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US Equity Futures Soar To Fresh All-Time Highs On New Ukraine "Ceasefire" Which Is Promptly Refuted By All Sides
Update: SEIBERT SAYS HAS NO CONFIRMATION OF RUSSIA-UKRAINE CEASEFIRE... and drumroll:
- REUTERS WITNESS HEARS LOUD ARTILLERY EXPLOSIONS ON NORTHERN OUTSKIRTS OF EASTERN UKRAINIAN CITY OF DONETSK
So, time to buy more stawks.
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The comedic value of developments out of Ukraine, especially when it comes to "de-escalation", truly has no equal. Case in point, events from the past three hours. The fun started just after 4 am eastern, when the first of many headlines hit as follows:
- POROSHENKO AGREES TO PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE IN UKRAINE WITH PUTIN
- POROSHENKO REACHED UNDERSTANDING ON STEPS FOR PEACE W/PUTIN
Bloomberg clarified by saying that Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko comments were sourced on his website after phone call with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin over unrest in nation’s east. To be sure, risk loved this "news", which the algos decided this time would be different from all the other ceasefires. The reaction was swift:
- USD REVERSES LOSSES VS JPY AFTER UKRAINE CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT
- EUR RISES VS USD TO SESSION HIGH ON UKRAINE CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT
- BUND FUTURE DROPS TO DAY LOW AS UKRAINE CEASE-FIRE ANNOUNCED
- FORINT GAINS 0.4%/EUR ON UKRAINE CEASE-FIRE
- RUBLE RALLIES 1.43% VS USD, MOST SINCE JUNE 24 ON CEASEFIRE
- U.K. 10-YEAR GILTS EXTEND DROP; YIELD RISES 6 BPS TO 2.50%
- UKRAINE 2017 USD BOND YIELD FALLS 76BPS ON TRUCE
Further news and headlines seemed just as promising, although suddenly the word "conditions" emerged, signally not all may be well:
- DONETSK REBELS READY FOR POLITICAL SETTLEMENT WITH KIEV: IFX
- REBELS SAY SETTLEMENT CONDITIONAL ON UKRAINE HALTING FIRE: IFX
The WSJ triumphantly blasted:
Russia, Ukraine Agree to Cease-Fire
The presidents of Russia and Ukraine agreed on a permanent cease-fire in eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian president's office said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko also reached an understanding on steps to promote peace, the presidency said.
The Kremlin said the presidents exchanged opinions on what should be done to end the bloodshed as soon as possible.
And then things suddenly started to go sour, because this time again wasn't different after all:
- PUTIN DIDN'T AGREE ON CEASE-FIRE, RUSSIA NOT PARTY TO CONFLICT
- PUTIN, POROSHENKO DISCUSSED STEPS TO CEASE-FIRE: PESKOV
Instead, PUTIN BACKS IDEA OF IMMEDIATE CEASE-FIRE IN UKRAINE: PESKOV, something the Kremlin has been pushing all along.
Wait, so... no ceasefire? But, the algos... Oh crap, U-turn, U-turn now!
