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Russia Blasts NATO's "Pre-Emptive Deployment" Plan For Undermining The Peace Process

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As if like clockwork, on the heels of news from Russia of plans to shift their military doctrine towards pre-emptive reactions (and potential nuclear strikes), the NATO Summit has come out swinging with it's own plan change:

  • *GEN. BRADSHAW, NATO’S DEPUTY SUPREME COMMANDER: NATO REACTION FORCE COULD BE DEPLOYED PREEMPTIVELY

Russia's response - "not surprised" NATO is trying to dominate Europe, adding that "NATO plans undermine the Ukraine peace process."

As Bloomberg reports,

U.K. General Adrian Bradshaw, NATO’s deputy supreme commander speaks to reporters at North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit in Newport, Wales.

 

NATO to assemble range of indicators and warnings that suggest when it’s time for some sort of preemptive deterrent deployment. It’s about making clear to potential adversaries “that engaging in offensive operations against NATO is not something they would wish to do”: Bradshaw

 

Bradshaw said not yet clear when spearhead force will be operational. “We would expect a force of this nature to be achieving initial operating capability within a matter of a number of months, maybe a year. But building the capability to its full spectrum of required capabilities would require a certain amount of time”

NATO added:

  • *BRADSHAW SAYS RUSSIAN FORCES STILL SUPPORTING UKRAINE REBELS
  • *BRADSHAW: NO CHANGE ON GROUND WITH RUSSIAN TROOPS IN UKRAINE

The Russian foreign ministry adds,

  • *RUSISA SAYS RESULTS OF WALES NATO SUMMIT AREN'T SURPRISING
  • *RUSSIA SAYS NATO TRYING TO DOMINATE IN EUROPE
  • *RUSSIA SAYS NATO IS SUPPORTING EXTREMISTS IN UKRAINE
  • *RUSSIA SAYS NATO PLANS UNDERMINE UKRAINE PEACE PROGRESS
 

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Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:56 | 5184192 IronShield
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When will these MOFOs return to the dustbin of history!?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5184205 Headbanger
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Doctor Strangelove coming true.

Protect you precious bodily fluids!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:01 | 5184222 Latina Lover
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The USSA Empire strikes back!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:06 | 5184263 Whoa Dammit
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Can we at least find a General to run NATO who has an awareness of which countries are actually in NATO

Hint: Ukraine is not one of them.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:23 | 5184333 gcjohns1971
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No offense,

But everyone who shares a border with Ukraine is having a hissy fit, and invoking their article 5 mutual protection.

They know that if Russia takes a significant part of Ukraine by military force, that they are next.

 

Everyone has something they love and value.  When the guy next to you gets it ripped out of his hands by men with guns, they become convinced that their valuables are next on the list for grabbing.

So to be fair, it is not a case of NATO telling Eastern European countries that they must have bases on their territory.  It is a case of Eastern European countries begging for protection, and offering bases.

And it is not hard to understand why.

All of them asked to join NATO. All of them had to overcome objections to their joining.  They had to work to get in.

All of them are also former Warsaw Pact countries. All of them got into the warsaw pact by first being invaded.

The difference is choice.  And it is the biggest difference in the world.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5184374 NoDecaf
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But the overthrow of a legitimate govt in that same country doesn't fit the description of "something you love being ripped away by men with guns"?

You see, you have to go a little farther upstream to get to the source of the friction...go ahead give it a try, as long as you can objectively follow that bloody money trail back to it's source you will see who is ultimately to blame.

here is one link for your convenience,

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1409860920.php

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:23 | 5184677 Anusocracy
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"All of them got into the warsaw pact by first being invaded."

So, compared to Russia, how many invaded or overthrown countries does the US have under its belt?

Ingroup-outgroup morality has been the cause of massacres for millions of years. Try to overcome it.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:55 | 5185176 Bangalore Equit...
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Hey listen. No one has to overcome anything. How about the great USSA and UK keep their coke filled noses out of this one. You USA people are ninnies in an annoying way. You or UK don't have a dog in this fight.

The great Mr. Putin will annihilate you if you intervene. Stay away. Would you not prefer to spend some additional time admiring your great pop stars like jaysee his whore wife beeonsay and their precious little baby "blue virus"?

Don't get all sore now..... But stop with the fucking world police shit for once.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:39 | 5184406 CCanuck
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gcjohns1971,

"So to be fair, it is not a case of NATO telling Eastern European countries that they must have bases on their territory.  It is a case of Eastern European countries begging for protection, and offering bases.

And it is not hard to understand why."

Did the people of Crimea just want the protection of the Russian Federation? Or was that protection forced upon them?

