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Russian General Demands Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO
While NATO is contemplating its existential purpose in a world where the Cold War has suddenly come back with a vengeance, and the military alliance has found itself woefully unprepared to deal with a Russia which no longer accepts the supremacy of the west (appropriately enough NATO is doing this on a golf course) Russia is also strategizing, only instead of issuing "sharply-worded catchphrases" and hashtags, a Russian general has called for Russia to revamp its military doctrine, last updated in 2010, to clearly identify the U.S. and its NATO allies as Moscow's enemy number one. That in itself is not disturbing: we reported as much yesterday and is merely more rhetorical posturing. Where things, however, get very problematic is that the general demands that Russia spell out the conditions under which the country would launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the 28-member military alliance.
Moscow Times reports that Russia's military doctrine, a strategy document through which the government interprets military threats and crafts possible responses, is being revised in light of threats connected to the Arab Spring, the Syrian civil war and the conflict in Ukraine, the deputy chief of the Kremlin's security council told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.
That however is the soundbite for politically correct media purposes. Because within the Defense Ministry there are voices calling for different priorities.
"First and foremost, the likely enemy of Russia should be clearly identified in this strategic document, something absent from the 2010 military doctrine. In my view, our primary enemy is the U.S. and the North Atlantic bloc," General Yury Yakubov, a senior Defense Ministry official, was quoted as saying by Interfax.
If this sounds like a statement taken right out of the (first) Cold War, one involving the whole nuclear arms race, is because it is. The 2010 doctrine defines NATO expansion as a threat to Russian national security and reaffirms its right to use nuclear weapons in a defensive posture, but stops far short of declaring NATO as Moscow's primary adversary and laying preemptive nuclear strike scenarios on the table, a posture unmistakably reminiscent of the Cold War.
At the basis of this dramatic escalation is none other than Russia's stated response to what it perceives as a clear expansionary NATO threat.
Yakubov said the information war being waged over the crisis in Ukraine — where the West accuses Russia of arming separatists fighting the government in Kiev — and NATO's announcement that it would establish a permanent military presence in Eastern Europe have validated earlier fears that the alliance's claims of non-aggression toward Russia were insincere.
And the punchline: the general added that special attention should be paid to integrating the functions of the newly created Air and Space Defense Forces with Russia's land, sea and air based nuclear forces. "In addition, it is necessary to hash out the conditions under which Russia could carry out a preemptive strike with the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces," he said.
One can be certain that this is precisely what Russia will do.
So what happens next?
Recall what former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said in November 2008 in his first presidential address to the Russian people: "Russia will deploy Iskander missile systems in its enclave in Kaliningrad to neutralize, if necessary, the anti-ballistic missile system in Europe." An anti-ballistic missle system also known as NATO.
Which it did less than a year ago, long before the Ukraine civil war was headline news every day. This is what happened the last time Russia flexed its nuclear deterrence muscles, in November of 2013.
Russia has stationed missiles with a range of about 500 kilometers in its Kaliningrad enclave and along its border with the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Germany’s Bild-Zeitung reports, citing defense officials it didn’t identify. Satellite images show a “double-digit” amount of mobile units identified as SS-26 Stone in NATO code. Missiles were stationed within the past 12 months. SS-26 can carry conventional as well as nuclear warheads.
This is merely Russia being true to its warning word. From April 2012:
Moscow reiterated on Tuesday it may deploy Iskander theater ballistic missiles in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad that will be capable of effectively engaging elements of the U.S. missile defense system in Poland.
NATO members agreed to create a missile shield over Europe to protect it against ballistic missiles launched by so-called rogue states, for example Iran and North Korea, at a summit in Lisbon, Portugal, in 2010.
The missile defense system in Poland does not jeopardize Russia’s nuclear forces, Army General Nikolai Makarov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said.
“However, if it is modernized…it could affect our nuclear capability and in that case a political decision may be made to deploy Iskander systems in the Kaliningrad region,” he said in an interview with RT television.
“But that will be a political decision,” he stressed. “So far there is no such need.”
A little over two years later, there is a need.
Which means forget "little green men" in Ukraine. Think massive Russian Iskander ICBM systems planted on the border with Poland, Ukraine, the Baltics and all across Russia Western border, and the furious screamfest this would waterfall into.
