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ISIS Threatens Putin, Caliphate In Chechnya; Kadyrov Responds "You Will Be Destroyed"

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ISIS threats, it would appear, are not limited to President Obama and his American allies. RIA is reporting that Russian leaders are seeking to cut access to an ISIS video posted that threatens Putin (for ties to Assad), and plans to liberate (via Caliphate) Chechnya, and calls the Chechnyan leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, a Putin puppet. The Chechnya leader took to Instagram to respond slamming "these bastards have no relation to Islam," and exclaiming if they try to threaten Russia or Chechnya "you will be destroyed."

Via Memri,

Vladimir Putin was directly and personally threatened by extremist Islamic terror group ISIS because of his close ties to Syrian leader Bashar Hafez al-Assad, and will liberate Chechnya and Caucasus...

 

Via Ramzan Kadyrov's Instagram,

Terrorists from Syria, who call themselves "Islamic state", expressed the children's threat to go to war in Chechnya and the Caucasus. They say only what they charge the owners of the secret services of the West. These bastards have no relation to Islam. They are outspoken enemies of Muslims around the world. Naive people decided to threaten the two planes Chechnya and Russia.

They can sit two thousand aircraft, but will reach Russia. All under the control of the United States the country announced sanctions and Russia have achieved nothing, and then some unwashed felon decided to distinguish themselves, taking on the role of the pug.

I state with full responsibility that the one who had the idea to express a threat to Russia and say the name of the President of the country Vladimir Putin, will be destroyed, where he did it.

We will not wait until he sits behind the wheel of the aircraft. He will go to the place where his brothers rot terrorist Khattab, Abu Walid, and other messengers of the West. That we are on the path of Allah and His Prophet (pbuh) said to us the first President of the Czech Republic, Hero of Russia Akhmad-Hadji Kadyrov. This way Gazavat in Allah's way of destroying those cursed Messenger (pbuh).

We completely destroyed them in Chechnya, where their forces numbered tens of thousands of people, and now will destroy those who even come to mind askance look at Chechnya is Russia.

I want to remind everyone who is planning something against our country, that Russia has a worthy sons, ready to fulfill any order, wring the neck of any enemy in his own lair, wherever he may be. And we find ourselves with happiness rid the world of these scum. Themselves militants in Syria and Iraq is nothing in itself does not represent. Bandits, trained and armed by the United States and the West to destroy their hands strong and resource-rich Islamic countries.

They have no idea what the Quran and the Sunnah. I emphasize that they finish their days under the hot sun in Syria and Iraq, and in the first instant of death meet their eternal flames of Hell. Allahu Akbar!

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So ISIS is an equal opportunity terrorist after all...

 

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Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:44 | 5174913 Winston Churchill
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Here we go.

Putin's next move.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:46 | 5174921 SafelyGraze
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"brace yourself for what's coming, you pig"

- video translation

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:47 | 5174927 GetZeeGold
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ISIS Threatens Putin

 

HA HA......oh really?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:52 | 5174943 MeMongo
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ISIS= Israeli creation!

Nuff said!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:00 | 5174986 outamyeffinway
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Have they threatened Israel yet? Seems odd not too.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:09 | 5175008 bigdumbnugly
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interesting the difference in response from a person sporting a set of balls from one who does not.

 

if i didn't know better i would've simply chalked it up to the basic difference in genders.

 

but that doesn't apply here i guess...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:18 | 5175060 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Ha ha ha ha ha..... ISIS wants its' members to get close to their 72 virgins or dudes whatever quickly, don't they? Putin and his cronies would have no regrets exterminating their asses in a heartbeat. 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:28 | 5175128 Joe Trader
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Does this mean there now won't be a democratic independence referendum in Chechnya?!!! *holding breath*

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:51 | 5175247 Keyser
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Putin is not constrained by the mealy-mouthed, leftist, progressive liberal Political Correctness that has consumed the US, so he can say what he means and not beat about the bush.... I VILL KILL YOU... Too bad Oblundo is such a pussy... He makes all of us look bad... 

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:07 | 5175313 strannick
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Just the cover the CIA wants to go after Putin. Cause blaming terrorists is what its all about.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:17 | 5175348 Chupacabra-322
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@ strannick,

You stole my Thunder. It's really the Criminal Pure Evil Psycopathic CIA threatening Putin via their lap dog ISIS.

what a bunch of pussy Ameteurs. Pussy CIA doesn't have the balls to confront Putin straight up. Scum Fucks.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:47 | 5175452 nope-1004
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Exactly!

But a bearded dude in a dress makes for some good TV......  These guys are your "no troops on the ground" that Obummer mentioned.

 

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:10 | 5175541 Four chan
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is is are the real muslims, all the rest are just weak versions of allahs violent cult.

 

religion has always been the problem of man who greated god out of fear and weakness.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:29 | 5175640 The Wizard
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I wonder who is their script writer

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:34 | 5175663 dontgoforit
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As Bugs Bunny would say, "Heh, heh, heh - what a bunch of maroons."

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:45 | 5175705 john39
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meanwhile, right before 911.... "11" airliners captured by "militants" in Libya:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2741428/Officials-warn-ELEVEN-mi...

tptb are telegraphing their plans here...  looking forward to watching them fail.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5175731 Canadian Dirtlump
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Given Leading up to the West's adventurism, Syria had 20+ distinct religious peoples who lived in peace, and godless communism has killed more people in the last century than religion I don't know if I agree with you dwayne.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:42 | 5175989 NihilistZero
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...godless communism has killed more people in the last century than religion...

Sick dictators and their armies killed people, communisim was merely a convienient ideology, just as religion has been during so many crusades.  Neither ideology is causual to violence or peace, the followers of each are responsible for their actions.

