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Russian General Demands Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO

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While NATO is contemplating its existential purpose in a world where the Cold War has suddenly come back with a vengeance, and the military alliance has found itself woefully unprepared to deal with a Russia which no longer accepts the supremacy of the west (appropriately enough NATO is doing this on a golf course) Russia is also strategizing, only instead of issuing "sharply-worded catchphrases" and hashtags, a Russian general has called for Russia to revamp its military doctrine, last updated in 2010, to clearly identify the U.S. and its NATO allies as Moscow's enemy number one. That in itself is not disturbing: we reported as much yesterday and is merely more rhetorical posturing. Where things, however, get very problematic is that the general demands that Russia spell out the conditions under which the country would launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the 28-member military alliance.

Moscow Times reports that Russia's military doctrine, a strategy document through which the government interprets military threats and crafts possible responses, is being revised in light of threats connected to the Arab Spring, the Syrian civil war and the conflict in Ukraine, the deputy chief of the Kremlin's security council told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

That however is the soundbite for politically correct media purposes. Because within the Defense Ministry there are voices calling for different priorities.

"First and foremost, the likely enemy of Russia should be clearly identified in this strategic document, something absent from the 2010 military doctrine. In my view, our primary enemy is the U.S. and the North Atlantic bloc," General Yury Yakubov, a senior Defense Ministry official, was quoted as saying by Interfax.

If this sounds like a statement taken right out of the (first) Cold War, one involving the whole nuclear arms race, is because it is. The 2010 doctrine defines NATO expansion as a threat to Russian national security and reaffirms its right to use nuclear weapons in a defensive posture, but stops far short of declaring NATO as Moscow's primary adversary and laying preemptive nuclear strike scenarios on the table, a posture unmistakably reminiscent of the Cold War.

At the basis of this dramatic escalation is none other than Russia's stated response to what it perceives as a clear expansionary NATO threat.

Yakubov said the information war being waged over the crisis in Ukraine — where the West accuses Russia of arming separatists fighting the government in Kiev — and NATO's announcement that it would establish a permanent military presence in Eastern Europe have validated earlier fears that the alliance's claims of non-aggression toward Russia were insincere.

And the punchline: the general added that special attention should be paid to integrating the functions of the newly created Air and Space Defense Forces with Russia's land, sea and air based nuclear forces. "In addition, it is necessary to hash out the conditions under which Russia could carry out a preemptive strike with the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces," he said.

One can be certain that this is precisely what Russia will do.

So what happens next?

Recall what former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said in November 2008 in his first presidential address to the Russian people: "Russia will deploy Iskander missile systems in its enclave in Kaliningrad to neutralize, if necessary, the anti-ballistic missile system in Europe." An anti-ballistic missle system also known as NATO.

Which it did less than a year ago, long before the Ukraine civil war was headline news every day. This is what happened the last time Russia flexed its nuclear deterrence muscles, in November of 2013.

Russia has stationed missiles with a range of about 500 kilometers in its Kaliningrad enclave and along its border with the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Germany’s Bild-Zeitung reports, citing defense officials it didn’t identify. Satellite images show a “double-digit” amount of mobile units identified as SS-26 Stone in NATO code. Missiles were stationed within the past 12 months. SS-26 can carry conventional as well as nuclear warheads.

This is merely Russia being true to its warning word. From April 2012:

Moscow reiterated on Tuesday it may deploy Iskander theater ballistic missiles in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad that will be capable of effectively engaging elements of the U.S. missile defense system in Poland.

 

NATO members agreed to create a missile shield over Europe to protect it against ballistic missiles launched by so-called rogue states, for example Iran and North Korea, at a summit in Lisbon, Portugal, in 2010.

 

The missile defense system in Poland does not jeopardize Russia’s nuclear forces, Army General Nikolai Makarov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said.

 

“However, if it is modernized…it could affect our nuclear capability and in that case a political decision may be made to deploy Iskander systems in the Kaliningrad region,” he said in an interview with RT television.

 

“But that will be a political decision,” he stressed. “So far there is no such need.”

A little over two years later, there is a need.


Which means forget "little green men" in Ukraine. Think massive Russian Iskander ICBM systems planted on the border with Poland, Ukraine, the Baltics and all across Russia Western border, and the furious screamfest this would waterfall into.

We can't wait to see how algos will spin such pre-emptive steps to a very mushroom cloudy World War III...

 

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Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:53 | 5181742 Seer
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Silly paper!

Didn't anyone figure that rocks and scissors would win?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:05 | 5181482 Confused
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Unless that piece of land, half way across the world, is strategically important to maintaining hedgemony. With the added benefit of keeping Russia on its heels. 

 

The empire, sadly, will not back down. Hopefully it never comes to something like this. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:38 | 5181304 Againstthelie
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And ZH is fearmongering by touting the most logical and normal response to the warmongering, encirclement, threatening of Russia, as ESCALATION.

No, the escalation is done by those who spent 5 bn $ for a coup in Ukraine. By those who were shooting on Feb. 20. on both sides on Maidan! Those who were escalating thing sin Odessa with more than 45 dead. Those who shot down MH17 and tried to blame Russia!

