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The Battle For Strategic Mariupol Begins As NATO Vows To Do "Whatever It Takes"
Update: behold the shelling...
Shelling is reported to have started on the eastern outskirts of Mariupol, Ukraine, according to local reporters on social media. This crucial city, due to its standing as the last major city standing in the way of a land connection to Crimea (from Russia) across the Southern border. Furthermore, Mariupol's strategic importance as a port and major industrial city is crucial to Kiev who are reinforcing the city after losing Novoazovsk last week, with the Ukrainian army on full alert. NATO has been actively sabre-rattling this morning, pulling a full Draghi by threatening to do "whatever it takes" to defend ourselves and our allies, and offering training and support for Ukraine (as they report over 3,000 Russian troops in Ukraine). Escalation?
Shelling on the outskirts of Mariupol #Ukraine
— Simon Ostrovsky (@SimonOstrovsky) September 4, 2014
- UKRAINIAN ARMY ON TOP ALERT NEAR PORT CITY OF MARIUPOL, READY TO REPULSE POSSIBLE ATTACK BY REBELS - MILITARY SOURCE - RTRS
Furthermore,
"Artillery and tank fire audible on eastern edge of Mariupol. Ukrainians say 4 armored columns advancing towards Shirokina. Hint of panic:" France 24 journalist Robert Parsons says in Twitter post
"Apparently, the rebel tanks have left Novoazovsk several hours ago and are moving towards Mariupol now. Their current position is unclear:” freelance journalist Petr Shelomovskiy says in Twitter post
- *NATO SAYS >3,000 RUSSIA TROOPS W/ TANKS IN UKRAINE: SKY
NATO has some comments too...
“We have left no doubt that we will do whatever it takes to defend ourselves,” NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen says.
Rasmussen: “Russia’s aggression against Ukraine has been a wake-up call. It has reminded all of us that our freedom, security and prosperity cannot be taken for granted. Some are trying to redraw dividing lines in Europe with force”
Terrorism, Middle East turmoil, Russia’s aggression, the threats of cyber-warfare confront NATO with a “climate of chaos” on its borders, he says
Rasmussen: “We will adopt a readiness-action plan that will make our forces faster, fitter and more flexible, ready to address any challenges, whenever they come and from wherever they come”
Rasmussen: Readiness plan to center on “a military unit that can be deployed at very short notice if needed. It would be followed by more forces if needed”
NATO will step up cooperation with Ukraine, help build up and advise Ukraine’s military, he says
Rasmussen: “We will adopt a substantial package for Georgia, a package that will bring Georgia closer to NATO, including a defense-capacity initiative, establishing a training center in Georgia, occasionally also exercises in Georgia”
Rasmussen: “I see NATO as an alliance with a global perspective, not as a global policeman. We can’t solve all crises all over the world”
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If this is not escalation, then we are baffled as to what is...
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Now it seems Ukraine wants 'talks' again...
- *UKRAINE TO CALL TRUCE TOMORROW IF TALKS TAKE PLACE: POROSHENKO
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Did NATO just figure out something is going on over there?
well, they might start training soldiers for that war that's been going on for a few months now already...
so...
they'll train... and learn... from the best that have never been in a war so far...
Listen, if Putin was up for "world leader" I'd vote him in and so would many of my colleagues here in India. He represents true leadership.
Power to the people! Checkmate to the NWO!
Heads of states only represent the King or Queen on the chess board. The chess players making the actual moves are never the pieces on the board itself....
Maybe if all the pawns took a shit on the board it would not be any fun to play.
But it's hard to get the horsie-shaped winks to land in the cup.
Don't worry, the navy seals have it covered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZP3fYurqU
Things have been set in motion now. This is spinning out of control.
#fullretard
Party like it's 1939.
NATO certainly can't solve all of the world's crises. But they are pretty good at creating almost each and everyone.
Hard to follow someone to the gates of Hell when you're already in there.