That said Atheisim/Agnostisim=Smart ,    Religion=Stupid   ;-)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 14:52 | 5176676 The_Dude
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That is so retarded that I don't even know where to start.....

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 15:35 | 5176835 NihilistZero
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Or maybe it's so intelligent and reasoned it made ypu realize how retarded you are, hence you don't know where to start ;-)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:57 | 5175776 KickIce
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Maybe now we're seeing the real reason ISIS was created?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:33 | 5175940 NihilistZero
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This whole thing comes off like a bad gangsta rap beef.

I expect the next video will be Putin chilling in a strip club, making it rain on a ho, then pulling down his sun glasses to say "Ne delayte etogo" while his security detail flashes their automatic weapons.  WW3 is going to be gangsta niggaz!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:20 | 5175080 gold-is-not-dead
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Guys in the video will end up like Dudayev.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:31 | 5175652 FinalEvent
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Every time I think the world cannot be more fucked up than it already is, we get shit like this.

When is this madness going to end? I want my name to happen, fuck this shit.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:32 | 5175152 Flagit
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It's hard to take a man threatening you, seriously, when he's wearing a dress.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:28 | 5175917 Herd Redirectio...
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You guys know the web site Quora?  They are trying their damndest to convince readers that ISIS is a threat to Israel.  Its quite amusing.  Semi-pro work.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:02 | 5175299 Urban Redneck
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The wanna-be Islamic State just pissed of the head of the Kremlin's Islamic State.

Both sides have a history of stomach turning brutality and aggressive use of social media... time to grab some popcorn.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:18 | 5175585 Kirk2NCC1701
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ISIS puppet:  "We will attack Russia, free Chechnya... Allah willing"

Allah:  "Not willing"

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 18:56 | 5177611 Kassandra
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I'm willing to bet they don't have one, ONE person who could possibly fly that fighter jet. And the damn thing is filthy! It will probably explode if they try to fire it up. Now THAT would be some good video!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 14:29 | 5176575 Tarshatha
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"interesting the difference in response from a person sporting a set of balls from one who does not"

Im quite sure Ramzan Kadyrov's red line will be addressed differently than Barry's. Putin puppet or not, he's one bad bastard.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:10 | 5175020 knukles
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"Allah willing, Allah willing, Allah willing", etc., etc., etc.
Several oddities.
1)  Dear Leader et al, continue to state that ISIS is NOT in any way a Muslim oriented entity, yet they all run about chanting "Allah" this and that.  Must be 7th Day Adventists or Mennonites.  Or selling Girl Scout Cookies
2.) If Allah as they say is such a powerful God, why does he need such level of personal intercession and protection by mere mortals?
Curiosities, as they say.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:19 | 5175071 toady
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These dudes learn nothing from history. Never open a second front, Especially with Russia when winter is coming!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:33 | 5175650 MsCreant
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There is a lot to that isn't there?

It would appear they believe their own bullshit with impunity and don't need to worry about strategy and politics at all. They will just spread and win because they are on the right side of destiny.

Or...

This story is way too "pat" and there is something else big that is out there that we are not supposed to see or know.

Caliphate is cutting through the middle east like butter. Really?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:52 | 5175741 Bay of Pigs
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It makes no sense whatsoever. The whole ISIS and Caliphate is a red herring.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:59 | 5176082 general ambivalent
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IBT:

"Isis Master Plan Revealed: Islamic 'Caliphate' Will Rule Spain, China and Balkans"

So the US has initiated a fictitious war to try and fight on multiple fronts without the enemy knowing. CIA is the Caliphate.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 16:00 | 5176902 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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If you are a bunch of NWO folks you need a universal boogie man to unite everyone against.......

Though I think this time around most no one is buying the bullshit setup unlike Al Qaeda (oil OPEC wing boogie man) and 9/11 as the proxy front for Bush and oil (US wing) at the head of the triumvirate of petro dollar since the muscle aka the Pentagon was moving in to knock Bush out over those Black Eagle Trust Fund securities used to bankrupt the Soviet Union in the 90s that was supposed to come due on 9/12/2001. The third head aka the dolllar aka Federal Reserve/Banking/Israel obviously sided with oil aka Bush since they cleared those securites in such a manner they shut down a DOD ONI investigation into them by destroying the only evidence left by clearing them in a manner that no one would know who was repsonsible for those securities once all the other evidence and records were destroyed by Al Qaeda aka WTC 1,2 and 7 and a plane that flew over and did a 180 to make sure it hit the wing of the Pentagon where the ONI had all their files related to the case stored. It also wiped out a few other cases at the same time that was beneficial to Israel concerning spying on US soil.

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:20 | 5175078 Winston Churchill
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Mormons ,going door to door knuks.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:09 | 5175147 Ghordius
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I don't know what "Dear Leader" is spouting on that, but all ME languages including Arabic and Turkish have a lot of common phrases containing it

example (Turkish): Allahaismarladik, Hoshca kalin : “Goodbye”

“Allahaismarladik” is literally, “I leave you to God’s care”. It is almost the same with “Goodbye” “Goodbye” in English is the clipping of  “God bless you”. See the Bavarian German "Grüss Gott"

I myself picked in Turkey the habit (in the family) to reply to good wishes with "If this is God's will", i.e. Insha'Allah

which is of course very annoying to all the Christian denominations that don't like even to write God and write G*D instead

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:11 | 5175552 samsara
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"which is of course very annoying to all the Christian denominations that don't like even to write God and write G*D instead"

He that shall not be named?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:23 | 5175616 Kirk2NCC1701
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"which is of course very annoying to all the Christian denominations that don't like even to write God and write G*D instead"

Then just call him "Q" instead.  He's never around when you need him, and has a sick sense of humor.  Almost always a pain in the butt, and conversations about Q just waste time, energy, resources and better opportunities.