We can't wait to see how algos will spin such pre-emptive steps to a very mushroom cloudy World War III...
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Perceptive. Politicians distract us with fearmongering rhetoric, while the most immediate threats to our health and well-being lie in plain sight.
Where's my lead jock strap when I need it?
PreEMPtive.
That is the DEFAULT 1st explosion by any side, before any other nukes are set off. A "gimme".
You have only MINUTES before the real ones go off. Large metro areas will be the 1st to 'go', and turn PAZ (Post-Apocalyptic Zombie).
We are playing poker now; its back to the soviet drawing board if this is true.
Who is this general?
Dr Strangelove, calling dr...Kildare!
@ falak pema:
I'm taking bets on the upcoming fight - "Putin v/s Colonel O'Klink"
Way to go Obama you prize Prick
Nobel prize prick. Nobel, afterall, did invent dy-no-might!
"spell out the conditions under which the country would launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the 28-member military alliance."
William.S. Burroughs:
At any given time recording devices fix the nature of absolute need and dictate the use of total weapons--Like this: Take two opposed pressure groups--Record the most violent and threatening statements of group one with regard to group two and play back to group two--Record the answer and take to back to group one--Back and forth between opposed pressure groups--This process is known as "feed back"--You can see it operating in any bar room quarrel--In any quarrel for that matter--Manipulated on a global scale feeds back nuclear war and nova--These conflicts are deliberately created and aggravated by nova criminals--
Nova Express 1964
Funny, downvoting Burroughs. That's like slamming the door in the face of the man who has come knocking to explain that there are flames leaping from the roof of your house.
In other words, for every action, there is a reaction.
IOW, only war hawks and neurotics get to "communicate" (fire verbal salvos), while everyone else sits back. Great!
https://twitter.com/meikar/status/507554344397721600/photo/1
https://twitter.com/OTregub/status/507575324662435840/photo/1
https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/507539626337513472/photo/1
https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/507539347080769536/photo/1
From previous days:
https://twitter.com/RusiaSeMueve/status/505767010769178624/photo/1
https://twitter.com/pravolivo/status/505735153306841088/photo/1
https://twitter.com/RyskeldiSatke/status/505737038721593344/photo/1
https://twitter.com/obk/status/505717805321576448/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Kateryna_Kruk/status/505733273243615232/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Sobiratel_net/status/505724159704715265/photo/1
https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/505016236825407489/photo/1
https://twitter.com/RusiaSeMueve/status/505717434616397825/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Realuran/status/505722028490772480/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Grishakapustin/status/505065756279996417/photo/1
https://twitter.com/banderivet/status/505019873660272640/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/505710334439464960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/paulrbrennan/status/505671631810072576/photo/1
There is absolutely no shelling from Ukrainian army for months in Mariupol, now lets wait till that Putlers right hand RT comes up with a story that Ukrainian army is shelling homes right as Putlers army is marching into a city that does not want them. Majority is AGAINST Russian army/Russian citizens such as Strelkov or other DNR terrorists in Mariupol, just read their forums(not troll accounts also, read what people who are active for years are saying) and news sites. You cant get more legit than what LOCAL people who live in the city are saying and who they are supporting?
Some of you are really thick tho, will only believe it when Putler himself admits that he is using army, Mariupol is what he wants in order to establish land corridor to Crimea and he could care less if the people in Mariupol wants it or not.
Heil, mein Führer Putler! Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
PS...for all that USD collapse talk lately here, its never been cheaper for you all to buy RUB than it is now, after all Putler is so awesome, all sanctions will backfire on the west and USD sux(will collapse any day according to some people on here) right? Put your money where your mouth is!
Inb4 Central bank manipulation/rigged markets/aliens.
RisingSun,
you'd have better luck conviencing us with youtube videos.
Twitter is irrelevent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdo_asFgUlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Wz622MkrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZFz_QXyNCI
For those that dont know, that "human shield" where people hold hands for killometres is what we did in Baltics to protest non-violently against Russians in 1990s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way
In a town with the population at 480K you'd think the support would be more than a few thousand.