Just askn'

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:18 | 5184654 stilletto
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Well Crimea voted to rejoin Russia after the Junta in Kiev who deposed the Govt passed laws persecuting ethnic minorities. I bet the Crimeans are glad of their choice as it has spared them the bombing by Kiev that the East is receiving. The Eastern freedom fighters mistake was to not ask to rejoin Russia as that would have spared the 1000's of deaths meted out by Kiev. Given that Kiev has behaved every bit as savagely as Assad in Syria, why is the West that supports Syrian rebels fight for human rights not supporting Ukrainian rebels bid for human rights?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:48 | 5184848 Utah_Get_Me_2
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 why is the West that supports Syrian rebels fight for human rights not supporting Ukrainian rebels bid for human rights

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! The Syrian 'rebels' (ISIS, al-Nusra, al-Qaeda) are fighting for human rights?! That's a good one stilletto!

You are aware this has nothing to do with human rights. It has everything to do with control over natural resources and pipelines. In both instances, Russian interests are being attacked by the West. This is all about pipelines into Europe and who controls them.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 15:53 | 5186134 perchprism
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Yes.  Bo Biden is on the Board of Directors.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 16:43 | 5186376 stilletto
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I guess my sarcasm was a bit subtle.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 14:08 | 5185608 Volkodav
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You are wrong about Assad. Syrians support the Assad government.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:13 | 5184999 rejected
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[And it's not hard to understand why]

Sometimes things aren't as they seem. So far I have seen governments requesting NATO but something tells me the people had about as much say as americans had concerning the sand  wars their government started.

Crimea actually voted for Russian acceptance. I haven't seen any huge demostrations of opposition but Russophobes will just tell you it's the Commies preventing them. Of course they overlook little details like those poor Occupy women being maced by New Yorks finest in the land of the exceptional. The hypocrisy of fascists in Washington and many of it's subjects is for sure exceptional... 

 

 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:31 | 5185419 Overflow-admin
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Oh that's right I recall now, RUSSIANS ARE COMING THEY'LL EAT YOUR BABIES!!!

 

Stop spraying around your herd mentality and grow up! Not everyone in and around Ukraine is pissed about Russia. To the contrary! Google Poroshenko + wikileaks. Hint: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06KIEV1706_a.html

 

You're an inside jab.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:30 | 5184358 general ambivalent
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Unless you're adamently anti-NATO you're in NATO; but then again there's ISIS, so no NATO laws are set in stone.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:50 | 5184475 HardlyZero
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Judo.

 

It has to be included here, by shifting stance and weight large changes occur.

A new philosophy along with Chess and Kabuki.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:27 | 5184700 Anusocracy
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NATO is a giant soup kitchen for millions of those otherwise unemployable.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:07 | 5184266 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Uh oh, Bradshaw let some truth leak out:

*BRADSHAW: NO CHANGE ON GROUND WITH RUSSIAN TROOPS IN UKRAINE

Yep, no change, because they are still in Russia.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:52 | 5184498 the phantom
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I think NATO has completely ripped off North Korea in the bluster category, when the bottom line is they will do absolutely nothing.

Big hat, no cattle.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:10 | 5184273 Oh regional Indian
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What lofty titles these cowards give themselves...Deputy Supreme commander....my ass!

Gurdjieff obviously had it right....  “Solioonensius Rising”

http://spiritofmaat.com/magazine/sep-oct-2012/the-solioonensius/

It's written....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:12 | 5184286 TheFourthStooge-ing
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General Bradshaw, Imperial Turdsickle (second string)

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5184417 tradingdaze
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One wonders if there is an Assistant Deputy Supreme Commander.

Does the Assistant have a Secretary?

and on and on.....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:29 | 5184716 WillyGroper
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Really enjoyed that ORI.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:13 | 5184284 NoLongerABagHolder
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Why don't all you American fucksticks who love Russia move your assed over there? ZeroHedge is obviously wanting to butthammer Putin....... so leave!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:15 | 5184300 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The US world order is one of divisions and only knows one congregation means: lies, propaganda and fantasy.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:18 | 5184313 NoLongerABagHolder
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And Russia is the epicenter of truth? Retard

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:34 | 5184367 Anusocracy
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Well, for one thing, I know that the US is run by pathological serial liars and has been since it started on its quest for world empire a hundred years or so ago. If Russia's leaders are the same, that's the problem of the Russians.