 

Russia is only defending itself.

Oh and btw, where on the globe is Russia and what the hell is USrael doing in Ukraine?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:42 | 5181345 El Vaquero
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Just because we have been playing dirty in the shadows doesn't mean that Russia cannot escalate.  If Russia's military doctrine is rewritten to name us explicitly as enemies and spell out the conditions for a preemptive nuclear strike, you can take that as a red line.  A real red line, unlike the kind that the golfer-in-chief draws. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:08 | 5181503 Confused
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Right, they have laid down their cards. The question is, how does the west respond? Lets just hope they are really as inept as we all believe them to be, and they fuck this up without any shots (any additional) fired. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:19 | 5181576 El Vaquero
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It is their ineptness that scares the shit out of me.  Even if nuclear war is not the goal, they might do something that kicks one off anyway.  I have little doubt that Russia will launch first if enough of them become convinced that a nuclear exchange is inevitable.  

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:58 | 5181766 Seer
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El, it's NOT ineptness.  Keep in mind that one can really only go so far in poker with a shitty hand.  Russia clearly has a superior hand (resources and proximity to the contested/heated areas [shorter supply line routes])- there is no reason for them to fold it.

Eventually, a LOT of humans are going to perish.  If not by war then by other means (I think most know what they could be, so no need to elaborate).

I have to wonder whether TPTB (on both sides) really would have any safe place to go should a nuclear war break out.  If you can answer this question (with accuracy) then you'd likely then know how it will go...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:19 | 5181867 El Vaquero
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I really don't think that TPTB understand the weapons that they control.  I've had discussions with a now deceased man who was on the Manhatten Project and another very old man who got to watch the Hood Shot, which was 74kt.  According to both of them, you really cannot comprehend the devistation of a nuclear weapon without witnessing one first hand.  Very few people alive today have actually witnessed one.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:17 | 5182131 Not Too Important
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Not a big one, but lots of us have seen Fukushima's reactors blow. And the fallout is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times worse.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:11 | 5182345 Omen IV
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Once China cones in on Russian side - the combination of nuclear and overwhelming number of people over so many time zones will preserve the resources that Russia has and US will have a Europe totally freaked out - US may be check mated but not before - they are committed to total destruction that Europe will act -  DC believes the US population is considered Labor not citizens subject to replacement - fuck them!

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 20:02 | 5182364 Not Too Important
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Goldman was hired to help with the Alibaba IPO. There's nothing but a dark cloud hanging over China, with a bad smell of sulphur.

How do you say 'Lucifer' in Chinese?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 04:43 | 5183485 matrix2012
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"How do you say 'Lucifer' in Chinese?"

Lùxifa / Lùxifu   :: Lucifer (Satan's name before his Fall in Jewish and Christian mythology)

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 20:56 | 5182701 Againstthelie
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Why do you think, the US ZOG dropped two atomic bombs on Japan but not one since then? Because of the concept of MAD (mutual assured destruction). This concept has been the foundation of stability.

And why do you think, is ZOG positioning anti rocket systems around Russia?

Because they want to remove Russia's ability to defend itself against a nuclear attack. As soon as that would be the case, ZOG would again begin to drop atomic bombs!

So you better pray, the Russians keep their ability of MAD otherwise the enemy of mankind will go berserk.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 23:00 | 5183099 The_Prisoner
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And McStain is in Kiev spouting more insane shit. Says US must provide Ukraine with anti-tank weapons. The same kind they gave to ISIS, I guess.

The crippled cocksucker must have stock on those weapons manufacturers.

As if American Javelin missiles had not already been captured by the novorossyian forces after being delivered as non-lethal aid by Canada.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:38 | 5182450 ukrassian
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USrael is a type of cancer which is killing human beings around the world

the only treatment that might help is Radiotherapy.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:26 | 5182248 Stares straight...
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So, spell it out for me:
Russia/Putin is an enemy of the Deep State or part of it? (I feel a strange Cognitive Dissonance rooting for a preemptive strike against myself.)
Is the term "Deep State" sufficiently and intentionally vague to cover the known unknowns, so to speak?
I want a list...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:24 | 5181208 McMolotov
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads#Storyline

This movie pretty much spelled it all out. Read the plot and be shocked/scared/shitting down your leg.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:35 | 5181277 Ignatius
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If we had a media network with any independence and guts they'd also be playing Dr Strangelove all month.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:46 | 5181367 A82EBA
Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:19 | 5181577 Freddie
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+1

Takes place in Sheffield.  No need for any special effects for destruction and desolation.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 05:39 | 5183516 matrix2012
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Good link After watching this video, a setting of 1980s, one may not want to live post nuke war today.

 

Threads (1984) Full Movie

 

Published on Sep 17, 2013

Clearer version than the one currently available, of the classic British nuclear war movie. Scary, realistic, and brutal telling of a story about ordinary people in Sheffield and what would happen in the event of a nuclear conflict. 

