018 jbvtme
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general decline...i have no theory, fratboy.  just a simple question  http://www.armorlake.com/2014/05/over-100-microbiologists-mysteriously.html

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:31 | 5171523 g speed
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good catch---+1 for you---now we need an investigation?????  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:52 | 5171617 Kprime
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keep in mind they eliminated the top 4 or 5 Aids reseachers, plus some lesser Aids researchers.  Had to shoot down a whole plane but they got them.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:17 | 5171737 cougar_w
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"what is the connection"

None.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:23 | 5173010 trulz4lulz
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None. That we know of. There easily could be a connection. We just dont know. Unless you know without a shadow of a doubt that there is no connection, then feel free to share what you know with the class.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:19 | 5171475 El Vaquero
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Part of the problem is that the more persons infected, the more chances it has to mutate into something even more nasty.  Frankly, with over 7 billion people on the planet and rapid transportation, I'm surprised that we haven't experienced a major pandemic of something already.  That being said, I'm not going to worry until there are secondary and tertiary infections in developed countries.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:52 | 5171946 Things that go bump
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There was a small outbreak of what is thought to have been Spanish flu at a military base in 1917, but it died out. In 1918, that monster broke out in several different countries simultaneously.  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:08 | 5172042 El Vaquero
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There are so many potential bugs out there that could turn into something nasty that it's not worth altering your life for any given one until it actually does something that proves that it is a danger.  WTF are we going to do if there is a real global pandemic anyway?  Once one hits, the only thing you'll be able to do is to hope that you weren't exposed once you realize what's going on and do what you can to isolate yourself from sources of infection. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:37 | 5172823 Dead Man Walking
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yes, and I worry about large universities here, with so many international students. Hope our kids will be safe.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 22:48 | 5172890 Spigot
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But most people considering this from the angle of 'natural spread' are not factoring in the possible use of these dying people's body fluids/disintegtrating flesh and organs, as a bio weapon against the US (or any other country)?? Seriously. If Ebola were to ever be weaponized it would look like this: body secretions extra-vivo on most surfaces still infective after 2 weeks, incubation period up to 3 weeks, initial onset symptoms similar to cold or flu, high mortality rate, massive interventions needed, "recovered" Pts still shedding virus in body fluids (semen, urine, sweat) for weeks to months after 'recovery'.

I'm sure there are no crazy fuckers out there that have any maniacal resentment against the first world. And THAT is a good thing, right? Comforting, that.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:54 | 5171352 PacOps
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In the long run ... however for the near future ...

 

The Ebola outbreak is putting food harvests in West Africa "at serious risk", the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) warns.

It has raised a special alert for Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, the three countries worst affected.

Rice and maize production will be particularly affected during the coming harvest season, says the FAO.

The food shortages are expected to worsen in the coming months.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29028768

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:59 | 5171366 Publicus
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At current growth rate, Ebola will infect everyone within only 1-2 years. After that abudance for every survivor.

 

Oh who am I kidding, the remaining elite will just hoard everything all over again.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:21 | 5171758 cougar_w
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"At current growth rate"

It's silly (bordering on irresponsible) to even try and speculate. You can't do this work in a spreadsheet, it takes complex computer models that are tuned to the time of year, global travel patterns and the nature of the pathogen. Those models are probably being run now (somewhere) but I seriously doubt you will ever see the output. They are used by national centers for disease control, and WHO, and otherwise will be absolutely top-secret.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:07 | 5172037 Things that go bump
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I've seen simulations of such models in pandemic disaster movies, and maybe it was for effect, but they were quite grim. I've seen estimates for the spread of the black death overlying maps of Europe too, and this was at a time when travel was quite difficult and dangerous. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:22 | 5172435 Svener
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I have seen a few.  They are being covered at flutrackers.  They are no where near as dystopain as they appear on this site.  They are being done by MIT and some other solid organizations that are able to factor enormouse amounts of data.  Gotta love algos.  For multiple reasons the risks of spreading very far outside of Africa are pretty small.  If it does the developed world can make quick work of it.  My God, this is nothing like small pox, that was a slippery little devil, and we were able to wipe that out.  This would not spread like wild fire here.  We don't have the same practices or culture that make so diabolical there.  They will likely have a vaccine early 2015, not enough time for it to get very far.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:28 | 5173030 trulz4lulz
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How is that AIDS vaccine working out, common cold, Herpes, HPV, Flu? Not too good at stopping any of those are they? Especially in the form of a vaccine. THe problem with Ebola from what im reading, is that it has NEVER been exposed to the type of outbreak it is at now, usually the tiny village it would be found in everyone was already dead/dying then it was burned to the ground. We have zero idea how this thing is going to mutate, if its going to go air borne outside of 1 meter, or how fast it can mutate once its into the general public. We are in the wait and see phase and from what I'm seeing, its going to kick our asses.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:08 | 5174717 Urban Redneck
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It may be silly (bordering on irresponsible) to even try and speculate, but when the professionals do it, they are just as full of shit.