Considering the Ukraine Goverment prosecutes, tortues, and intimitates Russian supporters it's not surprising there was such a small turnout in a Ukraine government controlled city.
Once "Russia" rolls through, then we'll see the masses gather.
Most people are scared to come out imho, they dont want to risk to be on the wrong side of the when things settle, if DNR does win and take over Mariupol, what do you think will happen to those who supported United Ukraine? Fact is, no one died there from shelling or fighting while Ukrainian army is controlling the city, things are back to "normal" more or less.
And yet in those pictures with the 'POW' I find it strange they aren't restrained and better yet they have their faces covered.
Those were more than 20 men up there yet Ukriane has only claimed just recently to have captured 10 Russian soilders.
All you're doing is speculating with your 'honest opinion' if anything those people that gathered are merely just friends, famlies, and loved ones of the soilders fighting for Ukriane.
A few thousand doesn't make a majority, just like the majority that won the democratically elected president of Ukriane (Mr Yanukovych) that was overthrown by CIA backed protects.
90s Child, I can recommend this Russian "FB" http://vk.com/mariupol0629 page, it is for the largest news agency in Mariupol(http://www.0629.com.ua/), real people there. It is Russian FB "VK" + Russian language news site so the demo is strongly/exclusivly Russians, you can see what they are saying and who they support, there will be both pro-Russian and Pro-Ukrainian supporters, most people there want PEACE and not another war, which is another reason why they want United Ukraine.
Yeah went to that page But what they are reporting doesn't state both sides.
That would be like me going to Foxnews to get 'honest' feedback on how well the democrates are doing.
Nothing I've seen there shows a honest, majority support to Ukriane considering it's the 'largest news agency'
Did you go to the VKontakte page? Page got 50k+ followers. You will not find a website with more Mariupole locals in one place online. Ignore the news site if you want, just read what real people who have children going to school, who have to go to work are thinking about whats going on.
Yeah followers means nothing to me, my local news site has more daily visits then is in the population of the city. www.ksl.com how's that?
You may not be able to answer it but I can.
I read the site, all I saw was youthful sheeple. Looked like the same type of sheeple that supported the coup, the same type of sheeple that supported Obama, both times. They stated their opinion, yet with the propaganda that's been going on in all fronts you expect them to be a valid source of facts?
Read their comments, people can be very opioninated when they have only been fed one side of the situation.
Again, that 50k followers only makes up a 20% majority.
So the only non-Sheeples are the ones that support DNR or Putin? If you got a better site with more locals in Mariupol(social site, with real people) then im all ears. 500k people, probably 30% are older generation that dont use internet as much,so 50k is pretty large demo sample imo, remember we got internet here in Eastern Europe much later than you guys in the West. I like to hear from locals, who actually LIVED under DNR!!!!!!! They dont want to go back, that should tell you something?
'lived under DNR'
Yeah... so that explains the support for Ukriane in Mariupol, those clearly are the people who weren't the 'majority' leaving Donestk because they were outnumbered.
With the way social media has become, they clearly are sheeple. People who can't form a objective opinion are sheeple. When they rely on what their government tells them rather then have a independent view on situations and not be persuaded, Sheeple.
@ RisingSun:
Flight MH-17 now boarding - all who trust Kiev may sit in First Class...
Give him time, sheeple eventually stray from the herd.
Yeah, on that page i still see way more anti ukie posts.
on other note even the Ruslana, she was active prostestor on maidan, after visiting Donetsk saying to stop the war
Not sure what you are reading, can you even read Russian? I am reading mostly comments that people want to be left alone and not another DNR war in their city. Are you ignoring the posts about United Ukraine meeting, Army training in the city etc? They are definitely not anti-ukie.
You don't have to read Russian to see what they are saying, it's called Translation. Considering the majority of them are posting in Russian, shows a lot bout their native language and what they choose to read / write with as well.
Russian is the majority language in Mariupol 90% of people speak it, language however does not equal support for DNR or Russia. There are many countries out there that speak in English, do they all support England? No.
Btw Andy, about that Ruslana clip, I saw it also, I agree with her. Can you tell me how exactly, DNR + (possiblly) Russian military going to Mariupol(city that is living in peace more or less now) is going to help with peace talks?
Should have thought about that in June, I guess.
