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Current Ebola Epidemic Death Count Surpasses All Previous Outbreaks Combined
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- *EBOLA DEATH TOLL REACHES 1,900; CASES SURPASS 3,500, WHO SAYS
- *EBOLA OUTBREAK HAS MORE DEATHS THAN ALL PAST OUTBREAKS COMBINED
Perhaps, when Doctors-Without-Borders and the World Health Organization start speaking in panicced terms about 'out of control' outbreaks, 'global crisis', 'world is losing battle', due to 'lethally inadequate' responses; that it's time for the west to start getting involved (as opposed to sending humanitarian advisers to Iraq and Ukraine).
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Good thread at Godlike Productions: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2513431/pg384
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/09/02/ebola-outbreaks-unrelated-in-west-africa-and-democratic-republic-of-congo/
In this case, the trend is not your friend.
I'm convinced this thing has gone airborne and governements and health orgs don't want to admit it yet because they have no clue how to stop it.
No one in, no one out. Burn the bodies. But they're still alive, you say?
Living, breathing, virus incubation chambers now.
Bill Gate's wet dream
zombiiiiiiiiiiiiies, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
### previously, on TMC the walking dead ###
AMC!
There fixed it!
Ebola will put an end to scarcity.
Exponential growth can never be sustained so when does this top out at 60 thousand or 60 million? Fruit bats and other critters are the reservoir population and you can bet they've picked up this strain and can pass it on again at some later date. Have a nice day!
What about Mosquitos? What are we not being told????
Gee I couldn't guess. So what do you think we are not being told?
Given the odds -- and this being a blog devoted to biological research and disease control -- you are probably an expert on the subject of disease vectors, right?
So fill us in.
Yowza. Now that's a scary thought. The (think) tiger mosquito that causes the dengue came in on freight. You are a scary guy to think of that but good thinking:)
The growth rate starts to slow when 20-30% of the population are infected-no matter what the disease.
It's simply that the contagion finds it harder and harder to find the uninfected as they get scarcer and smarter.
The absolute number of the infected continues to grow, but at a decreasing rate.
That's called burning itself out.
This is not the one. The next one is probably the one.
Cougar...multiple up arrows for your take. It probably will not be the current strain of 250-350 mutations. That roundhouse punch that no one sees will make its appearance in 2015-2017, go global and deadly. No time for R&D.
Yes, the same 1-2 punch that heralded the Spanish Influenza
If this breaks containment in India or China you'll need to add some zeros.
Doubling every month means at June 2016 there will be 4 Billion dead......mostly Arabs, blacks and yellows......makes you think a bit as to what is really happening.
It cannot double every month except that it keeps finding new areas free of infection.
Which at the moment it seems unable to do without human help.
We can stop helping it at any time. We have not so far, but we eventually will.
Doubling every month means at June 2016 there will be 4 Billion dead......mostly Arabs, blacks and yellows......makes you think a bit as to what is really happening.
In it's current form ebola can be easily contained in India and China. I'm sure they are already prepared to do that.
You'll probably never hear about it.
The trouble is these things tend to be "sticky" and go in waves, if history is any indication. The first wave might be licked, but I'm more concered that it may establish a new territory for itself to emerge from in the future.
...Cougar...much good input from everyone on the board. Am impressed with all the due dilligence and wide range of inputs. Even the zany takes exhibit an outta-the-box thinking.
Ebola in INDIA and Asia. Having lived in the region for the past 10 years, let me refine your comment: India will get hammered and China will mount a Great Wall of Detection, Inspection and Quarantine. The Chinese will shoot any suspected carrier on sight. No questions. China would've already executed the Guinean student who fled to Dakar, Senegal --being a Johnny Appleseed of Death. The clown lied multiple times to many layers of authorities: border officials, doctors and even close "folks" traveling with him. Such disgrace. He knew he had serious ebola exposure and dcecided to share his joy.