Taking what some intellectual niglet with a PhD in Theoretical Biology concludes at face value:

The maximum likelihood estimates of the basic reproduction number are 1.51 (95% confidence interval [CI]: 1.50-1.52) for Guinea, 2.53 (95% CI: 2.41-2.67) for Sierra Leone and 1.59 (95% CI: 1.57-1.60) for Liberia.

How far would CI have to expand for each additional 1% increase in confidence? (BTW - nice spread in R0 between Liberia and Sierra Leone, where the outbreaks started at more or less the same time and after authorities knew to expect ebola soon...)

Stepping away from the theoretical, and mental/mathematical masturbation...

Outbreak data for Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia (Table 1) were based on the cumulative numbers of reported total cases (confirmed, probable and suspected) and deaths from the World Health Organisation (WHO).5 The total population size N = S + E + I + R in each country was assumed to be 106 individuals. Note that the exact population size does not need to be known to estimate the model parameters as long as the number of cases is small compared to the total population size.2 In particular, the basic reproduction number is simply given by R0 = ?/?. The effective reproduction number is given by Re = ?(t)S/(?N) ? ?(t)/? as long as the number of cases remains much smaller than S.

Maximum likelihood estimates of the parameters were obtained by fitting the model to the data, assuming the cumulative numbers of cases and deaths are Poisson distributed. I used the optimization algorithm by Nelder & Mead that is implemented in the function optim. 95% confidence intervals (CI) were calculated from the likelihood profile.

Where is the disclaimer that a major limitation of the model is that it CI in the actual number of cases being anywhere near the reported number of cases has to be so low as to render the study meaningless? (probably in the same place as his disclosure that he made 4, not 3, simplifying assumptions...

This is the sort of bullshit we expect from practitioners of the dismal science, and bust on them 365 days a year for.

http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/estimating-the-reproduction-n...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:15 | 5171448 Kprime
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i understand there are a lot of mexicans who like to cross borders to harvest food that no one else will harvest (yah right).  We have an extra 70,000 workers we could donate.

Send your contributions to "Donate a Mexican Harvester".  If you can afford just one illegal mexican per week, we can put an end to the wasted harvest.  Call today.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:02 | 5172930 RaceToTheBottom
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They will however have to be dropped from airplanes.....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:24 | 5171495 froze25
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Food will keep going up, the california drought is a story under reported on.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:00 | 5171646 e2thex
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"...the california drought is a story under reported...."

I get all my water from the faucet and I see no impending shortage of faucets near term.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:35 | 5171836 Cpl Hicks
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Just you wait until you go shopping for fresh arugula. Then the true horror of the situation will become clear to you.

Can you imagine having to eat iceberg lettuce? Oh, the humanity!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:23 | 5172438 willwork4food
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Or only being able to afford Bud Light? Give me ebola!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:43 | 5171882 j0nx
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Draught my ass. The only reason food is going up is dollar debasement. Stop swallowing the MSM BS.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:10 | 5171701 BraveSirRobin
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"Ebola will put an end to scarcity.'

Except for people, who may become scarce.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:33 | 5171527 Antifaschistische
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Holy Chestnuts roasting on an open fire...

I'm still thinking this is a Big Pharma induced exageration of a terrible illness.   Just give Big Pharma a few Billion (via Pharma funded CDC, WHO) and they'll be happy.

One more little thing.  Ebola rears it's ugly head in Senegal (one case) and the government there is pleading for WHO assistance for protective gear!!!   WTF!!   No where in that entire country is someone able to come up with protective clothing and a freakin respirator!!   They didn't think to do it in advance!!!   Is Obama running that place too!!!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:27 | 5171784 cougar_w
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One case reported is 100 unreported. 10 infected in hospitals is 1,000 that never made the trip. 1,000 becomes 10,000 very quickly, in a matter of weeks, far faster than any nation can hope to mobilize a large and coordinated response. Yeah nobody was ready, this thing is new and they were taken in the night.