NATO and the Ukrainian junta are worried because one of the top commanders of the Novorossiyan Military is calling for the destruction of all Ukrainian Oligarchs. He is bluntly stating that the Ukrainian people are the victims of predatory capitalism.
True although NATO is just one of the heads of the US Hydra.
UKRAINE TO CALL TRUCE TOMORROW IF TALKS TAKE PLACE: POROSHENKO
This is what typically what the losing side does before their army gets wiped out.
Of course, it's the last attempt to avoid complete and utter defeat. Now they are motivated. My only question is why would they think the other side would want to give up their advantage now?
Oh noes... NATO are going to PRINT MOAR TANKS
"True although NATO is just one of the heads of the US Hydra." It not the true US, if it were then we would not be involved its the banking elite, the money masters. The US "Citizens" gain nothing from this but more debt, who is owed the debt? The lenders are, they are the ultimate profiteers. The US Gov't is not functioning as it was intended a simple example is the use of executive orders from this president as well as his predecessors. It all goes back to the US bankrupcy in the 1930's then right after that you had the creation of all of the alphabet agencies that until then could not legally exist.
Where have you gotten this information? I'd like to see it and follow up. Thanks.
......I get my info from the same place that Rummsonfucktard of NATO gets his......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw
http://www.rferl.org
radio free europe has great live blog
Just to be clear about how great the blog is, who pays for Radio Free Europe?
NATO and the Ukrainian junta should really be more worried about the top commanders of the Ukrainian Army calling for the destruction of all Ukrainian Oligarchs. There have been rumblings about it for weeks - they are pissed. One of those Ukraine divisions they screwed over in the Donbass is going to turn around, march all the way back to Kiev and kick some junta ass. It's not really a counter-coup - they just want to kill the idiots that sent them to their death. I'm afraid the SBU won't fare well either. The Nazis can probably hold their own, but they'll just hide until the smoke clears.
Google 'Talmud Goyim'. All will be made clear.
Rasmussen: "ready to address any challenges, whenever they come and from wherever they come"
Is Ukraine on the North Atlantic coast, Ras? Georgia? Who exactly do you work for?
To Be replace with Russian Oligarchs of course ?
all the assets - ag / oil and gas . coal and industry belongs to the freedom fighters and their families - hang the oligarchs from lamposts on a Bridge / charge them with war crimes for $10 billion each / and turn over all the assets to an industrial board to privatize 49% interest the rest goes for infrastructure / pensions / education / rebuilding - plenty of financing throughout the world
leave Kiev with NOTHING
+ 1 and for the avatar : D
Mariupol will become re united with Novorossiya. The Ukrainian government is posturing, as their soldiers run with their tails between their legs. They are running because they will not sacrifice their lives to profit Porkyschenko, Kolomoisky, Yats and the rest of the Kiev Junta.
English Sept 2nd version of map above:
http://slavyangrad.org/map-of-hostilities-02092014/
Ukraine is now on its fourth mobilzation of men aged 20 to 60 to go fight in the east. These conscripts get under a weeks training, a mix of unifom clothing dontated by Germany, UK and France. When sent to the field they are not supplied or fed and have are led by incomptenets and then abanndonned by the Junta as they do not wish hews of their losses to reach the Ukrainian people. This is a PR war and the Ukrainian PR people (a US PR firm retained by Poroshenko) simply mouths on about gloroius victory and devious Russians.
What NATA fails to acknowledge is that all of this suffering stems from the actions of the USSA and its overthrow of a democratically elected government and $5 billion and more than 5 years worth of meddling and torublemaking in Russia's back yard.
The USSA is essentially sitting back in the position of "Now, lets you and him fight." and then using htis as a pretect to reinvigorate NATO (Good for USSA MIC exports) and undermine the euroeconomy (dstroy the competition then buy up assets at firesale prices.)