Ukraine wouldn't be talking peace if they were winning.
Don't use speaking Russian as an indicator of opinion in the Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine. Most Ukrainians are bilingual and use Russian as their primary language to communicate amongst each other. Part of the split was caused because Kiev there outlawed Russian for things like government documents. They may speak Ukrainian in their homes and countryside but they don't speak Ukrainian. It is like natives in Alaska that speak English and hardly speak or understand their native language any longer.
of course i can read russian, and there a lot of anti ukie comments. every post that 0629 makes there huge amount of people that comment absolutely against
oh yeah we all saw when Mariupol protested without weapons and UA army came and shot few protestors and then shelled miltita office, because they didnt want to do anything with Nazis in Kiev
Read up on "Titushki" aka those protesters on 9th May that you are talking about, that said there are locals also who support Russia. What exactly should they do with Milita Office? Send them flowers? Look at the link above, I gave Vkontakte(Russian FB) link for the largest news agency 0629 in Mariupol 50k+ followers and legit people, see what they are talking about.
There were few thousands Titushki? Open your eyes
I didnt say that they were all Titushki, there were locals also. Just check the Vkontakte page and you will see what real people are saying about whats going on currently,parents who have children going to school, who have to go to work tomorrow etc...all these meetings(9th May provocated by titushki and these latest ones according to some on ZH are "shipped" in from Lyvov) can be staged, on that page is where people discuss local news, with real accounts, not just random internet names in internet comments.
Yeah, on that page i still see way more anti ukie posts.
on other note even the Ruslana, she was active prostestor on maidan, after visiting Donetsk saying to stop the war
so the truth is between western msm and russia's media. basiclly boots the the ground by both sides with funding supporting both sides.
what side you'd take - each 2 their own
The Putin as Hitler meme is backwards.
The Nazi's are in Kiev, and Washington D.C.
You can be pretty sure that RT and other Putlers "news agencies" will be all over Mariupol in the next few days, saying Ukrainian army is shelling buildings. I guess they suddenly started to shell those buildings, just as DNR/Russian army is attacking Mariupol.
Those Maidan folks wrapped in their blue and yellow seem to have no idea they are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
A lot of those Maidan folks are fcking fighting this war. And they were introduced to fire 11 months ago so i think they will be ok. On the other hand you, you my friend have no fcking brains like from the wizard of oz. So you might as well go strolling down that yellow brick road.
Oh, you are psychic now too?
http://glory-ukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/putler.jpg
This one is better, and much more accurate:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3899/15128936352_8d065cd805_b.jpg
For once i see a normal comment in here. It seems like most of people here are just jumping from joy when they hear that insane putin will use nuclear strikes. Tafuq...
There are less and less objective people left here. It seems Obama himself fucked a lot of you in the ass and you are feeling upset about it. Pack your shit and move to russia if its paradise.
Even putin's, lavron's and most of the oligarch families are in europe. Why? Because nobody will come at your damn doorstep in the middle of the night and put in you in shit hole.
Yes, you seem objective with your charactarization of Putin as "insane". His actions were and have been predictable. The US and West orchestrated and supported the overthrow of a strategic country on his boarder. Right or wrong, it's pretty obvious what he would do.
Did they orchestrated? Isn't there anymore situations where protests gets out of hand? Or everything is controled by a SUPERMIND. The same one which orchestrated 9/11 etc etc etc.
Some people give way too much creadit for others. It seems you haven't ever participated in an event where emotions take the upper hand. oh wait.... aren't we all participating in a FCKING MARKETS where we witness this shit every day...
Have you listened to the Victoria Nuland phone call? You know, the former advisor to Dick Cheney and wife of Robert Kagan?
uuuu... nice comeback :D that shit happens everyday in politics. They push and shove stuff around. Have you ever listened to heated argument before? Or nobody fights around you? Everybody is one happy fcking family singing kumbaya. I could bring thousands of records about russia and what? Anything better?
More objective commentary for you. I can tell you're not emotional about this subject at all.
That phone call basically proves the US's involvement in the coup. You can discount it all you want, but it does. Also, it wasn't heated at all, IMO. It was a tactical conversation on how to assist the overthrow. Maybe you listened to something different or perhaps only read the articles about it.