China will be shooting many on sight if it comes to that. India, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and PI? It would not take much to ignite a maelstorm. Look to India being the canary in the coal mine. Mumbai, Delhi and/or Kalkutta go HOT and game over for Asia. Indians eat with their hands, no utensils employed. No ready access to potable water, unless you count the Ganges River with floating, bloated corpses a daily deal. Hand Sanitizers? No way. India is beyond slammed with humanity. More dense that Africa. Plus---as an added bonus, the India Gov't called back all its citizens from West Africa. "Bringing their folks home." Really? I'd call that "spore."
Thailand? I've heard three good gems recently from friends living in Bangkok.
1) "Whos is Ebola?"
2) There won't be ebola in Thailand because it is not allowed."
3) Official Thai Policy, 1st Line of Defense "all carriers of ebola must register with the Department of Health."
Plus, China has formiable winter weather lacking in India and other Asian countries. China is really a canary in the coal mine for Europe, Canada, and USA.
This ride is just beginning.....
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Thanks for the additional color. I'm not going to contest any of your points, each is well made.
I was of course simplifying things in my comment. But I will point out one reason I may be correct RE India. India is heavily stratified internally, and the people who would be making business trips to Africa are probably not going to be transmitting ebola into poor segments of India society. It could make that jump, but it would be a big jump. Also these travellers will have better access to healthcare, and the healthcare won't be the mud-hut variety we see in Africa but reasonably modern western-style healthcare based on a pathogenic theory of disease, implying an underlying concept of disease control via isolation, this being very important in managing outbreaks into new areas. I could be very wrong about India, in which case you are right they will be in for a very tough time when ebola arrives.
That said, your insights on China are spot-on. Which begs another question; since people with possible infection will (eventually) expect to be shot-on-sight, will they escape into the countryside and try to hide at the least sign of symptoms? They are business travellers into Africa, they have money, contacts and means, and they understand diseases. If so then a zero tolerance Chinese policy will almost instantly back-fire (pun intended) by causing people to take their disease into the very same kinds of shadow zones that the WHO have been pointing to as being a big problem in Africa. Maybe that will work out, maybe not. It could go very badly indeed. China might end up in as big a trouble as Africa simply because they over-react and push people right out of the disease control structures their nation is capable of deploying.
All of this is interesting speculation. We will see as things unfold if humanity does the correct thing in careful contemplation of results, or the wrong thing in expediency.
Cougar....touche' on the additonal colour.
May I stretch things a bit. True, there are many well-heeled Indian businessmen declining to travel to Africa (confirmed with Indian head wobble if you have been to India).
[Digression: read "Holy Cow" by Sarah McDonald. You will cry laughing.]
Besides the well-heeled, there are many grunts just laboring for a paycheck in the mines and factories. Indians make fine soldiers and excellent workers---once inspirted. FAMILY rules all in Asia. We have maybe 1/80th of what constitutes "family" in Asia. Mind boggling.
Okay, what does this have to do with ebola? Just following up skiens of leads leading to a cultural trait. "How well will perform in the heat of battle?"
Indians are incredibly resilent. They take nothing for granted and are innately street smart. Their surgeons are the world's best, imho.
The tough nut that India has to crack that has failed in Africa? Hygiene.
Soap. Running semi-clean water. New habits of even washing hands needs to be acculturated. . Hands always in food? Sorry, if India goes e-tits up, the next beachead is Hong Kong and Shanghai. The Chinese police state gets ramped up.
Anyone who has ever lived throughout Asia knows that one is always being observed, Yes, I am watched daily by thousands of pairs of eyes. Any falang is. We are a source of curiosity. Does this bug me? Not at all, it is comforting.
You begin doing "tamboon" good deeds as a second reflex. You pick up the tab ($6 USD) for a full stable of diners...$1 per meal plate. Fresh. Food is a religion in Asia. All else secondary. You buy fruit and take it to elderly kon Tai. By paying an extra $1USD to your favorite food cart or stall, it is Tai Social Secuirty. Your overpayment allows the chef 2-3 free meals for those in need. It is done out of sense of duty to Buddha, good karma and basic humaness.