I suspect one outcome of this activity will be to push the Scots to vote for independence from the poltroons in London. And I suepct it lays the ground for further civil action elsewhere in Europe on the part of aall thoise citizens tired of their own Oligarchs.
God I hated that kid growing up: " Lets you and him fight"
Can someone explain to me the difference between Putin keeping his naval port in Crimea, and the US keeping Guantanamo after Castro overthrew a 'democratically elected' government in Cuba?
I don't remember Russia threatening war over booting the US out of there. I remember the missile crisis, but was war threatened over Guantanamo, or did the Russians just want to position them there in case? Because that's what the US wants to do with Russia, the very same thing.
Time to crack open my book of Viet Nam war aphorisms.
1. Don't fight a land war in Asia (Eurasia)
2. Don't fight a proxy war with a proxy whose people are not interested in the 'cause'.
3. People will fight to the death on their home ground.
4. Second or third worlders with first world weapons are a match for first worlders with first world weapons.
Party like it's 1965!!
5. Never bet against a Sicilian when death is involved.
Where does one obtain I-O-cain powerder from, I would like to start building up a tollerance for it?
6. Don't start what you can't finish. I,e, don't play Russian roulette with Ruskies.
Can it. When gold hits 2000, then we can talk about "spinning out of control". Until then, save it for chicken little.
cpn:
What makes you think the gold manipulators will let it go to 2000 - and moreso - what makes you think there is any unmanipulated relationahip to the price of gold and world events anyway?
Your post is very naive . . .
-30-
Quite the opposite - you missed my obvious point. Only when gold can hit a "magic" number like 2K will we know that things have gotten "unmanipulated" and everything has spun out of control to the point where the oligarchs can't control the markets anymore.
Take off the reading glasses, take a few steps back. Focus. Read again.
That is not how the owners operate. They will replace those shitty pieces with clean ones, get out the windex and paper towels, clean the shit off the board and continue the game either from the last move or call it a draw/forfeit depending, reset the pieces and start the same game anew.
The war that wasn't till it is.....
That's the plan, when the Kings and Queens are in shit quagmire, their owners will eventually have to come into the light to clean the chessboard.
Threatening people that have nothing to lose is always a losing bet.
I understand where you are going with this but what then? First off it won't be the owners cleaning the shit up themselves it like any priviledged class that is what the servants and housemaids are for. So you get that far and find the real owners and remove them what next? People are not ready to be free in the main, they want to be owned because they want to worship idoltry of some sort. Until they give that up nothing changes. They will just gravitate to a new owner to own them since people in the main are nothing more than 5 year olds not grown adults. The populace as a whole was ready the US a whole wouldn't be a failed experiment in freedom and liberty on a national scale and we wouldn't be at this point in the first place as country if the experiment wasn't a failure.
Best option is to learn from the mistakes and start anew elsewhere, you ain't salvaging this experiment as long as the populace as whole is at the maturation level of a 5 year old regardless of the variance of the indivduals in the country.
I would take the bottom up approach. liquidate the collaborators first, then kick the legs out from under the table. Underestimating my ability to live the life of a homeless dog would be a misstep.
If you believe in freedom and liberty that is exactly the approach that will win long term. If you believe like I do that people are the problem and also the solution then it can only be changed from the bottom up when the evolution through personal maturation takes hold and moves the whole mean of the average age of humanity from 5 years old to 6 or 7 for starters. The more mature the more able one is to handle power and freedom in a responsible mannner that doesn't ultimately drag everyone else down around them as a consequence of it. It should do the exact opposite and evolve them up not devolve to the lowest common denominator.
The owners make sure they never mature so the only way is to remove the 5 year olds and younger while letting the owners stay and keep owning people like human pets or remove the owners, unfortunately have to take the role of surrogate parent instead of owner of them and teach them so the 5 year olds and younger mature and grow until they are ready and able to be free and self sufficient.
Shits going to come apart. No use trying to prevent that.