The African nations with any cases at all are probably already nuked. Just wiped out. Dead walking. Give it a fews months, but like someone shot in the gut, they are already dead.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:31 | 5171812 Cpl Hicks
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Ebola Shmebola.

This is just another grab for your money, along with global warming, killer hurricanes, killer cops and the looming threat of the Tea Party. Please, please stand very still while we spend every extorted tax dollar and then raise your rates yet again.

Barry shakes down the 1%ers between endless rounds of golf while stockpiling KY for his next European jaunt. Any good courses in Estonia or Wales?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:09 | 5172023 BraveSirRobin
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I hope so. I hope it has been contained in Nigeria. I hope it is not airborne, as the CDC now seems to indicate it is. It is ugly enough to be concerned about though. And if you do try and do something about it, doctors, PhD's and labs are real expensive. 

So the problem for people vested with political power is that if they do nothing and it gets bad, they get blamed. If they do a lot and it turns out to be no big deal, they get blamed. They tend to err on the side of "doing something" if for no other reason that it's not their money and to cover their ass.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 06:49 | 5174737 Urban Redneck
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The CDC should have been concerned when Ebola reached Conakry in March, but that would have distracted from their "efforts" to fix the Obolacare rollout fiasco.

They should get blamed, and then they should be publicly disemboweled, and their estates confiscated to offset the cost of their negligence.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:38 | 5172838 Dead Man Walking
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check the home depot paint dept.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:34 | 5171533 TheReplacement
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That would seem to be a lowball.  Assuming that 30k die then you can count on a whole lotta services and industries breaking down.  Healthcare, food, and sanitation shutdowns could lead to a whole lot more deaths.  If they try to quarantine entire areas like West Point then violence and other diseases like cholera could become problems.

$430M or $85B... priorities people.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:03 | 5171668 dontgoforit
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Plague outbreaks in past centuries killed off roughly 70% of all affected.  If that percentage held true today, that's about 5 billion people.  And yes, it does take a few years to get it done. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:03 | 5171664 Silky Johnson
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Projected 30,000 deaths by Christams?!! Holy shit I know what I'm asking from Santy, a new biohazard suit like Dustin Hoffman's.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:39 | 5171268 Kirk2NCC1701
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When you have Ebola, you suffer and may die.

When you have Obola, millions suffer and many more will die.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:15 | 5171457 PacOps
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Meanwhile, Obola chimes in with instructions ... an a reminder that he be their partner.

 

Obama Tells Africans How Not to Get Ebola

President Barack Obama has made a video address to the people of West Africa, aimed at communicating how Ebola is spread. He also said, especially to the people of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, that they will "continue to have a partner in me and in the United States of America".

 

http://allafrica.com/view/group/main/main/id/00032368.html

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:25 | 5171500 froze25
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I always thought it was spread by bodily fluids. But the healthcare workers keep getting infected. Is it air born?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5171568 TheReplacement
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No, it is absolutely not airborne in any way, shape, or form.  Those medicos ran out of TP and were wiping using barehands.  It is not their custom to wash after that soo...

Yeah it is freaking airborne ffs.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:39 | 5171542 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, you tell me... the CDC uses Positive Pressure Suits when working with any virus of this type

See "A researcher working with the Ebola virus while wearing a BSL-4 positive pressure suit to avoid infection." in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

As always... PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY DO, NOT WHAT THEY SAY.   Plan, hedge and act accordingly.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:56 | 5171626 TheReplacement
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No different that trying to guage the market by Buffet.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:03 | 5171660 overmedicatedun...
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that nerdish head of cdc has gone to the black continent, and come back saying " it's going to get worse it's out of control" but then says, "too many countries have cut off contact with the african ebola states" I bet he feels real good about his altruisim, after all he knows quarantine of african countries with ebola would make the cdc look bad. we can't have that.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:39 | 5171560 twh99
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Maybe he should explain it to them in person.  They don't seem to be getting the message.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:55 | 5172901 Spigot
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Dear God. The only thing I see is dead eyes there. I'm just speechless. Nice chip shot there.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:03 | 5173198 MsCreant
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I could not stand it once he says you can't get it from sitting next to someone on the bus. 