Starship captains are much better at playing God.  And looking at earth's history... they HAVE.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:24 | 5175364 Lea
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"Dear Leader et al, continue to state that ISIS is NOT in any way a Muslim oriented entity, yet they all run about chanting "Allah" this and that"

Hooting the name of a deity doesn't make you a follower of his faith. I'm sure, if you were paid good money for it, even you could go around chanting "Praise the lord Krishna" when in fact, you're a Mormon.

What he means - and various muslim scholars around the world are also stating - is that these dudes have a very dubious understanding of islamic doctrine, and look suspiciously like non-muslims portraying as muslims. Nobody in the mainstream media listens to them because the sponsors (USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar) want thoses spooks where they are, where they can both scare you and stir beneficial conflicts.

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:07 | 5175806 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Thou shall not kill".  Ah, that one.  As philosopher Carlin noted, "The more "devout" religious extremists are, the more this "Commandment" is... NEGOTIABLE."

"It depends..." is what the subsequent mental and verbal gymnastics typically start with.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:24 | 5175371 Toxicosis
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If that Jehovah is such a powerful deity why does it need an army of christian soldiers to fight its battles for it over the last 2000 years.  Allah, Jehovah, their all make believe to me.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:50 | 5175469 Bananamerican
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When man misinterprets the shadow of God only a fool blames God

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 13:44 | 5176324 ebear
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When men make up stories about scary monsters that don't exist, I know exactly who to blame.  An example of where shooting the messenger is entirely justified.

You are responsible for your beliefs and will answer for them.

Insha" Allah, of course.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:33 | 5175657 Dr Strangemember
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For what it's worth, I don't trust any of man's religions.  However, I do believe in a higher power.  There is a huge difference.  And look at me... I'm almost half lizard!!!!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:10 | 5175845 Yes We Can. But...
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How much do you pay for contact lenses?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 15:50 | 5176910 mc225
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sa-rees-a-taka... sleestack

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:39 | 5175686 Kirk2NCC1701
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When tribes merge, so do their belief systems.  Ancient Jews used to worship a number of 'deities', including Isis, Ra and El(ohim).  How do you think they came up with the name of the Uber-tribe (merger of 12 smaller tribes) to be [drumroll please]... Is Ra El?

Here is a useful video of the History of the desert Jewish 'god': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg

And here is a YT video of the History of the monotheistic "God": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbCSKY9ASlk

BTW, before Muhammad came along, each Arab tribe had its own "god".  500 tribes had 500 gods.  Yeah!

And here's a prediction (Kirk's) for those who worry about a "One-World Government":  If the Zio-Cons succeed in forcing a One-World, by leveraging the US.Gov, NATO, G20 and a "One-World Currency", then you will see the move toward a World Religion.  Guaranteed.  (Because all Rulers throughout history have known that "Religion is useful.  It stabilizes society and keeps the poor from killing the rich".)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:18 | 5175883 Kirk2NCC1701
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"If that Jehovah is such a powerful deity..."

My father (RIP) had a good one:  "Son, if the Pope is Christ's Vicar on Earth, and Heaven is THE ULTIMATE place to be for all eternity, then why does the Pope's medical staff go to such great lengths to keep him from being... 'Pro-mo-ted'?  Ditto for all the Televangelists and religious hustlers."

p.s.  A direct quote from a nearby and very successful car salesman a few months ago, who used to be a Protestant Minister in the Army: "If I can Religion, I can sell cars, I can sell ANYTHING".

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:17 | 5175579 Zymurguy
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Notice how in some videos of these ISIS/ISIL/IS folks their faces are blurred?  Those must be the CIA operatives/agents working with them within their ranks.  That decap video was a total fake.  Foley's sister was just on TV talking about him... coincidentally she happened to be classmates with the Sandy Hook "shooter" but she was using a different name in those videos... hmmm... think she might be an actor (both video interviews were on CNN)?  The NWO has completely taken over the media in ways you haven't let yourself think of.  They are using full on actors, CGI, etc. - they know that slick video productions (like the beheadings) get youth to watch them.  This is all complete and utter bullshit.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:26 | 5175912 Freddie
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Foley's sister "knew" the fictional Adama Lanza who's parents also never existed?

Did she practice her acting with Gene Rosen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfczc6m5M4

All of this shit is so fake.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:21 | 5175085 Grimaldus
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Not familiar with the Qu'ran much are you?

While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."  Bukhari 53:392

A low information condition such as yours elected Barak Obama. Try to do better.

Islam, in whatever form, is a threat. Period. Duh.

Grimaldus

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:02 | 5175280 Buckaroo Banzai
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Islamic scripture openly and repeatedly states that any who oppose it must be converted by force, or subjugated, or murdered. There really isn't anything spiritual about it. It is simply a nihilistic system of political philosophy, with some feelgood bullshit layered on to make it seem palatable to those who are stupid, or not paying attention.

Islam was on a murderous rampage for 800 years until we finally put them back in their hole at the Gates of Vienna. Then we forgot about them for a few hundred years.

Now, they are back.