You bet the scale of humanity in Asia is so dense, one is liv ing, breathing Blade Runner. Except on steroids. The place is riveting and any illness will blow a hole through humanity.
My fervent hope is that the FujiFilm ebola cure can make a dent with its 20,000 dose being currently enroute.... And that Africa grants us all a cure, for now....kicking that can again.....
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/engineer-under-observation-for-...
"Perhaps, when Doctors-Without-Borders and the World Health Organization start speaking in panicced terms about 'out of control' outbreaks, 'global crisis', 'world is losing battle', due to 'lethally inadequate' responses; that it's time for the west to start getting involved"
I know I'm too cynical...when I read this I hear "you better give WHO, CDC and Doctors-Without-Borders a lot of money" or it's going to get very scary.
So not only have we decided to be the worlds self appointed police force, along with the worlds homeless shelter...we're also concluding that we need to be the worlds hospital and nurse.....great. What's our debt at now? Are we to $17T yet?
Antifaschistische
agree with your take. Let me enlarge your fine start...you bet-- the WHO bonus checks are already pledged to a new yacht moored in Ibiza.
Read that declaration one more time "...countries with rapid response teams must contribute."
Called "conscription." You bet it is on the horizon. My bet is that Amerikan prisoners suddenly fill a need "...get to work at the front lines in Ebolaville." I've told many close PAs, Doc and nurse practioners nearing retirement to erase their identity. They, too, will be pressed into deadly duty. Without a cure.....uhm why bother? I know harsh...but there comes a time when a lifeguard must abandon the rescuee as too far gone." This is not easy for anyone, but better for one to live. We owe a debt to Africa for all the resources me have made off with over the centuries.
Basically, we are afraid and do not wish to get involved. Really, we want you to scale up village-ebola-approach where everyone dies and the variant loses hosts. So what if the scale is a continent? We'll bring the marshmallows.
A huge majority in the West want Africa to go into the corner and die a quiet death. Go ahead send us repulsive photographs to ease our guilt. Maybe we'll send some bucks...but times are tough all over.
We'd all just as soon hide behind some nefarious conspiracy theory that will be proved bona fide. Our iota quota is filled up, sorry. Can't be bothered.
Perhaps you are being cynical because you are ignorant of what was actually said by the MSF director...
I stand here today, as the president of a medical humanitarian organization on the front lines of this outbreak since it emerged. My colleagues have cared for more than two thirds of the officially declared infected patients. Even as we have doubled our staff over the last month, I can tell you that they are completely overwhelmed.
Médecins Sans Frontières has been ringing alarm bells for months, but the response has been too little, too late. The outbreak began six months ago, but was only declared a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern” on August 8.
While funding announcements, roadmaps, and finding vaccines and treatments are welcome, they will not stop the epidemic today.
...
Many of the Member states represented here today have invested heavily in biological threat response. You have a political and humanitarian responsibility to immediately utilize these capabilities in Ebola-affected countries.
To curb the epidemic, it is imperative that States immediately deploy civilian and military assets with expertise in biohazard containment. I call upon you to dispatch your disaster response teams, backed by the full weight of your logistical capabilities. This should be done in close collaboration with the affected countries.
...
The following must be prioritized:
Scaling up isolation centers;
Deploying mobile laboratories to improve diagnostic capabilities;
Establishing dedicated air bridges to move personnel and equipment to and within West Africa;
Building a regional network of field hospitals to treat suspected or infected medical personnel.
...
Coercive measures, such as laws criminalizing the failure to report suspected cases, and forced quarantines, are driving people underground. This is leading to the concealment of cases, and is pushing the sick away from health systems. These measures have only served to breed fear and unrest, rather than contain the virus.
UN member states cannot focus solely on measures to protect their own borders. Only by battling the epidemic at its roots can we stem it.
http://www.msf.org/article/msf-international-president-united-nations-sp...