Even though this is an 80s film, and it's from that cold war era. I still think it's very thought provoking and relevant Have we dodged the bullet? Time as always, will tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:23 | 5181210 Anusocracy
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What do you expect?

The US and its butt-buddies in Europe are waging economic warfare. I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner.

The US has a history of economic warfare.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:27 | 5181233 boogerbently
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No one really wants war, but I think Russia's military capabilities have been WOEFULLY over exagerrated. 

(To keep us constantly investing and innovating).

The MIC we always complain about has kept us lightyears ahead of the rest of the pack.

ISIS, if you were to believe the press, went from a non entity about a month ago, to a top 5 super power.

Seriously!?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:33 | 5181278 Herd Redirectio...
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Their ability conquer and hold both Western Europe and America, definitely.  Their ability to defend Russia?  I don't think so.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:44 | 5181352 El Vaquero
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^This^

 

When it comes to fending off an invasion, those fuckers will not give up.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:55 | 5181423 demoses
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Same as Germany 70 years ago. Sure on a plain battlefield with equal numbers German technology would just clean the filed. But the Russian never back down and this time the war wont be over when CNN runs the headlines "We won!". You "won" Iraq ... mission acomplished... with that kind of a victory I do just can not imagive what a loss would look like :)

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:16 | 5181554 MrPalladium
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" I think Russia's military capabilities have been WOEFULLY over exagerrated."

And you therefore suggest we provoke them into letting the nukes fly in order to find out?

A remarkably stupid bet, as leading edge nukes are the one military asset they are sure to have made their top defense priority.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:26 | 5182396 BraveSirRobin
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The only thing more incompetent than the Russian military is the Ukranian military.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 20:03 | 5182537 Not Too Important
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The old, retired guys are doing a pretty good job in Novorussiya.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:37 | 5182883 MrPalladium
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They seemed mighty competent indeed in the campaingn to free South Ossetia from the Georgian invasion and their incursion into Georgia.

The campaign was over in 8 hours, finished for all practical purposes by Russian paratroopers and air cover before the tanks even arrived. The izzy troops and American mercs folded quickly. A stern lesson for Eastern European Countries that think a few outside troops and adivisors guarantee success.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 06:07 | 5183534 matrix2012
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@ MrPalladium and any other, 

any reference what really happened in Georgia theater back then, just day(s) before the opening 2008 Beijing Olympics?

I just remember to watch in teevee the spectacular scenes of the obviously distressed face of the fatty Saakashvili biting his tie and the other one, wagged his big ass to go to the hide-out in fear

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:20 | 5181878 blentus
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And you are probably coming to this conclusion because... you are exceptional, and they are not, right?

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:30 | 5181236 AssFire
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We will all be better after just 1: 38.8951° N, 77.0367° W Washington, D.C., Coordinates
Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:24 | 5182389 BraveSirRobin
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"The controversial NATO sponsored report entitled Towards a Grand Strategy for an Uncertain World: Renewing Transatlantic Partnership“. 

Uhh, that's not a NATO report. It was produced by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) which is an academic center within Georgetown University. NATO has never given funds to CSIS.

In addition, NATO does not have nuclear weapons, though of course NATO member states the United States, the United Kingdom, and France do. NATO does not govern the development, employment, or doctrine for the use of these weapons, which has always been a concern of other NATO member states, especially Germany, who thought the US very willing to fight a nuclear war in Germany or western Europe to avoid one in the US.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 20:04 | 5182547 Not Too Important
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"...especially Germany, who thought the US very willing to fight a nuclear war in Germany or western Europe to avoid one in the US."

Well, there has been a lot of field testing with theatre nukes in the last few years.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 22:29 | 5183042 matrix2012
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Preparing the Chessboard for the “Clash of Civilizations”: Divide, Conquer and Rule the “New Middle East”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/preparing-the-chessboard-for-the-clash-of-c...

 

Indeed some psychopathic neocons do believe that a nuclear war is WINNABLE!

Prof. Michel Chossudovsky cuts through the chaos and deception to show the reader exactly how and why humanity is facing an existential threat. It is a wake-up call that the world is being pushed towards catastrophic conflict. SYRIA is one of the targets to take over (in near future), with the next one is IRAN!!!

Prof. Chossudovsky shows that, incredibly, the same deception that the Western governments and media perpetrated to facilitate the war on Iraq less than a decade ago is now being repeated with Iran. But the real threat to world peace and the future of humanity is not Iran and its non-existent nuclear weapons program – it is the US-led alliance of NATO powers and their Middle East partners, Israel, Turkey and the handful of Gulf Arab monarchs.

The real agenda behind the drive for war is imperialist control of natural resources in a region that possesses some 60 per cent of all known reserves of oil and gas – the lifeblood of the capitalist global economy. Cloaked with the fictitious cover of “war on terror”, “international security” and “humanitarian intervention”, realities are being turned upside down.