The Gates of Vienna: the other September 11th.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/other-september-11th.html

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:03 | 5175301 Ghordius
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one billion Muslims following that? when they expanded until they reached France and Austria, did they do that? Or did they just impose a special tax on non-believers?

you seriously need to make a difference between Christians, Jews, Muslims and others and their fundamentalist and extremists versions

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:11 | 5175324 Anarchy 99
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you are correct, taking a trip to Spain and reading their history, the 800 years of Muslim "occupation" resulted in grat progress for Spain, and tolerance for all religions, including Jews, untill the "re-conquista, after that all went to hell under the Vatican rulers and kings.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:02 | 5175509 Anarchy 99
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cone on, you got to be kidding, look at the source.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:43 | 5175449 Buckaroo Banzai
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Either you forgot the /sarc tag, or you need to study history a little more closely. Here's a good place to start:

http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Warriors-Demise-Classical-Civilization/dp/098...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:26 | 5175384 r0mulus
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exactly, it's called jizzya- a special tax on non-believers.

also, the koran states (2:256a): “Let there be no compulsion in religion”.
religious books and religions are super contradictory though by nature and i'm sure they found somewhere in there to say the opposite as well.

like Ghordius says though, many flavors of belief, even within the same religion, almost to the point, where they aren't even close to the same thing. collective punishment is no solution to iterative prisoner's dilemma.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:43 | 5175436 Buckaroo Banzai
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Don't be a retard. As far as Islam is concerned, there is only ONE religion. So interpreting the Koran to mean that it supports tolerance for other religions is nonsensical-- their world is divided into followers of Islam, and unbelievers (infidels). This is made clear when their scripture states, over and over again, that the infidel must be converted, subjugated, or murdered.

There isn't anything contradictory about Islam. The contradictions are simply due to your ignorance.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:09 | 5175537 samsara
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Don't be a retard. As far as Islam is concerned, there is only ONE religion. So interpreting the Koran to mean that it supports tolerance for other religions is nonsensical--

Change the word ISLAM to Fundimental Christian and you would still be correct.

Change it to Orthodox Jew and you STILL be correct...

your point is?  Other than Rock on Judism

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:01 | 5175778 Kirk2NCC1701
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All Monotheistic* religions are by their very definition and essence... INTOLERANT of any competition, intolerant of any other "Deity".  It also means that its Middlemen (ancient Shaman hustlers) have a PERPETUAL MONOPOLY on their power and lifestyle.

As for the "10 Commandments", here is philosopher Carlin's take - eerily insightful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE8ooMBIyC8

* Mono = Greek for "One"

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:43 | 5175993 dracos_ghost
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+100.

Abrahamic monotheism(Jew/Christian/Muslim) is just about product branding. Coke vs Pepsi vs Dr. Pepper. The result of ancient psychopaths that needed the big GOD stick to keep the sheeple in line.

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 14:46 | 5176647 Grimaldus
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Change the word ISLAM to Fundimental Christian and you would still be correct.

Change it to Orthodox Jew and you STILL be correct...

your point is?  Other than Rock on Judism

 

It's quite obvious Islam is at war with all other religions and even with itself. None of the other religions are.

Remember to ask, What would Mohammed do?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/WWMD.htm

No comparison.

Grimaldus

 

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 15:15 | 5176759 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Change the word ISLAM to Fundimental Christian and you would still be correct."

You are quite wrong, and you entirely missed the point of my entire post.

Christian scripture and doctrine is quite clear that people have to FREELY CHOOSE to come to Christ. It is a Christian duty to bring Christ's message to the world, but everyone is free to accept or refuse that information.

That concept is foundational, and is 100% in opposition to Islamic scripture and doctrine.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:53 | 5181411 r0mulus
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koran 2:256a

google it and shut the fuck up with your hyperbole.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:50 | 5175468 Buckaroo Banzai
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"you seriously need to make a difference between Christians, Jews, Muslims and others and their fundamentalist and extremists versions"

Really? I might say the same about you. You are unbelievably ignorant about Christianity if you think that it shares even the slightest resemblance to Islam.

Islam isn't even a fucking religion-- let's start with that. Its a system of political philosophy that has more in common with Marxism or fascism than anything else.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:06 | 5175528 Ghordius
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I just happen to be a Roman Catholic that has visited several Muslim countries. Unbelievably ignorant about Christianity? My Jesuit teachers would disagree. What are your qualifications? I could throw a couple of Catholic ones in the hat, but I can't prove them, here. Did you ever visit a Muslim country?

saying that Islam is not a religion is a tad too rich, for me. please define "religion". secular dogmatic teaching like Marxism or Fascism are often descripted as "like religions" minus the belief in a deity. Are you trying to claim that Muslims don't believe?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:16 | 5175866 Bay of Pigs
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Buckaroo is a retard when it comes to religion. Probably a John Hagee fan who thinks its a good idea to nuke Arab countries (in the name of God of course).

As a Christian who is friends with Muslims and Jews alike, I can tell you he is completely full of shit.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 15:04 | 5176717 Buckaroo Banzai
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You've visited a few Muslim countries? So what? I'm sure you can find plenty of Muslims who are decent people-- that just means they are bad Muslims.

If you were taught by the Jesuits, then you most likely aren't much of a Catholic. The Jesuits represent pretty much everything that is wrong with the Catholic church.

As far as the word "religion" is concerned, you are correct that I misspoke. Let me restate: Islam isn't just a political system, it is a political system MASQUERADING as a religion.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:10 | 5175546 tony wilson
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bucky on fire today.

what happened schlomo could you not find a child to kidnap and rape today?

you is bat shit crazy dude : )

 

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Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:57 | 5176067 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ghordius said:

you seriously need to make a difference between Christians, Jews, Muslims and others and their fundamentalist and extremists versions

But that would go against his orthodoxy.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:48 | 5175464 rum_runner
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eh.. Muhammed granted full rights to Jews on more than one occasion.  

You goofballs fail to grasp that this is just human nature playing out under one fairy tale book or another.  Most all religions (less so Buddhism) have had their eras of warring and "terrorism."

I watch these vidoes of ISIS and I see a bunch of self-delusional boys all excited about their big project.  They're having fun as anyone would thinking they're starting a new empire.  All smiles and enthusiasm.  Chest-thumping, trying to outdo one another with their laughable proclamations.  It's no surprise that aimless youth around the world get excited at the idea of waving the same banner.

The ME will stay a conflagaration for a long time but ISIS has seen its heyday.  