Absolutely ;) Cling to that tape. Might as well build a shrine for it in russia. While you're out there, please don't come back :)
Right, and the US isn't known for assisting in the overthrow of governments. Fuck you, you US government shill warmonger. I don't give a fuck about Russia or Ukrainians. That's the difference between me and you and why I can actually process information.
thats exactly right. And i care for russians and Ukrainians. Because the next front will be at my doorstep. So you can tell yourself all kinds of bullshit as long as it makes you feel distant and not involved. And while we're on that subject. If you dont care for those countries, what the fuck are you doing here? :)) Why are you putting effort in pushing keyboard? Why are you reading about them? Go watch TV, masturbate and go to sleep.
I care about people in general, not countries. And you're not worth any more than anyone else in the world because you live in Europe. I'll take care of my own country and you can take care of yours. Oh, that's right, you can't without the US. In any case, I'll campaign hard as fuck to not send one goddamned American to help you. You wanted to fuck with Russia, have fucking fun.
Good luck with your campaign ;)
Am bored and tired of reading your crap tint foil man :)
You have no information or point, so I can understand your boredom.
Victoria Nuland? You mean Victoria Nudelman, right?
U.S. paid Maidan protesters $150/day, a month's salary to a Ukie. Bonuses included $50 for lobbing Molotovs and $1000 for gunfire.
And as father in law always says, if you want the real reasons, follow the money. It's not about Ukraine at all, it's about the new financial system that will soon challenge the dollar. The U.S. criminals in charge will do ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING, to keep the dollar the reserve currency. This is simply another excuse to derail and disrupt this changeover. After all, our elite 1% are making themselves wealthy beyond belief with an ordinary printing press. That don't want ANYONE screwing that up. Period.
It's stupid when you think about it. The system that these "Money Masters" defend is essentially nothing, an abstraction, a bit of trickery that enables a small group to manipulate a larger one, and for THAT they're fully prepared to commit your life and the life of everyone around you? Who is the enemy again?
The whole world is going insane. Russia and the US are no exceptions to this.
"The whole world is going insane. Russia and the US are no exceptions to this."
Russia is perfectly sane, just fed up with being bullied. You'd react precisely the same.
Obama fucked the U.S. in the ass, not just a few.
I don't think it is so much Putin lovers out there, but Putin is able to show how incompetent Obama is, because he is not bound by U.S. media filtering his actions to make him look good. Putin does check Obama almost on a daily basis.
Not all are Putin lovers here, but there are a few.
Sorry, Obama doesn't need any help from Putin to show his incompetence.
He was projecting incompetence from day one.
Haven't you got a torchight rally to attend somewhere.
You Lats just do not know when to keep your mouth shut.
Russia could invade you and NATO WILL NOT do anything to save your sorry asses.
Better to be quiet and let everybody think you a fool, than speak and remove all
doubt.
If Russia invaded and got rid of the dual citizen oligarchs - they would do the Ukie people a big favor. Sadly the Ukie people are brainwashed by Zio-TV like Americans.
You are poor silly ukie.
And Moscow times is a atlanticist propaganda outlet. There are more than too much of west dupes in russian media. I call this bullshit, only for ZATO meeting purpose.
You will see the reactions.
"And Moscow times is a atlanticist propaganda outlet. There are more than too much of west dupes in russian media. I call this bullshit, only for ZATO meeting purpose."
It's so TRUE! If one ever reads "THE MOSCOW TIMES" one will soon realize that this media does not say anything postive on Putin, it carries a constant anti-Putin tag in its news ...it's a perpetrator media!
Dear Rising Sun:
The US should have thought of all this when it destabilized Ukraine last winter. If we had allowed the democractic process to proceed, we would now be in the midst of a presidential election campaign (with the vote to take place in February 2015), Crimea would still be part of Ukraine, and there would be no war in Eastern Ukraine.
You liken Putin to Hitler, but the aggressor here is the US. Putin is winning the world's admiration (and massive internal support) for his calm, prudent and effective response to Washington's aggression and that of its Yatzi-Nazi puppet regime.
yeah... when you post proves of that i might believe you. Until then, please go back to writing stories how aliens abducted you. Mkey?