The agenda for global control of resources is a long-term dynamic that Washington and its NATO allies have had on the drawing board for decades. The nine-year war on Iraq is but one episode of this unfolding scheme of conquest. The NATO-orchestrated regime change in Libya is also part of this military roadmap, which now has Iran in its sights. BUT this war lust will NOT stop with IRAN. It is about global conquest by Western powers in which ultimately CHINA and RUSSIA are also marked out as future enemies.

Disturbingly, the US-led agenda of permanent war has incorporated the doctrine of pre-emptive strikes with ALL military options, including the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons and a new generation of so-called monster bombs. The imminent military showdown in the Persian Gulf could turn out to be not just a regional explosion of latent conflicts – it may be the trigger for a conflagration between global powers armed with nuclear arsenals capable of unleashing destruction that puts the very future of the planet in the balance.

 

The Western public has a vital task in preventing their governments’ drive for war. 

“Towards a World War III Scenario: The Dangers of Nuclear War“ by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

http://www.globalresearch.ca/towards-a-world-war-iii-scenario-the-real-i...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 23:58 | 5183234 Real Estate Geek
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WTF?  Seriously, What.The.Fuck? 

". . . the first use of nuclear weapons must remain “in the quiver of escalation as the ultimate instrument to prevent the use of weapons of mass destruction . . ."

These pricks have really outdone them selves.  And I thought they could never top the 'logic' of "we had to destroy the village to save it."

Roast in Hell Motherfuckers!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 04:40 | 5183481 NidStyles
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This article is click bait. Seems to me it's almost time to leave ZH, she is dying as bad as Digg died.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:21 | 5181191 Grande Tetons
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She revealed the truth about Obama a few weeks back. Accidents happen. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:28 | 5181241 Herd Redirectio...
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Nothing those on ZH didn't know long ago.

I thought maybe she mentioned that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's real father.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:33 | 5181275 Grande Tetons
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Stop it...or another Blist celebrity gets it. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:06 | 5181490 Bangalore Equit...
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No but really, I heard here in India that Joan actually died from rabies after an interview with the baby of your Jaysee and Beyose, their little baby called "Blue Virus" bit her and she contracted Rabies.

That's what I heard....

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:44 | 5181354 Zirpedge
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Nope, It's Richard Pryor. See his first black president sketch circa 1977 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaXxl5Pc6As

 

Also http://wellaware1.com/artwork/large/Channel-Art-Template-(Photoshop)-32).jpg

http://wellaware1.com/artwork/large/like-father-like-son.jpg <---The child Barry / Richard are striking!

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:26 | 5181610 Rusty Shorts
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That first link, check out Robin Williams standing in the back of the room, as a photographer lol

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:31 | 5181635 Herd Redirectio...
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Richard Pryo calls the Neutron Bomb a  "neo-pacifist weapon", and the US has "no plans to enter the Middle East at this time".

LOL.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:38 | 5182202 Not Too Important
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That first link didn't last long.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 23:39 | 5183188 Zirpedge
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Wat? Did you just upvote yourself?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:05 | 5184582 red_pill
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google up some images of Malcolm X and compare to the Prez...pretty close match I'd say

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:36 | 5181292 Everybodys All ...
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I liked Joan's comedy a lot and may she rest in peace. She was never afraid to say what she felt and never fell prey to the PC police which I deplore.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:59 | 5181449 Grande Tetons
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Agreed. She was a great guest host for Carson back in the day. 

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:18 | 5181841 Bangalore Equit...
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Hey absolutely. It's obvious that in the middle of the "Russian General Demands Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO" thread that the "locals" are calling for TMZ dialog that YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY IS TOAST!

Can we get back on track here? If not, Go watch your entrainment mind control appliance.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:00 | 5182057 Grande Tetons
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YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY IS TOAST!

Have caution my moronic friend. This toaster can toast a lot of bread at the same time. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:04 | 5182322 Bangalore Equit...
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You make as much sense as a slice of burnt toast!

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:13 | 5181531 Confused
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Yeah. She was totally funny the last 20 years, while she was giving people 'color commentary' on celebrity outfits. 

 

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Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:26 | 5181549 Lore
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'You're dead, you deserve to be dead - you started it': Joan Rivers in astonishing attack on 'stupid' Palestinians (DailyMail UK, 8-Aug, beware pop-ups and shit)

Joan Rivers has said she has no sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza, declaring they 'deserve to be dead'. The 81-year-old comedian launched a furious rant outside a Los Angeles airport, saying that the Palestinians who do not leave their homes are ‘idiots’ and that 'at least the ones that were killed were the ones with very low IQs'.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:57 | 5181756 walküre
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She was just making friends all over the place, wasn't she? I do not believe she was died by TPTB. She had access to the best medical system and the most expensive treatments known.

She still died at age 81 with her mind intact (relative to those suffering from dementia etc.)

That is more than many here will get to experience.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 03:33 | 5183453 tvdog
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You consider that remark about the Palestinians to be evidence of a sound mind?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:47 | 5181318 Zirpedge
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@Herd..JR decided to point out the inconveninet truth about Michael Obama. She is a horrible racist homophobe and the world is better off without her cunning fashion insight mixed with racial hatred and transgender bashing. There is a particularly distasteful youtube circulating regarding FLOTUS and Venus Williams having all the anatomic markers of men, which needs to be shut down.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:34 | 5181646 Herd Redirectio...
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Thats rayciss agains' black women!