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:59 | 5175502 Bananamerican
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"I see a bunch of self-delusional boys all excited about their big project. They're having fun as anyone would thinking they're starting a new empire. All smiles and enthusiasm."

This.
Man NEEDS something for his WILL to feed on.
A great endeavor, a great Faith, a grand project, etc
What do we have in the declining empires of the cynical west?
A great desire to pull off yet another $cam by the few? A great Fear for the rest...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:31 | 5175648 oudinot
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"until we put them back in thier hole at the Gates of Vienna"

Wrongo.

It was  the naval battle of Lepanto in 1571 that stopped the Muslim expansion.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:41 | 5175181 fredquimby
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Have they threatened Israel yet? Seems odd not too.

They would attack Israel via the Golan Heights, I would imagine. Since this borders onto Syria, it would indeed be odd for them not to. There were a bunch of Fijian (wtf) blue hats kidnapped up there a few days ago, so maybe things are indeed about to warm up for Israel via the Golan.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:49 | 5175245 Moe Howard
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The IDF in the Golan shelled Assad's troops in support of these fuckers. So your "theories" are wrong.

 

I see Israel grabbing some more Syrian farmland beyond the Golan before this is all over.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:25 | 5175372 moonshadow
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yeah and obama wanted to do the same thing rmmbr? but we the people objected so strongly that he backed down. plus putin's stance helped him back down. NOW we see that the people of syria themselves are turning against their 'freedom fighters' and assads regime doesnt look so bad. especially when these IS guys are threatening entry. turns out that these syrian rebels may have been the ones who gassed their own people as a false flag-who knows? we dont- the media is too biased and or obfuscated to get the facts. turns out that the original leader of those syrian rebels who wanted democracy, got kicked outa the group by al-qaeda, who have pretty much taken over the 'rebels'.  so all that being taken into consideration, idk if any theories are correct. IS just killed the Israeli journalist. do you really think they didnt know he was Israeli as well as American? i think the best theory at this point is that they Fear Israeli intelligence and dont wana piss em off. they prob fear putin also but oops somebody went and put that video threatening him into cyberspace. oops

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:23 | 5175903 Kirk2NCC1701
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And Syrian WATER.  Even more important than oil to Israeli Settlers (Zio-zealots) and its growing population.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:34 | 5175946 Herd Redirectio...
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Which is why the conquered the Golan Heights to begin with.

I remember talking with a girl who lived in Israel about that.  She had not a clue.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:22 | 5175496 toady
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Indeed, it seems odd that they wouldn't attack Isreal, being Muslim and all. Even they must know the Zionists, US, NATO, banksters, etc. would go all ape-shit.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 13:56 | 5176403 Thom_333
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No - for some reason they do not threaten or shoot at...Israel,Saudi,Turkey...Strange isn´t it...?

Of lately they have made some lame threats lately against the U.S. using the ordinary NWO outlets Twitter,Instagram,Facebook and Youtube and beheaded the random stray American but somehow it just doesn´t seem that serious.

Interesting...isn´t it?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:59 | 5175495 Joenobody12
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Israel is pissed that PUTIN stands in the way of the destruction of Syria. Israel orders ISIS, through the Jewish ISIS leader in Islam skin to make the threat.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:58 | 5175777 dontgoforit
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There sure are a lot of interesting points of view on this.  How about if all of this really does break out into a world-wide conflict it will begin the armeggedon siege that will signal the end?  Too brash?  These boys are worse than drunks with guns and me thinks we will see a lot of blood shed - mosly theirs.  If they were to engage Israel they would be finished in another six-day war.  Same thing with Putin - Russia would destroy these guys with no mercy.  So, you have all this going on in the prophetic land that tells of the final battle, to be raged on by nearly all countries (UN, NATO - take your pick) and then, Jesus will come back and the sorting will not be good for non-believers.  The world has had 2000 years to make a choice.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 18:52 | 5177603 hot sauce technician
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Next you're going to tell me that Israel commands the Iz-Addin-Al-Qassam brigades, yes? You're completely delusional.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:26 | 5175913 cocoablini
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Odd-of course it not. Why do they need to threaten Israel? ISIS is a fabrication of the Saudis, CIA to control the region where the Qatar gas line comes in. Israel doesn't give a rats ass since they are targeting the enemies of Israeli business, the gas deal. Putin is a target because he owns 33% of the natural gas going to Europe which is what Qatar and Hunter Biden's Ukraine Gas company want. THIS IS ALL ABOUT NAT GAS FOLKS. The coincidence that ISIS is overrunning the route is a little too farfetched to me. Plus, that plane is a museum piece. ISIS would be toast if we actually tried to implement a strategy against them but in the end ISIS is a threat to Al Quaida, the Shiites and Iran more than the US. We and Israel are just sitting back and watching the show. Killing some US journalists keeps prying eyes out of the region. Qatar>through Iraq,Syrian border>Kurdistan>Turkey is the pipeline and thats where ISIS is.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:27 | 5175914 cocoablini
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Odd-of course it not. Why do they need to threaten Israel? ISIS is a fabrication of the Saudis, CIA to control the region where the Qatar gas line comes in. Israel doesn't give a rats ass since they are targeting the enemies of Israeli business, the gas deal. Putin is a target because he owns 33% of the natural gas going to Europe which is what Qatar and Hunter Biden's Ukraine Gas company want. THIS IS ALL ABOUT NAT GAS FOLKS. The coincidence that ISIS is overrunning the route is a little too farfetched to me. Plus, that plane is a museum piece. ISIS would be toast if we actually tried to implement a strategy against them but in the end ISIS is a threat to Al Quaida, the Shiites and Iran more than the US. We and Israel are just sitting back and watching the show. Killing some US journalists keeps prying eyes out of the region. Qatar>through Iraq,Syrian border>Kurdistan>Turkey is the pipeline and thats where ISIS is.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:14 | 5175036 McCormick No. 9
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ISIS... the only other national entity loathed by the rest of the world beides Israel. Coincidence or....?