The other thing is that Ukraine is none of our business.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:36 | 5184381 Schwetty Shorts
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Agreed. It's one thing to distrust your government, it's another thing to overcompensate and cozy to the opposite oligarch tyrant. Free thinking isn't about choosing sides, it's about searching for truth in the fucked up mess created by TPTB.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:00 | 5184549 SoilMyselfRotten
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NoLongerABagHolder, look in the mirror. What you see is what the next Brownshirts will look like. Accuse those who question authority as being unpatriotic Americans. You will do the bidding of the next tyrannical leader(or this one) in the USA.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 22:11 | 5187365 conscious being
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NLABH doing ... obviously is doing. The present tense.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:19 | 5184664 TheReplacement
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In a black and white sense, no.

In a comparative sense, yes.

We get more truth from the east than the west.  How can anyone choose to side with the people who lie to them the most?  Hell, if Russia is our advesary and they are still more truthful then what does that make our leaders who lie to us more? 

Think about the implications.  They lie to you (something that is done to enemies).  They spy on you (something that is done to enemies).  They militarize the police against you (something that is done to enemies). 

In the end, you are the enemy.  The sooner you realize and accept this fact the sooner you will not get upset about Putin or Russia.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:41 | 5185139 Anusocracy
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Excellent observation.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:31 | 5184729 Freddie
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McCain

1. Doing photo ops with ISIS right around Benghazi

2. McCain selling Americans out on the border with amnesty with Obama.

3. McCain schemeing with Soros in Davos and Nudelman in Kiev on the Ukraine.

So yes - American politicians and the military are liars who sell out the American people on anything for anything and ALL the time.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:22 | 5184323 rwe2late
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NoLongerABagHolder

Your sexual prediliction is obviously repressing your ability to reason,

or is it the other way around?

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:30 | 5184340 NoLongerABagHolder
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Keep holding that zerohedge bag dude. Eventually gold will stop dropping for you, your Tsy short will eventually stop losing, and you S&P short for the last few years will finally work. Send me a pick from the Kremlin truth machine

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5184403 Anusocracy
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Why are you concerned abut Russia's truthfulness when, without a doubt, the US is the obvious liar and aggressor?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 22:15 | 5187376 conscious being
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He's not rewarded for damaging the mob.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:30 | 5185414 NoDecaf
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How ironic is it that you chose "NoLongerABagHolder" as a user name, because that's exactly what you'll be when the markets crash....

Hey fuck it, somebody's gotta hold FB @ $100 right? It may as well be you...

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:24 | 5184336 Payne
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It is a crazy world where Freedom loving people who do not agree with Govenment policy are term Russia lovers in a method to discredit there point of view.  I think the term is Facist.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:28 | 5184348 NoLongerABagHolder
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You are blinded that you are guilty of your own accusations. Do you also not see that here on ZH everything Putin says and does is ok? You are brainwashef by ZH thinking you know the "real" truth. Typical conspiratist..

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:35 | 5184373 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Welcome to fantasy world. Try your luck with Disney or something, their writers suck and you definitively have the talent for fantasy.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:10 | 5184609 Anusocracy
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@NoLongerABagHolder,

Perhaps you are projecting the mindset you have towards authority onto others here at ZH.

My own position is this: I am completely against the actions of the US gov, it is the current biggest known evil. If the US gov shrank in size to nothing and was replaced by the Russian gov on the world stage, I would then be completely against the Russian gov.

Apparently you embrace government, I look at it as a destructive aspect of the animal world that man desperately needs to evolve beyond.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5184389 Bay of Pigs
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Guys like you are downright comical. You think ZHers "love" Putin and are "brainwashed"? Moar "conspriracy theory" you say?

Must be Full Retard Friday.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:58 | 5184548 dog breath
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NoLongerABagHolder, you can't reason with zealots.  They think Putins' shit doesn't stink.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 22:19 | 5187386 conscious being
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Thank you for making such cogent arguments that your lack of anything worthwhile to say  on the subject becomes obvious.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:26 | 5184683 Moustache Rides
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Oh believe me, if and when Putin fucks up, ZH'rs will be on him like white on rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm.  So far all I've seen from Putin is sheer win.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:29 | 5184354 Anarchy 99
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+1000

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:39 | 5184405 ramacers
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 tsk, tsk.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:50 | 5184480 oudinot
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Why don't you Fuck off you ignorant prick!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:40 | 5184735 Gadfly
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Your cheap, crude dominant/submissive sexual images masquerading as argument are boring and tiresome.  They suggest you are a Zionist, or a member of the tribe, or some other type of troll with an agenda sent to do their bidding, since you aren't making any coherent or cogent arguments, but simply hurling cheap sexual invective.