I don't think Michelle or the Williams' sisters are trannies.  Thats misdirection from Golf Club Barry, and his papa, Frank Marshall Davis (i.e. he's not Muslim, or from Kenya, his pappy was a Chi-town Commie)

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 23:42 | 5183197 Zirpedge
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You read like a CFR funded coagitator. He is more Akenatun than Marshall-davis. No, I find the SNL cast HSEEP crisis actors and their connections to all western mediated world events far more compelling. Obama is Richard Pryors son, hands down, look at the photos on the above links.  

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:04 | 5181479 tony wilson
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the question is did joan die because of  karma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-5Q7yuaXjM

 

or because obama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et38_Ufv-Jw

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:42 | 5181683 Moustache Rides
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Joan got boned

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 05:44 | 5182818 crazytechnician
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Fuck you Tony Wilson.

 

You are a Cunt.

 

Google: PAKIstani rape UK

The truth will out eventually.

 

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:22 | 5181595 vulcanraven
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I heard Joan Rivers took the Kickbucket Challenge

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 02:26 | 5183392 dolbiere
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god bless joan rivers, she told the truth. kind of like andrew.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:18 | 5181165 ACP
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0bombya will just give them a 15 yard penalty for unnecessary roughness.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:26 | 5181219 HobbyFarmer
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Ebola, ISIS, world economic collapse, Russia/US WWIII.

I would feel more confident if Ron Paul was leading our nation.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:31 | 5181257 Bangalore Equit...
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You will never know the true leaders of 'merica. They are that well hidden. Elected puppets are just that.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:55 | 5182273 August
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Corollary: If you can get to them, they're not the ones you're looking for.

Gotta nuke the entire site....

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:57 | 5182903 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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 Sometimes a hunter needs to be able to identify the game trail first before they can find the prey.

You can't get them or at least get the right ones if you can't find them either.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:34 | 5181624 Lore
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The masses would never support the platform of a candidate like Ron Paul. Even if he did catch some sort of grassroots wave, the big corporate vested interests would never permit meaningful reform. There are too many ways now to keep his ilk sidelined and marginalised.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 22:10 | 5183007 Rusty Shorts
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. “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”

 

- Mark Twain

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 03:39 | 5183457 tvdog
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The masses don't understand issues or care about them; they just choose based on personality and the opinions of their neighbors. They would have supported Dr. Paul if the media had given him fair coverage, and if Republican Party leaders had not cheated to prevent him from winning.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:21 | 5182833 crazytechnician
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Ron Paul is probably extremely happy to not be leading the nation. Face it - the situation is proper fucked , everybody in power knows it ,

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:18 | 5181169 Latina Lover
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Sometimes it is not a good idea to poke the  Russian Bear, lest it knock the head off your shoulders.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 06:39 | 5183562 matrix2012
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Among many reasons I like the Russian style of communication, the Russian people just talk less and cause much less noise when they're talking, yet when they're talking, they really mean it, their words mean business, and their actions are real.

Their characters call for respect and show the trustworthiness.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:39 | 5181313 BanksterSlayer
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And it gets worse. Russia left nuclear weaponry in the dust a long time ago. Big Boyz today play with SCALAR WEAPONRY. Posted four years ago by Tom Bearden:

 

The greatest danger of future terrorism lies in the realm of the aquisition of scalar electromagnetic weapons by rogue groups and terrorists. Developed in Russia since the middle of the last century, these "Tesla" weapons have unprecedented and mind boggling powers and, as stated by Krushchev in 1960, "if used unrestainably could wipe out all life on earth."

 

from:

http://www.rense.com/general58/deo.htm

We are at the point now where it becomes crucial to identify the entity who used directed energy technology to bring down the WTC on Sept. 11. Hey whaddya know? That 13th anniversary is coming right up.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:54 | 5181730 Lore
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Nice bit of abstruse quackery and catastrophe porn (typical Rense?), but AE911Truth has uncovered plenty of dirt about the WTC towers without venturing into science fiction. More imminent threats lie in plain sight, like the weaponization of food:

SECRETS OF SUGAR (Fifth Estate, 2013)

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 08:57 | 5183887 omniversling
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Downvoted you cos you make out like you know how WTC was turned to DUST. No beef about the authenticity of AE911ers, but sugar certainly didn't bring down the 1,2 or 7. Why dont you have a couple of spoonsful to help your red herring go down...

Try this 'join the dots dots' by Catherine Austin Fitts about how all the trillions from US taxpayers got to the black ops and secret space programmes. When Raygun 'cancelled' Star Wars, did you believe him? 