- EUROPEAN STOCKS, U.S. FUTURES PARE GAINS
- GERMAN 10-YEAR BUNDS PARE DROP ON RUSSIAN CEASE-FIRE COMMENTS
- JPY GAINS AS PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA NO PARTY TO CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT
Then, just as it was unclear if there is a deal or not, the president of Estonia decided now is the time to make some more demands on Russia:
- ILVES: RUSSIA MUST ADMIT THAT IT'S PARTY TO CONFLICT IN UKRAINE
- ILVES: RUSSIA MUST `TAKE GENUINE STEPS' TO EASE UKRAINE CRISIS
- ILVES SAYS EU, U.S. `READY TO TAKE MORE RESTRICTIVE MEASURES'
At this moment none other than Obama, fresh from his vacation and currently touring Europe, also chimed in:
- OBAMA SEES `CHANGED LANDSCAPE' IN NATO-RUSSIA RELATIONS
- OBAMA: NO UKRAINE SETTLEMENT POSSIBLE IF RUSSIA BACKING REBELS
- OBAMA: NATO SUMMIT TO PROJECT UNITY ACROSS ALLIANCE ON UKRAINE
- OBAMA SAYS `WHAT'S HAPPENED IN UKRAINE IS TRAGIC'
- OBAMA SAYS NATO `POISED' TO DO MORE TO AID UKRAINE
- OBAMA: ESTONIA `MODEL ALLY,' HELPS NATO AGAINST CYBER THREATS
- OBAMA SAYS `ESTONIA WILL NEVER STAND ALONE'
- OBAMA: ESTONIAN AIR BASE `IDEAL' TO HOST AIRCRAFT, PERSONNEL
Obama's punchline - order more US defense stuff:
- OBAMA URGES NATO MEMBERS TO REVIEW, UPDATE DEFENSE CAPABILITIES
But then things got really wierd, when the usual Poroshenko website revisionism hit in earnest:
- POROSHENKO CHANGES WEBSITE STATEMENT ON CEASE-FIRE IN UKRAINE
- KIEV STATEMENT NOW REFERS TO `CEASE-FIRE REGIME IN THE DONBAS'
- POROSHENKO SAYS AGREEMENT REACHED ON `CEASE-FIRE REGIME'
Said presidential website can be found here. WSJ once again promptly chimed in to "explain" the muddied situation:
Kremlin Takes Issue With Term 'Cease-Fire' in Ukraine
The Ukrainian president's office said Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to a cease-fire regime in eastern Ukraine. The Kremlin took issue with that wording, saying the two leaders only discussed steps toward peace.
It wasn't immediately clear whether the differences reflected diplomatic semantics--admitting that Mr. Putin had agreed to such a deal would contradict months of Kremlin assertions that they don't control the separatists in Ukraine--or a more fundamental disagreement. Neither side provided details of what was agreed to.
Ah yes, semantics. And then, to confirm that once again Ukraine did not even follow the CIA playbook, the counterparty to the "ceasefire" negotiations, apparently was never consulted to begin with!
- REBELS SAY POROSHENKO DIDN'T AGREE CEASE-FIRE WITH THEM: RIA
Finally, to celebrate the de-escalations:
- UKRAINE KILLED 100 REBELS NEAR SNIZHNE, LYSENKO SAYS
- BORDER GUARDS SEE INCREASED RUSSIAN TROOP ACTIVITY: LYSENKO
- LYSENKO SAYS INSURGENTS ARE DAMAGING LOCAL GAS PIPELINES
And just to make sure Putin is really pissed off:
- UKRAINE SEEKS STATUS OF SPECIAL U.S. ALLY: YATSENYUK
- YATSENYUK URGES PARLIAMENT TO ADOPT BILL ON UKRAINE'S NATO BID
- YATSENYUK: NEW DEFENSE DOCTRINE MUST DEFINE RUSSIA AS AGGRESSOR
- YATSENYUK SAYS WAR IN EAST ISN'T INTERNAL UKRAINIAN CONFLICT
- YATSENYUK SAYS RUSSIA INSTIGATED, CONTINUES CONFLICT IN UKRAINE
- YATSENYUK SAYS ENTIRE UKRAINIAN ECONOMY IS ON WAR FOOTING
- RUSSIA HAS DONE EVERYTHING TO DERAIL UKRAINE-EU DEAL: PREMIER
To summarize: despite pent up hopes for pent up "de-escalation" everything is again back on square one with the civil war raging as usual, but there were some more confused headlines, coupled with promises of a ceasefire that apparently does not exist. End result - the algos are happy because US equity futures just pushed to fresh all time highs. As for the people of Ukraine, oh well: who cares about them.
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LOL. You can't cease fire when no one is officially firing in the first place.
It's obvious that insiders on all sides are planting news stories to front run the sheeple and fleece them for more money. It could be, on the advice of the american banksters who also made a financial killing off 9/11,this is how Kiev is financing their wars against Donbass and Russia.
Estonias president Toomas Hendrik Ilves is more an US American than Estonian and worked as a US propaganda agent in Europe for more than 10 years before the fall of the Berlin wall. Seems pretty clear he´s still on the payroll of some US entity. Once a CIA agent, allways a CIA agent.
Futures Soar To Fresh All-Time Highs
We've got it dialed in.....don't touch a damn thing.
The air is especially clear....I can see Russia from Flyover Country.
Trying to rush a war is like trying to rush a fart - may not come out the way you had hoped.