YES YOU CAN.

We really are fucked.

I could not watch it. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 22:45 | 5174117 Spigot
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Yes, we are, in the most unpleasant of ways. These so called "leaders" are exceptionally well practised at lying like rugs. Unfortunately, that "skill set" isn't going to do any of us any good in this situation.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:56 | 5171357 Stuck on Zero
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Quick question: If you are lucky enough to survive an Ebola infection are you then immune?  Could you then help others to survive?

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:01 | 5171386 Kprime
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my understanding, with no research, it's like flu.  You can catch it again.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:13 | 5171449 carbonmutant
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"You can catch it again."

But not with the same strain you were infected with the first time....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 16:36 | 5172815 Paveway IV
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I remember reading that your post-infection immunity is only good for a couple of years to a specific strain - you don't get lifetime immunity to it. There's a huge variation among populations, though. Maybe a year for some, maybe a decade for others. I'll ask someone who knows.

One problem with the current strain (if there is only one) is that we don't know how prone it is to mutate in human-to-human chains or how quickly that happens - if at all. Outbreaks have been limited until now, and the current one is too short to make those kind of 'multiple mutant strain' observations.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:15 | 5171458 El Vaquero
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There are a multitude of strains of the flu.  Getting one does not make you immune to another. 

 

There are differnent strains of Ebola, but I do not know if getting one gives you at least partial immunity to another.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:29 | 5171804 cougar_w
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You cannot catch the same one again. But another might come along that you can catch. Also we don't know how long survivors are still active vectors, they say a few weeks or months but right now I wouldn't want to place a bet.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5171510 Kirk2NCC1701
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Think it through... IF you survive, it means that "Your body as successfully won over that strain of Ebola" - albeit at great physical cost.

You are now immune to that strain, and your body can help create vaccines.  If it mutates however, all bets are off.

p.s.  Just because your body won the battle, does not mean you do not carry no Ebola.  In fact, you DO carry it and are now an asymptomatic ("without symptoms") carrier for over TWO months.  I recall 71 days virus survival in semen.  Best not to have sex with Africans, if you don't have to (not living with them).

As always, best to avoid any STDs by keeping your distance from people of questionable background, lifestyle, habits or hygiene.  Pick one of the following handy Mottos...

Motto 1 (for secular types):  No wetting before vetting. 

Motto 2 (for religious types):  No bedding or getting before wedding.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:20 | 5171751 TuPhat
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Kirk, I have down arrowed you a few times in the past but I have to give you credit for this post.  Good one.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 18:45 | 5173340 Citxmech
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What I want to know is how mentally fucked-up the survivors are.  I understand that the disease messes with congnative capacity.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 22:16 | 5174044 Mike in GA
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It shows up in the spelling first...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:22 | 5172107 Bangin7GramRocks
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And remember to always fasten your Jimmy Hat!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 00:14 | 5174370 Ionic Equilibria
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"You are now immune to that strain, and your body can help create vaccines.  If it mutates however, all bets are off."

Immunity cross-reactivty wsould probably make you immune to other strains of Ebola if you survive infection with the first strain.  It's thought that the 1918 flu epidemic didn't kill older people who should have been even more vulnerable than young afults because a far less lethal flu had gone around the globe some decades previously bestowing immunity to the 1918 strain through immune cross-resctivity.

I see a lot of basic ignorance in the Ebola comments.  The general public lacks the background to know what they are talking about.  I know very little about quantum dynamics so I would never venture a comment on it though I would ask physicists who do know quantum mechanics questions.  When it comes to the life sciences every Tom, Dick and Harry seems to consider themselves instant experts.  

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:23 | 5171494 thunderchief
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No, when you find out you have Ebola you've probably killed off your family too.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:53 | 5171950 KnuckleDragger-X
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It's into the cities now, so it's just a matter of time. Most of the African governments are corrupt and at best semi-functional so things like ring quarintine are non-starters and the more people panic the worse its going to get.. All we need now is for it to get into one of our semi-functional cities like LA or Chicago and then the fun will really start.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:25 | 5171183 stinkhammer
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we are all going to fucking die!!!!!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:27 | 5171199 NoDebt
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Eventually, yes.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:32 | 5171228 Tall Tom
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I plan on eternity, myself.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:40 | 5171284 CHX
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We're all star dust!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:24 | 5171496 El Vaquero
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My real name is Cthulhu.  I pay no attention to things like death and pandemics. 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5171524 Poundsand
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On a long enough timeline...