Except the evidence that the US was meddling in Ukraine exists. Listen to the entire 4 1/2 minute "Fuck The EU" call. Putin could be another Stalin, and that still would not excuse our behavior. I don't like the saber rattling about first nuclear strikes at all, but for fucks sake, this isn't a black and white situation.
Jesus fucking Christ, how can you be this stupid?
Damn, which PsyIntel agency do you work for...or are you just ignorant?
This is Zero Hedge, you won't sell ideology here...it just won't fly.
Don't bother replying...I already feel like I'm pulling you out of the outhouse.
Better attend those pro-Ukie protests in Mariupol if you know what's good for you. (And better have a St. George ribbon for after the NAF arrives.)
If Russia were setting up in Mexico, what would be your response????
the united states is bring about these responses by continuous destruction of the u.s. currency to fund massive military bases around the world.
once you begin full scale escalation and the other side talks about pre-emptive ation , it becomes difficult for anyone to back down without looking weak.
the u.s. is weakening. russia and china are strengthening . this is a dangerous recipe which profiteers can make money off of by instigating chaos domestically. those profiteers are your defense industrial complex and prison domestic terrorism complex that employs government 'workers' who are loyal to the cause of harvesting tax dollars.
i'm not supporting russia here, but the only path towards de-escalation for PEASANTS (THE 99% INCLUDING UPPER MIDDLE CLASS) --------Is to stop paying your taxes and buy gold . this is tricky though. you take risks doing this.
protesting and sabotage are not entirely useless, but not entirely useful. putting yourself in front of the train is not so effective as much as stopping to support it, and getting others to stop.
the train wil stop, one way or another .and it will steamroll many human beings on the way there.
"protesting and sabotage are not entirely useless, but not entirely useful. putting yourself in front of the train is not so effective as much as stopping to support it, and getting others to stop.
the train wil stop, one way or another .and it will steamroll many human beings on the way there. "
+1,000
I totally agree. I do not see the Russians exanding the Warsaw Pact into Latin America and if they did the U.S. would react exactly the same way Russia is reacting to N.A.T.O.'s expansion towards Russia's borders.
The response was October 14–28, 1962.
Don't play chicken with a nuclear power.
Amen to that.
Don't get involved in European wars.
Might have to watch Fail Safe again.
Wish we had a president like Henry Fonda, even if he did nuke NYC
Fail-Safe (film)Nah, stick on Threads for a giggle!
Edit: My bad, McMolotov got there before me.
It's the bleakest film EVER, seriously EVER. Only for those with a strong constitution. Let's hope we never go there.
This is what the likes of fucktards like McCain DO NOT GET. They wank madly over their neocon blowhard rhetoric. Totally missing the fact that their bullshit ends with us all getting fried alive or for those 'lucky' enough to live through it a fuckin' depressing future for the next 20+ years.
Stay on the fuckin' golf course Barry.
"This is what the likes of fucktards like McCain DO NOT GET. They wank madly over their neocon blowhard rhetoric. Totally missing the fact that their bullshit ends with us all getting fried alive."
Yes, and that's why the Russians are talking about their first strike: to remind the forgetful, wanking, muscle-flexing braggart neocons that nukes fly both ways.
The Samson option.
was he pounding his shoe on the table when he said it?
BOOM! SKI!
BTFPNSDAN, bitchez.
I like how these guys think. Genghis Khan would be proud and that's a compliment in my book.
We keep saying around here on ZH "just let it all burn". Someone in Russia has been listening, because they are thinking seriously about what parts ought to actually burn first.
White Russian Knight to take Black's King in three more moves. To you, Obama. I respectfully suggest you pull your head out of your ass and think well before your next move, Mighty Mouse.
Obama has a tee time with Reggie the ball washer
Let's not kid ourselves here, this isn't a man vs. man confrontation, it's TPTB behind them that are dictating things.
Stop...poking...the...Bear.
Nato and the US are flat broke....you can take out the US with 3 or 4 high altitude bursts.
yeah and russia is fcking richer than ever :D jesus fck :D
Russia exports 5 million barrels of crude oil per day. That may not seem like a big deal, but it gives Russa a lot of leverage over the USD.
When you grow up one day, you will come to understand what debt is and how it affects things.