Wow the algos are not only selectively reading headlines, they are now the ones spawning all of these false headlines!
now the ones spawning all of these false headlines!
That and the fat guys sitting around at the Fusion centers eating donuts.....who are now looking around....and are realizing we're talking about them.
The only way this situation could be more confusing is if John Kerry was involved. Or in the vicinity of it. Or said anything about it.
Vlad Putin, a horse, and the Pope walk into a bar...btfd
a horse
The horse moonlights as our Secretary of State.
Let's hope he stays out before he says something else totally retarded. I'm still thinking Kerry may not make it through the rest of this administration. I think Obama will throw him under the bus to save his sinking presidency and legacy.
That said, the West *has* to lose in the Ukraine otherwise, the powers that be, will take even a partial victory from a partitioned and soon-to-be latest member of the Ukraine only to to repeat it all over again in another country they covet. Belarus or Georgia (again). Seems to me nothing is going to stop Washington's lust for American (under the guise of NATO) bases everywhere on the face of the planet.
The biggest problem in the world is that a class of elite people are never held accountable for their actions and so there is no downside risk for them.
I'm thinkin this administration won't make it through this administration.
Think the GOP will impeach Obama over such issues? The GOP are in lock-step. That's why the GOP never asked the important questions when it came to Benghazi.
But the futures stay UP...#CNBC said no one cares about the #UKraine Ha ha ha
US equity futures have been soaring for years for no apparent reason. No reason to stop this manna from the Fed now.
For comedic relief, turn on CNBC for five minutes if you can stand it. They are still reporting a full blown invasion by Russian troops.
Blahahahahahhaha
They'll have to justify NATO's coming incursion. Ukie army is disintegrating.
Method to their madness. Of course the Ukie army is falling apart. Who wouldn't under "Russian attack?"
Easily hides the fact that the dimwits in Kiev are blundering idiots who marched off a conscript army to a war no one but the oligarchs and neo-Nazis want. Thought that they could bomb their own population into submission so they can preserve their own powerbase in Kiev? Frankly, I'm surprised it took the Ukrainian population this long to figure it out.
People forget way too quick...when the ruskies paid Sakashvili a visit in '08 it looked a lot different than Ukraine right now.
At this point Putin holds all the cards, this will become more obvious as winter nears and events unfold. It seems both Russia and many of the separatist in Eastern Ukraine would support federalization. Surely, no reason exist for Kiev to be opposed other than a loss of power. A more federalized government is also the most plausible way of keeping Ukraine intact.
Support for sanctions is mixed in Europe as some countries fear Russia and have an ax to grind with Putin while others wish to move forward. Saber rattling has only lead to death and destruction. As I see it little good will come from further bloodshed and it is time for the West to stop sending money to Kiev so they can ramp up the violence and continue the civil war. More on the progress being made in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/eu-moving-towards-deal-on-ukraine...
More threats against Russia - this time by still-occupied Germany:
German President Gauck threatens Russia with war
By Peter Schwarz3 September 2014
On September 1, German President Joachim Gauck used a meeting commemorating the outbreak of the Second World War to launch a direct attack on Russia. At the Westerplatte near Gdansk in Poland, he accused the Russian government of conducting an “offensive struggle for new borders and a new order” based on the “law of the jungle,” and of having declared Russia’s partnership with the European Union, NATO and the large industrial nations “de facto null and void.”
We “resist those who breach international law, annex foreign territory, and militarily support divisions in foreign lands,” Gauck proclaimed. “We will adapt our politics, economics and readiness for defense to the new circumstances,” he added.
This can be understood only as an open threat of war against Russia. On the same day, Valeriy Heletey, defence minister of Germany’s ally Ukraine, announced on his Facebook page: “A great war has arrived at our doorstep—the likes of which Europe has not seen since World War Two.” He predicted losses that “will be measured not in the hundreds, but thousands and tens of thousands.”
Gauck could not have chosen a more symbolic location to utter his war threats. The Second World War began on September 1, 1939 with the shelling of Westerplatte by the German battleship Schleswig Holstein. The subsequent conquest and subjugation of Poland, which claimed the lives of a fifth of the Polish population, including almost all of Poland’s Jews, was the prelude to the war of extermination against the Soviet Union, which claimed a further 27 million victims.