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:35 | 5171537 El Vaquero
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Come on dude, they have made plushies in my likeness.  I'm gonna be around forever.

 

http://www.toyvault.com/cthulhu/PeepingCthulhuLG.jpg

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:07 | 5171690 dontgoforit
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I'm going to live forever.  Doing pretty good so far.

So what do you call a Mexican electrician who installs all the wiring backwards?     A dyslexican.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:48 | 5171310 pob
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Ebolanation

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:32 | 5171237 Smiley
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On a long enough timeline...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:01 | 5171378 Kprime
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On the ebola timeline....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:05 | 5171679 Silky Johnson
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That shit takes the long out of the equation.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:45 | 5171281 TomGa
Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:50 | 5171335 MsCitizen2
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TomGa -

My thoughts precisely.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:27 | 5171505 crazytechnician
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Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:52 | 5171344 Lux Fiat
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As other folks have put it, we all have expiration dates.  Sometimes things spoil ahead of time, sometimes they're still good way past it.  Genetically, the early 80's seems to be the "sweet" spot for those who avoid early spoilage.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:24 | 5171185 q99x2
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With 100,000 walking across the US/Mexican border and Ebola vials going for $1.99 a piece we should be seeing people dropping like mutilated cattle soon. BTFED M'Fers.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:24 | 5171186 observer007
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is your pic there?

Talk of the day:

List of all celeb leaked pictures Jennifer..

 http://homment.com/celbrities

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:36 | 5171260 MeMongo
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Observer ., a year and a half at this site and you just start pumping this TMZ shit on every thread? What the hell's a matter with you? It's fucking titties and such, big fucking deal, unless you're an adolescent and can't stop beatin it....then by all means carry on!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:51 | 5171342 LFMayor
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Titties?  Cool!   Don't go getting all queer Mongo, just because your little willy doesn't grow now.

Because it's in the shade? 

Back in the good 'ol days all the cool avatars were tit pics and Pladizow was king.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:20 | 5171476 Abitdodgie
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No the Swedish chef had the best pick .

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:33 | 5173061 MeMongo
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Haha Mayor! Don't mention Mongo's "willy " 

MONGO STRAIGHT:-)!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:02 | 5171652 Oliver Klozoff
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His porn ain't as good as robotraders.

Stupid Verlander.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:26 | 5171198 Dr. Engali
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I'm scared, hold me.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:29 | 5171216 NoDebt
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I'm still under my bed.  I'm not going to hold you, but if you want to hang out under here a while with me, maybe we could spoon or something.  But I gotta tell you, I'm not really 100% on this whole idea yet.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:31 | 5171229 Dr. Engali
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I thought I saw a terrorist peeking in my window, turns out it was only Fonz. Scared the shit out of me.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:37 | 5171266 NoDebt
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I always imagined he would look a little like Joe Pesci in 'My Cousin Vinny'.  Was I close?  

"Your honor, these two yutes...."

"Im sorry, did you say 'yutes'?"

"Yeah, these two yutes.  What?"

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:37 | 5171267 Winston Churchill
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Did they let him out of DETOX already ?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:54 | 5171350 LFMayor
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Henry Winkler was at Betty Ford?  What was he all smacked up on, Geritol?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:34 | 5171247 RSloane
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Approximately 10,000 African students from Ebola stricken countries have re-entered the US to continue their college studies. Other than the rudimentary 'fever' screening, these students have not be detained for the incubation period and as far as I know, there is no plan to do so. In all probability they do not represent a health risk to the US citizen at large, but its interesting to me that there was no question of a question about their re-entry.

Miffed was right. Ebola's only natural containment was oceans but we can kiss that good bye.

Should I hold you now or later?

/offers a gentle 'global intermission' hug

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:48 | 5171311 Dr. Engali
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It's a crazy world we are living in Sloane. I could never imagine we would see this level of insanity.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:21 | 5171372 RSloane
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Nor I. It would take one, just one, college student contracting Ebola before this entire country would be in full panic mode. His or her contact list would be in the hundreds.

Question to Ebola patient: How many bars did you go to Saturday night?

Answer: Five or six, mebbe four hundred people in total I came into contact with. That doesn't include my dorm.