This site is populated by free thinkers and independents who value truth and a basic fairness above all.  Your pathetic attempts to persuade us that we should not be so free thinking and independent minded, nor should we seek the truth or justice, are time misspent.  You and your ilk only strengthen our resolve.  If you want to join the ranks of free men, start thinking like one: think for yourself, overcome your paranoia and fear-based tribal identity, seek truth and justice, and rejoin the human race.  It's very inspiring and liberating.  Try it.  You might like it.  Be a man for Christ's sake!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 22:29 | 5187404 conscious being
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Gadfly "cogent" wrote it, then scrolled down and saw yours. The anti-Putin Choir sounds pretty shrill and whiney these days as desperation climbs in JoeBidenstan.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:46 | 5184828 Joe Tierney
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BagHolder - put your money where your mouth is - volunteer to fight Russia in Ukraine. Have the courage of your convictions.

 

Oh - can I have your bank acct and other belongings - you won't be needing them.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:24 | 5185070 rejected
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Sadly It's true! Russia is invading Ukraine. RT shows more proof from NATO.

 

http://rt.com/news/185148-russian-embassy-nato-trolling/

 

USA, USA, USA

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 16:12 | 5186225 dogfish
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That looks like some deadly equipment.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 16:12 | 5186229 dogfish
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That looks like some deadly equipment.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:39 | 5185468 TeaParterade
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I agree, having lived in Russia, and just moved back to the states, i can say ZH should MOVE to MOSCOW, they can have my place! I'll give you free rent! Try posting stories like you do on this website while in Russian territory.

ZH = putin party bottom

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:40 | 5185469 TeaParterade
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I agree, having lived in Russia, and just moved back to the states, i can say ZH should MOVE to MOSCOW, they can have my place! I'll give you free rent! Try posting stories like you do on this website while in Russian territory.

ZH = putin party bottom

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:59 | 5184225 viahj
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How dare Ukraine and Russia talk peace, NATO (West) must have WAR!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:05 | 5184250 Chupacabra-322
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N. orth

A. merican

T. erroist

O. rganization

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:07 | 5184258 BurningFuld
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Putin's mistake here is not realizing what a bunch of psychos he is up against.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:14 | 5184297 Chupacabra-322
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Emails released by The Intercept on Thursday between an American national security reporter and the Central Intelligence Agency’s public affairs staff shows the existence of “a closely collaborative relationship,” the news site reported.

Using Freedom of Information Act requests, The Intercept obtained a trove of emails sent between the CIA’s press office and a handful of acclaimed American journalists, the likes of which have revealed questionable conduct on the part of one reporter in particular.

Ken Silverstein wrote for The Intercept that the emails show that Ken Dilanian — a former Los Angeles Times security reporter who began working for the Associated Press in May — provided drafts of his articles concerning the CIA with the agency ahead of publication, and at times wrote the spy office to present officials with opportunities to be represented in a positive light.

http://rt.com/usa/185160-intercept-dilanian-silverstein-foia/

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:01 | 5184230 VATICANT
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Can't wait for the day they string up Porky Poroshenko in the city square

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:18 | 5184314 ctiger
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If the peace tlaks/truce take hold, he may indeed by pre-emptively be removed from office by either the ultra nationalists or at the "request" of Nuland.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 15:15 | 5185950 Liquid Courage
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Dr. Strangelove ... yeah, scary, ain't it?

And don't forget that though General Jack D. Ripper (with his babbling about "precious bodily fluids") was the genuinely batshit crazy bastard who started the ball rolling, it was General "Buck" Turgidson (George C. Scott with his: "I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed ... but I figure 10, maybe 20 million deaths tops!") who was the most frightening villain in the piece.

That's the deep, dark dilema in this whole MAD spectacle: is it possible that those Nuclear Doctinarians deep down in their sub-terranean lairs could really be crazy enough to be angling for a scenario that would "justify" - in their demented minds, at least - a First Strike? Why else encircle a justifiably paranoid Russia with AMB batteries? Oh yeah, to protect Europe from non-existant Iranian ICBMs ... riiiiight.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5184217 Divided States ...
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which leads to PPT's premptive response to ensure that the S&P500 dont get nuked into oblivion by buying all E-mini's out in the market which is why the markets are gonna go green soon!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:56 | 5184193 RattNRoll
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WWIII is coming, we all know that.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:01 | 5184228 813kml
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I think it will take awhile for it to begin in earnest.  If NATO truly intends to put boots on the ground then Putin needs to beat them to the punch and secure at least East Ukraine and wait out the winter.  Russia might as well become the aggressor since Western propaganda paints them that color anyway.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:14 | 5184290 Kirk2NCC1701
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Come November, there'll be "boots" alright: A swift boot right up NATO's pants, when all energy sales will have to be paid in Rubles, CNY or AU.

And the Geico pig will be going: "Boots & Pants, and Boots & Pants..."