 

Catherine Austin Fitts - Secret Space Program & The Black Budget - Red Ice Radio -

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cKZ0HKbijQ

Breakaway Civilzation Pt. 1 with Dr. Joseph Farrell - Solari REport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7wOxw4fQI 

 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 16:24 | 5186284 Lore
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Downvoted you because you rip my food comment out of context.  The rest is acknowledged.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:52 | 5181741 Sashko89
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ever heard of haarp?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:31 | 5181633 Duffy
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Where were you guys like 9 years ago?

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/10/AR200509...

 

Ever see a suitcase nuke?

 

...

 

I bet they're bloody well iPhone sized by now. 

 

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:01 | 5182306 August
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>>>Ever see a suitcase nuke?

The "Hood" device, largest-ever thermonuclear explosion in continental USA, was 12 inches in diameter, 42 inches long.

Kinda cool?   Well, hot?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:20 | 5182149 Kirk2NCC1701
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"In my view, our primary enemy is the U.S. and the North Atlantic bloc," General Yury Yakubov 

Not so fast, Gen. Yabukov!   IBID: "In my view, our primary enemy is the Hidden Globalist Owners of the the US and NATO"

You may want to keep a few dozen of your toys for the True Globalist Owners, by making them the FIRST TARGET of any launch.  I would, if I were you -- if I still had my job after such a reckless and unproductive comment.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:53 | 5182266 pakled
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Let us just hope it is an 'unproductive' comment...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:28 | 5182399 Omen IV
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why not take 50 missiles and focus on the various members of the rothschild and rockefeller families plus Israel and there will be no one to call the audible plays in real time

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:52 | 5182941 Majestic12
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"why not take 50 missiles"

uugghhhh, because its "the various members of the rothschild and rockefeller families plus Israel"....who have "control" of the fucking things....

...I know I'm goin out on a limb here....

Please, Omen IV...no more comments....just drink until its over.....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 03:43 | 5183462 tvdog
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A bit of anthrax in the ventilation system at the next Bilderberg meeting would at least take out the middle management.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 23:46 | 5183208 buttmint
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Jim Willie's current take on Germany ditching the West and embracing the East:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgOUazLGdhc&list=UUx-BKQDYIzUveyfi9nd6ZlQ

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:42 | 5182905 FreedomGuy
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No. It's not "on". First it is a Russian general (Who?), not Comrade Putin. Second, Putin is KGB and a master chess player when it comes to disinformation, etc. While it is fun to sit here and go over all the nuke options and possibilities it is not even remotely likely.

My guess is that this is the way you throw a message and even a bluff out there. You get a general who is under orders to leak a threat to use nukes. This looks like not so subtle warning against intervention. Putin has more or less seen our bet and raised it. He may raise it enough to call our bluff and only then will things get dangerous...if we are not bluffing and he is not bluffing.

For now, I think this is just a warning and a message. In fact, it is a bluff at this point.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:56 | 5182962 Majestic12
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"No. It's not "on"."

What other choice do they have....it is clear he US is gearing up for a strike...it ain't the silly divsion of bumblefucks they're assembling....

It may not be "big-N" nuke either...most likely EMP and mini-nukes tactically "placed" ....not launched.....

Or....the "fake alien invasion" will "stop us from destroying ourselves"....which will prompt the "New World Order" world government...digital monetary system with all of us "chipped"....in order to combat the "invading" Project Blue Beam "aliens"....done.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 02:34 | 5183400 FreedomGuy
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It is not clear the U.S. is gearing up for any kind of strike. In fact, if you look at Obama he is reactive, not proactive. He doesn't even like foreign policy.

The rest of the stuff sounds like you need some meds.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 04:56 | 5187832 FreedomGuy
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I might have to apologize. I just read that Russia seems to have kidnapped an Estonia border officer after being warned about war in Estonia. That is a direct spit in your eye maneuver.

I still cannot interpret what it means but Putin is no fool. He has a plan or senses major weakness.

So, maybe it is "On".

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:20 | 5181185 JRobby
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"Hopefully someone will stop them, but I just don't see how."

When you are dealing with ego's so massive that to admit they are wrong equals death, I just don't see how either.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:48 | 5181359 Antifaschistische
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Putin knows Whitehouse (back nine) has Bluffmeister in Chief running the show.   This is Bluffmeisters repeat "I dare you to cross this line" intimidation tactic.  Probably the same thing he used on the playground...with Caucasion kids who are imtimidated by a quasi-black kid.   But, Bluffmeister is putting all light skinned (inferior melanin ratioed) humans in the same bucket.   Russians are NOT like wimpy sissified Americans.  Russian dudes actually like fighting.   So this doesn't work in Bluffmeisters favor at the poker table of life.   I only pray that Bluffmeister's tactics don't end up taking the lives of thousands of soldiers. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:41 | 5182220 Not Too Important
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We don't have a White House. It's a White Bath, members only.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:49 | 5182926 Majestic12
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"members only."

ROFLMAO!!!!  Will you be here all week????  Fuck...will "we" be here all week.....?

Still classic.....you intended the "double entendre" (Michelle tranny) right?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:29 | 5181629 Bangin7GramRocks
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Unbunch your panties you fucking drama queens!