Ultimately, it was the selfless struggle of the Soviet Red Army that forced Hitler’s Wehrmacht to retreat and liberated Poland and eastern Germany from the murderous terror of the Nazis.
In his speech, Gauck ignored this historical context and engaged in a degree of historical falsification that is normally encountered only in far-right publications. Five years ago, then-Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was invited to the commemorative event at the Westerplatte, together with 19 other European government heads. This time, Gauck did not utter a word about the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union and the role of the Red Army. Instead, he characterised the liberation from the Nazis as the replacement of one dictatorship by another. “With Soviet rule, one dictatorship followed the preceding one,” he declared.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/09/03/gauc-s03.html
"We “resist those who breach international law, annex foreign territory, and militarily support divisions in foreign lands,” Gauck proclaimed. "
So laughable! How it comes they never resisted all the US coup?
We “resist those who breach international law, annex foreign territory, and militarily support divisions in foreign lands,” Gauck squawked, "except, of course, Vichy DC, whose occupation and rulership of Deutschland we have cherished for neun und sechzig Jahre. We know no other way."
note though that the German political establishment whistled Gauck back, in a very public manner. a very interesting signal
as interesting as how harsh the new Foreign Affairs EU Commissioner sounded, the very same one that the Balts and Poland found inadequate because "too Russia-friendly"
What's this have to do with celebrity boobs on the internet?
Well Dr. If one side rubs the other too aggressively then theres bound to be some friction!
Thank you thank you, be here all week
What's this have to do with celebrity boobs on the internet?
Buncha heavily censored crap...so I went to my main NSA man for the real stuff.
So I'm like....is that it? He's like.....yeah....that's all we've got so far.
It is getting to the point where I wish Russia and Ukraine would just fuck or fight already. This back and forth BS reminds me of high school shit.
Your confusion is understandable since the West is playing the usual psyops games when the side they are sponsoring is losing. The Ukies are getting their asses kicked in Donbass and the USSA does not know what to do, so they instruct the media to issue conflicting stories while they figure out what to do.
though this still leaves the question unanswered of how "they are getting their asses kicked"... a few weeks ago they were on the ropes, and now the rebel's leadership talks openly about a drive to the sea / to Mariupol
Seems like they are already past Mariupol:
http://slavyangrad.org/map-of-hostilities-01092014/
very interesting chart. very interesting narrative in the legend, including the naming conventions (of "conscripted combatants" and Novorossiya Armed Forces (NAF), for example)
note that according that chart Yalta is in the hands of the NAF, while the Ukrainian forces (in the legend "Ukies") that romped around are now "pocketed"
which even more begs for the question of how they were reduced to seven shrinking pockets
We can't figure out what to do because we have a queen in the white house. By the time '16 elections are over so will the 'adjustments' being made in eastern Ukraine. Won't surprise me if Estonia and possibly Latvia jump on board with Russia, too. Nothing succeeds like success.
Ghordius, the Ukies were lured into the equivalent of the Russian rope a dope, expending their best military resouces while the Novorossiyans took the blows. Once the Ukies exhausted themselves, and used up their supplies, the novorossyians counter attacked, blocking resupply, encircled and slaughtered their best troops. The Ukies lost because Porkyschenko wanted to declare victory by Ukie independence day August 24th so political considerations overrode sound military doctrine.
That's my impression of what took place, also. Though it's hard to pick through the 30+ separate narratives to sieve out what look like facts. Doesn't help that just the Ukie government seems to be telling about 5 entirely separate stories at any given moment, depending on who the spokesperson is and which media you're looking at. Almost like someone wants the thing to look confused as fuck!
Parallels to the storytelling of the Obama minions and Obama hisself.
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Simply another variation on a theme which has repeatedly played out over the centuries: the expedience of political goals took precedence over a sound strategy. The drive by Kiev to exterminate all resistance by the August 24 "independence" festivities resulted in Ukrainian forces being herded into and trapped in the kill zones known as cauldrons.