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:30 | 5184717 Moustache Rides
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/glowsticks

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:34 | 5184751 WillyGroper
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That's funny!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:16 | 5184311 Ghordius
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where does your fervent belief in WW3 come from? family? friends? media? church? community? honest question

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:51 | 5184334 intric8
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because its the centennial of WWI, ghordo. the tribe sees another weak spot with Russia, just like before!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:29 | 5184359 SMG
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Here's the Oligarchs plan.   Read it and if it makes sense, take action.

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:05 | 5184578 Ghordius
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interesting website, went through the EU part - which needs an update of several years, btw - but can't say I agree

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:26 | 5185388 stacked
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It made sense in 2010, maybe..

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:50 | 5184485 813kml
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My belief isn't fervent, unfortunately I ran out of chicken entrails to read.  My gut feelings don't come from people on street, most would be hard-pressed to find Ukraine on a map.  I just extrapolate what I read as I assume most here do.

A proxy war produces a stalemate that does the West no good, and Putin will never back down from his stance that Ukraine is none of NATO's business.  Russia will never allow an opening like Ukraine again.  The West must use this opening to force their agenda and time is not on their side.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:14 | 5184633 Ghordius
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interestingly, that's a myth. A Roman Augur did not slaugher the sacred chickens, it just gave them different kinds of cake to eat, and watched them what they would eat first

thank you all for the answers

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:43 | 5184756 Bananamerican
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Roman augurs were part of a collegium of priests who shared the duties and responsibilities of the position. At the foundation of the Republic in 510 BC, --the patricians held sole claim to this office--; by 300 BC, the office was open to plebeian occupation as well. Senior members of the collegium put forth nominations for any vacancies, and members voted on whom to --co-opt.--

Some things never change

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:57 | 5184204 himaroid
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Poor little rainbow warriors. Their war is trying to get away from them. Somebody bitch slap them out of their hissy fit.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:46 | 5184835 Freddie
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LOL!  Rainbow Warriors.  The "army" NATO can field compared to the Russians and NovoRoyiussa is laughable.  Russia reminds me of America in the 1950s or late 1940s. Smart people, capable and no BS. 

America is filled with EMOs, hipsters and hopefully some people who are waking up to the red white and blue lets go die for NATO/Obama and EBT.   

Europeans? The Poles will fight and die but the rest of them?  They are not fighting back against the NWO/EU's invasion of Islamics into Europe.  Europeans need to go attack and destroy the EU before they fight Russia. 

NATO's planes?  F-22 and F-35s?  LOL!  Junk.  Build by greedy defense contractors selling trash designed by Pentagon committees and manufactured with unionized workers.  Trash.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:57 | 5184206 Sudden Debt
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Talking is silver

Silence is gold

 

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP??

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:09 | 5184274 Soul Glow
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Because they leased all of the gold to China.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:57 | 5184209 Winston Churchill
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Got to cover Dear Leaders fuckup,again.

This asshole should resign ,but to get to that rank,you are a politician first,soldier second.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:05 | 5184248 813kml
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I think Dear Leader has almost run his course as a useful idiot, it would be the perfect false flag to have him disposed.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:13 | 5184291 Winston Churchill
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I was thinking the same.As he is impeachment proof,a polonium enema would be fitting, so

they can blame Putin.A twofor.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:10 | 5185296 Freddie
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I watched a documentary on YouTube and it speculated that the polonium hit in London was Bernovsky.  He killed a lot of people.   He was not this happy go lucky zio-oligarch the z-media made him out to be.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 18:29 | 5186723 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Freddie, take a look at this if you haven't already read it. It links Litvinenko's death to British intelligence, the Mossad, the CIA, and the Russian-Israeli mafia.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/31/theresa-may-raises-an-o...

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5184210 BaghdadBob
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America - stoking a world of shit for over 70 years. Time for you Twats to fuck off.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:06 | 5184256 Bossman1967
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it's not the people of this country ass whipe it's the politicians that we the people have no say cause if we did we would tell all yall to get fucked and keep to ourselves we have problems here yes! but to blame our country because of maybe a 1,000 corrupt politicians I think not

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:11 | 5184281 BaghdadBob
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...and who believed the hype and voted for your politicians? Don't make fucking excuses mate. If you felt that strongly about it, and realised how much the rest of the world despises the US (and it's Fox News educated masses) then you'd do something about it. Until then be quiet.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:55 | 5184520 Bossman1967
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bullshit we get a vote of the better of two evils and never I say never would a community organizer from Kenya get my bot ass whipe so I am guessing that your Queenie doing a better job for you. I am doing something I withdrew myself from the corrupt system and am ready for a collapse if it happens. so Baghdad get a clue it's not us Americans we are pissed

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:58 | 5184544 BaghdadBob
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She's not my fucking Queen sunshine. Guess again....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:25 | 5184695 MarsInScorpio
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Bob:

 

The tension is killing us . . . where are you from?