They want the military also deployed in these 'humanitarian' efforts to stave off [read:shoot] Africans who attack Ebola treatment centers and drag everything, even mattresses still caked with feces and dried blood, off to their residences. Last weekend Africans were still chanting "There is no Ebola" as they attacked health care workers and stole vital equipment from another treatment center. How do you adminster treatment to a large population who does not believe the virus exists? Easy. Bring in the military.
Hopefully, this plague will wipe out the world's plague of Africans. They really don't deserve to live on this planet.
And you do?
Wish I could downvote this guy 2x
The scary part is that there are people that believe this shit, on all sides of the fences.
Ass.
Is Ebola airborne?
http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/under-microscope/pigs-and-primates-ad...
and ...
http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2014/08/03/are-we-sure-ebola-isnt-airb...
Since yesterday’s post, several people have asked me on various social media outlets about the airborne nature of Ebola. Didn’t I know about this paper (“Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates“), which clearly showed that Ebola could go airborne?
Indeed I do–I wrote about that paper two years ago, and it in no way changes my assertion that Ebola doesn’t spread between people in an airborne manner.
...
*However*, the kicker was not that Ebola is transmitted by air in human outbreaks, but rather that there may be something unique about pig physiology that allows them to generate more infectious aerosols as a general rule–so though aerosols aren’t a transmission route between primates (including humans, as well as non-human primates used experimentally), pigs may be a bigger threat as far as aerosols. Thus, this may be important for transmission of swine influenza and other viruses as well as Ebola.
So unless you’re sitting next to an Ebola-infected pig, seriously, airborne transmission of Ebola viruses isn’t a big concern.
PacOps would YOU work in a Ebola breakout area without respiratory protection ?
I would not be there in the first place. To answer you directly if I were - no.
However, no one seems to have an absolute answer on airborne and the aerosolized Ebola.
It would seem tho that one would have to be very close (inches) and inhaling while the infected individual sneezed in your face. But I have no interest in running an experiment to confirm one way or another.
From what I've read most of the medical personnel who've contracted ebola either did so before they knew the patient had it, didn't have the correct protection, gloves and other garb, or didn't use that protection correctly. Africa's hot, let me lower my mask for a bit. Which of us haven't been hit by a stray sneeze? And how washed down can you be to be totally clean at the microscopic level? If you were dealing with millions of microbes daily, and weren't applying the protection, or a patient hadn't exihibited symptoms, but was a carrier, I can see how this would spread among health care workers...
Research has proven virus does exist and travel in large droplets of boby fluid, like a sneeze that produces fairly large droplets. Animals in seperate cages in the same lab contracted Ebola with NO physical contact. Proven in a several year old BBC report on the research.
Virus very small, droplets big enough to hold enough of it to infect. Lungs and sinus are a perfect route.
You are right. They need spacesuits, something with biohazard air filtering. A supercrash program to make these is needed asap.
We have a winner!
The American doctor who caught Ebola in Liberia and survived to tell the tale. I know this is ZH but this is one heart warming tale, thanks to a mysterious American drug that is not available for the poor or the needy.
Ebola survivor sits down for first TV interview
I think the drug is 'batting' 2 for 3 right now, so not a total miracle. The American doctor and nurse have have had superior health and nutrition relative to the natives. These things are necessary to fight off any disease, IMHO.
The miracle from my standpoint is that it appears that the recalled medical personnel did not infect any Americans, so kudos to the people in Georgia who 'handled' them.
2/3 or 66% survival rate. The survival rate for the infected IN AFRICA is 50%. With better care IN THE US, the survival rate would be expected to be >50% perhaps 66%???. In conclusion, 3 cases is too small of a sample to draw definitive conclusions on it's efficacy.
Hey, but let's thank Dubaibanker for bringing up socioeconomic issues totaly unrelated to the issue at hand. I'm sure he is willing to donate all his wealth to research and to distribute this "miracle cure".
"for bringing up socioeconomic issues totaly unrelated to the issue at hand."