....tough call, with all the bullshit and lies - er I mean disinformation - floating around it really is hard to tell what is going on though the one constant that can always be found is the unabashed targetting of civilians by pro-western cabal operatives (including but not limited to Ukies,Mossad,Blackwater etc.) This pattern is repeated wherever Natzionist psychopaths are found. Notice the consistent patterns from Sri Lanka to Gaza - the willful targeting of civilians, first responders hospitals schools all actions defined as war crimes or crimes against humanity should any party other than the Zionist Cabal heading Israel, DC, and Nazo countries and since the hague appears to be the decider of such things .........yeah ......
The sock puppets in Kiev are doing nothing more than reading the script - though as some point out here it is a script that seems to favour the stock market algos........ too bad the bots/ukes/sheeple aren't smart enough to pick up on the patterns of bullshit.....
Yeah, and 9-11 was an inside job orchestrated by Booooosh!
Indeed, but what's your point exactly?
I believe you are gving too much credit to the Nuland-types inside the Beltway. Here's my take:
Seems to me, the pattern is simple. Nuland-types find pliant groups inside another nation that has resources and strategic positioning that American corporations covet. Nuland uses the government taxpayer and also finds pliant oligarch types in their own neck of the woods and move together to form "synergy". For example, in the Ukraine, the NED, USAID and Pierre Omidyar (founder of eBay) had been sponsoring anti-Yanukovitch elements for some time. Turns out Omidyar was also a huge backer of the BJP and Modi in India, but that's just something to keep in mind.
These groups inside the Ukraine do the dirty work but also funnel back intelligence back to Washington DC through the embassy. Since there are no real American operatives inside these groups, as they'd stand out, they're fed intelligence by the locals. Locals who know who butters their bread. So, they feed Uncle Sam what they think people like Nuland want to hear, even if it's totally false. There's no way Nuland can either dismiss or confirm. Worse is that they feed them bad information in the hopes of getting more money and aid (I think that's a major dynamic here in the Ukraine).
So, Kiev feeds Nuland what she wants to hear but when it can no longer be covered up, say when government forces are falling apart, the paid representatives of Washington come up with excuses. It is possible that these groups are taking cues from Nuland types who will tell them "don't worry, just say that Russia invades and the NYT will back you up with uncriticial reporting." That's possible too and we've all seen how time and time again the presstitute classes always tow the government line on issues of "national security." Even Greenwald (now owned by Pierre Omidyar, no less) capitulated to the demands of the NSA recently.
At the end of the day, though, Kiev is ultimately master of its own misfortune. They got in bed with Nuland and now seemingly want to go for broke.
I also think we see the limits on what one man can do. Sure, we can all go and blame Obama, but there really are only twenty-four hours a day, so it's clear any leader, elected or not, has to delegate to lower level people. What's frustrating is that we regularly see the same people failing over and over and over again yet Obama continues apace. People foolishly thought an man who never finished one of his elected terms was going to bring about change... lol One of the more troubling aspects of all this is how elected bodies of representatives are no longer doing their jobs and simply allowing the power of the executive (or PMO) to grow and grow which I think it fuelling our era of non-accountability.
Finally, I suppose I can add one great comment by a Yale professor who's name escapes me: "the telescopes of planet Washington do not reach planet Earth." Ukraine is illustrating that.
"Locals who know who butters their bread. So, they feed Uncle Sam what they think people like Nuland want to hear, even if it's totally false."
Seems there was/is certainly a large element of that going on. I think we're seeing some of the same thing with ISIS, too. You can sometimes tell by the tone of the statements that the US/UK/NATO talking heads put out about various events (in both conflicts) that some of them are prepared responses to semi-scripted actions and some are in response to shit that wasn't part of 'the plan'.
Indeed, I'm willing to bet a testicle that most of the "moderates" that the US, UK and Gulf States have been funding have pulled the wool over their eyes. Positioned themselves as "moderates" so they can fund their little Jihadi movement. All they had to do is tell a tale and dance a little dance and next thing you know they were getting heavy arms from Libya.
"Winter Is Coming" Putin 2014
This is where this gets fun.
Moscow has repeatedly pointed out that Russia is not a party to Ukraine’s internal conflict and they still make that clear, as everyone ignores the facts, as usual...
Hi ZH, first post here.
For me the main subject of this place is an absolutely unknown land as it is to most of the ordinary citizens where I live. But I have been following the topics and comments here for a while mainly on the political side concerning global events but politics are tightly connected to economic and vice versa.