But letting people know the truth about HOW and WHY its happening, thats real power. The information war will continue, regardless. People think the gov't is looking out for them, and even when the gov't renegs on promises (debts, currency, etc.) people will look to the gov't (and the media, of course) for explanation.
We live in a crazy world, where 1% of the population can grow the food for the rest, using oil, machinery, fertilizers. Another 1% can design and manufacture almost all the goods that are required. We have eliminated MANY tedious tasks, duties, errands, and yet this has somehow caused 'problems' in our society (like planned obsolescence, destruction of the environment, and the 'unemployment' problem).
Nay-Toe and Merika are going to need lots more canon fodder; thus, you have zero effort at controlling immigrates flooding across the border or floating in ships to thier shore. In fact, I suspect those gubmints will promise citizenship to those illegals who serve for x number of years in the military.
What a brilliant analogy.
That is certainly true, but it seems that Putin weilds significant power in Russia. I am skeptical that there are players that he has to report to.
All other countries, particularly ours (USA), agreed.
With that said don't think the players won't take advice and suggestions from the more important pieces on the board and actually act on them but the pieces on the board don't act unilaterally without the players blessing.
Fuck leaders. I have nothing against Putin and don't care what he wants to do in Russia.
But your ass should be taken out an horsewhipped for even hinting at a "world leader."
That kind of thinking kills millions.
pods
I vote for mysefl for leadership of the neighborhood block. Don't need much bigger governance than that.
I just want to be in charge of fiat money creation with no oversight or threat of an audit. Relax everybody, this time it will be different.
I always liked the phrase: First among equals". Perhaps, it is a contradiction or oxymoron but it comes as close to what sounds acceptable to me unless where it is the thoughtless babble of those who harbour nothing but words under their shallow foreheads.
This is one of many reasons democracy doesn't work, and republics were invented.
Listen.
"The King wears taupe" is bullshiz. Democracies exist for about 10 years max until some "group" overpowers and secretly influences whilst all "subjects" blissfully sing "We wish you a merry Christmas" while they are being rapped in a hole that they never even knew they had!
are you sure that's not "we wish you a merry x-mas?"
Can't imagine being in a hole with rapp music playing. I know I would cave.
Of course Democracy works.
It just stops working properly when you have too many people who turn into Sheeple;
Dumb, uninformed, too comfy or lazy, scared or disorganized.
Predators have the opposite attributes.
When the Checks & Balances are gone or compromised, the ratio of Predators to Prey changes to such an extent, that Democracy dies.
A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves
In ancient Greece, anyone proposing a new law was required to stand on a platform with a rope around his neck. If the law was approved, the rope was removed, if not...the platform was removed.
Sadly it's par for the course here at ZH. Most here love themselves some Putin, damned Americas imperialism but Putin, go ahead and have at it. I've come to the conclusion it is Russian intelligence spamming the boards so I just disregard such incompetent statements
I doubt it is russian spamming. Many here are just as fed up with Western hegemony as Putin no doubt is.
We've seen the collapse of our facade and our "leaders" scramble to rebuild it for the oligarchy (remember tanks in the streets?).
We are tired of seeing our life drained away in QE, running faster and faster on the wheel trying to maintain our place on among the herd while those close to the fiat spigot accrue vast wealth.
When someone comes along who opposes that hegemony, it is easy for many to gravitate to them.
But to suggest a "leader for the world" is absolute insanity.
Most smart people (left) here understand that anytime there is power concentrated, sociopaths seek to control that power. The greater the concentration, the worse things can end up.
pods
+100
I can agree with this.