 

Me, I'm from sunny Florida, USA. OK, your turn . . .

-30-

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:36 | 5184768 Bananamerican
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Don't bother guessing Mars...
BagBob IS the queen

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:42 | 5184807 BaghdadBob
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Yep, when intelligent debate fails resort to insult. God Bless 'Murika.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:01 | 5184560 rwe2late
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 not so fast

it is not simply being duped by the "hype"

1) the candidates  offered by the major parties hardly differ in their support of global militarism and TBTF corruption. Obama or McCain is not much of a choice.

2) the major parties and their financial sponsors (who also control the mSM) have a near stranglehold on who gets on the ballot

3) the major party candidates will deceive and lie about their true politics until they obtain office, and will then renege on campaign pledges

4)any political movement to change the situation is harassed and worse by Homeland Security, FBI, NSA, IRS, local police fusion centers, MSM belittling, lack of funds,

and "3" above.

if one wants to "blame" the "voters", at least be cognizant of the extensive obstacles.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:18 | 5184651 BaghdadBob
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Appreciate that RWE, and thanks for the input. Luckily I don't have the burden of having to vote in US elections. But what about Dr. Ron Paul? Are you saying that most Americans are brainwashed, ill educated or stupid enough to ignore what he or his fellow constitutional patriots have to say? Or is it shear laziness? Either way, surely you can understand that the rest of the world doesn't want moral guidance and military/economic pressure (forcefulness) imposed on them by such an ignoramus and monopolar country. The real sad thing is that I've both lived and worked in the US and found everyone I socialised with to be wonderful people. It's just that collectively you seem to be such an arrogant asshole race. Hope and change baby...

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:51 | 5184870 Bay of Pigs
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I've been talking about Ron Paul and the FED for 20 to 30 years Bob. Yes, I've helped enlighten a few along the way, but most do not want to hear the truth. Denial, ignorance, cognitive dissonance, whatever the case may be....they just don't care enough to peel the rotten onion back. The Kool Aid is strong within the US educational system (main form of brainwashing) and people listening to a gov't captured MSM propaganda machine.

Nothing short of a revolution is going to wake the masses up, imo.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 22:48 | 5187457 conscious being
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BoP all true. Just want to emphasise the MSM stranglehold on the collective mind is diabolical. And Dr. Paul was harassed beyond bearable by the corrupt system.

 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:13 | 5185256 rwe2late
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 Do you believe the peoples of other nations have chosen wisely?

e.g., Harper, Cameron, Hollande, Abe

or the leaders in Poland, Lithuania, or Ukraine?

do you need web links showing Europeans recently insipidly fawning all over Obama?

(who now has a very low popular approval rating in the USA).

 

The US people are perhaps no more "exceptional" than others, good or bad,

it is likely instead that with "exceptional" power and wealth,

the flaws, hubris, and shortcomings of citizens and especially leaders are MAGNIFIED

in the consequences of their actions and policies.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:14 | 5185319 forensicator
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Hey dumass American elections are rigged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:08 | 5184267 BaghdadBob
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Down voted - as if what I posted isn't true! Gotta love Amurikens...

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:12 | 5184288 HungryPorkChop
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Really, BaghdadBob is your online name?  Now that's some funny sh*(t.

 

For everyone's amusement here is a link to Baghdad Bob's best quotes:  http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljoke-iraqinfominister.htm

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:29 | 5184355 BaghdadBob
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Yeah, well my original avatar was Jay Carney, but then I tried to upload a picture of Jen Psaki but ZH thought it was too big, so Chemical Ali had to do. Anyway, revel in the irony (if you understand what that means).

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:10 | 5184608 Cpl Hicks
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You, like many other jackasses, mistake irony for humor and intelligence.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:32 | 5184736 BaghdadBob
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Nope. I understand Irony perfectly. For instance - it's Ironic that while the US/NATO persists to berate Russia about the consequences of entanglement into the (US instigated) Ukrainian civil war and how it contravenes Ukrainians sovereignty, the US continues to Drone bomb ME countries and CIA funded ISIS militants. Oh wait, sorry, my mistake, that's actually hypocrisy....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:47 | 5184838 zzzddd1
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BaghdadBob get modern: Get Psaki title! And put her "rack" as avatar!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:57 | 5184899 BaghdadBob
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Yeah ZZZ you're right. She's got a fair pair. I can get over the whole smelly ginger thing if I could jag a crack on those hooters. I'll investigate....