Can you please enlighten as to how Ebola patient getting treated becomes a socio-economic issue and how is a confirmed Ebola patient who has fully recovered, not related to the issue of Ebola epidemic??
Have you not heard that US Govt did not want to release this drug to certain countries but released it to Nigeria?
"Can you please enlighten as to how Ebola patient getting treated becomes a socio-economic issue"
It doesn't. You brought it up which is why I called you out on it. You said, "thanks to a mysterious American drug that is not available for the poor or the needy." You are implying that it is not available to the poor and needy (but perhaps available to the rich and well-connected?), when in fact it is available to nobody except for 3 experimental cases. You seem to be sympathizing with the "poor and needy" and while this experimental treatment is not yet available, you seem to be preemptively chastising pharmaceutical companies for not making it available to the "poor and needy".
If the 3 US patients can be treated, then the 'poor and needy' people from Liberia or Sierra Leone could also be treated on the same experimental basis. That is all. Nigeria got it from Japan.
Liberia did eventually receive it on an experimental basis.
Humanity should take over, even though the pharma companies would lose some revenues, but they could recover some of it from Govts that they would support or from higher goodwill and free marketing.
I wish I could down-vote you 10,000 times.
1) There are ethical questions to be adressed when experimenting with new drugs or treatments
2) There are legal questions to be adressed when experimenting with new drugs or treatments.
3) Nothing is stopping YOU and people like you to dontating all your wealth to help these people. Please do so. I won't stop you. But don't think for a second that you have some moral high ground because you want to force other people to pay for the help you don't wan't to pay for.
4) Pharma companies provide products that take billions of dollars and many hours of work to develop . These are not charities. They provide a services that benefit many billions of people. Fuck you if you think that they should give away their labor for free or be forced to do so by the point of a gun.
5) It's so nice of you that you think government should force employees of pharma companies to act as slaves and then later maybe decide how much of thier labor should be reimbursed.
You live in la-la land. Keep pretending to be so righteous. You and your other SJW friends can have a big circle jerk.
Yeah, you can hardly tell that he's got a fever-induced brain damage.....
He had a 50-50 chance of surviving anyway. His living doesn't prove the drug works. Just ask the spanish priest they buried recently.
He would be a fountain of ideas.
Dubebunker 0 / The Replacment 1
Don''t forget, he also received a blood transfusion from a survivor. I'm not sure his recovery had anything to do with the drug he received. I don't know that there's any way of knowing whether he recovered from antibodies in the blood transfusion, the drug that was administered, or if he just recovered on his own as 50% plus do.
Doesn't the mortality rate drop to around 50% or so, without the miracle drug,
when the patient can receive modern hospital care, fever control, etc.?
If so, it is somewhat premature to claim that the "miracle drug" works at all,
or, even if granted that it does work, that it raises the odds of survival by
more than a few percentage points.
Then by all means rush it to the "poor and needy" --for free---
at this trajectory, when will the death toll hit 1,900,000 or 1,900,000,000. cure for economic excess
I think the WHO needs a new slogan. How about "WHO Cares?"
The good thing is we get to re-draw the peak oil curves.
"when will the death toll hit"
Won't.
Rumor is Google is working on an app for its "glass" device called "virus buster" that will identify the infected. Anyone turning red via the screen should be avoided.
By cross referencing NSA tracking lists it can automatically turn ZH followers red as well. Our tax dollars are well spent.
Sounds too much like Plague, Inc. IMO
Wouldn't trust the site.
All I'm saying is be careful
Why, because 99% of the stuff there is complete bullshit?
Only 92.3%, if I've told you once I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!
Some decent sources for Ebloa information here:
https://www.internationalsos.com/ebola/index.cfm
http://virologydownunder.blogspot.com/
http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/
Its also the home of Disinfo (as are many, if not most, places on the web).
Speaking of homes. I'm waiting a while before buying my next house just to see how this all plays out. Could be so real bargains out there fairly soon... even though the NAR keeps telling me day after day, month after month that TODAY is the best day to buy a new home.