The error most media outlets play into is that this is some sort of struggle between an eastern power and a western one. Russia is very much a traditionally western culture and people. The Russ tribe came from northern Europe and settled into places like Kiev and Moscow. The Russian culture is a direct result of the culture that existed in the Eastern Roman Empire for a thousand years after the fall of the Western Empire. The same game is playing out here today. It is almost laughable how similar it is. The west of Europe has been overrun by barbarians and leaches and have instituted suicidal economic policies. The East has attempted to consolidate after the fall of their empire i.e. Soviet Union, but they have learned from their mistakes and are taking action to ensure the survival of western civilization most likely for another 1000 years. Hopefully they learn from the mistakes that ended with the sack of Constantinople by Mohammad II and considering the actions Russia has taken against Chechnya I think he is well aware of the dangers that Islam presents to Russia and to civilization as a whole. Putin is the only leader of any nation I have heard of for thousands of years who has the "big picture" figured out. I support him because the future is much different than the lines we drew on the map 200 years ago. Things have always changed and they always will. Putin's change is for the better, Kiev's change is for a status quo that is guarenteed to fail.
dp
It is an error to expect media outlets, owned by the same moneyed classes who instigate imperialism for their benefit, (at the expense of the gullible who fight, get maimed and die for them, as well as pay for the whole enterprise: socialize the expense in blood and treasury, privatize the profits) to report reality. Media outlets are there to propagandize, obfuscate, hide the truth, mislead you, lie, get you to hate their targets, so that you can allow them to screw you as an enabler, and screw the target.
Will the European people allow their subservient treacherous leaders to commit economic hare-kiri and war, death and destruction, for the sole benefit of the USA?
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Let's just replace it with Russian and Chinese hegemony.
You guys are so stupid, it's incomprehensible.
Russia is doing the same thing, if the USA did this you would be apoplectic.
Russian hegemony? Where, along it's borders? In actually PRODUCING something that people want?
I loathe China more than most, afterall they will steal anything not nailed down.
Here is a little tidbit Mr. Smartest Guy Ever, the US has been doing this for over a hundred years. Hasn't fought a war to protect the actual physical nation in probably 200.
You kneejerk left-righters make my ass twitch.
pods
Caligula agrees with this!
He has been a member for about a week. So yea I think there is something about him. Notice that his comment was not made in an answer to another comment. It was just made out of the blue.
My bet is that his goal is to make this place looks like we are all unconditional Putin lovers.
I agree with "pods" as to why Putin has some sympathy here.
If "he" is referring to me being a member for only a week, you had probably better recheck my account as I have been here since the beginning.
I think he meant "Bangalore Equity Trader".
Bro he's just pissed that people are allow a free range of thoughts.
This departure from the groupthink collective makes his skin itch and the discomfort is unbearable.
Let him be, for I will be first to identify him as a member of ISIL's well oiled propaganda machine. He is paid by the proceeds of oil looted from the Iraqi people and should be looked at with deep suspicions by all! He is extremely dangerous. Beware.
"Putin lovers"...
On your way to Russia, are you?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185191.html
Safe travels my friend.
Go and suck your own dick.
What a fuckin' Satanist.
BRING ON THE ANTICHRIST...YEAH...NOT.
"On your way to Russia, are you?"
Russians can take care of themselves, but I hear there's a few Dalits in Hindustan that could use our help.
you dirty rat! --Cagney
James Cagney never said that in a movie.
I agree with pods also.
I do not care if that Bangaladore jerk has only been here a week. This is Fight Club and he needs to be horsewhipped for the shit he is trying to pull off.
World Leader???
He can go and autofellate that spineless, contortionist freak.
He wants to contort the position of those of us on Fight Club???
He does contort so well that he probably does suckle upon his own penis.
As opposed to western leaders that have, wait for it, killed millions since WWII?
and don't forget the only people to ever actually drop a nuke on civilians.
Or fire bombed entire cities.
The alleged cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were villages, in comparison.
Or US doctors who kill by the tens of thousands each year with Rx errors. See yesterday's ZH article.
Could I trouble you to explain the "pods" thing?
And yes... fuck the whole "World Leader" idea.
pods is a nickname I got a long time ago, from Tin Cup. (you got the shot pods!)