As I said, I don't -think- that's going to happen but I do believe that before its contained, we will see more Ebola cases in the US [last count of suspected Ebola cases in isolation in the US is 84] The media isn't going to report on any of it until people are running amok in the streets and then media will have to report it because everyone will know by then.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:44 | 5171581 froze25
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I had been trying to find information on US ebola cases with not much luck.  Where did you source that 84 number?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:07 | 5171688 Silky Johnson
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If just one of those motherfuckers so much as has a hint of bushmeat on their breathes, it should be crematorium time.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:43 | 5171883 Cpl Hicks
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Then Barry is toast!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 15:26 | 5172453 Svener
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We've had at least two imported Ebola Restin occurences, years ago.  This is not a scary ebola, the infected people were fine. The Zaire strain seems to be weakening.  CRF are smaller then ever before. 

In the US anyone that comes from an impacted country is suspect, flutrackers is following suspect cases and so far they have all be negative except for one in Senegal. I think it was Senegal.

 

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:53 | 5171949 j0nx
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It's called political correctness and I have been saying for over 10 years now that it will be the death of all of us. It's not politically correct to deny a bunch of Africans from entering the country because there is a very high chance that one or more of them will be carrying plague. Nor is it politically correct to be weary around blacks because they have a much higher propensity towards violent crime. Nor is it politically correct to profile Muslims because 99% of the high value terrorism is committed by them. I could go on and on but you get the point. In other words: liberalism and their construct political correctness will kill the country.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:32 | 5171824 cougar_w
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Interesting.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:27 | 5171203 kchrisc
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Do call me until it is in a Philippine or Indian city, both of which harbor the top-nine most densely populated cities in the world.

Until then, it is just Al Gore nonsense to me.

An American, not US subject.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:34 | 5171244 Tall Tom
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WHEN...NOT IF...BUT WHEN it is in a Philipine or Indian city then it will be far too late.

 

It is in all probability far too late as I write this...

 

Heads up.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:47 | 5171304 RSloane
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It was clearly established in a previous Ebola thread that Indians, who bathe and brush their teeth in the river approximately twenty yards away from floating bloated decaying human corpses, would have such hardened immune systems that they may represent Ebola's last hurrah on earth.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:58 | 5171370 Tall Tom
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I don't think so...

 

That is one nasty pathogen.

 

Perhaps some will make it. But the affects of all of the World's Nuke Plants developing into Fukushimas will bring on a Nuclear Holocaust.

 

They may survive the initial virus. But they will not survive the following death of the World's Oceans.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:45 | 5171591 froze25
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Soylent Green day is Tuesday.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:05 | 5171676 Hongcha
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Put China on that fear list too, boys.  And Hong Kong - ultra-dense population and a lot of Africans, East Asians and Southeast Asians passing through.

They had fucking well better contain this thing on the continent of Africa or I bet China's next with all those contractors going over there.  How many?  Tens of thousands.  Will their managers pull the plug on any of those lucrative projects?  Hell no.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:11 | 5171442 Kirk2NCC1701
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Philippines, India, Do Not Panic.  It's not dangerous until you see them sweat.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:28 | 5171205 Drop out
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How was our response?

Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT. We value your opinion!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:28 | 5171209 youngman
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so this is why Gold and silver are tanking....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:56 | 5171358 Kprime
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before ebola     140,000 tonnes/7 billion=

after   ebola      140,000 tonnes/1 billion=

huge drop in price of gold on the way.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:29 | 5171215 Tall Tom
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The price of Gold does not matter in a Neolithic World.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:36 | 5171261 Al Huxley
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True, but neither does the price of Facebook

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:41 | 5171287 NoDebt
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TWTR always has value, though.  Always.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:49 | 5171319 Tall Tom
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TWTR has a price. Zerohedge has value.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:33 | 5171218 Tjeff1
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Sounds bullish to me.  Does ebola break windows too?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:35 | 5171248 Tjeff1
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That infection and mortality chart has some major extrapolation plugging.   Did the CBO generate it?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:36 | 5171252 juggalo1
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Your chart seemed entirely composed of "trend" and very few points labelled "data".  The epidemic sounds bigger than the data points you listed.  The scary portion of the chart you show is all trend and no data.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:55 | 5171355 dearth vader
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That should remind you that however ugly the data the trend is your friend.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:39 | 5171264 One And Only
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We need to mobilize the world and help teach these poor Africans to do things like - not eating dead animals you find in the jungle, washing your hands, and not stealing sick people from isolation centers. Let's not forgot about the "world renowned Mr. Sawyer" who after knowingly was infected began urinating and spitting on people in Nigeria.