One day.
Correction - you can take out the CIVILIAN infrastructure - the military stuff is all "hardened".
And in any case - if EITHER side launches the big stuff, or a lot of the little stuff, the world is toast as the radiation levels the world over will eliminate above ground and water life for about 30 - 40,000 years. Do you think that those "dents" in the earth and the 30,000 year old cave paintings without other evidence of a civilization are just accidents?
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE!!! (And "modern man" didn't learn squat from the mistakes probably made by Neanderthals!) We're just Moties without a museum.
Double correction - you can cause all civilian infrastructure to hard reset, but it all comes back on in a few minutes to a few days to reset the big transformers. EMP is more syfy than reality. It would be like hitting a breaker.
Bullish.
This is definitely NOT bullish.
Could be very bullish. That is how fucked up things are.
He's ticked off because he is going to be locked out of the swift system and that is the end of Russia. He needs to come to the table and give Dollar, Inc their pound of flesh. He sould have left syria alone. This is where this all started.
Finished off Iran in no time.
Oh wait...
exactly. Syria, Snowden, Ukraine... Putin wanted the bull and he got the horns. Proceed with the downvotes, comrades.
The evidence of Russia’s decline is pervasive. The rise in oil prices at the beginning of the century gave the economy an artificial boost, leading Goldman Sachs to include it among the world’s major emerging markets (one of the ‘Brics’, along with Brazil, India, China and South Africa). Today, however, that growth has vanished. Russia’s gross domestic product (GDP) is about one-seventh the size of America’s, and its per capita income (in purchasing-power-parity terms) of $18,000 (Dh66,204) is roughly one-third that of the US.
Oil and gas account for two-thirds of Russian exports, half of state revenues and 20 per cent of GDP, whereas high-tech exports represent only 7 per cent of its manufactured exports (compared to 28 per cent for the US). Resources are allocated inefficiently across the economy, with a corrupt institutional and legal structure that impedes private investment. Despite the attractiveness of traditional Russian culture and Putin’s calls to boost Russian soft power, his bullying behaviour has sown mistrust. Few foreigners watch Russian films and no Russian university was ranked in the global top 100 last year.
http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/western-strategy-for-a-declining...
hmmm so few foreigner watch russian films????
so what
I actually do watch a lot of russian films...
I recommend watching assasin of the Tsar
http://youtu.be/_Iz5ST2BYy8
The Island (tormented russian orthodox monk)
http://youtu.be/ms4TXwIDutM
Ward no 6
http://youtu.be/wMKRFxETlY0
???? (brother) some great russian music in this film...http://youtu.be/iw6cDYEd8Dw
I think they are all awesome...
The Russian films I watch are all on spankwire.
Russia has manufactured exports.
We have manufactured inflation and government lies.
Russia wins already.
'When (two) elephants fight it is the grass that suffers.'
Yeah, and nobody likes bad grass, man. Especially Obama.
Long on Prayer and Ground Zero.
+1 for PCR?
The great thing about Paul is that he 'gets' your irony.
BTFNUKE
Help, I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
Place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?
looks like NATO is not the only one who can rattle the saber
Who let the dogs out....who...who....nice job Obama and the Posers That Be....
To be clear I don't blame Russia one bit....we started it
last night I had a wierd nightmare that I was in a skyscraper and a nuke went off in the distance... this story makes me a little more nervous...
Hope you didn't look at the pretty bright flash...
(double post)
I think my political docterine would be something along the lines of: "Don't play chicken with a Russian."
So the Russians said, don't expand NATO to our boarders, then they said, hey really, don't expand NATO to our boarders. Then after continued western intervention and under-handed espionage to interfere with normal democratic elections in Ukraine (can one make this shit up?!?!), and continued transparent sh1t-spin-doctoring, the western blocks are faced with an angry bear....
/golfcap for western policy makers... talk about those who need to be the first up against the wall....
Russia lost 21 million men, women, and children fighting the Nazi's in WWII, and the West thinks a neo-Nazi putsch 535 miles from Moscow is going to go well?
Yes...first up against the wall for the Western policy makers who have not read their history books.