As for Ukraine. I am also following Russian language discussions and today for the first time I saw there comments about the financial impact of regularly issued then denied claims by Poroshenko. Even claims that this way he is playing on financial markets for his own benefit.
Can it be true?
Apologies if this is a kind of dumb question.
Hi ZH, first post here.
Welcome to Fightclub. Guess who gets to fight today?
I can't answer about the financial news or the impact on daily markets, you'll hopefully find better answers from others
on a geopolitical side, this kind of psyops during a conflict not astonishing (for the involved parties doctrines)
the goal is to drag the other side to make a counterstatement that scores negative points
take the Russian official counterstatement in this case: nope, no deal (howls of rage) and no, we are not part of it (as a reason, which scores multiple minus points of different kinds)
from the Ukrainian side, the goal seems to be to narrow the Russian narrative (for example of how much they are doing for peace - european public-wise)
I can't answer about the financial news
10 bucks sez that's not going to stop you.....OK.....let me have it.
10 bucks? If I'd bet ten bucks it would be that you make another 5 posts in the thread which make scrolling even more a chore. i-pad hater, perhaps?
i-pad hater, perhaps?
I'm posting from an I-pad.....the Gordo I know would not have made such a mistake....what have you done with the real Gordo?
So do I get my 10 bucks or what?
lol, how am I supposed to know - or care - from what you are posting? I just know that you take lots of "space". and it's with an H. for "easiness of search". Ghordius. Do you know who Gordias (of Gordium) was? your 10 bucks? molon labe ;-)
Welcome Joe Plane! Welcome!
Welcome to the end of the world as you knew it!
You will leave here a changed man, cynical and pissed off at the unchangeable things in life that you will learn to be true.
We ask you this one question before you begin your long journey with us:
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To answer your question, though:
If it involves large amounts of money, anything is possible - especially when it involves power players, banksters, and governments.
It most certailnly does.
Example GAP (George Papandreou) of Greece played the CDS through his brother Andreas Papandreou and their pals in Washington (Soros and companies)
They profited out of the misery of the Greeks, by at least 2 Billion Euros.
Something is definitly going on here.
Poroshenko also appointed Olga Bogomolets to the post of Advisor to the President on Monday: http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/31143.html
Wasn't that the one who also had a suspicion concerning the Maidan sniper shootings? http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/
Disinformation war is waging... and I'm feeling really dizzy
Anybody who owns candy factories has NO business running a country....
Willy POROSHENKO and his chocolate factory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
The fun part is that Porky recently sold his chocolat factories to none other than the son of Yanukovich. Wasn't he supposed to be the enemy?
What about actors?
Do they have any business running a country?
...and father dreamin' community agitators. What of that ilk?
OOPS, wonder if the algos saw this
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/world/europe/ukraine-russia.html?actio...
Ukraine retracts...
"The neocons realize that Obama is not determined to follow their lunatic plans for Russia and since the IS problem tends to get completely out of control, they probably decided to give him some space and excuse to focus on the Middle East front and deal with the IS for good. Of course, the ruthless neocon hawks “are not to be trusted”. They probably hope that by the end of the Obama term the IS problem will be eliminated, while they prepare a more willing puppet for the US presidency to follow their plans (http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/06/hillary-for-president-in-midd...). Then, they will turn against Russia, China, Iran and anyone is considered an obstacle to their plans."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/08/temporary-turn-of-180-degrees...
They needed to test if a ceasefire would send gold reeling. We are at the endgame folks. Exit all float scams (anything with less than 3% cash flow yield) completely for 50% physical cash (FRN) and 50% gold to use their bubbles against them. If people do, the option driven infinite leverage enabled exploitation of asymmetric knowledge of positions will unwind and very hard.
In case you missed it, the Nazis have lost 43,000 troops.
43,000 dead Nazis.
Seig Smile!
...see what I did there?
the Nazis (short for national socialists) were a political party
in your context, it would be the Republican troops that invaded Iraq in 200X
today, it would be the Democratic troops that are back in Iraq dealing with ISIS
I think people just like to say nazi
NAT - ZEEEEEE!!!!!
So when do we get to round up people and kill them......or better put......when does the real fun start?
The Nazis sucked and were inefficient......I vote we invoke the Vendee protocols.