Oh yeah. And the guy, after he starts his car and makes all his threats (Allah willing), STARTS HIS CAR AGAIN, while it is already running!

And somehow, Idiots like this actually win military victories. Something's not right here.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:17 | 5175056 SMG
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Try Satanic Oligarch controlled US.

Remember these are the guys we sent money and weapons to to fight Assad.

You know if the pitchforks and torches ever come out, real important they get pointed in the right direction.  So maybe do more research.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:31 | 5175148 Puncher75
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Do you dopes really belive the crap you write?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:56 | 5174958 Headbanger
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That old MIG 21 looks like it's about to fall apart just sitting there.

Yeah, that's a real danger to everybody.  Won't see it coming at em.. Not at all..

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:59 | 5174970 Dead Man Walking
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I wont see it coming because it's not coming.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:36 | 5175166 intric8
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Nows Putin's chance to show the west how its done and wipe ISIS out.

Only problem is he'd be doing the west and the tribe too much of a favor, and get no credit for the favor.

So, no. Business as usual. Put ISIS on ignore.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:50 | 5175472 CCanuck
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Well he could wipe them out of Syria, and get credit and results that would raise his stature, protect Russian intrests.

Leave the ISIS in Iraq alone to "Behead..lol" American and British presstitues. Making the US&UK look even more ineffective.

This seems to be a move that could benefit him greatly.

But what do I know...I'm just a Ccanuck!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:39 | 5175193 Mitzibitzi
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Yeah, but they're the AK47 of fighter planes. Probably still works, mostly. I agree that it looks far more dangerous to anyone daft enough to strap it on, than to anyone they try to use it against, though.

I have a friend who did 13 years as a maintenance contractor with the Omani air Force. From what he says, most of the Middle Eastern militaries HAVE to employ foreign maintenence staff, or they'd have nothing left that worked inside a few years. Reckons he did meet a few pretty capable Arab techies, but only a few. Most of them were at about shade-tree car mechanic level, if that.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:51 | 5175251 Moe Howard
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This is why they favor Japanese cars and trucks. Little maintence needed.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:34 | 5175412 Citxmech
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I went to A&P school with a couple of guys on a visa from Saudi Arabia.  They were pretty nice as I remember - although they only showed-up maybe 4 days per semester.  The rest of the time they were partying and hanging out at titty bars.

Wouldn't trust them to work on anything I would fly in.  

The last MiG 21 rolled-off the line in 85?  So that thing is at least 30 years old? 

Yikes!

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:44 | 5175454 LFMayor
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Yeah this.  Not to mention the "maintenace plan" that it's been under.  Those muzzies could tear up an anvil with a sandpile.

This whole thing of poking the bear is gonna end up just like Timmy Treadwell.  Russia is going to shit these guys out after they are fucking Consumed.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:03 | 5175304 Agent P
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Were those keys hanging from the dashboard? 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:58 | 5174967 Bloppy
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Close golf courses to Obama?

http://tinyurl.com/mo9pybe


Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:02 | 5174989 Dead Man Walking
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Nah, lets not do that,  Obama does less damage to the USA when he golfs. Keep him on the course.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:02 | 5174994 SoilMyselfRotten
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It's all quiet on the war front(reference to PM's)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:12 | 5175024 tony wilson
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the bbc the cnn the fox nobody wants to talk logistics how can an army move sleep resupply conquer.

this is all psy warfare gas and oil pipeline wars rothschild in fighting dividing up the spoils.

i would suggest if all of isis was transfered from iraq and syria to chechnya they would last 5 days tops.

without the saudi,qatari funding the israeli logistics and repair and the cia special forces they would be done very quickly.

 

a very good listen

Patrick Henningsen - Hour 1 - ISIS Crisis & Israel’s Strategy

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/08/RIR-140829.php

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:28 | 5175393 Oldballplayer
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I guess ISIL has fulfilled their purpose. Time to get them off the stage.

I can just hear Dustin Hoffman saying, "This is nothing!" To Robert DiNiro.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:39 | 5175687 Canadian Dirtlump
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Kadyrov and Putin make Chuck Norris look like a drag queen. Only the biggest idiots would fall for an ISIS threat from a moroccan carpet cleaner on a non operational mig 21...

 

Either way these guys are like kids who are being allowed to misbehave and any retard who gets spooked by it is just that. They are a golum created by the west and the gulf state monarchies.

 

p.s. interesting picture of this sotloff journalist having fun with islamists in their war truck. Makes one think.

http://friendsofsyria.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/10672238_7715481928915...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:50 | 5174929 SafelyGraze
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UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat pigs.
Stepping on the pigs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare 
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the 
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

-Barack Obama, 1981

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:53 | 5174951 knukles
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Fuck me!  I feel better already.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:18 | 5174985 GetZeeGold
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So we're really finally gonna vet this guy?

 

Better late than never I suppose......could save us 2 years of more pain.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:20 | 5175073 knukles
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What is it?  He has 7 Sets of Records Under Seal?
This could be Biblical!

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 03:57 | 5178796 Thom_333
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"So we're really finally gonna vet this guy?" - Ha ha. First you vote for a man previously known under three names and with sealed records and otherwise very unclear affiliations. You vote for him twice as your president and then you start wondering who he really is and if voting for him was such a good idea...

This has to be the whopper of stupidity. Not that anyone will ever admit to it.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:54 | 5175478 SAT 800
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Obam-bam anounced publicly, for publication, that he wanted to make ISIS "controllable"; The Russians want to wring their necks and leave the corpses to rot in the sun; somehow I'm glad we have Putin to look out for us.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:08 | 5175013 Buckaroo Banzai
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What. The. Fuck.