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:22 | 5185063 lakecity55
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Ummm, Jen... I'd do her doggy-style.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5184211 ekm1
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If crude force is used against Putin, then Putin will stop there, but, but, but............not unless Quantitative Easing is fully unwound and a Triple Lehman is allowed to happen.

 

If no Triple Lehman, Putin won't care and he will advance

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:59 | 5184214 Shrapnel
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NATO, kindly fuck off.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:58 | 5184215 USisCorrupt
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Putin let the Nukes FLY, heck feel free to drop one on my house and get me out of this God foresaken World. I know my life after will be much better.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:59 | 5184219 Chupacabra-322
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"Currency wars, trade wars, world wars."

"When all else fails, they take you to war."

-Gerald Celente.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:19 | 5184317 edotabin
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Yes, but they make sure to dress it up into some elaborate play so as to throw off the scent.  Once the formula is figured out, all you have to do is plug in the latest bad actor and it all makes sense.  Bad acting, bad plan, bad people..... they just suck.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 09:59 | 5184223 Dr. Engali
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Shhhhhhh....... Will you guys be quiet? I'm trying to BTFD.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:02 | 5184234 Tenshin Headache
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It's not a reaction force if it's deployed preemptively.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:14 | 5184294 gcjohns1971
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True.

But if it is deployed only to friendly territory, it is not exactly a real pre-emption either.  In that case it is more like strategically putting on a sale for policemen and gunowners when you see guys with baggy pants and baseball bats casing your store. 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:02 | 5184239 ShrNfr
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You bring a knife, I bring a golf club.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:04 | 5184245 Civilizedworm
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so much for all the warm and fuzzy peace talk in mihnsk

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:05 | 5184247 Soul Glow
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When all else fails, go to war.

The logic of controling powers.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:05 | 5184249 russwinter
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Massive Cyberattacks are in Play, with US as most Common Origin

http://winteractionables.com/?p=14360

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:40 | 5184798 WillyGroper
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I saw that last night & was taken aback. Went to the Norse website & couldn't get the interactive to work. 

I wonder what the devil is in St. Louis?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 11:56 | 5184891 Son of Captain Nemo
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I wonder what the devil is in St. Louis?

Actually it's O'Fallen Illinois a.k.a. Scott Air Force Base that would be getting targeted or perhaps it's "targeting" because of it's Ops to DISA/DIA!

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 12:20 | 5185038 lakecity55
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It shifts a lot.

The attacks are back and forth; China vs. US are the two main apparent fighters.

But, perhaps, the attackers are all Israeli, spoofing US/PRC servers!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 13:32 | 5185390 Son of Captain Nemo
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The attacks are back and forth; China vs. US are the two main apparent fighters.

lake

Like everything else the U.S. military does to make it look like it's being attacked from some nefarious outside source the "red" networks of the U.S. government are more secure than anyone could ever imagine.

Whatever is "black" has honeypots hanging off of it for a reason and that is what 99.9% of the time gets hacked by some "foreign service" or entity like ISIS for show.

The only way that the Chinese and Russians could ever touch on the "red side" is if they were able to tap a cable or had someone on the inside for money!...  Come to think of it???...

With the way our government has sold out the U.S. Constitution for money since 9/11 that's a pretty large and ever gorwing community of the disaffected given that ex-NSA admin that just got his ticket punched to stay in Russia for a couple more years!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:07 | 5184255 A82EBA
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Min wage hours per 1 oz Au = 69 in 1979 and 174 in 2014

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:09 | 5184270 3rd Pig
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Who would stand to gain if a dirty bomb went off in the region? I am referring to this headline in the press.

Kazakhstan authorities on high alert after radioactive container goes missing Military involved in efforts to find caesium-137, which may have fallen off a vehicle in Mangistau

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/kazakhstan-caesium-137-radioactive-container-missing-astana-nuclear-isotope

If it went off in Donetsk for example, who would rush to the aide of irradiated and dyeing victims? If it had been given the additional explosive force of a suitcase nuke for another example and depending on which way the wind was blowing, this may require a military intervention from either side, would it not?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:12 | 5184285 A82EBA
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bi-lateral false flag

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:39 | 5184408 10mm
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Fallen off a vehicle.  ROFL

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:13 | 5184289 GrandPaFred
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ShrNfr:

 

I wonder if Putin has finished work on that nuclear golf ball?

 

Hey Obama - your up....

quiet folks, the mighty golfer is about to demonstrate his stuff.

 

He swings - BOOM!