If true then Porky won't last more than a week or two. Returning army will take care of that. Kiev will go down in flames and separatists get the entire country. The west is desperate to save face. Put in wins without firing a Russian shot.
If true then Porky won't last more than a week or two. Returning army will take care of that. Kiev will go down in flames and separatists get the entire country. The west is desperate to save face. Put in wins without firing a Russian shot.
it wasn't actually a cease-fire. everybody took a couple of hours off to go buy stauks
There was no justification for maintaining NATO after 1989. Its continued existence - more than any other factor - has contributed to the instability in a region where stability could reign if the US and its obsolete cold war alliance would stop trying to "contain" Russia, as if this were even still a viable strategic goal anymore.
parkinson said something about that
No worries. In the event of nuclear warfare the core group of HFT's and their respective digital zeros are installed on a space vehicle and will be launched into space. The satellites will be linked to mobile trading platforms. In the event of sat-com destruction a special council will be formed to declare who owns what.
Funny how Russia is denying any deal has been made.
I think some funny business is going on with this, perhaps some administration officials made Poroshenko say it just to pump stocks and benefit a few insiders? Its possible.
the cease fire that ceased to exist
See you in two weeks....
I doubt that DNR fighters agree with ceasefire till large parts of its territory including Slavyansk and Mariupol are under control of Nazis.
Porky has ended up with his foot in his mouth while trying to catch Putin on the wrong foot
What a Sorosfull and dismal failure of the Wall Street Cartel! They can do zilch when they dont't own it or run it. Their writ is in the US and in those countries where their puppets operate
Soros!!! I freakin knew it!
Can we get someone on that guy?
and still we rally
So . . . every Ukraine-related dip is bought heavily, in most cases completely reversed intraday, evidence 'investors' see no lasting global impact, but then simply mention "permanent" cease-'fire' and we go up, erasing some hidden reverse war-premium, or worries about 'escalating' sanctions (no Fig Newtons for Vladdy).
That background buzzing sound? It's machine laughter . . .
This light volume premarket pump is just complete bullshit
Sadly it tends to work by sending weak bears for cover.
LYSENKO SAYS INSURGENTS ARE DAMAGING LOCAL GAS PIPELINES
Here comes the extended EU blackmail.
No help, no gazzzz.
i hope those lovely local folks from donetsk are rounding up as many poles,akademie,blackwater,g4s,sas,cia types.
round up all the nazis from the baltics.
bus them down to meet the families of the shot,the bombed the raped,the shattered
put them in stocks in town centres allow the maimed to tell stories of wrecked lives.
strip those mi6 mossad faggots down leave underpants on and let the locals ask them questions.
video it you tube it oh the humiliation.
let these merceneries families in the west see daddy confronted by old woman.
these mercenary worms need exposing to video light
Its all stupid and Europe should move to end it. Putin holds all the cards, this will become more obvious as winter nears and events unfold. It seems both Russia and many of the separatist in Eastern Ukraine would support federalization. Surely, no reason exist for Kiev to be opposed other than a loss of power. A more federalized government is also the most plausible way of keeping Ukraine intact.
Support for sanctions is mixed in Europe as some countries fear Russia and have an ax to grind with Putin while others wish to move forward. Saber rattling has only lead to death and destruction. As I see it little good will come from further bloodshed and it is time for the West to stop sending money to Kiev so they can ramp up the violence and continue the civil war. More on the progress being made in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/08/eu-moving-towards-deal-on-ukraine...
Clearly, this was designed to influence NATO talks this week. Next week, back to the battle.
Of course. The upward trend has been tested but not violated. Until it is, you gotta be long here...
Translation:
When does WWIII get started so that Super Mario & Co. can finally "unbutton" the algos and let market take it's final descent!
lets just fucking pretend here that a ceasefire in ukraine was actually legit?
why the fuck would stawks be fucking up on this shit?
a war in ukraine was never factored into the market, so y the fuck would the market soar on this shit?
its like, '' today is sunny in nyc, so the market should be up because there are no hurricanes on the horizon.
its all fucking bullshit, just another fucking made up bullshit story to pump these piece of shit markets up
US Equity Futures soaring at all-time highs. Madness soaring at all-time highs.
Any relation?
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