As for annoyingly signing my name, well that one there is no real reason, just been doing it since I started on message boards.
pods
Damn! I always thought it was a reference to Miskatonic University in Arkham, Massachusetts, "Home off the Fighting Cephalopods"! Go Pods!
(Check out H.P. Lovecraft)
+1 for the nom de guerre anyway.
dude, get your face out of Lovecraft or you really will be cliffdiving off the mountains of madness :P
yeah lovecraft is intense. re-animator with barbara crampton is a classic. re-animator 2 with barbara crampton is pretty good, too.
Meh, to each their own:
"Some march to a different drum, others Polka!"
He was just saying "if we had to vote". We don't of course. But of all the world leaders today, can you name one other that you'd vote for? The problem with the world today is the LEADERS.
I know many of you 'mericans need your leaders to be, well how can I say? More like Ellen Degenerous or "Frankie" on the current "Big Brother House" Teeveeee showwwww....... If you know what I mean?
The kind of people who like to be guided by the "influencer". lol A man with a streak of pink hair on top and tightly cross-wrapped legs when he sits.
"Go 'merica"! USA! USA!
you know what?? Fuck you! Most americans, not the stupid sheep, don't need a leader to "guide them". Go bath and have a drink in the shit ridden, floating corpse river.
Take it easy my friend.
Your entire county is not what it appears to be to your "Most americans"(the smart ones). Study the film "The Matrix" because you're living it.
USA! USA! Russia is now going to take your little Ukrainian pawns and give them a home to be proud of. But wait, theres more! The plan will unite them, in due time, all the way over to their friend in Iran.
Go Putin!
I will take back my fuck you after reading your comment, response again...I kind of get what you are saying.
"Most americans, not the stupid sheep,"
Most americans, are the stupid sheep,
You calling us gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
No. You dislike real leaders and allow them to be assassinated. You only permit "good showmen", broadway types who can read well from the script. So your incessant need to be entertained is fulfilled.
"The Fight Club theme" herein is commentary upon your need to be entertained, distracted, and manipulated by people who really hate the fuck out of you.
Actually........you make a lot of sense.
I could only imagine what a different world this would be if RP actually got into office and survived while there. The 'merican dog would shake off all of it's flees and tics and come back to life, wait, what. Oh sorry I dozed off into dream world. "Waiting for Boris".
Where the fuck is Boris with some Ukraine funny talk?
Ron Paul...great guy...and got exactly what done??
What about John Huntsman Jr.?
Cockblocked by your media apparatus Mr.MrButtoMcFarty.
Look at the traction that Jr. gets because he reads from the script. But he makes us all puke in our mouths thinking that dad's seed must have been somehow poisoned by "The Lab".
Not that I disagree with you overall, but it does feel a little odd to get lectured by an Indian about how Americans allow their leaders to be assassinated. You've been doing pretty well in that regard over the past 65 years, too.
Bang I appreciate your non North American perspective butyou have one thing drastically wrong with your premis. Contrary to popular belief we do not elect our "leaders" they are appointed for us and remain in place exactally as long as planed. I would argue that the USA has not elected a leader since Kennedy but of course the bankers murdered him just like all the others that opposed their beloved system.
Know your enemy
AD
Gay doesn't even come close to describing what it is they do.
R
If anyone was up for "world leader" I and a lot of my colleagues here at ZH would NOT vote for them. We don't want a world leader. We want to be left alone.
When people talk about a "world leader" (and it doesn't matter if they're for or against one), they are arguing over the Ladder, rather than the Wall it is leaning on.
The 'Wall' in this case is the false paradigm of a Pyramidal Hierarchy that is being perpetuated. In a culture of Absolutism - which has this built into the very DNA of its Monotheistic religions - the acceptance of The Wall is automatic, it is in the "Mother's Milk".
I explicitly ID that Wall and categorically reject it, because (better) alternatives exist that allow a People to rule themselves -- and I'm not talking about Chaos. Nature gives us lots of clues, we just need to recognize them.