I just hope for you that your dollars are still worth a shit when that time comes....
If this takes off who will need dollars? Removing the previous owners might be a bit icky though.
Your right!! My real estate agent tells me every day if I don't buy like RIGHT NOW, the pirce will goto infinity.. I will need infinity dollars in various denominations to even make the down payment :)
Ebola, Teloda, Secoda.. Tomato, Tomato..
British Airways will save us they will *never* fly an infected yet to vector patient out of Monrovia, Liberia even through the virus is totally and completely out of control. They'll never arrive safely here then get sick and become the phantom ebola puker in the mall..
Delta just reported some sucky numbers today bringing the airlines down... wonder if this Ebola situtation has anything to do with it on the margin?? Give it time, and airlines will get crushed with a capital K!
I clicked on the godlike link and it said that I was banned. Even referenced my IP address. That's strange cause I don't remember ever making anti Semitic remarks on that website.
They ban whole IP blocks, so odds are someone with the same ISP got banned.
It's not just anti-semitic remarks that will get you nuked, there's a list of keywords that will result in an autoban, and the names of a couple psyop/astroturn companies are among them.
Yup. Got banned for calling the owner a pious ass because of one of his tirades at another member's post that he didn't agree with. But you got to enjoy the yellow news network approach- it's freedom baby!
It's not a government conspiracy, it's the usual nonsense forum moderators and owners have to deal with. They get short fuses and tired of the bullshit, and ban people and IPs due to their own personal belief systems.
You are free to create and run and host your own forum. No one is stopping you.
Or just post the word "Tavistock" and let the problem solve itself.
Remember, folks, abovetopsecret, godlikeproductions, and lunaticoutpost all went down (to the minute) during the government web shutdown. Cover stories of DDoS attacks don't hold water due to the precision of the timing.
a nice summary of the thread with most interesting quotes would have been nice
It appears it will go exponential by year end.
Looks like we are already there to me.
I stopped shaking hands and hugging... going 100% fist pump baby! Yeah, that's right!!!!
MSF has requested specific resources. So far, no agency is stepping up to provide this level of support... Although WHO, CDC, etc. are unanimous in stating that "something MUST be done".
- Scaling up isolation centers;
- Deploying mobile laboratories to improve diagnostic capabilities;
- Establishing dedicated air bridges to move personnel and equipment to and within West Africa;
- Building a regional network of field hospitals to treat suspected or infected medical personnel.
Source: http://www.msf.org/article/msf-international-president-united-nations-sp...
I'm pretty sure fisting is a mode of transmission.
Bottoms up!
Hmmm, yeah, good point. Ok, no fisting. Just attempted geeky white-boy uncoordinated high fives that never connect.
Just give the "bro nod" instead
followed by a "sup".
Could be CIA Operation to slow down Chinese Relationships in Africa... to slow down contracts... to slow down extraction of resources?
R² = 0,9724
nuff said.
We'll see if that holds. Let's hope not.
The media is way more interested in this..
http://news.msn.com/us/gay-group-to-march-in-nyc-st-patricks-day-parade
Pandemic here we come...
I'm more interested in whether those celeb nudes show the hunger games chick on all fours.
That's some bite the lip and rub one out material.
pods
links or its not true
All fours, but from side profile. There's a good one of her straddling a couch though.
I can't wait to get to Ruby Tuesday's open salad bar! Mmmmmm, (cough, sneeze, cough) community salad bars!!!!
link or it's not true
Already posted in a thread from yesterday: http://imgur.com/a/S4EdB
The provenance of a few of the photos is iffy, but most are actually her and she's confirmed so.
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/ir/esq-jennifer-lawrence-030113-xlg.jpg
Hunger...games
Everyone providing links will be sued to kingdom-cum.
Pirate bay torrent. It's there.
It's also on Mega.
LOL there are a couple of her with a messy sticky face.