Wonder who was the BEST Hollywood US President in movieland? Zero rates a zero
Henry Fonda in Fail-Safe (film)
Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact
or Bill Pullman as president in Independence Day
22 of Hollywood's Best Presidents in Movies and TVBarack Obama 'Dreams of My Fatherland' Winner, Nobel Academy Award, Best Fictional Character.
Add Danny Glover as POTUS in 2012.
Plus Danny can kick Predator ass (Predator 2). ;-)
Who needs to wait for Fallout 4?
Long bottlecaps, bitchez.
First I want more ammo for my alien blaster in Fallout III
Hey, what's realy real here?
SeaHawks VS Packers
On today....
where's the beer.....
We can nuke whomever tomorrow.
/s
Within 15 minute after the Russian nuclear missle launch is shot down by Patriot missle batteries, the UK Nuclear subs turn Russia into a glass parking lot...
Patriot..........they still make those?
Maybe. But they were not designed to shoot down intercontinental ballistic missles.
skuds?
IIRC they weren't very successful at taking scuds out either.
Grab a pair of scissors, hide under the kitchen table and pray to your God that first missile launch never happens.
The Russians know everything they need to know to make sure that we are not walking away from any such engagements without smoldering holes in everyone's underwear. Our dumb government has made the same mistake of thinking they can win a nuclear was against Russia. I can't think of anything further from the reality of the situation. Prepare your basement, and collect some very long sticks so you can toast your marshmallows outside your basement windows.
Ranch style home, no basement. I'll be busting out the visqueen and duct tape.
cockroach
Moscow Times is American owned, so it's probably yet another lie like it's been with the MSM story of "Soldiers' mothers." Just look at who is financing that association:
http://www.ned.org/publications/annual-reports/2011-annual-report/eurasia/russia
From the NED 2011 report, grabbed at random:
Kostroma Regional Public Organization "Soldiers' Mothers Committee"
$26,201
Pskov Regional Public Organization "Council of Soldiers' Mothers"
$25,395
St. Petersburg Regional Public Human Rights Organization "Soldiers' Mothers of St. Petersburg"
$84,966
Anything that comes from Western oligarchs' financed source is not to be trusted at all. Moscow News is another such source.
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The Ukraine crisis and all the sanction wars should be treated as an emergency situation threatening the Russian interests even its very existence, emergency situation takes emergency measure incl. shutting down all the questionable collaborator's activities incl. the perpetrator media!
Russia and Algeria signed on Wednesday, September 3, in Algiers, a new agreement on cooperation in the field of civil nuclear engineering. The partnership is intended to promote research and nuclear operations in Algeria, which could lead in the medium term to the construction of the first nuclear power plant in Algeria.
The Algerians have for quite some time expressed the desire to develop their nuclear capabilities and their ambitions seem to be confirmed with the signing of this new collaboration with Russia. The agreement as stated by the Algerian Energy Minister, Yousef Yousfi, should address both “the production of electricity from nuclear energy and the use of this energy for peaceful purposes, including medicine, agriculture and water resources”.
Cooperation under this Agreement will cover research and development in the field of nuclear engineering and technology, construction, operation and maintenance of nuclear reactors for electricity generation and desalination of seawater, and also the joint exploration and exploitation of uranium deposits in Algeria.
The Algerian Minister of Energy had previously announced the government’s intention to build the first nuclear power plant in the country by 2025 to cope with high electricity demand and offset higher costs of the energy production program and the development of renewable energy.
Algeria has reserves of uranium on its territory of around 29,000 tons, an amount sufficient to supply two nuclear power plants with a capacity of 1000 MW over a period of 60 years.
http://www.cubiclane.com/2014/09/04/russia-and-algeria-sign-nuclear-deal...
I could "imagine" that with any Agreement in "civil nuclear engineering" that Russia has with any countries, that it could place a small team of its experts to maintain and operate a "tactical nuclear unit". IOW... tactical nukes parked/hidden with the civil units.
By the way, NATO can say the same shit. And what then? :D
Stupid Ukraine for trusting russia. They should have left their nukes. Putin would have never dared to raise his arm against Ukraine then. A lesson for future - never trust fcking russian
and yet Wester Ukraine is running into the arms of the IMF and Western corruption...
Actually, never trust the Yids, with Jews you lose.