Hint: Your body is far more complex than any human Org, yet functions well on a sustained basis. No Pyramidal "Leader" was necessary for your body to develop, grow, heal or adapt.
95% of you are still stuck in very simple and outdated concepts, and circle around them like a scared rabbit circles around his rabbit hole, when pursued by a predator. Time to stop being a scared rabbit?
Ever have the feeling that you're an alien (from space)? It's like finding yourself strapped in to a chair and watching the slow motion train wreck forming as no one else sees or hears anything, and, you're unable to speak (well, you say words, but others can't seem to comprehend them).
We're non-conformists. I suppose that this is the cost...
Your body is (just) a vessel. When you see the light, go towards it!
Vote for World Leader???? This is not a fucking beauty contest.
The sad part about this? The world is divided - AGAIN! The 0,01% are laughing and drinking Champagne.
ZE GERMANS disagree with you. This is a Poll that "Die Welt" did and most of the readers think Putin is even more dangerous and want a hard line against him:
http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article131898724/Und-wenn-Putins-Kurs-mehr-ist-als-ein-boeser-Traum.html
I think it is sad to see how MSM is working so well on the masses. How could Germans forget? They got their ass kicked TWICE.
Better move to an island and let this madness go wherever it wants...
Yes. True leaders are 5'4" and feel the need to take off their shirts to have their picture taken wrestling tigers.
First, the whole idea of "World Leader" is repugnant. However, I am curious as to why. Is it because he is a fellow socialist? Is it just his personal charisma and intelligence? Is it because of who he opposes or do you want to see a revived USSR? Genghis Khan was a great leader. Abu Bakr is doing pretty well with ISIS.
"Listen, if Putin was up for "world leader" I'd vote him in and so would many of my colleagues here in India. He represents true leadership."
I agree that he is certainly a great leader. I wouldn't go for him as the 1 world president though. It is just a bad of an idea as any other world governance idea.
Shelling by consultants and advisers.
I guess we got lied to again.
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but yesterday they had a cease fire.....wtf
Looks like they mistakenly used "terrorists" instead of freedom fighters on the map. But then again terrorist now essentially means anyone fighting against the new world (banking) order.
We are all Terrissisississ now.
Speak for yourself. ;-)
I'm a Terrarist: I'm for Terra, not Terror.
ps. "Fuck you, NSA!"*
* Meaning you can play that Good Will Hunting clip again, where Will tells you the same thing in a more detailed and entertaining way. "F U NSA!" is just my shorthand notation.
FUNSA! my new email signoff. Thanks
The warmongers will get their war. Propaganda works. No matter what is actually going on, the seeds of war have been sown a long time ago.
The USA's sheep pen has been whipped up into a fever pitch, "caliphate" is now common on the radio, as is the phrase "we have to do something."
Turn on any radio and listen. Look online at any local news site and the comments on articles dealing with Russia or ISIS, or the ME in general.
The USA is in the vinegar strokes for another release of JDAM democracy.
pods
Is that one of those "clue-bats" I keep hearing about on the interwebz?
Excellent likeness! The caption nails it.
A good to read article if ZH trusts me to post links.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm
Hmmm, coincidentally I think they announced 3000 US/NATO troops are training in Ukraine, or Poland.......whatever.
Rasmussen is the prototype of an abhorrent psychopath! His picture could be an optimal illustration in psychiatry books.
Indeed, Squire. Me thinketh that something rotten is in the State of Denmark, and it's not the 'fromage'.
If only he were to debate the "To be or not to be" soliloquy about himself, rather than about millions of people in other lands.
Danish "Cunt"! With profound apologies to regular [cough] "cunts", which are to be adored and loved.
Given the West created this conflict by supporting the terrorists who deposed the elected govt, and then installed a Junta that attacked its own people with artillery when they protested against losing their human rights, The NATO has been party to causing this civil war. Now NATO has created a civil war it is using itas an excuse to extend its tentacles and expand its territorial ambitions. Get back in your box NaATO and give peace a chance!