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:58 | 5181764 WOAR
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What are you guys talking about, saying this is a crappy time to be alive? I've been waiting for this my whole life!

Let's go sunning...it's so good for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPqV0lZaSE

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:32 | 5181915 Theta_Burn
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@SMG

Joel Skousen sounds like a wacko...

Thats some farfetched shit man.

That entire pc. reads like a terminator movie script, with a complete lack of any mention of Israel except "Israel clearly being the target". apparently, even during worldwide nuclear armageddon they would be the victims, with no roll whatsoever...sure.

Now if he wrote that Russia, and China where going to preemptively nuke the entire planet because they where pushed to it, that i could almost believe..

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:05 | 5182321 August
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Joel Skousen has his expertise, but a Big Picture guy he is definitely not.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:13 | 5182107 Not Too Important
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"What a crappy time to be alive."

In roughly two years, half of us will be dead from Ebola (patented). Same with the Russians. At what point do they decide they've got nothing to lose?

Same with the Chinese.

Extinction Level Events are so complicated in the beginning, but fairly clear once underway.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:21 | 5182376 GrandPaFred
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@ SMG:

 

Stop them.... ?

 

Well, thinking one can kick the Russian Bear in the nuts and walk away scot-free is insane.

 

If lucky one only has their arms ripped off - if unlucky, probably lose their head as well.

 

Solution: "leave the f*cking bears alone - they weren't bothering us before we pissed-them-off"

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 21:45 | 5182914 Majestic12
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Enjoy, Millenials!!!!!

This is the shit us Boomers had to grow up with and "re-live" under Reagan....

Nice, huh?

How's that hairline doing now?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:13 | 5181134 Groundhog Day
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the nukular option?

wow putin must be long spx puts

until he cover and goes long...then he'll take the nukular option off the table and market will rally

 

i think i'm getting the hang of this

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:16 | 5181146 Latina Lover
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+1000

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:40 | 5181314 LoneStarHog
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Quote: You mean, HOLY SHITSKI!

 

Nope...he is Russian not Polish...HOLY SHITSKY!

 

There...fixed for you. :)

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:56 | 5181755 Seek_Truth
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Actually that's:

svyatoye der'mo
Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:32 | 5182187 Anglophobe
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i hope they only have 1 target .... DC .... then theyd be doing us a favor .... id feel bad for innocents but amerika with our kindler gentler machine gun hand blows up innocents all over the world every day .... the fallout over the atlantic would be less than what fukushima will be pumping out every year from here to infinity .... geez this is a truly bizzare time to be alive 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:07 | 5182333 August
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You have to go for the whip hands:  London and NYC. 

DC is just useful idiot territory.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 02:19 | 5183387 OldPhart
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I'd pitch in $5 to go for the trinity.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:11 | 5181112 gafgroocK
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Don't be alarmed, Obama will easily understand that this is just like calling out "Playing Thru" in Golf..

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:14 | 5182115 Not Too Important
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Like 'Fore!' play with a bear.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:17 | 5181170 froze25
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Keep in mind that, I believe it was Clinton or Bush Jr. that changed our strategy from fire on warning to fire after 1st contact.  Meaning that currently the USA is supposed to absorb the 1st strike and then launch the counter strike.  If I remember the quote from a Senior ranking (possible joint chief) military offical he said, "strike with what?".  At that point we would already of been nuked.  I don't like esculating this but the USA's policy should be changed back to fire on warning.  I don't have a bunker to hide in.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:27 | 5181239 Dr Strangemember
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Think they'll target DC as part of the preemptive strike?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:01 | 5181455 Black Forest
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No, Only their Tesla store.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:42 | 5181342 Ghordius
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do you really think you can nuke a seriously big country... and life on the planet survives? hello, it does not matter

MAD is so simple: attack, and all die

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:47 | 5181374 Rockatanski
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the subs could launch but i agree with you.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 02:24 | 5183390 OldPhart
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I'm 80 miles over the mountains from Los Angeles and nothing much else nearby of significance to blow up other than Fort Irwin, another 60 miles away and Twentynine Palms Marine Base about thirty miles away.

I, for one, wouldn't miss DC, LA, or even Lost Wages, NV... Sun glasses stay in my truck.  There might be some glare from Twentynine Palms.

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:57 | 5181436 Utah_Get_Me_2
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"strike with what?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

This and other advanced weapons the American taxpayer knows nothing about. The elites will ride out the initial exchange of ICBMs in the D.U.M.Bs then unleash the space based weapons on Moscow, Beijing, etc...

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:27 | 5181227 Dr Strangemember
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Submarine fleets have kinda made the preemptive thing meaningless...  Everyone still gets annihlated in the end.  Whatever... if it happens all I'll see a a bright flash for 1/100 of a second, then...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:34 | 5181281 williambanzai7
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Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:44 | 5181353 CheapBastard
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Barry doesn't have those sympathetic characters like Kolon Powell or Kondee Lice lie thru their teeth to con the public.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:44 | 5181694 Calmyourself
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True dat, Susan Rice and ol' horseface will have to suffice this time around..  Poor Barry, lucky for him most of America are stupid World News Tonight believing sheep.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:50 | 5182484 Atomizer
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Condoleezza Rice is a mexican food dish Obama is tracking down find his new child labor voting constituents. Free phone, and ACA medical care. You will receive amnesty if you vote Democrat in our next election.