Time for Merika to do what it does best..... drop some humanitarian bombs.
Victoria Nuland can better spread "Democracy" that way. Never let a good crisis go to waste
So I'm still a little confused, is this Ebola thing Putin's fault or Bush's?
You have to go back further - Ford's fault.
This Ebola thing has Al Sharpton written all over it!!!! Yep!
We'll blame ISIS this round
I'm still more worried about what the US government is going to do in response to the ongoing slide back into a reccession in a depression than Ebola.
pods
Standard global war. Nothing new.
Which is perfectly sensible.
The same thing they always do - lie.
Looks like the corporations are serious this time!
Go corporations!
From Dr. Joan Lie, International President of MSF:
“To curb the epidemic, it is imperative that States immediately deploy civilian and military assets with expertise in biohazard containment. I call upon you to dispatch your disaster response teams, backed by the full weight of your logistical capabilities. This should be done in close collaboration with the affected countries.”
“Without this deployment, we will never get the epidemic under control.”
Source: http://www.msf.org/article/msf-international-president-united-nations-sp...
From CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden:
“What I saw was a continuing need to strengthen the health care system by increasing the number of treatment centers, providers, access to supplies; as well as a need to improve clinical management by handwashing, infection control, and other methods,” said Dr. Frieden. “I went to a new ward that opened with 35 beds – and in less than a week they had 63 patients, many lying on the floor. There is a need for data to better trace where Ebola is beginning to spread. And there is a basic need for infrastructure like trucks, jeeps and motorcycles. Perhaps most importantly, there is need for a functional emergency operations center at either the national or the district levels directing an efficient response.”
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0902-ebola-epidemic.html
Frieden knows none of that is going to happen. He's saying what he is saying for two reasons. First, as an approach to CYA since if things get very ugly (global pandemic) he can refer back to his earlier comments as evidence that it was not the CDCs and the WHO that didn't get it. And second, he wants everyone making poolicy to understand the scope of the challenge. No you do not send money, first you send expertise. You then build capacity at the site, you institutionalize controls, you build response teams from local elements "teaching them how to fish".
So yeah, it will never happen. Just never.
And he knows that. I can see it in his face when he talks, he knows it's all needful and necessary and that it will never happen ever in the entire remaining history of human kind.
We're that stupid.
Agreed on all points.
God, that's depressing.
Frieden would be the first CDC director who says (sounds like Oboma, "we don't do things like that in the 21st century" aka The Country Club Golf Director's Statement) that, regarding quarantines for these countries and shutting down travel from them that "we don't treat people like that anymore."
Frieden believes, just as all liberals do, that They get to decide about placing you, your family, and your country in harm's way from these epidemics.
It's not enough that they don't "discriminate" against those with leprosy and tuberculosis, but let them into the US as immigrats even though They Know that they dont' go get treatment because the fear the stigmitization of their own community. India has a terrible (and unreported in mainstream press) problem with leprosy. But hey, You aren't allowed to decide that, just maybe, you don't want to be in contact with leprosy carriers. Of course, they also always say that it's "very hard to catch." Ah, shucks and swell. Why didn't ya just say so? Can we shake hands?!
Frieden is so stupid that even was the gay community "contributes" 50,000 PLUS new Aids carriers every year (and that is only the identified ones), he never says to the gay community, "You will stop transmitting this disease or we will take severe steps." No no no. The ever incfreasing cost of health care is irrelevant. The demand of the gay community to contribute possibly tainted blood doesn't matter either. All is politically correct. You are grist for their mill.
And as to Bill Gates, who is one of the ten creepiest looking guys on the planet, he was sitting next to his 75-year-old father when he very specifically said about health care that "if you are 75-years old and need a kneee replacement then you may not get it."
Don't cha love it when billionaires, especially ones no woman would touch if they weren't billionaires, tell you to live in pain to your death?
Wouldn't it be somepin if Frieden, who has said we shouldn't shut down air travel to Africa because we don't "do things that way anymore," came down with Ebola? OR did he wear a badge that said, "I'm from the CDC and I'm here to help you..." Snort.