That "poetry" is some seriously fucked up shit. Like, murderous psychopath fucked up.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:13 | 5175038 knukles
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"Musty, wet pelts"
So he'd met Mike already, huh?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:56 | 5175274 effendi
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Perhaps musty wet pelts is a reference to the wookie after her monthly shower?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 13:14 | 5176170 Kirk2NCC1701
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Mike's musty muffin?  WHAT!?

Say "What" again, muthafucka!  I dare you!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:40 | 5175200 StandardDeviant
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Damn, that's the funniest thing I've seen all day!

Let this be a lesson to college students: Do not try to write poetry.  If you must, then FFS do not leave it out where others might see -- especially now that it will live forever on the Internet.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:23 | 5175369 Chupacabra-322
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@ SafelyGraze,

Shit, I thought he was describeing some Reggie Love Lucerferian BSM (Bondage, Slave, Master) scene. My bad.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:34 | 5175415 moonshadow
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read the other poem in the link that 'safely'  included. especially the last line. makes me feel a little bad for him. a messed up guy like that in control of that much power...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:38 | 5175431 JRobby
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Wow, it is all becoming clearer now.

Really, really terrible shit.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:50 | 5174935 y3maxx
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...Send the ISIS Leader to meet Obama on the Golf Course.
Having never played, He will prolly beat Obama too.

Obama is batting 0% at Golf, Chess, Checkers and World Geo Politics.

I wouldn't want to f8ck with Putin though.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:21 | 5175325 Dr Strangemember
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So are we going to war against Russia in Ukraine, AND going to war with Russia agains ISIS at the same time???  Yeah, that sounds about right.  I need some ax-prin fo mi hed!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:48 | 5174933 RattNRoll
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He will wait, Isis is an american creation and he knows it.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:53 | 5174955 Winston Churchill
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What better way to kill three birds with one stone.

That ISIS threat is as real as the beheading videos.

Two can play the Great Game,as easily as one.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:02 | 5174990 knukles
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But Putin is inconsequential in ISIS related matters, for Obie said just today that "we won't be intimidated and ISIS is manageable if the international community comes to together to organize the Arab world."
Case closed.
Go home, Vlad.  We got this covered.

(do I really need the sarc/ tag?  Prolly', some folks just don't get it...)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:12 | 5175031 Winston Churchill
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Lets see what Obozo has to say when Russian boots are on the ground in Syria.

We won't hear about it until its de facto.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:17 | 5175061 knukles
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thought balloon:

"Oh yeah.... "Syria" that's the name of the second heavily bunkered par 3 at Augusta.  I didn't know the Russians played golf.  How many strokes will they give me?"

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:39 | 5175196 Flagit
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With all these "boots on the ground", President Shine-Box could really clean up.

Probably make like, a million shekels.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:39 | 5175970 Kirk2NCC1701
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In which case... Why not have them and Iranians sponsor their own version that emanates out from Shiia Iraq, but which seeks to disrupt the "flow of Saudi spice"?  ;-)

The idea being... max out the Bandwidth and Resources of the Saudis.  Entropy is such a Bitch!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:00 | 5174980 BorisTheBlade
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He must be scared, one MIG 21 sent long before Soviet Union collapsed and couple of bearded Chechens who survived 2nd Chechen campaign threatened him. Oooo, back in the days they only could properly fight children in schools and pregnant women in hospitals.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:25 | 5175102 Buckaroo Banzai
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Isis isn't an American creation, as Muslims have been behaving this way for roughly 1300 years. It's extensively and tediously documented, if one bothers to look.

However, I am willing to allow for the idea that we may be sponsoring them, under the rather misguided philosophy that since Muslims are in general bloodthirsty lunatics who spend almost as much time fighting each other as they fighting non-Muslims, one must pick a faction to support.

But the problem I have with that idea is, what about Al Qaeda? Why go to the trouble of sponsoring ISIS when we were supposedly also sponsoring Al Qaeda?

This, ultimately is why (a) Muslims should not be allowed in western countries, and (b) we should avoid Muslims at all costs.

I blame Jimmy Carter. If it wasn't for the Carter doctrine, we wouldn't have begun messing around with the ragheads in the first place. Funny how everybody forgets about the Carter doctrine.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:48 | 5175237 tony wilson
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buckies back

back from the synagogue of satan

back from the steam room

how many kids your raped today bucky baby?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:54 | 5175262 samsara
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"I blame Jimmy Carter. If it wasn't for the Carter doctrine..."

Blame our need for Oil.   The Carter Doctrine was inevitable by a power that is 75% dependant on imported oil. 

It would have been formulated by whatever president(except Ron)  who sat in the seat.

Want to stop it?  stop using ALL petroleum products. 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:56 | 5175484 bag holder
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Things must have been different in the 70s, but today, commuting to white-collar jobs is the elephant in the room. When office workers aren't gossiping with their co-workers, they're using a computer or phone, which they also have in their own houses.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 15:08 | 5176736 Buckaroo Banzai
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My problem with Carter is not the way he responded in that moment in time, it is the fact that he made it a cornerstone of future US policy.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:55 | 5175269 Pesky Labrador
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Al Qaeda is ISIS, everyone was(is) waking up to the fact that Al Qaeda was originally a database name the CIA. It was created to keep those nations in constant termoil while stealing their oil. Or to keep them so busy with each other they never look at Israel. Or we need a boogie man in order to keep our citizen's in a constant state of fear, allowing liberties to be taken away in exchange for safety.