Michelle is happily digging up voters at their grave sites to populate DNA Information in dead voting contribution. 

Michelle and I endorse Hillary 2016..



Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:22 | 5182381 Atomizer
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Clown bombs. Saving the petrodollar under the disquise of humanitarian efforts. 

I don't make up the rules, just see through the propaganda. They won't survive the next purging. Count on that. 

Nice capture of a dead person who cannot talk. If this happens, we need to penetrate the next level of onion. Seriously, not a joke.

Keep up the good work. 

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 22:55 | 5183091 ILLILLILLI
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Add some lizard eyes...

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:45 | 5181360 RockRiver
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It's comforting to know that we have such a strong President at the helm...

 

 

/sarc/

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:17 | 5181858 Canadian Dirtlump
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The satanic buttplugs in charge of the US nuclear arsenal have already penned their preemptive strike doctrine. I'm pleased Russia has responded in kind on one level. Afterall , the West will make war when the dollar fails if not before.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 17:39 | 5181962 Dugald
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Buy more Gaz or we nuke you!!!

 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:09 | 5182339 Not Too Important
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Where the fuck is Hillary? The 'preordained' next President Of The United States, and not a fuckin' word.

Where's her husband? He's always got shit to say. Hell, he went to school in Moscow. He must have something 'insightful' to say.

Trying to avoid the shit sticking to their clothes. Far too fucking late for that.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 08:02 | 5183645 tvdog
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"It is becoming excruciatingly clear that the Global Axis of Fascism is the US, UK, and its leash holder in the SouthEast Mediterranean."

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 00:06 | 5183250 TheReplacement
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They aren't exactly ICBMs unless continents are 500km apart, or is it 500miles.  Either way, these are not a huge deal and a reasonable reaction.  Have they fired them yet?  No.  Stop sweating it.  Putin is tough but not suicidal.  He'll make a stand and take what can be taken but his real offensive weapon is fuel. 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 00:20 | 5183273 WhackoWarner
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Come on.  Wake up and at least think.  I do not care who you find to be "evil" here.  But at least look at who the frig is lying to you between your Kardashian/Bachelor shows and worship of rapper idiots.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-lies-from-nato-russias-aggression-against-ukraine-threatens-our-freedom-security-and-prosperity-anders-fogh-rasmussen/5399496

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 00:57 | 5183320 Ondoron
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As a European it is so good to know, that the next war in Europe, for which the US-necons work so hard to rescue the US$, not only European and Russian cities will burn, but US-cities as well! Tell that Obamao and stop this desatrous policy!!!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 08:28 | 5183707 TheAntiGov
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Our idiots in Washington, announced not to recently, about our change in our strategic policy. From taking the first hit, then retaliation, to first strike if we feel an emanate threat from China or Russia. Now we have started a new arms race for hypersonic boost glide weapons systems. This new weapon leaves no detectable signature, horizontal trajectory, no arc reentry from space, that we have counter measures for and travels 5 times the speed of sound. China had 1 successful launch and the last one blew up. We’ve had 2 failed attempts. So what happens when the first country acquires it, will they use it like we did on Japan?

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:09 | 5181104 debtor of last ...
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Cold war is back. I don't think Russia would 'announce' a preemptive nuclear strike....

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:12 | 5181109 Latina Lover
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Time to add SPF10,000 and Welders Googles/Glasses to my bug out bag.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:17 | 5181147 SHEEPFUKKER
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This cold war 2.0 sure seems like it's getting hot. 

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:26 | 5181231 PacOps
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That one way thingy to Mars is sounding better and better.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 15:54 | 5181415 general ambivalent
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Until you realise your podmate is a LARPer named HAL.

The cannibal revolution will not be televised, it will only be available as a Pay-Per-View subscription on Netflix.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:57 | 5181758 CheapBastard
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My neighbor claims he used his inheritance buying several acres on the moon. I didn't know you could do that ... unless he ran into a RE/NAR scammer of super proportions. Perosnally, if things go Nukular I am not sure there's any place to hide since only Roaches and Keith Richards will prob survive (and maybe that Babe from Baywatch who is filled with plastic nowadays).

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:43 | 5182232 Not Too Important
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Ozzie stands a good chance.

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 19:51 | 5182488 GrandPaFred
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Not Too Important:

 

Nancy Polisi will still be around - nothing to date seems capable of getting rid of her!

Thu, 09/04/2014 - 18:06 | 5181899 Lea
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Thu, 09/04/2014 - 16:28 | 5181620 Jorgen
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SPF is bad for your health and may result in a costly and prolonged cancer treatment. Nukes will kill you faster, depending on your distance from the epicenter.

Nearly all conventional sunscreen products contain cancer-causing chemicals

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