Ebenezer Scrooge would approve, to "Decrease the surplus population".
Though he did eventually change his mind. Didn't he.
anyone see a black swan?
I shot two or three of them yesterday. Yum, black swan and sweet potato pie.
They will pay attention when nigeria stops shipping oil.
Fact.
Funny thing is I have customers that are in the oil business that just came home from a month(s) long duty. Kind of worried about that.
There is not going to be a response because it is one of a 1000 asymmetrical NWO/Bankster warfare actions against the populations of the world. Setting fire to the planet makes it easy for the banksters to come in and mop it up.
We are under attack bitchez. Anyone want to do something about it yet?
By all means, give us your best ideas on what you would propose. All the complaints are pretty mcuh the same, I'd love to hear a good solution. You got one?
Who said "the first thing we need to do is kill all the lawyers"? That might be a good place to start?
How about all the big "stars" get together and put on a nice big benefit concert? Those things always fix everything.
The stars are all busy fixing the security settings on their iCloud accounts.
Now THAT is a fool's errand.
PS - Anyone at all surprised that the nude pics hack has devolved into a discussion about what kind of "pervert" would do such a thing... instead of an informed discussion about security in the cloud? LMAO.
I looked up Jennifer Lawrence nude.. Nice muffin on that girl :)
Running a headline that says like 'Jennifer Lawrence Nude' probably saw google search terms for that up more percentage points than the deficit.
Start with the oligarchs who own all the lawyers and politicians.
Mike -- no, I haven't a clue. I say let it hit the fan.
I don't think we have much choice. Hitting the fan looks baked in the cake now. I ask only because of the tiresome pattern of those who urge revolution at the slightest provocation with no thought as to what's next after the blood is crusted and the lungs are filled with smoke. Civilization will be sorely missed once cremated.
"In former days, when wars arose from individual causes, from the policy of a Minister or the passion of a King, when they were fought by small regular armies of professional soldiers, and when their course was retarded by the difficulties of communication and supply, and often suspended by the winter season, it was possible to limit the liabilities of the combatants. But now, when mighty populations are impelled on each other, each individual severally embittered and inflamed—when the resources of science and civilisation sweep away everything that might mitigate their fury, a European war can only end in the ruin of the vanquished and the scarcely less fatal commercial dislocation and exhaustion of the conquerors. Democracy is more vindictive than Cabinets. The wars of peoples will be more terrible than those of kings." Winston Churchill
Ghandi called for a national strike. I think he called it a day of mourning to take the politics out of it, but he shut India down and the British government caved pretty quickly.
"because it is one of a 1000 asymmetrical NWO/Bankster warfare actions"
Delusion.
open new discount airlines from Liberia to Tel Aviv?
I say we send Bono and Gates on the first plane to Liberia.
Then, we can finally know if he found what he's looking for, or if it will be contained with, or without him.
Apparently this is a contained sub-prime illness.
Now the Health workers are not going to show up for work....so all you get is your mom or grandmother to take care of you...and then they get it ..and spred it to the whole family...and town...going to get worse as the people will not listen to advise...and so it goes...
Really sad. All coping jokes aside. Really damn sad.
And the OCCUPATION GOVERNMENT that runs the USSA has permitted thousands of African "students" to come into the US for college, nations KNOWN to have ebola.
I tell you that the people you pay taxes to, and their Bosses, who are NOT Obama, want you DEAD.
That is why you are taxed so heavily, FUNDING your own DEMISE.
Wide open borders, even after 9-11. THAT speaks volumes.
Perfect time for a massive holocaust via "experimental vaccine", that has already been hyped.
Using Tyler's figures, tentative smoothed new case rate:
3 Sep 14 - 71/day
Morbidity: 54%
Partial: 5.3% per day
http://rocs.hu-berlin.de/D3/ebola/
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/estimating-the-reproduction-n...