How can we support the moderate Al Qaeda member's fighting in Syria (rebels) with weapons only a decade after they supposedly knocked our twin towers down? The main stream media is begining to fail in their lies. The problem with lieing is having to lie again to cover it up until eventually you can no longer support your lies. The second journalist was captured in Syria, that is were Al Qaeda aka Syrian rebels were fighting Assad. Now he shows up in the ISIS terriost youtube? You've got to be asleep not to connect those dots.

There was no divorce, it is the same people, the same supported network. Have you ever heard of Al Qaeda attacking Israel? No, I don't think you have nor has anyone for that matter. I think Hamas is smarter than your average muslim IMHO. You don't hear about Al Qaeda or ISIS messing with HAMAS do you?

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:55 | 5175480 samsara
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Thu, 08/14/2014 - 20:56 | 5095174 samsara

 

A year or so ago, deep in a think tank somewhere a hypothetical conversation may have taken place.

 

Guy 1 talking: The terrorist threat of alCIAda is getting long in the tooth. We've done the domestic terrorist thing and that had unintended consequences of just making more mad and buying more guns and growing in numbers.

We need something new. Foriegn, bigger, badder, crazier, scaryer. What do we have to work with?

Guy 2: We, Me and charley were thinking of banding together all the bad asses we accumulated from Afgan. Iraq, Libya, Egypt, and so on, and having them run crazy over there.

Guy 3: Have them do that Syrian 'cut out their heart and eat it thing' or beheadings. Give the Kurds the control of the northern oil,

Guy 2: Hell, we don't even have to fund it or arm it. Listen to this, We let them capture a Bank with a lot of actual currency, and have them take over armories, and bases. We get to buy them again...

Guy 1: Well that sounds pretty good. We could then get one of our drugged 'acquaintances' to do a selfie from Penn Ave. or something...

That and a pandamic scare, we could go martial law if we wanted to... Well draw up some ideas and put it together....

Oh, and give it an Egyptian name, as a tip of the hat..

 

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:53 | 5176043 Herd Redirectio...
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Guy 1= CIA

Guy 2= Mossad

Guy 3= MI6

And best of all, it never gets traced further back than say... Qatar.  At least thats what they hoped!

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:44 | 5175451 oudinot
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So American military, which now only bombs aren't,"bloodthirsty lunatics"?

You are a troll.  Your name is probably, "Abraham."

Fuck off.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 10:47 | 5175461 suteibu
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ISIS is new and improved.  It had to be because Obama said her personally destroyed Al Qaeda.  We can't resurrect that dead body again.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:10 | 5175540 Anarchy 99
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give it up Banzai, you're hatred for humans "different" then you is like a stink cloud.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 08:55 | 5174947 knukles
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Will Putin issue an Obie-apology or Declare Sanctions such as revoking their citizenship*?

 

* At a dinner last night a chap from Scandinavia said that Norway was thinking of revoking the citizenship of any of their people fighting for ISIS... and that sure would negatively impact them, sending a strong message excluding them from the Western community.  I told him that I though his position (He was serious, BTW) was inane, immature, detached from reality and sounded like another stalwart EU bit of statesmanship.  The rest of the dinner guests were not only surprised at my directness (Some thought crude, but social graces oft deteriorate into deceit and lies) and in fact agreed with him.  I left as soon as I could so as not to be infected by the Ignorabola bug

Note to self:  Don't fuck with Vlad the Bad as You'll Prolly' Get Sad.  (Altho they too got shafted in Afghanistan)

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:11 | 5175011 Ghordius
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knukles, it's serious. the guy you were talking with is not alone in his demand, and I suspect the Scandinavians and the Brits will be the first to implement such measures

I've often said here on ZH that US narratives about Europe often misunderstand or neglect to report on our conservatives

there are precedents for that, and one future direction could be that no european national can join foreign armies without committing a crime by that. Urban Redneck has probably something to note about the Congress of Vienna and the existing Swiss law on that as precedents

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:19 | 5175065 Winston Churchill
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It is already the law in most countries.You are supposed to get prior permission.

Thats for formal armies of course,where you swear an oath.

Selective enforcement again.

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 09:28 | 5175132 knukles
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Guys, guys, guys...
I know it's serious and the Law of Most Countries!
My point is that the dude really thought that it was going to stick it to ISIS and show them a lesson or two.  My point is that the dude really thought that by doing so, they were really having an impact upon ISIS.

I don't think that anybody fighting for ISIS gives a rats ass about having their citizenship revoked by some Western heretics against whom they've already sworn Jihad, to destroy said countries even if it costs him his life.... and in fact is the "right" thing to do, go to heaven, etc.

Methinks a way lot of folks are yet not only subject to the mind control, but also pitifully immature and anally retentive.

 

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 12:57 | 5176069 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, at the very least, when they try to bring their brand of terror 'home' they should be stopped at the door, and put in a cell.

That goes for all of them, regular ISIS, special advisors, financiers of ISIS...

Wed, 09/03/2014 - 11:13 | 5175506 Uncle Remus
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.

(Altho they too got shafted in Afghanistan)

 

Well, at least they had the comfort of knowing they joined a long list of historical and illustrious would-be conquerors in that regard. 

 

Clearly, Mash'Allah.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 06:11 | 5178867 Thom_333
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Of course he was serious. More countries are mulling over the option of revoking the citizenship of anyone who joins up with ISIS. Actually it will most likely also include anyone who travels to that part of the world to join in fighting. Why should we want to have them as citizens in our countries? It´s not like they were born here. It´s amazing to see how many of these flee from Syria and other countries proclaiming themselves as refugees and in need of protection and then turn around and go back on jihadi-vacation the minute they are awarded citizenship.

If you like them so much you can take them - all of them.

Actually I think measures like stripping them of citizenship and jailing them when caught is the only way of stopping us from going old-style European and throwing them in camps from which there is no return.

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