 

F'ck - where did the 13th fairway go...?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:15 | 5184302 Bill of Rights
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Senator and CIA Insider Accuse Federal Reserve of Covering Up Secret Bankruptcy

 

 Is the Federal Reserve covering up a dangerous crisis that threatens to bring down, not just the United States, but the entire global economy?

According to two men, one a high-ranking member of the U.S. Intelligence Community, and the other, a 2016 Presidential hopeful, the answer is yes.

They both believe the world's most powerful central bank is secretly bankrupt and Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen will do whatever it takes to keep the public in the dark about this startling situation.

If they're correct, every American should fear the unavoidable endgame their evidence is predicting.

Recently, in an emotional speech from the Senate floor, Senator Rand Paul declared that the Federal Reserve is now "insolvent."

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 17:21 | 5186512 mc225
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it's amazing how 'these people' can own the bank, yet manage to go broke.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 00:17 | 5187605 conscious being
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They gave it away. Cash for trash for the chosen. Look into AIG.

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:18 | 5184304 shovelhead
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NATO MARCHING SONG

We're men,
We're men in tights.
We roam around in Europe looking for fights.
We're men,
We're men in tights.
We rob from the poor and give to the rich,
That's right!
We may look like sissies,
But watch what you say or else we'll put out your lights!
We're men,
We're men in tights.
Always on guard, destroying the peoples' rights.

Come to think of it, maybe Mel Brookes is writing the script for this show too.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:15 | 5184307 Old Man River
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GEN. BRADSHAW, NATO’S DEPUTY SUPREME COMMANDER...

 

I cannot seem to giggle past that title. The people really fancy themselves, don't they?

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:24 | 5184338 shovelhead
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They like to follow Roman traditions

Gaius Maximus Penultimo Erectus.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:26 | 5184344 ctiger
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I'm sure there is an Assistant Deputy Supreme Commander out there somewhere...

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:18 | 5184309 luckystars
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Come winter Crimeans will be sitting on decks sipping vodka under outdoor heat lamps.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:22 | 5184324 q99x2
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Are Loyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon still walking? Then Russia, China, the EU and US are working with them against their nations populations. Without bankers there would be no war.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:27 | 5184347 intric8
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"There's no war here, unless you've brought it with you" - Tion Medon, Star Wars, episode 3, Revenge Of The Sith

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:56 | 5184502 HardlyZero
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Judo, Kabuki, Chess...Poker, Risk, and Go.

They all are in-play concurrently.

They just have to figure which movement is invoked next.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:31 | 5184363 socalbeach
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OT. I guess Russia doesn't have "Environmental Impact Reports".  Around here the project would take years before work could start to make sure no rodents, insects, or bacteria are threatened.

Work on the construction of the Kerch bridge began

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 01:01 | 5187659 talisman
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C'mon--just think what progress
we would have made if the Founding
Fathers had incorporated mandatory
EIRs into the US Constitution.

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5184384 Son of Captain Nemo
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It's like attempting to understand the rantings of an insane schizophrenic lunatic with multiple personality disorder that has mood swings from happy to angry measured in milliseconds...

And the U.S. U.K. and Israel are the patient(s) that refuse to take their "meds" and unfortunately are not confined to a padded cell under lock and key!

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5184410 falak pema
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All this "preemptive" frothing at the mouth just shows these MIC shills, pumped on nuke steroids, have no real clout, just blubbering bluster like a missile launch which goes  nowhere, just sits there steaming in its own juice.

Their nukes are rusty and the US, the Eu and Russia have no money to pump into MIC for their OWN use; for export, ALWAYS! 

There are bigger things at stake and that is that the CAPITALIST CAKE is now totally debased in the age of NIRP; aka "our money your problem" has led the Pax Americana unipolar cabal into a dead end : a system which does NOT admit that RISK and RETURN on investment mean anything.

In the age of NO MORAL HAZARD in PAPER ASSETS and PAPER/electronic  monetary base, this means Yellen's head like that of Draghi's are buried in sand like the proverbial ostrich.

Thank you Maggy and Ronnie for having created the age when capitalism, now totally financialized, has debased its own mantra; like the Popes of yester-year selling Indulgences to the rich to go to heaven; moar derivatives of no substance.

Well HEAVEN CAN'T WAIT, or can it? 

Looks like the Islamic degenerates feel it can't, as they behead all and sundry; while Mario and Janet kick the can from here to eternity! 

Play on Adenoid and Benzino, you are taking us to never never land! 

 

Fri, 09/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5184419 Kina
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Can only assume that Z/NATO and USA have enough owned leaders in Europe to still search for a Russia war. Else Europe would have told the US to fuck off long ago, and stop destroying Europe's economy.

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