Does 'whatever it takes' include promising to buy bonds, but then not actually buying any? Is NATO taking strategy lessons from Draghi? Maybe Draghi has been put in charge of NATO!
NATO is the enforcement arm of the usury empire afterall...
NATO Another Terrorist Organization
ZATO- zionist armies of total occupation....
@ kriskritter,
N. orth
A. merican
T. erroist
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That's what I refer to the Congress and DHS as...
Operation GLADIO comes to mind.
Need moar Lebensraum!
Rasmussen using the 'we' when Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
An escalation?
Maybe they'll ram through a NATO application approval real quick.
Sounds like escalation to me, too.
They'll be temorarily deputized!
Would that be considered subprime?
NATO will cut rates too?
How many troops has NATO sent to Ukraine? Not counting the Blackwater mercenaries and CIA and FBI agents that the Nobel Prize Winner has sent to enhance peace in our time.
Here's a complete and updated list of ZATO/ Ukie losses between May 2nd and August 21st:
Casualties
Total: 32.702
Dead and wounded: 20.274
Prisoner, deserters and missing: 12.418
Destroyed or captured material:
I. Aviation
Attack
- 16 Su-25 (one captured 7 July)
Bomber
- 7 Su-24
Fighter
- 2 MiG-29
Recon
- 1 AN-30
- 6 drones
Transport
- 2 AN-26
- 2 IL 76
I.a Helicopters
- 20 attack and transport Mi-24, Mi-17 y Mi-8
II. Ground forces materiel
Tanks Total: 347 ( 68 captured )
- 319 T-64 ( 65 captured )
- 2 T-64 Bulat
- 7 T-72 ( 3 captured )
- 19 T-84-U Oplot
Armored vehicles Total: 602 ( 119 captured )
- 163 BMP Infantry Fighting Vehicle, tracked ( 69 capturados )
- 125 BMD IFV Paratroopers, tracked ( 9 captured )
- 312 BTR Armored Personnel Carrier, wheeled ( 39 captured )
- 2 BRDM Scout Vehicle, wheeled ( 2 captured )
Artillery Total: 180 ( 122 captured pieces )
- 4 SO-203 2S7 "Pion" 203mm
- 5 SAU 2S3 "Acacia" 152mm (1 captured )
- 30 SAU 122 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm ( 25 captured )
- 2 Mortars 2S4 Tyulpan 240mm(2 captured
- 6 Mortars SAU Nona 120mm (6 captured )
- 21 Antiaircraft guns ZU 23-2 ( 18 captured )
- 24 Rocket launcher Grad 122mm ( 24 captured )
- 11 Rocket launcher Uragan 220mm (4 captured )
- 45 howitzer D-30 122mm ( 10 captured )
- 32 mortars82mm ( 32 captured )
Trucks and cars Total: 153 (124 captured )
- 5 Hummer
- Jeep
- 25-66 GaZ
- Staff car
- Mobile crane
- 1 ZIL 131
- 2 KrAZ
- 58 Ural trucks
- 69 Kamaz trucks
- 4 UAZ 469
Thanks for the info.
Sounds like a war!
Maybe the Red Shield's boys Camroone and Harper can send in Canadian Mounties and some of those English cops that cannot be bothered to arrest Pakistanis raping English children. Clueless evil cowards.
The western "leaders" are scum. They don't care about the Ukrainian people or their own people. All they care about are the elites and the ponzi scheme, extortion, drug dealing, prostitution, banking fraud and other scams they run. Evil bastards.
come on freddie the pink jewish fellas are running the paedo rings the pakis are not masonic they are the low level mules.
greville janner has raped hundreds of kids and he is a mossad lord who will never be charged.
the paki shit is another distraction.
do pakis run london police stations
Lambeth Police Station Paedophile Sex Ring Dungeon Scandal