Yeesssssss. Please mobilize and fast. Send money. Help the chilldddreeeen.

Africa is a failed continent and it would be in the world's best interest building an electric fence around it and erasing it from google maps.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:50 | 5171329 flapdoodle
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You forgot:

Abstain from necrophilia in isolation wards...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:03 | 5171391 Lux Fiat
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Don't forget "Wow, we can make a fortune off these body parts on the black market!"

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:14 | 5171456 Farmer Joe in B...
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Hehehehehe.... the "black market"....

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:38 | 5171860 cougar_w
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Maybe you are just scared and making funny, but if not you should understand that ebola being initially an African problem will probably go down as one of those footnotes in history.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:42 | 5171269 Number 156
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The problem is that Liberia is so backwards due to both lack of education and corruption from their own government, have no trust in their leaders or any organization that is trying to stem the tide of Ebola.

I think they need to quarantine the 'elected' leaders of Liberia first. Dont allow them to set foot anywhere outside Liberia.
Theyve feathered their nests long enough off their backs.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 17:25 | 5173019 Spigot
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The reality is that equitorial Africa is, essentially, vast hordes of illiterate, ignorant, superstitious, sub-peasants overlorded by a very small film of "educated" natives. IE - the "educated class" were set up to sign international mining and drilling contracts and to accept millions and billions in 'compensation' for turning over their nations wealth to western powers, and now eastern powers. There is no way to comprehend it if you've never seen it in action. There is no real healthcare, education, sanitation, anything. Believe NOTHING of the information which is coming out of Africa with regard to Ebola. It's all window dressing to make it look pretty. Director of Samaritan's Purse stated the problem is 4x larger than the numbers being published.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:39 | 5171276 Fix It Again Timmy
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Well, the WMD that Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and Colin Powell have been looking for has SHOWN up!  Where's the coalition of the willing?  Where's the shock and awe?  Where's the mobilization?...

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:40 | 5171278 williambanzai7
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Is there an opportunity for a Presidential golf trip?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:02 | 5171388 Tall Tom
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Perhaps an African tour?

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 12:31 | 5171519 CuttingEdge
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Maybe "homecoming" would be more appropriate.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 14:01 | 5172001 lakecity55
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In Liberia!

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 13:47 | 5171898 Cpl Hicks
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There is ALWAYS an opportunity for a presidential golf trip.

Tue, 09/02/2014 - 11:43 | 5171282 q99x2
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A subsidary of Monsanto reportedly has a vaccine for Ebola.

Monsanto, or Monsatan as many call them, has partnered with the Department of Defense to use a proxy third party company to develop a vaccine against Ebola. The seed money began at $1.5 million. The value of the deal could grow to an estimated $86 million dollars. The company’s name is Tekmira Pharmaceuticals Corporation (TKMR) (TKM.TO), a leading developer of RNA interference (RNAi) therapeutics. “TKM-Ebola, an anti-Ebola virus RNAi therapeutic, is being developed under a $140 million contract with the U.S. Department of Defense’s Medical Countermeasure Systems BioDefense Therapeutics (MCS-BDTX) Joint Product Management Office”.  As breaking and shocking of a news story as this has the potential to be, the real story is that this is not the most important part of the Ebola threat which has invaded the United States.

William H. Gates Sr., former head of eugenics group Planned Parenthood

Bill Gates' father, William H. Gates Sr., has long been involved with the eugenics group Planned Parenthood, a rebranded organization birthed out of the American Eugenics Society. In a 2003 interview with PBS' Bill Moyers, Bill Gates admitted that his father used to be the head of Planned Parenthood, which was founded on the concept that most human beings are just "reckless breeders" and "human weeds" in need of culling (http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_gates.html).

Gates also admitted during the interview that his family's involvement in reproductive issues throughout the years has been extensive, referencing his own prior adherence to the beliefs of eugenicist Thomas Robert Malthus, who believed that populations of the world need to be controlled through reproductive restrictions. Though Gates claims he now holds a different view, it appears as though his foundation's initiatives are just a modified Malthusian approach that much more discreetly reduces populations through vaccines and GMOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus).

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035105_Bill_Gates_Monsanto_eugenics.html##ixzz3CAnq3frt

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